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Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 14:26:02 +1000 (EST)
From: o.evans@latrobe.edu.au (Owen Evans)
Subject: Transmission brake
Hi oz-lros,
For a while (until I learnt that there was a separate au-lro list) I
subscribed to the general LRO list. In amongst the drivel about waving,
how to open a beer can and my RR is better than their Jeep Cherrokee, I
picked up on a couple of discussions that set me to thinking - I'd like
advice.
The two threads that got me thinking were firstly about the transmission
parking brake, and secondly, about broken rear axle shafts. These two came
together in my mind as I was towing a trailer with about a tonne and a half
of firewood up a steep stetch of road mear my place. Bitumen road, 2-wheel
drive, first gear. And it ocurred to me, what happens now if I were to
break a rear axle here and now. The feeling passed, but not the curiosity
-- surely a transmission brake is a real problem if you lose traction on
one rear wheel. Comments?
Owen Evans
SIIA 88 "Agatha"
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Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 13:08:40 +0800 (WST)
From: TONY YATES <tonyy@bom.gov.au>
Subject: Re: Transmission brake
On Tue, 21 May 1996, Owen Evans wrote:
> -- surely a transmission brake is a real problem if you lose traction on
> one rear wheel. Comments?
Agreed. Much as I like the transmission brake it can be a problem in
certain circumstances.
Let's assume the worst - you don't have a passenger and you have FWH,
unlocked of course.
The accepted practise in this case is to apply the footbrake and sit
there until you die, or until you can attract the attention of a
passer-by. Unless you reckon you can leap out and grab a hunk of that
firewood to jam under a rear wheel before the whole lot starts moving.
Actually in this high tech age you will of course have a mobile phone
with which to call your local road rescue organisation....
This would be a good application for a device I invented in my head while
driving through crocodile infested creeks. Basically one of those
grappling hook launchers that ships use, attached to the front bumper,
with the grappling hook attached to your winch cable, enabling you to
winch yourself out of trouble without leaving the drivers seat....
The simplest way out is to always carry a passenger, useful for all
situations, from the broken half shaft to the crocodile infested creek...
Cheers.
Tony Yates.
Port Hedland
Western Australia.
(soon to be back in Perth)
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Subject: Re: Transmission brake
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 09:32:19 -0400
From: William Caloccia <caloccia@OpenMarket.com>
> And it ocurred to me, what happens now if I were to
> break a rear axle here and now. The feeling passed, but not the curiosity
> -- surely a transmission brake is a real problem if you lose traction on
> one rear wheel. Comments?
yep, I'll vouch for that putting you in a bad situation....
however, to my knowlegde simply towing doesn't break axles, but
dumping the clutch while towing that load of firewood up the hill
might well do that. then you roll back down the hill, (remember to do it
straight, 'cause otherwise you'll dump the trailer when it jacks
and then put it in 4wd low and drive home in that FWD rover....
(actually, my axle didn't snap, the hole for one of the pins
holding the spider gears in place was oval, and the pin snapped, the spiders
snapped, and well, you get the idea.)
Cheers,
--bill caloccia@OpenMarket.com
http://www.OpenMarket.com/personal/caloccia/
http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/~majordom/lr/
R 1 3 2wd H D
+--|--| o | L 3 Land Rovers First
2 4 4wd L | 2 because
'63 SIIa RHD 88" H 1 Land Rovers Last
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Subject: Re: Transmission brake
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 09:35:26 -0400
From: William Caloccia <caloccia@OpenMarket.com>
Tony Yates writes:
> The simplest way out is to always carry a passenger, useful for all
> situations, from the broken half shaft to the crocodile infested creek...
Good advice, (just remember who siad it in case he offers you a ride :-)
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Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 20:43:50 +0200
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: Transmission brake
>Hi oz-lros,
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>-- surely a transmission brake is a real problem if you lose traction on
>one rear wheel. Comments?
In principle, yes. What I would do (if there was nobody else around) is
1 firmly keep my foot on the brake until step 7,
2 engage fwd high (yellow knob) and engage transmission brake (it will make
sense),
3 slip off the driver's seat onto the center seat (not required for RHD),
4 open the tool compartment under the driver's seat (passenger seat in RHD),
5 take out the crossbrace,
6 wedge the crossbrace between seat box and brake pedal,
7 slooowly take my foot off the brake,
8 if the wedged brake does not hold car and trailer, wedge it down better
and repeat step 7,
9 if brake holds car and trailer, gingerly crawl out of cab, definitely not
slam the door and lock FW hubs,
10 take a deep breath and look for a drink.
The transmission brake should now hold the car through the transfer box and
the front wheels. The reason I would not use fwd low is because that would
put a lot of extra strain on the front half shafts, and you might snap one
of those, too, when you try to drive away.
Hope it never happens to any of us. Good rovering
Peter Hirsch
SI 107in S/W
Vienna, Austria (officially 1,000 years old this November 1)
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From: Franz.Parzefall@lrz.tu-muenchen.de
Subject: source for Polybushes
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 13:06:45 +0200 (METDST)
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