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From: GElam30092@aol.com
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 10:32:50 -0500
Subject: Disco v J##p

Grant Wilkinson writes “Don't be ashamed of the JGC, Gerry, from my
experience, I wish I had gone that route.”

I haven’t been to Canada in a few years but I don’t think there are any
restrictions against selling your Disco.  If you’re that un-happy unload it.
 

As for me, my Discovery hasn’t given me more than a minute’s trouble.  The
only repairs were the steering bushing and transmission sensor.    I still
absolutely love the truck.  BTW, I’m approaching 18K and a bit over one
satisfied year of ownership.

As for the JGC,  I take some small pleasure in saying “It’s my wife’s car” to
other proud J##p owners.  And, if Steve from Britpac is fast, it will sport a
“LR The Best 4X4XFar” bumper sticker within a few days!

The J##p is no comparison to the Land Rover ... Repeat after me....

Gerry “Summer’s almost here, Phoenix AZ” Elam

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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 10:48:39 -0500
From: rvirzi@gte.com (Robert A. Virzi)
Subject: Lights

The >other< list is having a discussion relating to lighting.  I'm
wondering if any recent coil sprung owners have modified their lights.
Personally, I'm extremely impressed with the low beams on my '95 disco.
Very crisp upper cutoff and nice wide coverage.  I am less happy with the
hi-beams, which don't seem to throw light where I need it, especially on
twisty, rolling country roads.  Great for spotting owls in the trees, but
not so good for seeing the road.  (I've checked adjustment, and they seem
to be reasonably close to spec.)

Anyone else noticed this?  Anybody tried lamp upgrades or the like?

Thanks.
-Bob

  rvirzi@gte.com             Think Globally. ===
  +1(617)466-2881                            === Act Locally!

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From: Jeff Gauvin <jeffg@minerva.ncrmicro.ncr.com>
Subject: RE: D90 Directionals
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 96 8:50:23 MST

rruffer@interserv.com asks:

: On 1994 D90s, the front directional signals are located in the bumper.
: This is very inconvenient when you want to replace the bumper with one
: with a winch mount.  I have had some trouble finding bumpers with
: cutouts for these lights.  Does anyone have any experience with
: converting the lower front parking lights into directionals, like on
: U.K.  D90s?  Or, instead, replacing the plastic bezel and parking
: lights with those from a 95 D90?  Thanks in advance.

All of the ARB winch bumpers I've seen include directional signals, or
at least mounting holes for them.  They are good bumpers, if somewhat
heavy.  Another option:  the brochure for the '95 D90 shows a picture of
the optional LRNA winch mounting kit; the bumper shown has turn signals
(and is in fact mounted on a '94).

Rick Larson (on the rro list) is facing the same problem as you and has
investigated changing over to the '95 style signals; you should contact
him if he doesn't reply directly to your inquiry.

As a last resort, with a little cutting or drilling you could mount
signals on just about anything. Or, since nearly every winch bumper
includes mounting tabs for auxillary lights, just hook some yellow fog
lamps to the flasher circuit...

--
Jeff Gauvin
'94 D90, still winchless

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From: "Ruffer, Richard" <rufferr@moodys.com>
Subject: Lights
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 96 11:51:00 EST

Bob asks:
"Anybody tried lamp upgrades or the like?"

I've upgraded the headlights in my 94 D90 to Hella Vision Plus. They were a 
vast improvement over the stock lights with respect to the low beams. The 
beams are wide enough and bright enough that I've decided to hold off buying 
fog lights, at least for now ;-) I did not notice a huge difference in the 
high beams. I bought mine from Atlantic British, but almost everyone sells 
them.  Someone on the lro list wrote a detailed description of these lights 
in the last day or two if anyone needs more info.

Rich Ruffer
Morristown, NJ
rruffer@interserv.com
rufferr@moodys.com

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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 10:27:15 -0700
From: Paul Orland <paulor@chs.com>
Subject: Re: Lights

At 10:48 AM 3/22/96 -0500, Robert A. Virzi wrote:
>The >other< list is having a discussion relating to lighting.  I'm
>wondering if any recent coil sprung owners have modified their lights.
>  Anybody tried lamp upgrades or the like?

