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1 "Bruce Horkings" [BRUCE@81 Re: Bush Rangie vs Lada Niva.
2 "Bruce Horkings" [BRUCE@27 Camping spots in VIC
3 James Mercer [james@mips61Fielder Air Suspension.
4 kbossard@mgdestmx01.erin27Land Rover rental
5 "Beckett, Ron" [rbeckett72RE: Re:Rover V8
6 "Beckett, Ron" [rbeckett38GM Diesel Conversions, Oil Filters etc and other bum steers.
7 Daryl Webb [dwebb@waite.55Re: Re:Rover V8
8 "Beckett, Ron" [rbeckett68Re: Re:Rover V8
9 Tony Yates [a.yates@bom.23Romani ite domum
10 bigbear@hutch.com.au 18[Fwd: Re: Rover V8]
11 kbossard@mgdestmx01.erin19FC101 4 Sale
12 Peter Stupans [pstupans@27high octane gas
13 Matthew Loxton [matthewl22Price of RR's
14 Noel Puzey [noelp@bom.go29RR for sale - Perth WA
15 Noel Puzey [noelp@bom.go45Re: Price of RR's
16 "Beckett, Ron" [rbeckett38RE: high octane gas
17 "Beckett, Ron" [rbeckett64Re: Price of RR's
18 James Hamilton [j.hamilt29Re: Price of RR's
19 "Beckett, Ron" [rbeckett57Re: Price of RR's
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From: "Bruce Horkings" <BRUCE@nmit.vic.edu.au>
Date:          Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:58:34 -1000
Subject:       Re: Bush Rangie vs Lada Niva.

Date sent:      Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:24:57 +0800
From:           James Mercer <james@mips.cs.murdoch.edu.au>
Organization:   Murdoch University
Subject:        Bush Rangie vs Lada Niva.

Hi All,

I saw an interesting happening at the Perth 4wd show on Friday night.

John Davis was over here and had a couple of his Bush Rangies/Rangers
with him.  After performing some minor repairs to the machine fitted 
with the Fielder Air Suspension, he proceeded to drive across the
bullbar of a trashed niva that they had staked down for recovery demos.

John started by driving across the top of the bullbar from right to 
left.  He just sort of nosed up to the side of the niva and then 
applied some power, and the beast just eased its way up the side.
He didn't drive completely over, and had to back the Rangie off.
He next approached the niva from straight on, and ran the Rangies
drivers side wheels up the drivers side of the niva.  He didn't stop
the rangie till its front tyre was directly over the drivers seat
of the niva.  He couldn't drive completely over the top as the back of
the niva was lashed to a largish tree :).

John told me that he would send me the photo to add to my Rangie home
page. http://www.cs.murdoch.edu.au/~james/rangie.html

The green rangie with the Air suspension is fitted with a 4.6lt
Supercharged v8 producing ~500HP (I think).  John also mentioned
something about building a mid-engined racing Rangie fitted with an
american built racing v8 and a 6 speed gear box (I think 6lt and
~800HP). 

Someone also had a v8 off-road racing Defender capable of 250km/h.

Land Rover didn't supply any vehicles for the test track either :(.

Later,
James.

PS: Apparently the Fielder air suspension will be fittable to the old
leaf sprung Land Rovers... :)

-- 

+-------------------------------------+-------------------------------+
|Professional Officer                 | Fax: +61 9 360 2941           |
|Department of Information Technology |                               |
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
|South St, Murdoch         | Email: james@cs.murdoch.edu.au           |
|Perth, Western Australia  | WWW: http://www.cs.murdoch.edu.au/~james
+--------------------------+------------------------------------------+

G'day All

Just a quick question to James and anyone else who might have 
something to say about the Fielder Air Suspension. What is it and how 
is it set up. Is this just another kit like the polyair system ( I 
think that's what it is called) or does it differ a lot. Also James 
mentioned it could be fitted to leaf sprung LR's, what are the 
advantages etc............... I'm not looking to use the system it 
just sounds intresting.

Thanks all

Regards,

Bruce Horkings
Computer Services Department
Northern Melbourne Institute of TAFE
St Georges Road, Preston, 3072, Victoria, Australia.
email:bruce@nmit.vic.edu.au
phone: +61 03 92701450
fax: +61 03 92701449

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From: "Bruce Horkings" <BRUCE@nmit.vic.edu.au>
Date:          Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:08:48 -1000
Subject:       Camping spots in VIC

Howdy folks,

After some info about camping spots past Cann River in Victoria. We 
are looking at entering the National Park. Since I cant' even 
pronounce the parks name let alone spell it I wont' even try. But 
what I'm after is some info on some good "bush" campsites and things 
to see in the area. We are going for around 8 days and travelling 
through the park but it seems all the designated sights have to be 
booked for 1 week which we don't want to do. 

