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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 09:01:48 -0700 (MST)
From: Tebbin Salvesen <tsalves@slcpl.slcpl.lib.ut.us>
Subject: Re: Pedestrains Bull Bars
On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Paul Orland wrote:
seems to me that 3 TONS is 3 TONS plastic and aluminum don't come in to
play it is mass that is at issue!
> grill/alluminum hood into the windshield/over the roof of a Disco rather
> than whumped down by an all steel ARB bumper/grill guard (and then probably
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> I just don't believe in govt. over-regulation!
> - Paul.
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From: PurnellJE@aol.com
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 11:39:36 -0500
Subject: Re: D90 Poor Defroster or (I can't see a damn thing!)
In a message dated 96-03-08 18:56:04 EST, you write:
>.
> You could also add a Radiator Muff which will increase your heater's
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>sells
>one for $39.00.
I suggest you use your 39.00 for the radiator muff to take your loved one,
the person who must endure the passenger seat for all those hours so you can
have your thrill of D90-ing, and take them out for a nice dinner with wine,
and bring a flower too.
Seriously, I don't thing the darn radiator muff did/does a darn thing for my
petrol D90. It may work better on the diesels, but I couldn't tell a
difference from "the seat of my pants" so to speak. I guess if I set up
thermocouples at strategic points I may measure a slightly higher
temperature, at a slightly quicker elapsed time, but ultimately the engine
runs at the same temperature becasue the cooling system is so damned big.
The only way to dramatically increase this heater's output is to
dramatically increase engine operating temperature, and this didn't happen.
It may heat up a hare's-breath sooner, but I didn't notice it.
The only time I noticed my temp gauge do anything out of the ordinary was
when I forgot to snap my raditaor muff open, and it flopped in front of the
rad. completley closed, I was on the freeway. The temp shot up to 3/4 and
concerned me until I reasoned the problme out. Yup, I got looked and that
was it, I snapped it open again.
John.
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From: PurnellJE@aol.com
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 11:39:28 -0500
Subject: Re: JE-4.5
In a message dated 96-03-08 19:21:27 EST, Theodore_S@msn.com (Theodore S.)
writes:
>John,
> If you are seriously interested in the JE-4.5 'Dakar' kit, you should
>contact Mike Hopwood at Rovers North. Mike's '94 D90 is running the JE-4.5
>just in case you were not already aware of the fact.
>- Theodore Sawyer
Thanks Theordore, but I'm gonna let El Jefe Senior Barnetto get one first, if
he likes it, and I blow my 3.9 up and win the lottery, then I'll buy one. :>)
Johnny90boy
...but I SURE like the idea!
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From: PurnellJE@aol.com
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 11:40:36 -0500
Subject: Re: Dealer loaners all the time?
Thanks very much to all of you who replied to this post. I am on firm ground
in asking for a loaner, that's for certain. Of course I'll ask politley, but
it sounds like I am not being unreasonable, especially since they'll have the
truck at least over night. David's advice was obviously the most
interesting...he uses my dealer too! ha ha. Of course this brings up another
question: was the loaner a Land Rover or a Buick? ha ha.
thanks again,.
John, D90, Madison, WI
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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:11:58 -0700
From: jeff@itouch.net (Jeff Kramer)
Subject: Re: Car and Driver
At 11:24 AM 3/8/96 -0500, HalatGRM@aol.com wrote:
>Car and Driver for April came yesterday with a sport utility comparison. The
>results:
>5: Acura SLX
>6: Land Rover Discovery SD
Funny thing, on Nissan's Pathfinder web site they have a comparison between
'off road vehicles', a nice little multimedia presentation, of course with
the Pathfinder being the only one that makes the par. Notably absent is
any mention of a Rover. (They didn't touch any of our Rachmoninov CD's,
eh? Hah! The monkeys know better, man...)
57th Street Inc. & itouch.net Jeff Kramer
http://www.itouch.net/~jeff/me.html jeff@itouch.net
- MOO Hacker, HTML Author, Diet Coke Addict, Budding Entrepreneur -
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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 96 15:42:12 EST
From: dmccor03@counsel.com (David McCormack -- Hinshaw ^ Culbertson - Brookfield )
Subject: Pedestrians Bull
To: RRO List, Inet
The percentage of people being hit by Land Rovers, let alone ones
with bull bars has got to be such a small number as to be nearly
statistically insignificant as a portion of all pedestrian/vehicle
fatalities. However, a lot of the appeal of bull bars -
particularly the less functional, more cosmetic ones - is
intimidation. They look tough. What percent of bull bar
equipped vehicles ever put them to the actual use for which they
were intended? (And I'm not talking about the occasional bump or
scrape. ) Therein lies the problem - mainly one of perception.
Non Land Rover owners (and for that matter, non-truck owners,
since bull bars are showing up on all manner of trucks and SUVs)
are (1) intimidated, (2) see no actual need for these large grates
(particularly in mall parking lots where many bull bars live out
their exciting, high adventure days fending off an occasional
rogue shopping cart), (3) are jealous. (They secretly wish they
could drive such an awesome piece of machinery.) Even though most
bull bars are now designed to be a crushable as the vehicle
itself, (an oxymoron if there ever was one) the perception is that
they are deadly. Add to this that they are generally unnecessary,
and often affixed to what the average person considers to be a
luxury vehicle and viola! you have a "something should be done
about those dangerous, obnoxious things" situation.
Personally, I hope the powers that be spend more time worrying
about real road hazards, but I can see Ralph Nader or Prime Time
whacking away at bull bars like some over-stuffed, slow falling,
16 inch softball.
