msg	Sender	lines	Subject
1	dnalder@deloitte.co.nz	29	110 For Sale
2	kbossard@mgdestmx01.erin	14	101 for sale
3	Pyramid [pyramid@netlink	21	Purchase of 1990 Defender 90 (NZ)/Diesel Engine Life
4	haystack@netspace.net.au	30	New tyres on 110 !
5	Daryl Webb [dwebb@waite.	34	Re: New tyres on 110 !
6	Tony Yates [a.yates@bom.	42	Tyres on a 110
7	haystack@netspace.net.au	31	Tyre pressure on a 110
8	Peter Stupans [pstupans@	27	Disco tyres
9	"Kurt C. Reinhardt" [sm0	41	tyre pressure on 110
10	m.belik@uws.edu.au (Miro	27	Re: Tyre pressure on a 110
11	Graeme Perkes [gperkes@n	21	RE: Tyres on a 110
12	Pyramid [pyramid@netlink	34	109 For Sale (NZ)
13	"Ian.J.Lock" [ilock@m150	20	Another Tyre Query
14	"Beckett, Ron" [rbeckett	35	RE: Another Tyre Query
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From: dnalder@deloitte.co.nz
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 10:57:52 NZT
Subject: 110 For Sale

     
     Hi all,
     
     Regrettably I have to sell my LR due to a transfer to Budapest, 
     Hungary.  So for those in NZ who may be interested (its currently in 
     Wellington):
     
     For Sale
     
     1985 110 V8 LT95, extractors, custom exhaust, 3 dr hardtop, Brand new 
     RR power steering, 180k, Yellow, Dunlop Adventurers (70%), Stereo, 
     very sound (its been my hobby for the last 4 years).  $19k
     
     It breaks my heart to sell her, but unfortunately its not allowed as 
     carry-on luggage!
     
     Cheers
     
     David Nalder
     Ph (04) 4721677 (work)
        (04) 3864229 (home)
        (025) 485179 (cell)
     

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From: kbossard@mgdestmx01.erin.gov.au
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 96 09:31:18 EST
Subject: 101 for sale

For those who may be interested, a search of Trading Post On-line revealed the
following:  Land Rover FC 101 1 tonne 1977 3.5 litre V8, winch and diff locks,
very good condition, 75000kms, VFG-421, $15000 PORT LINCOLN Ph 086-84 5067. Wish
I had some spare cash but $15K would go a long way to paying off the morgage.

Karl Bossard
President 
Land Rover Club of the ACT 

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From: Pyramid <pyramid@netlink.co.nz>
Subject: Purchase of 1990 Defender 90 (NZ)/Diesel Engine Life
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 21:22:17 +-1300

I am looking at a 1990 Defender 90 currently.  The vehicle has been AA =
checked and seems OK.  However I would be interested in any opinions on =
the price.  They are asking $30k.  This seems comparable with the cost =
of importing a similar aged vehicle from the UK, plus duty etc. but is =
it a fair price?  What I know is that the vehicle was imported from the =
UK, it's a 1991 model, has 72000km on the clock, was owned by a LR =
enthusiast in Nelson and then a pharmacist in CHCH.  Any comments would =
be appreciated.
Also I known that diesel engines are supposed to have a longer life than =
petrol, but how much.  Another 1990 110 I have looked at had 130000km on =
the clock, how many more km's should it be good for?

Thanks
Richard Bloor
1982 SIII "Clyde"

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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 21:55:41 +1100
From: haystack@netspace.net.au (Doug McPherson)
Subject: New tyres on 110 !

Hi all.

I've got my new tyres today.

BFG Mud Terrains 235/85-16 on 5.5" rims.

Much LESS noisy at 100km/h (at least for the 2km I drove at that speed!) than
the unbalanced, mismatched Kumho and Cooper M&S 31(?)x10.5x15's that were on it!

New problem.

It now handles more weirdly. They did a wheel alignment. I have a bent
track control rod (someone mentioned this the other day, that 110's with
wide wheels often have bent track rods. Is this deliberate or an effect of
having wide wheels ?). So now its very touchy at the wheel. I'll have to
get a new track rod and get it aligned again. I may wait till I replace the
bushes.

The rims I had are apparently rather 'bent', they needed a lot'o'lead to
balance. So I'm now definitely after some Disco or Rangie wheels or other
LR 16x6 - 16x7 wheels. If anyone has any for sale I'm interested !

I still have for sale five 7JJx15 wheels + tyres. Tyres are shot.

Doug.

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From: Daryl Webb <dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au>
Subject: Re: New tyres on 110 !
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 23:39:54 +1030 (CDT)

According to Doug McPherson:
> It now handles more weirdly. They did a wheel alignment. I have a bent
> track control rod (someone mentioned this the other day, that 110's with
> wide wheels often have bent track rods. Is this deliberate or an effect of
> having wide wheels ?). So now its very touchy at the wheel. I'll have to

Any wheel aligner worth their wage should still be able to adjust toe even
with a bent track rod.  If you get lucky the bend faces up and keeps it
out of the way for the next rock/stump Ok so its not ideal.  by touchy do
you mean..  ah seems to turn a little sharper and more quickly than you'd
expect and has a tendancy to "dive" off of small bumps.? 