Thanks in advance for any info

Regards,

Bruce Horkings
Computer Services Department
Northern Melbourne Institute of TAFE
St Georges Road, Preston, 3072, Victoria, Australia.
email:bruce@nmit.vic.edu.au
phone: +61 03 92701450
fax: +61 03 92701449

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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:38:58 +0800
From: James Mercer <james@mips.cs.murdoch.edu.au>
Subject: Fielder Air Suspension.

Hi Bruce,

I don't claim to be an expert... I only know what I have read, and
what I picked up on listening to John Davis and Nick Fielder at the 
Perth 4x4 show last weekend.

The Sofcom 4wd pages has some info on it:
http://www.sofcom.com.au/4WD/Suspension/Fielder.html

If you you want to find out all the details, I have Nick Fielder's
card somewhere, I can try to find it for you.

Basically, your existing suspension springs (coil or leaf) are 
replaced with "air bags", and a large belt driven air compressor is
fitted to your engine.  It is all interconnected using 1/4 in air hose
and fast acting valves.  The system then endevours to keep your vehicle
level and keep equal weight on all 4 wheels.  This is done by actively
altering the pressure in the airbags.

They use a 486 chip and a battery of sensors to monitor the dynamics
of the vehicle and adjust the suspension accordingly.

The demo I saw used 2 Bush Rangies, one with air suspension and one
without.  The Rangie with the air suspension drove straight through the
demo track while the one without the air suspension needed front, rear
and center dif locks to get through.
 
It would be nice to have a Series landy with suspension that out 
performs a coil sprung vehicle. :)

Pity it will double the value of the Landy :(.

When the system goes into production it should cost $AUS6k-8k. 

Hmmmm... Turbo Diesel Bush Rangie with Fielder air suspension...
Anyone got a spare $50k they want to give me :)

Hope this helps,
James.

> G'day All
> Just a quick question to James and anyone else who might have
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 14 lines)]
> just sounds intresting.
> Thanks all
> Regards,

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|James Mercer                         | Ph:  +61 9 360 2790           |
|Professional Officer                 | Fax: +61 9 360 2941           |
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
|South St, Murdoch         | Email: james@cs.murdoch.edu.au           |
|Perth, Western Australia  | WWW: http://www.cs.murdoch.edu.au/~james
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From: kbossard@mgdestmx01.erin.gov.au
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 96 15:43:39 EST
Subject: Land Rover rental

Dear All
I recieved the following mail the other day and am now seeking assistance from
others in Oz. Apparently JD's son flies into Sydney. Replies to me and I'll pass
them on.
KarlB
Land Rover Club of the ACT
_______________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Land Rover rental
From:    jfeemste@Adobe.COM (J D Feemster) at mgdestmx01
Date:    14/11/96  1:28 PM

Karl Bossard,
   I got you name and e.mail address off a rover WEB site in California. My
son will be traveling in Australia in February '97 and we would like to
know if anyone rents rovers. We much prefer traveling off the normal beaten
path and prefer to be independent. Any information would be most
appreciated.

Thanks,
-jd  '72 SIII 88

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: RE: Re:Rover V8
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 96 21:03:00 EST

Um, I think the P76 version of the engine was 4.4L.  My '83 RR has the High 
Compression engine of 9.35:1.  Gasohol seems to work OK in it (sold by BOGAS 
in NSW).  Dunno who might make it in other States.
OK, for us not schooled in the classics (other than the RR Classic), what 
does "ROMANI ITE DOMUM!" mean???  When I started high school in Queensland 
in the early 60's I was in an "Academic" class that did Latin but after a 
week or so, I transferred to what was termed an "Industrial" class.  So now 
I have finally found an instance whre my lack of education in Latin has 
proved a disadvantage!!  8->

Avgas??  And will we pay the road tax?? 8=]

Ron

 ----------
From: Graeme.Oxley@classics.utas.edu.au
Subject: Re:Rover V8
Date: Monday, 18 November 1996 9:18AM

