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1 Hegarty Lindsay [Lindsay47Child Seat Restraint Points in early RR's
2 reed3@c031.aone.net.au (22Range Rover diesel conversion
3 reed3@c031.aone.net.au (17Series III gearbox wanted
4 David L Dean [deand@kea.24FS: 1984 109 HT in Christchurch, NZ
5 "Beckett, Ron" [rbeckett43RE: Range Rover diesel conversion
6 bigbear@hutch.com.au 36[Fwd: Range Rover diesel conversion]
7 Doug McPherson [haystack38Steering 'looseness'
8 reed3@c031.aone.net.au (17Series 3 gearbox wanted
9 reed3@c031.aone.net.au (22Range Rover V8 diesel conversion
10 "Bruce Horkings" [bruce@23Re: Series 3 gearbox wanted
11 reed3@c031.aone.net.au (16Double postings
12 Doug McPherson [haystack35110 Diesel for sale
13 "Beckett, Ron" [rbeckett49RE: 110 Diesel for sale
14 John Hodgson [johnhod@MI24'61 Series II - New Zealand
15 "Beckett, Ron" [rbeckett35RE: Child Seat Restraint Points in early RR's
16 "Bruce Horkings" [bruce@25Holden Conversion
17 "Jamie Hamilton" [JHAMIL21 2 202 or not 2 202?
18 "Beckett, Ron" [rbeckett37RE: 2 202 or not 2 202?
19 "Beckett, Ron" [rbeckett41RE: Holden Conversion
20 Andy Cockroft [xtr12664629Re: '61 Series II - New Zealand
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From: Hegarty Lindsay <Lindsay.Hegarty@dnr.qld.gov.au>
Subject: Child Seat Restraint Points in early RR's
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:56:30 +1000

Hello all,

Moving from the tyres to the inside of the vehicle for a moment......
I would appreciate any help with the following questions:

QUESTION 1) 
I wish to add a child seat to the rear of my 1983 Range Rover (4 door). 
This model did not come with any seat anchor points.  Sure I could make
an anchor point myself, but I want it to be "above board" and Dept of
Transport approved for insurance liability purposes.  So far my
investigations have had a few set backs.  Last week I booked the car
into a local (Brisbane) company who assured me over the phone that they
could fit an approved "Crab Bar" (a bar that bolts to either side of the
waist rail just behind the rear seat).  After 2 hours of trying, along
with a couple of new holes I didn't have before, they gave up.  I won't
be recommending them to anyone on the list.

Further investigations to date have revealed that a Crab Bar cannot be
fitted legally to the Range Rover, rather the only legal option is a
"Restraint Post" ($190 fitted and with compliance plate).  This is a
braced vertical post mounted through the floor of the cargo area.  The
only problem with the post idea is that a fair bit of the cargo area is
taken up with the post. Sure it can be folded down when not in use, but
it will have constant use in my car so where will the 2 large dogs fit? 
  

Any ideas?

QUESTION 2)
On the subject of dogs.  Does anyone know where I can get a reasonably
cheap dog barrier for a Ragne Rover.  I don't want a floor to roof cargo
barrier ($350) just a barrier that extends from the top of the rear seat
to the roof to stop the dogs licking the baby's face.  I was talking to
a local offroad outlet who specialise in Rover and he said that he had
seen heavy duty plastic barriers that could be easily removed, but he
did not know where to get them.  I am hoping to pay less than $150.

Any ideas?

Thanks.....Lindsay
Brisbane - Queensland

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Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 17:35:35 +1000
From: reed3@c031.aone.net.au (Barb Twite)
Subject: Range Rover diesel conversion

Hello out there,

Have any of you ever converted a late '70's or early '80's (petrol)Range
Rover to a 6.2 or 6.5 G.M.V8 Diesel (or do you know of anyone who has done so)?

If so:
Are there any major problems associated with such a conversion?
What transmission are you running?
Is there a weight difference problem?
What is the fuel economy like (off-bitumen)?

Hope someone can help.

Regards,

Allan Twite
reed3@c031.aone.net.au

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Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 17:35:33 +1000
From: reed3@c031.aone.net.au (Barb Twite)
Subject: Series III gearbox wanted

Hi everyone,

I am looking for a gearbox for my old Series III 109 one-tonner. It need
only be in fair condition, as the old Landie is used as a farm/paddock
vehicle only (ie no road use).

If anyone has one, or knows of the whereabouts of something which may be
suitable, please contact me.

Allan Twite
c/o reed3@c031.aone.net.au
Phone (056)57 2365

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Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 10:12:19 +1300
From: David L Dean <deand@kea.lincoln.ac.nz>
Subject: FS: 1984 109 HT in Christchurch, NZ

Hi LR owners,

I need to sell my 1984 ex-RNZAF (only tarmac use) 109 3dr HT.  It
has the original 2.25 petrol and a LPG unit with an 80 litre tank. 
The truck is in pristine condition with an exceptional  interior,
exterior and chassis.  It has 108,000ks and I'm the third owner. 