Dave McCormack
'95 Discovery - no bull bar yet, but looking for one that is SRS
compatible while still being strong enough to be reasonably deer
proof.
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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 96 15:42:08 EST
From: dmccor03@counsel.com (David McCormack -- Hinshaw ^ Culbertson - Brookfield )
Subject: Dealer Loaners
To: RRO List, Inet
I'd like to be able to say that the dealer - Berndt - set me up in
a beautiful Range Rover Classic or a Mercedes. No way. Every
time I've gone, they call Enterprise Rental Car and they bring a
car over. The first car I got was so small that I feared that if
I got in an accident and the air bag deployed, it would blow the
car apart! Other cars have been more "normal" - I think the last
car was a Berretta. Good luck!
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Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 14:20:41 -0500
From: Shaun Carrigan <shaunc@infi.net>
Subject: Re: RR-servicing elec. seat controls
> Just worked on the inoperative electric seat controls and learned something...
> The switch has many ball bearings that pop out during reassembly. To ease
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> your reassembly pains, use heavy grease (or similar) on top of the springs
> that the bearings sit on. Do the same on the slots the sliders sit on.
Wouldn't so much grease interfere with conductivity and cause more
problems?
Shaun Carrigan
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From: KKelly6788@aol.com
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 17:50:52 -0500
Subject: Range Rover Power seats
>Just worked on the inoperative electric seat controls and learned
something...
>The switch has many ball bearings that pop out during reassembly. To ease
>your reassembly pains, use heavy grease (or similar) on top of the springs
>that the bearings sit on. Do the same on the slots the sliders sit on.
If any one has any problems with their Range Rover power seat switches let me
know, I have step by step method of repairing the switches typed up that I
can E-mail.
Kevin Kelly
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From: KKelly6788@aol.com
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 17:49:29 -0500
Subject: Disco Questions
>1. What is the actual MPG (US) of a Discovery TDi?
The Tdi is not available in the US, but in the Nov. '95 Land Rover Owner
International they reported that they were getting 29-34 mpg out of the Disco
Tdi ES that they were doing a 12 month long term test on.
>2. Is it possible to upgrade the internal electrical system to power a
>computer (PowerMac 8500) that draws 340 watts max continuous, 520 watts
>peak (though I would assume this is with a monitor, and would be much less
>without), a notebook computer, and recharge a pleathora of techno-toys?
If the Disco has the same alternator as my Range Rover it will power the
computer with the engine running (12 volts x 80 amp alternator = 960 watts).
The Range Rover has never had any trouble even when I have had all my toys
plugged in to the electrical system (cell phone, ham radio, CB, radar
detector, laptop computer)
>3. Is it possible to mount a solar recharge unit on the roof, and have it
>recharge the vehicles battery(s)?
I know this is technically possible, but I don't know how long it will take
or how many solar cells you will need.
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From: AKBLACKLEY@aol.com
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 19:22:35 -0500
Subject: Re: RR vacuum lines
Jim: I think it would be okay to delete the flame trap (if thats really what
it is). Ive got the part catalog so I'll fax you the relevant pages from work
on Monday. I think that the lines which are teed on yours go to the air
sensor in the air cleaner and the air flap valve. I'll check my truck again
and confirm.
I heartily agree with your comments on "our" RR models. We have the benefits
of a coil sprung, galv. dipped chassis, V-8 power, no power junk to go wrong,
super parts availibility,safety (collapsing steering column, disc brakes,
proper headrests and belts, etc.). I even love the old 4 speed on mine - it
reminds me that I am driving a truck, plus its just about bullet proof.
Cheers. Andy
PS My friend & neighbor, a Brit. car restorer, is currently transplanting a
Rover V8 into a Triumph Stag for a customer. The best part is that he is
using a 390CFM Holley carb on a dual plane Edelbrock manifold. I plan to
benefit from his experiences tuning this setup.Stay tuned.
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 96 00:41:36 UT
From: "Mark Talbot" <Land_Rover@msn.com>
Subject: RR- elec. seat controls
On re-assembly, I used some of the wife's hand cream, it helped "stick" the
bearings in place, it's also waterproof.
Mark
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From: Oscar
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 1996 4:28 AM
Subject: RR- Servicing elec. seat controls
Just worked on the inoperative electric seat controls and learned something...
The switch has many ball bearings that pop out during reassembly. To ease
your reassembly pains, use heavy grease (or similar) on top of the springs
that the bearings sit on. Do the same on the slots the sliders sit on.
Oscar
omont@mnl.sequel.net
'89 NAS RR
It does go off road!!
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 11:20:53 +0800
From: Oscar <omont@mnl.sequel.net>
Subject: RR-servicing elec. seat controls
At 02:20 PM 3/9/96 -0500, you wrote:
>> Just worked on the inoperative electric seat controls and learned
something...
>> The switch has many ball bearings that pop out during reassembly. To ease
>>(snip).........................
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>Wouldn't so much grease interfere with conductivity and cause more
>problems?
==================================
Shaun :
No, it won't if you only put grease on top of the springs where the ball
bearing sits on. This area does not require conductivity nor is there
enough heat in the box to melt the grease. Same with the other areas I
suggested grease on.
Oscar
omont@mnl.sequel.net
'89 NAS RR
It does go off road!!
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 11:21:01 +0800
From: Oscar <omont@mnl.sequel.net>
Subject: RR- '89 NAS fault code display
Am I blind, technically illiterate or simply not there? Do all '89 NAS
Rangies have a fault code display (box?)? Can't seem to find mine.
Thanks guys.
Oscar
omont@mnl.sequel.net
'89 NAS RR
It does go off road!!
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