Hi Russ,

>"Dick Mason" <dickm@dedot.com> wrote:
>>you're correct, it was used in 1962 Oldsmobiles and Buicks (Cutlass and
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>Isn't this the alloy V8 which Leyland Oz put in their abortive Oz 6 or 8,
>the P76?  Years ahead of its' time, this car died a sad death,
contributing
>to the winding-down of Leyland Oz and the end of Mini production here.
The
>P76 is becoming a cult item much as the Mini has done, albeit on a smaller
>scale, and I suspect will ultimately be hard to find cheaply.
>Trivia from Russ in Oz

I think that the Leyland version was also stroked to 4.2 litres. Not a bad
idea, considering how oversquare the Rover motor is. (Revs well, though.
Especially with a cam..... (-:   ) Also, the original Rover motor runs at
10.5:1 CR, and pings like crazy on our so-called "Super". The Leyland
version runs at a much more sensible 9:1, or thereabouts. (Well, I think
that it's more sensible. I'll have to pay the bills for the piston crown
damage )-: I haven't had any yet, touch wood. Anyone know of a good supply
of Avgas in Hobart?)

Just some more trivia.

Graeme.

 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 

 -
Graeme Oxley
Classics Dept.
University of Tasmania

Ph: 018 129 319

E-mail-                 Graeme.Oxley@classics.utas.edu.au

Snail mail -           Classics Dept., University of Tasmania, G.P.O Box
252C, Hobart, Tasmania 7001
AUSTRALIA
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 

 -

ROMANI ITE DOMUM! - Brian

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: GM Diesel Conversions, Oil Filters etc and other bum steers.
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 96 22:24:00 EST

What?  Me give a bum steer?  Never!! <grin>
I recently said that the Racor after market cleanable oil filter was priced 
at around Aust $120.  I took this out of a magazine.  This month's copy of 
the mag apologised for the error - it should have read $400.

Alan Twite recently asked about info on the 5.7L and  6.2L GM Diesle 
conversions for 4WD.
Alan, I found an article in July 1993 Overlander  about the conversion being 
done on a Land Cruiser 60 series by the Queensland (Aust) company that fits 
them to Tojos and others.  Contact:

Lindsay Cullen
LinQuip Automotive Equipment
Unit 9
348 Southpine Rd.
Brendale
Qld 4500
tel: +61 7 3881-0686
fax: +61 7 3881-0687
after hours +61 7 3261-2134

They list conversion kits for Land Cruisers, Patrols, Chev C20 & C30, Fords 
F100, F150, F350, Bedfords and Jeeps.  Do you want me to send a copy of the 
article down to you?  (It was you, Alan, that wanted the info?  I've deleted 
the original message.)

What other bum steers you ask.  I can't think of any at the moment but I am 
sure that there were some so I'll apologise in advance.

Bi

Ron

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From: Daryl Webb <dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Re:Rover V8
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:41:03 +1030 (CDT)

Ron writes:
> Um, I think the P76 version of the engine was 4.4L.

  Yup 3.5" x 3.5"  4416 cc  9.0:1 in the P76,  ~ 8.0:1 in the terrier 
(these pistons are now very rare AFAIK)  

> Gasohol seems to work OK in it (sold by BOGAS 
> in NSW).  Dunno who might make it in other States.

Never seen gasahol here in SA, when I first read about it on the net i 
thought it must have been americans, but the addresses were .au, was very 
confused.....

> Avgas??  And will we pay the road tax?? 8=]

Well when you buy it as 100-102 (I think) RON it  cost over $1.00 per 
litre at the pump (and that was early last year), so I guess the govt 
gets its cut...

> >>It also had a life down under where it was converted by Sir
> >>Jack Brabham for use in F1.

Supposedly this was the olds version, or a clone there of with six head 
bolts, not the buick-which-became-rover.  anyone have solid information 
on this.
> Also, the original Rover motor runs at 10.5:1 CR, and pings like crazy 
> on our so-called "Super".

P5 coupe?  and (most ?) P6B motors were 10.5, but this stopped in the 
seventies didnt it. the early rangies were 8.5, later ones either 8.13 or 
9.35, most SD1's were 8.13, stage 1's were 8.13, D110's were 9.35, I 
think the highest recent CR was 9.75 ish in the vitesses...

> Anyone know of a good supply of Avgas in Hobart?)

Ask around the performance/speed shops, most likely there are one or two
servo's with 100+ octane "on-tap", or a racing fuel distributer who will
deliver 44's, if that doesnt help ask around classic car clubs (the type
with high CR motors fitted), or just ring the fuel wholesalers direct and
ask who they sell 100+ octane

For those in Adelaide,  OG Road Speed Shop, The BP servo on OG road, has 
a 100+ pump around the side

cheers

-- 

  Daryl Webb   (dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au)

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: Re: Re:Rover V8
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 96 11:59:00 EST

I recall that when the P76 stopped production, that the local BMC dealer had 
brand new long motors i.e. complete with starter, alternator, carbs, 
aircleaners etc for $400.  I seriously considered buying one to put in my 
Ford Transit van.