If so i'd guess that they have set it up with toe-in, not the correct toe 
out..  hopefully they will have given you a spec sheet, should be able to 
tell from that.  I usually have to read the riot act before the 
"technicians" will put toe-out on my stage 1 actually I've given up, last 
time I let them set it up, then used that as a reference and backed the 
track rod off X turns to give me ~1-1.5mm toe-out... now I need to find 
the conversion again...

Of course if you have buckled rims and the "technician" was too lazy to 
correct for run out then you could have real problems, the toe could be 
out to buggery.....

cheers
-- 

  Daryl Webb   (dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au)

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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:03:53 +1100
From: Tony Yates <a.yates@bom.gov.au>
Subject: Tyres on a 110

  
Just had to put my oar in here, haven't really been paying much attention for a
while but it's nice to see a burst of activity on the list!

A bit late seeing as how Doug has already bought his tyres (wish I could afford
BFGs 8-(  ). My 110 has Kumhos (235/85) which have been very good. 70000km and
still going strong. They tended to get a bit chopped up on gravel roads in the
Pilbara, but not many tyres survive well there.

I am now temporarily estranged from my 110, having been lucky enough to be
given the
chance at 6 months in Antarctica. Unfortunately the vehicles on the base
here are
(yuk) Tojos, but I believe that Landrovers have been here so I might do a bit of
research on that subject.  Would have been nice to bring mine but with a 50kg
baggage allowance it was a tad difficult.

There are other interesting vehicles here, the main all terrain vehicles are
Haggelunds, which are Mercedes powered sheds on rubber tracks.  They look pretty
good bristling with antennae, spotlights and radars - yup radars! I have now
decided
to fit one of those to my Landrover! #8-)

If anyone is interested I have some gifs I can email.

Cheers. Tony Yates.

*********************************************************************

Tony Yates
Senior Forecaster
Davis Base
Australian Antarctic Territory

a.yates@bom.gov.au

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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 18:49:16 +1100
From: haystack@netspace.net.au (Doug McPherson)
Subject: Tyre pressure on a 110

Next series of questions from the 110 newbie........

1. What sort of tyre pressures do you guys run ?
  LR (aust) recommend 45/45 psi lightly loaded at 100-120kmh
  LR (UK) say 25/30 psi 'unladen', no speed range given

  both from the handbooks (UK and Oz obviously)

  45 seems high, 25 seems low. Any ideas ?

  Remember they're BFG MT's 235/85-16's

2. With the steering alignment comment yesterday, I had the guy who was
tuning it today check the alignment. He thought it was OK (He knows LR's,
so I trust him).

  I then checked the tyre pressures, and they were over 50 psi. That may
explain    the 'floating' feeling yesterday.The steering is certainly
better at 35 psi.

3. With a new expensive tyre on the back door, and the truck parked in the
street, I want to lock the spare somehow. Any good solutions ?

TIA,

Doug.

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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 22:45:50 +1100 (EST)
From: Peter Stupans <pstupans@ozemail.com.au>
Subject: Disco tyres

While the subject of 110 tyres is hot on the list I need to start thinking
about a set for my Disco in 225/75R16. I intend keeping my street Michelins
on alloys and shoeing my steel wheels with something more aggressive for a
combination of snow trips, sandy deserts and beaches, and a smattering of mud. 
Current thinking is towards BFG All Terrains as I couldn't bear the thought
of noisy Mud Terrains. However, the only time my forward progress has been
impeded has been by mud, so my brain is asking me will the BFG ATs be good
enough or should I go for the noisy MTs. Can anydoby help me with my
deliberations?

How about a suggestion somewhere in between the two like Dunlop Adventurer?

PS

P Stupans
PO Box 580
Glebe 2037
Australia

pstupans@ozemail.com.au
tel:	+61 (0)2 9887 2359
fax:	+61 (0)2 9417 5066

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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 17:10:17 +0100
From: "Kurt C. Reinhardt" <sm095re@unidui.uni-duisburg.de>
Subject: tyre pressure on 110

My BFG manual stats for the 235/85 MT a table which shows the max load in kg
in dependance to the max appliable load:
off road:
pr/bar          load/kg
1,2             310
1,4             360
1,6             410
1,8             460
on road:
2,0             510
2,2             560
2,5             640
2,8             715
3,0             765
3,2             815
3,5             890
3,8             970
4,0             1020
4,2             1070
4,5             1150
4,8             1225
5,0             1275
5,2             1325
5,5             1400
BFG recommends no pressure under 2.0 bar for on road use..!
hope this helps
ciao kurt
Kurt.Reinhardt@unidui.uni-duisburg.de
Gerhard Mercartor University Duisburg
FB 1/10 Philosophie/Physik
Voice 0049 201 297876
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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 15:47:28 +1000
From: m.belik@uws.edu.au (Miroslav Belik)
Subject: Re: Tyre pressure on a 110

>1. What sort of tyre pressures do you guys run ?
>  LR (aust) recommend 45/45 psi lightly loaded at 100-120kmh
>  LR (UK) say 25/30 psi 'unladen', no speed range given

I run mine on 45, they were about 35 when I bought the car and steering was
considerably improved after increasing the pressure.