It is white/white with good (60%) 7.50 16 tyres. I'm asking NZ$8,000
Please phone or send me a note if you have any questions or want to
see the vehicle.

work: 03-325-2811 x8299
home: 03-329-4411

Cheers,

------- (David L. Dean - Department of Economics & Marketing) -------
----------- (Lincoln University, Canterbury, New Zealand) -----------
--- ("sober fearless pursuit of truth, beauty, & righteousness") ----

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: RE: Range Rover diesel conversion
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 96 09:34:00 EST

Alan,
There is a mob in Brisbane (Australia, for O/S readers) that does 6.2 GM 
conversions for Tojos.  They may be worth checking out.  I'll have to go to 
the local library and riffle through back issues of  4WD Overlander mag for 
the article.
Also in Land Rover Owner International (August 1996), there was an article 
on conversion of a later RR LSE to a 6.2 GM diesel.  If you can't locate the 
article, email me and I can photocopy and fax or mail it to you.
Apparently the 6.2 goes in very nicely.

Regards,

Ron
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From: reed3@c031.aone.net.au
Subject: Range Rover diesel conversion
Date: Monday, 4 November 1996 5:35PM

Hello out there,

Have any of you ever converted a late '70's or early '80's (petrol)Range
Rover to a 6.2 or 6.5 G.M.V8 Diesel (or do you know of anyone who has done
so)?

If so:
Are there any major problems associated with such a conversion?
What transmission are you running?
Is there a weight difference problem?
What is the fuel economy like (off-bitumen)?

Hope someone can help.

Regards,

Allan Twite
reed3@c031.aone.net.au

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From: bigbear@hutch.com.au
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 07:45:57 +1000
Subject: [Fwd: Range Rover diesel conversion]
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There's an English magazine called Land Rover Owner International,
available some newsagents. Two issues back there was an article on
fitting Gimmies to Land/Range Rovers which may answer your questions.
Cheers,
Michael McKinnon

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Hello out there,

Have any of you ever converted a late '70's or early '80's (petrol)Range
Rover to a 6.2 or 6.5 G.M.V8 Diesel (or do you know of anyone who has done so)?

If so:
Are there any major problems associated with such a conversion?
What transmission are you running?
Is there a weight difference problem?
What is the fuel economy like (off-bitumen)?

Hope someone can help.

Regards,

Allan Twite
reed3@c031.aone.net.au

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Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:34:44 +1100 (EST)
From: Doug McPherson <haystack@netspace.net.au>
Subject: Steering 'looseness'

Hi all.

I've just taken my new 110 for a trip down to Gippsland (300km), and it
needs some work on the steering !!

At speed its very 'floaty', and steering corrections seem to take time to
have their effect. Most disconcerting, but still drivable, you just need to
start cornering before you hit a corner.

I don't expect the 110 to steer like a sports car, but I think this is
ab-normal.

So

1) How do your 110's steer. I know you can't really describe it in words,
but how much correction does it take to drive at 100kmh ?

2) Which bits to do first ? The upper A-frame bushes seem stuffed (rear-axle
side location I assume), so I'll start there. Which other bushes to start on
next ? I'll probably do most of the back end anyway, since I'll have most of
it off to do the top bushes.

Polybushes: The general consensus seemed to be that polybushes don't really
do much for a 110, and that ordinary OEM bushes are the best to use, so I'll
probably use original ones.

Thanks in advance,

Doug.

PS: the truck was remarkably quiet on the highway. I'm used to a Renault
Virage (late model R12), and I'd say the 110 wasn't much noisier than that,
even with the BFG M/T's, so that's a good thing.

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Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 14:33:37 +1000
From: reed3@c031.aone.net.au (Barb Twite)
Subject: Series 3 gearbox wanted

Hi everyone,

I am looking for a gearbox for my old Series III 109 one-tonner. It need
only be in fair condition, as the old Landie is used as a farm/paddock
vehicle only (ie no road use).

If anyone has one, or knows of the whereabouts of something which may be
suitable, please contact me.

Allan Twite
c/o reed3@c031.aone.net.au
Phone (056)57 2365

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Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 14:33:39 +1000
From: reed3@c031.aone.net.au (Barb Twite)
Subject: Range Rover V8 diesel conversion

Hello out there,

Have any of you ever converted a late '70's or early '80's Range Rover to a
6.2 or 6.5 G.M.V8 Diesel (or do you know of anyone who has done so)?

If so:
Are there any major problems associated with such a conversion?
What transmission are you running?
Is there a weight difference problem?
What is the fuel economy like (off-bitumen)?