Ron
 ----------
From: Daryl Webb
Cc: au-lro@playground.sun.com; Graeme.Oxley@classics.utas.edu.au
Subject: Re: Re:Rover V8
Date: Wednesday, 20 November 1996 10:11AM

Ron writes:
> Um, I think the P76 version of the engine was 4.4L.

  Yup 3.5" x 3.5"  4416 cc  9.0:1 in the P76,  ~ 8.0:1 in the terrier
(these pistons are now very rare AFAIK)

> Gasohol seems to work OK in it (sold by BOGAS
> in NSW).  Dunno who might make it in other States.

Never seen gasahol here in SA, when I first read about it on the net i
thought it must have been americans, but the addresses were .au, was very
confused.....

> Avgas??  And will we pay the road tax?? 8=]

Well when you buy it as 100-102 (I think) RON it  cost over $1.00 per
litre at the pump (and that was early last year), so I guess the govt
gets its cut...

> >>It also had a life down under where it was converted by Sir
> >>Jack Brabham for use in F1.

Supposedly this was the olds version, or a clone there of with six head
bolts, not the buick-which-became-rover.  anyone have solid information
on this.
> Also, the original Rover motor runs at 10.5:1 CR, and pings like crazy
> on our so-called "Super".

P5 coupe?  and (most ?) P6B motors were 10.5, but this stopped in the
seventies didnt it. the early rangies were 8.5, later ones either 8.13 or
9.35, most SD1's were 8.13, stage 1's were 8.13, D110's were 9.35, I
think the highest recent CR was 9.75 ish in the vitesses...

> Anyone know of a good supply of Avgas in Hobart?)

Ask around the performance/speed shops, most likely there are one or two
servo's with 100+ octane "on-tap", or a racing fuel distributer who will
deliver 44's, if that doesnt help ask around classic car clubs (the type
with high CR motors fitted), or just ring the fuel wholesalers direct and
ask who they sell 100+ octane

For those in Adelaide,  OG Road Speed Shop, The BP servo on OG road, has
a 100+ pump around the side

cheers

 --

  Daryl Webb   (dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au)

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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 19:05:07 +0700
From: Tony Yates <a.yates@bom.gov.au>
Subject: Romani ite domum

>OK, for us not schooled in the classics (other than the RR Classic), what 
>does "ROMANI ITE DOMUM!" mean???  When I started high school in Queensland 

Romans go home!

What have the Romans ever done for us? ........

Cheers.  Tony.
*********************************************************************

Tony Yates
Senior Forecaster
Davis Meteorological Office
Australian Antarctic Territory

a.yates@bom.gov.au

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From: bigbear@hutch.com.au
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 09:24:35 +1000
Subject: [Fwd: Re: Rover V8]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Ron,
The Leyland V8 used in P76's is a 4.4l all alloy engine. I have one in
my S2A swb. For what it's worth it's difficult to keep in tune but goes
like the proverbial shower!
The latin phrase translates to Romans Go Home as any Latin scholar or
fan of Monty Python's Life of Brian can attest.
Regards,
Michael McKinnon

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From: kbossard@mgdestmx01.erin.gov.au
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 13:11:00 EST
Subject: FC101 4 Sale

Another 101 for sale in Australia.

Found the following add at http://www.redback.com/directory/

101 forward control V8, 4x4, 2 fuel tanks, new tyres, power winch, upright 3 way
fridge, Ranger gas cooker, with Rangehood, double bed, plenty of cupboards,
Uniden CB, radio/cassette $28,000 - Phone 08 2811236...BLANCHETOWN, SA.  

Apparently the add was posted 8 days ago.

Regards
KarlB
Land Rover Club of the ACT

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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:10:01 +1100 (EST)
From: Peter Stupans <pstupans@ozemail.com.au>
Subject: high octane gas

Those of you seeking high octane fuel for high compression engines need not
look past your noses for petrohol or avgas.
How about a fuel that costs half that of petrol and available just about
everywhere now. Still guessing?

LPG has an octane rating of between 100 and 110 depending on its mix of
propane and butane.