>3. With a new expensive tyre on the back door, and the truck parked in the
>street, I want to lock the spare somehow. Any good solutions ?

I use a chain and padlock.

Cheers.
Mirek
SIII Stage1 1982 3.9D
Miroslav Belik                    Email: M.Belik@UWS.EDU.AU        
UWS, Macarthur               Phone: 018-028-708 or 61 2 823 9445
P.O. Box 555                     FAX:   61 46 203025              
Campbelltown, 2560                                                             
NSW      
Australia.
         

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From: Graeme Perkes <gperkes@netspace.net.au>
Subject: RE: Tyres on a 110
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 19:08:51 +-1100

4x4 Australia (Nov '96, p 123) point out that a mid-range Firestone =
Firehawk with an agressive/low-noise tread mix is now available.
There was no word about price and I think the Firestone 225/75R16 RMT =
would suit a 110, although I'll wait for reports from the guinea pigs.

When I owned a Vitara SWB, I shod it with Firestone Firehawks
rather than the expensive Bridgestones normally used. They were
more aggressive than the Bridgestones and showed very little sign
of wear after 40000km - I was impressed - I would estimate 80000km
life from these although a Vitara is HALF the weight of a Defender.
An interesting snippet - I think these were made in NZ.

Cheers,

Graeme Perkes (gperkes@netspace.net.au)

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From: Pyramid <pyramid@netlink.co.nz>
Subject: 109 For Sale (NZ)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 21:26:40 +-1300

Thank you to those of you who replied to my mail re 90 2nd hand prices =
and diesel lifespan.

Well I have made the decision and now am the owner of a 90 which is now =
on it's way to me (I hope Tranzrail take care of it!)

This leaves me with a surplus of Land Rovers (and a Toyota Corolla as =
well, but I'm sure that is of no real interest).  I therefore have for =
sale the following:
1982 Land Rover 109
Rebuilt in 1990 with:
a Rover 3ltr petrol engine, now with around 30,000 km on it since it was =
rebuilt
electronic fuel pump
oil cooler
heavy duty clutch
Salisbury diffs
repainted
In the last 3 month it has had:
new engine electrics, leads, points etc.
new brake system components, wheel cylinders, master etc.
defender wing mirrors fitted

Now all this can be yours for $11,000.

I can also be contacted on 021-650-784 or 04-479-1813 (Wellington).

Richard Bloor

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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 21:37:13 +1100
From: "Ian.J.Lock" <ilock@m150.aone.net.au>
Subject: Another Tyre Query

G'day,
            My fairly recently acquired 2a LWB (109?) is shod with recapped
7.50x16 tyres. I can't recall at present what brand they are, but that's not
relevant as they were pretty close to worn out & unroadworthy when I bought
the vehicle. Now they are totally stuffed. So I can't tell whether they were
any good or not. 
Does anyone have any recommendations for tyres that wont cost me an arm & a
leg. The "truck" gets about 50/50 use on dirt road/bitumen, & is also used
for getting around the grass covered hilltops (which can become very muddy
over winter) where I run a few cattle. I believe a "bar" tread pattern is a
pretty aggressive pattern & may be suitable for around the farm, but how
would they wear on the road?
Regards
Ian
(from the Strzlecki Ranges,Vic).

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: RE: Another Tyre Query
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 96 07:48:00 EST

Ian,
I believe the Olympic Steel Treks 7.50R16 (Aussie made tyre for the rest of 
the readers) are good.  My son has these on his Land Cruiser.  He seems to 
have no trouble churning through bogholes with these.  They aren't bad on 
rock as well.  I am not sure what they'd be like on slippery grass hills.
Any other comments from Aust. LROs?

Ron
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From: Ian.J.Lock
Subject: Another Tyre Query
Date: Friday, 1 November 1996 8:37PM

G'day,
            My fairly recently acquired 2a LWB (109?) is shod with recapped
7.50x16 tyres. I can't recall at present what brand they are, but that's not
relevant as they were pretty close to worn out & unroadworthy when I bought
the vehicle. Now they are totally stuffed. So I can't tell whether they were
any good or not.
Does anyone have any recommendations for tyres that wont cost me an arm & a
leg. The "truck" gets about 50/50 use on dirt road/bitumen, & is also used
for getting around the grass covered hilltops (which can become very muddy
over winter) where I run a few cattle. I believe a "bar" tread pattern is a
pretty aggressive pattern & may be suitable for around the farm, but how
would they wear on the road?
Regards
Ian
(from the Strzlecki Ranges,Vic).

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