Hope someone can help.

Regards,

Allan Twite
reed3@c031.aone.net.au

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From: "Bruce Horkings" <bruce@nmit.vic.edu.au>
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:50:07 -1000
Subject: Re: Series 3 gearbox wanted

G'day Allan,

I've just put in a Holden 202 and a 5 speed gearbox to match in my 
1978 SIII LWB so I have the gearbox thats not to bad and is just laying about in the garage 
collecting grease. So if you are intrested and can get to the eastern 
suburbs of Melbourne then just send us a reply.

Regards
Regards,

Bruce Horkings
Computer Services Department
Northern Melbourne Institute of TAFE
St Georges Road, Preston, 3072, Victoria, Australia.
email:bruce@nmit.vic.edu.au
phone: +61 03 92701450
fax: +61 03 92701449

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Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 06:01:20 +1000
From: reed3@c031.aone.net.au (Barb Twite)
Subject: Double postings

Hello everyone - just an apology for the double posting of the messages
regarding the Range Rover diesel conversion, and series 3 gearbox. I used
the  *au-lro@Land-Rover.Team.Net*   address first and was advised of
delivery problems, so re-sent using the *@playground.sun.com* address.

Apparently both work!!

Thanks to the people who have answered so far.

Regards,
Allan Twite

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Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:17:46 +1100 (EST)
From: Doug McPherson <haystack@netspace.net.au>
Subject: 110 Diesel for sale

A quick note for all.

In today's Melbourne Trading Post. (Thurs 7/11/96), the following vehicle is
for sale,

1986 LR 110
3.9 Isuzu Diesel
5 spd
183000km's
new Michelin tyres
diff lock (centre diff I assume)
air bags (??????)
roof rack
red

$18500

ph: 0418-360555
(03) 95712882
Malvern

I thought that due to the rarity of such vehicles, it may be of interest to
someone.

This of course comes 2 weeks after I buy my V8 110, 'cos I couldn't find a
diesel 110 in my price range !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Geez life's a pain some times.

Doug.

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: RE: 110 Diesel for sale
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 96 15:24:00 EST

Quick, Doug.  Take out another loan and buy it then sell the V8.

I had a similar problem recently so now I have two RRs - wanna buy one?

Ron
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From: Doug McPherson
Subject: 110 Diesel for sale
Date: Thursday, 7 November 1996 1:17PM

A quick note for all.

In today's Melbourne Trading Post. (Thurs 7/11/96), the following vehicle
is
for sale,

1986 LR 110
3.9 Isuzu Diesel
5 spd
183000km's
new Michelin tyres
diff lock (centre diff I assume)
air bags (??????)
roof rack
red

$18500

ph: 0418-360555
(03) 95712882
Malvern

I thought that due to the rarity of such vehicles, it may be of interest to
someone.

This of course comes 2 weeks after I buy my V8 110, 'cos I couldn't find a
diesel 110 in my price range
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Geez life's a pain some times.

Doug.

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From: John Hodgson <johnhod@MICROSOFT.com>
Subject: '61 Series II - New Zealand
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:38:16 -0800

I have come across a '61 Series II LWB parked up in a farmers shed with
a seized clutch (says it is seized onto the flywheel)

he has had it about 20 years in which it has done about 15 thousand
miles mostly paddock work. It is showing 35 thou miles on the clock but
he says it is second time around. 

He says the motor is in ok running order and rest of it is quite tidy.

Anybody care to venture an idea of its value? he is willing to sell it
but wants me to come up with a "fair" price!!!

I have owned an '87 RR Vogue EFI the last 4 years but have never owned a
LR.  What else should I look for on a vehicle like this or beware of?

My interest is as a project for me and my 15 year old son.

John Hodgson

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: RE: Child Seat Restraint Points in early RR's
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 96 22:05:00 EST

Lindsay,

Are you sure there are no spare anchor points in your '83.

My '83 4-door seems to have 5 thru-floor mounts in a row of which 2 are the 
normal seat belt anchorages (the centre belt shares the the 2 mounts)
About 6 inches back min has had more thru-floor bolts fitted.  These go 
through an inverted top-hat section chassis member which is above the fuel 
tank.  You can see this if you look up under the rear wheel arch.

 >Lindsay Hegarty wrote:
>QUESTION 1)
>I wish to add a child seat to the rear of my 1983 Range Rover (4 door).
>This model did not come with any seat anchor points.  Sure I could make

>QUESTION 2)
>On the subject of dogs
> stop the dogs licking the baby's face

Why?  Has the baby got something that will affect the dogs???  8->  (Don't 
let your wife see this - she'll hit the roof!)