My 3.9 Disco runs very sweetly on the dual fuel conversion. (It still runs
fine on unleaded). The $2500 cost of the conversion will be recovered in
about 14 months at rate of 35,000 kms p.a.

Very worthwhile if you do the miles.

P Stupans
PO Box 580
Glebe 2037
Australia

pstupans@ozemail.com.au
tel:	+61 (0)2 9887 2359
fax:	+61 (0)2 9417 5066

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From: Matthew Loxton <matthewl@dinet.co.za>
Subject: Price of RR's
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:45:02 +-200

Can somebody please give me an idea of the going price of a 1987 Range =
Rover with aircon, power steering, 4-door, sunroof, electric =
windows/mirrors, 124000km, reasonable condition, V8 3.5 petrol.

The issue is that I might be migrating to Oz and want to know whether to =
ship the Rangie over with the rest of worldly goods or not. I paid =
R62000 for it here a few months back, and would like to keep it if its =
worthwhile, otherwise flog it here (South-Africa) and buy an equivalent =
model in Oz.

Any thoughts?

Matthew Loxton
S-III
1987 Rangy
matthewl@dinet.co.za

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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:29:36 +0800
From: Noel Puzey <noelp@bom.gov.au>
Subject: RR for sale - Perth WA

For Perth Peoples;

My brother is selling his 1980 rangie.
 barwork
 70%tyres
 dual fuel lpg conversion 65L gas tank
 bodywork/engine very good.
 
 Needs new windscreen but otherwise very presentable in landie beige.
 
Asking around $10k-11k, but negotiable.
Ph 096 611145 (Dalwallinu WA) and ask for Scott,

or alternatively myself at numbers below. Vehicle is in Perth for viewing.

Noel Puzey

Metdork

Bureau of Meteorology Perth Western Australia

ph 61 (0)9 2632255 Work
   61 (0)9 3682361 Home
   61 (0)9 2632261 Fax

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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:41:07 +0800
From: Noel Puzey <noelp@bom.gov.au>
Subject: Re: Price of RR's

Matthew,

For all motoring and other classified advertisements in Australia, there is
a site on the internet:

http://www.newsclassifieds.com.au

(I hope I've got this right)

which takes classified ads throughout Australia and uses a search engine to
find what you want eg motoring section,type in Range Rover and it will bring
up all national or regional ads with these words in them. Very useful. You
should be able to find something to match your Rangie in specs/year.

Noel Puzey 

At 10:45 AM 21/11/96 +-200, you wrote:
>Can somebody please give me an idea of the going price of a 1987 Range
Rover with aircon, power steering, 4-door, sunroof, electric
windows/mirrors, 124000km, reasonable condition, V8 3.5 petrol.
>The issue is that I might be migrating to Oz and want to know whether to

ship the Rangie over with the rest of worldly goods or not. I paid R62000
for it here a few months back, and would like to keep it if its worthwhile,
otherwise flog it here (South-Africa) and buy an equivalent model in Oz.
>Any thoughts?
>Matthew Loxton
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)]
>1987 Rangy
>matthewl@dinet.co.za

Noel Puzey

Metdork

Bureau of Meteorology Perth Western Australia

ph 61 (0)9 2632255 Work
   61 (0)9 3682361 Home
   61 (0)9 2632261 Fax

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: RE: high octane gas
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 21:58:00 EST

I agree, Peter, but I am not sure that I'd do enough km to pay for it in a 
reasonable time.

Ron
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From: Peter Stupans
Subject: high octane gas
Date: Thursday, 21 November 1996 5:10PM

Those of you seeking high octane fuel for high compression engines need not
look past your noses for petrohol or avgas.
How about a fuel that costs half that of petrol and available just about
everywhere now. Still guessing?

LPG has an octane rating of between 100 and 110 depending on its mix of
propane and butane.

My 3.9 Disco runs very sweetly on the dual fuel conversion. (It still runs
fine on unleaded). The $2500 cost of the conversion will be recovered in
about 14 months at rate of 35,000 kms p.a.

Very worthwhile if you do the miles.

P Stupans
PO Box 580
Glebe 2037
Australia

pstupans@ozemail.com.au
tel: +61 (0)2 9887 2359
fax: +61 (0)2 9417 5066

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: Re: Price of RR's
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 96 08:44:00 EST

Another site is http://www.tradingpost.com.au
You can search through the Trading Post newspaper in a number of cities or 
look at them all throughout the country..  You can also search on vehicle 
type etc and in the related sections e.g., 4wd.  Trading Post (paper) comes 
out on Thursday (in Sydney) and the on-line version seems to be updated the 
same day.