Ron

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From: Hegarty Lindsay
Subject: Child Seat Restraint Points in early RR's
Date: Monday, 4 November 1996 10:56AM

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From: "Bruce Horkings" <bruce@nmit.vic.edu.au>
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:01:06 -1000
Subject: Holden Conversion

Howdy All,

Just a quick question for anyone whos placed a Holden Engine into 
their Landy. I've put in a 202 with a 5 speed gearbox into a SIII '78 
LWB. My question is how have people connected the accelerator linkage 
up. Is it simple to modify a Landrover/Holden linkage or I was 
considering just a cable between the two. Any help would be 
appreciated as the car will hopefully be on the road in 2-3 weeks 
after being off since early April. 

Regards,

Bruce Horkings
Computer Services Department
Northern Melbourne Institute of TAFE
St Georges Road, Preston, 3072, Victoria, Australia.
email:bruce@nmit.vic.edu.au
phone: +61 03 92701450
fax: +61 03 92701449

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From: "Jamie Hamilton" <JHAMILTON@earwig.ed.ac.cowan.edu.au>
Date:          Fri, 8 Nov 1996 12:22:09 GMT+0800
Subject:       2 202 or not 2 202?

Greetings All

I am a non-Landie owning lurker who has a plan of meeting up with a 
SIII sometime soon.

If its not too boring and rehashing a tired topic, I would like to 
hear some opinions for and against purchasing a Landie with an engine 
conversion (other things being equal).  My feeling is that you should 
stick with originality but so many people seemed to have made the 
change looking at the classifieds.

Jamie
Western Australia
71 Rover P5B
Triumph Bonneville

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: RE: 2 202 or not 2 202?
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 96 21:19:00 EST

Jamie,
I don't own a LR but a RR.  However, if I were buying a LR I'd buy one with 
a Holden motor 179, 186 or 202 6-cylinder or with a Valiant 265 Hemi motor. 
 The latter may be difficult to get a conversion kit for these days.  If you 
aren't reselling, does it matter if it ain't original.  If you want to tow, 
the Holden will do a better job and the fuel economy is probably better than 
the LR engine

Ron

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From: Jamie Hamilton
Subject: 2 202 or not 2 202?
Date: Friday, 8 November 1996 10:22PM

Greetings All

I am a non-Landie owning lurker who has a plan of meeting up with a
SIII sometime soon.

If its not too boring and rehashing a tired topic, I would like to
hear some opinions for and against purchasing a Landie with an engine
conversion (other things being equal).  My feeling is that you should
stick with originality but so many people seemed to have made the
change looking at the classifieds.

Jamie
Western Australia
71 Rover P5B
Triumph Bonneville

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: RE: Holden Conversion
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 96 21:19:00 EST

Bruce,

If you don't get a local reply, try faxing Charlie Shaw on Norfolk Island. 
 He has a IIA with a Holden motor (plus one with a 265 Hemi Chrysler).
His fax no. is +672 3 23889
Tel: +672 3 22789
Don't forget, it's an international call at 90c per minute.

Ron

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From: Bruce Horkings
Subject: Holden Conversion
Date: Saturday, 9 November 1996 10:01AM

Howdy All,

Just a quick question for anyone whos placed a Holden Engine into
their Landy. I've put in a 202 with a 5 speed gearbox into a SIII '78
LWB. My question is how have people connected the accelerator linkage
up. Is it simple to modify a Landrover/Holden linkage or I was
considering just a cable between the two. Any help would be
appreciated as the car will hopefully be on the road in 2-3 weeks
after being off since early April.

Regards,

Bruce Horkings
Computer Services Department
Northern Melbourne Institute of TAFE
St Georges Road, Preston, 3072, Victoria, Australia.
email:bruce@nmit.vic.edu.au
phone: +61 03 92701450
fax: +61 03 92701449

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Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 08:05:27 -0800
From: Andy Cockroft <xtr12664601@xtra.co.nz>
Subject: Re: '61 Series II - New Zealand

John Hodgson wrote:
> I have come across a '61 Series II LWB parked up in a farmers shed with
> a seized clutch (says it is seized onto the flywheel)
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> LR.  What else should I look for on a vehicle like this or beware of?
> My interest is as a project for me and my 15 year old son.
> John Hodgson

John,

I have purchased quite a few 'farm' vehicles over the years, and it's
value really depends on what it is worth to you!

In general, the fetch between NZ$350 & NZ$600 according to condition (ie
rust).

e-mail me privately if you would like further discussion.

Regards

Andy
63 IIa 
70 IIa Lightweight
96 IIa 6x6 nearly finished

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: subscribe
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 96 22:49:00 EST

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From: Lloyd Perrin <Perrinl@melbourne.jde.com.au>
Subject: Subscription
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:14:41 +1000

I'd like to be included on your Land Rover mailing list thanks...

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