Matthew, you didn't say to which city or State you are moving.  This might 
affect the prices.

Ron
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From: Noel Puzey
Subject: Re: Price of RR's
Date: Thursday, 21 November 1996 8:41PM

Matthew,

For all motoring and other classified advertisements in Australia, there is
a site on the internet:

http://www.newsclassifieds.com.au

(I hope I've got this right)

which takes classified ads throughout Australia and uses a search engine to
find what you want eg motoring section,type in Range Rover and it will
bring
up all national or regional ads with these words in them. Very useful. You
should be able to find something to match your Rangie in specs/year.

Noel Puzey

At 10:45 AM 21/11/96 +-200, you wrote:
>Can somebody please give me an idea of the going price of a 1987 Range
Rover with aircon, power steering, 4-door, sunroof, electric
windows/mirrors, 124000km, reasonable condition, V8 3.5 petrol.
>The issue is that I might be migrating to Oz and want to know whether to

ship the Rangie over with the rest of worldly goods or not. I paid R62000
for it here a few months back, and would like to keep it if its worthwhile,
otherwise flog it here (South-Africa) and buy an equivalent model in Oz.
>Any thoughts?
>Matthew Loxton
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>1987 Rangy
>matthewl@dinet.co.za

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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 09:04:56 +0800
From: James Hamilton <j.hamilton@cowan.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Price of RR's

Matthew Loxton wrote:
> Can somebody please give me an idea of the going price of a 1987 Range Rover with aircon, power steering, 4-door, sunroof, electric windows/mirrors, 124000km,
> The issue is that I might be migrating to Oz and want to know whether to ship the Rangie over with the rest of worldly goods or not. I paid R62000 for it here

Just a general word of caution.  I am not au fait with the prices of 
these vehicles but my view is that any discrepency in price that may 
exist is there for a reason.  The days of saving heaps of money by 
bringing in a car are over.  If you save the money you pay in hassle, 
tears and grief with customs and licencing.  And you'll have a vehicle 
because of its non oz compliance that you won't sell for its "true 
worth"

An African Rangie will not be worth much in Oz.  Sell your African RR 
in Africa and buy one here for whatever it takes or whatever you can 
afford.  You will get an Oz compliance vehicle that you can always 
sell on and you will be selling your Af vehicle to someone who knows 
its worth.

Boring and negative, but my 2cents

Jamie
who during the 80's pulled the calculator every time he saw the Aston 
Martinprices in Classic Car - "look dad a DBS for the price of a 
Cortina....."

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From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: Re: Price of RR's
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 96 13:43:00 EST

Matthewe,
I'd have to agree with Jamie.  Unless the car is pre-Australian Design Rules 
(ADR), you may have problems getting it registered.  I am not sure what ADRs 
apply to 4WDs.  I think that your saving in bringing it over may be minimal 
if any.  It would be different if it were a highly desirable and/or rare 
vehicle Of course, I am not saying that RRs aren't desirable 8->)

Don't forget you may also have to pay customs duty when you bring it in 
although this is less for 4WDs.  You can get the info on Australian Customs 
requirements etc by asking for the appropriate brochure on the importation 
of motor vehicles from the Australian High Commission in Cape Town 
(Jo'burg??).

Ron

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From: James Hamilton
Subject: Re: Price of RR's
Date: Friday, 22 November 1996 11:04AM

Matthew Loxton wrote:
> Can somebody please give me an idea of the going price of a 1987 Range

Rover with aircon, power steering, 4-door, sunroof, electric
windows/mirrors, 124000km,
> The issue is that I might be migrating to Oz and want to know whether to

ship the Rangie over with the rest of worldly goods or not. I paid R62000
for it here

Just a general word of caution.  I am not au fait with the prices of
these vehicles but my view is that any discrepency in price that may
exist is there for a reason.  The days of saving heaps of money by
bringing in a car are over.  If you save the money you pay in hassle,
tears and grief with customs and licencing.  And you'll have a vehicle
because of its non oz compliance that you won't sell for its "true
worth"

An African Rangie will not be worth much in Oz.  Sell your African RR
in Africa and buy one here for whatever it takes or whatever you can
afford.  You will get an Oz compliance vehicle that you can always
sell on and you will be selling your Af vehicle to someone who knows
its worth.

Boring and negative, but my 2cents

Jamie
who during the 80's pulled the calculator every time he saw the Aston
Martinprices in Classic Car - "look dad a DBS for the price of a
Cortina....."

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