I am making the following modifications:

1. Replace stock 60/55W H4 bulbs with 100/80W H4 bulbs (Hella's, although I
dont think the bulbs themselves make that much difference)

2. Move PIAA Pro-80 130W Fogs from Montero onto Disco, using PIAA's GREAT
wiring harness, replaceing toggle switch with factory Disco fog light switch
(just recieved it, about $11) and wired into high beams.

Yes, that's right, I'm wiring the "fog" lights to high beams. If anyone is
considering buying a high wattage aux. light, I would stongly recommend
fog's vs. driving or pencils. Pencils are nearly useless except in loooonggg
straights, Fogs are geat for illuminating curves, but when aimed up a
little, are completely blinding to oncoming traffic.

Concerns:
--------------
A. Can factory headlamp wiring harness handle the 100/80W bulbs in the
factory headlamps? If not, PIAA makes a relay/wiring kit that uses the
factory wiring to control the lights, but wires up power directly from the
battery using a relay, as do their aux. lights with PIAA wiring harnesses.
(About $80).

B. Will heat from 100/80W bulbs damage the lexan headlight covers? I don't
really think so, but would bum heavily if I melted 'em.

C. Should I mount the PIAA's directly to the bumper or postpone the project
until I get a grill guard or ($$$) a Safari Guard front bumper setup.

D. Figuiring out the pinouts of the factory switch. It is a lighted switch
and has five contacts, labeled 1-5. Pin 1,4,5 seem to be connected with
switch off, 1,2,4,5 connected with switch on. My GUESS as to the wiring from
this is:

 1: Power in: (from High Beam feed if I want circuit switched with High's)
 2: Power out: to aux. light relay
 3: Ground??
 4: Not used. Connected to 1.
 5: Not used. Connected to 1.

Switch then would only be used when I don't want my PIAA's go go on when
headlights and highbeams are on.

Anyone have a wiring diagram for a '96 Disco with factory fog's? Does the
wiring diagram have pin numbers on the fog light switch? Comments/Confirmation?

Anyone know alternator output of a '94 Disco? 460W/13V = 35 Amps of
headlights alone!

- Paul.

94 NAS Disco V8i Red, with Soon to be VERY bright headlights!

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Date: 22 Mar 96 14:30:27 EST
From: <Chris_Browne@us014-boston-minet.ccmail.compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Replacement halogen headlamps

     
     Hella has a technical help line that you can call. for $3 they will 
     even send you a complete product catalog. Lots of fun stuff to look at
     
     Their number is  tel 770 631 7500, which is a new area code in 
     Georgia.

        Chris Browne

     

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From: James C Brosious <brosious@pogo.den.mmc.com>
Subject: D90 Quirks
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 13:14:07 -0700 (MST)

Fellow D90 owners,
I have had my Defender for about 6 months now ... WOW what a rig!!  I
have a couple of questions that some of you might be able to answer:

The doors REFUSE to stay open by themselves.  When ever they are opened
they manage to close themselves unless I'm on a noticeable incline.  I
checked another D90 at the dealer and it did the same thing - open the
door, let go of it, and sure enough it closes itself with considerable
force.  IS this normal?  Does this bother anybody else?  Has anybody
come up with a fix?

There is a LARGE difference in the sound level between the front and
rear speakers, I have to have the fader set almost completely to the
front speakers before any sound comes out. I know, I know ... but I use
my Defender almost daily to commute to work, I would NEVER have the
stereo on while 4-wheeling about!  I have the stock (Premium?) Land
Rover unit.  Again, is this normal for the stereo?

Thanks for your time,
Chris B

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Date: 22 Mar 96 15:14:28 EST
From: <Chris_Browne@us014-boston-minet.ccmail.compuserve.com>
Subject: Re[2]: Lights

Paul asks
--------------
     
B. Will heat from 100/80W bulbs damage the lexan headlight covers? I don't 
really think so, but would bum heavily if I melted 'em.
>>>> Most of the wattage goes into extra heat. hmm do you mind trying for 
everyone? maybe we will drum up donations from people on the list if you have 
a meltdown (Hello, Land Rover Rescue? My headlights just melted.....)
     
C. Should I mount the PIAA's directly to the bumper or postpone the project 
until I get a grill guard or ($$$) a Safari Guard front bumper setup. 
>>>> I plan to mount aux lights directly on the bumper simply because I don't 
like the factory bull bars styling. 
Problem is the very small amount of room on the bumper. 
The mounting bracket of the light almost HAS to be directly underneath the 
rear most portion of the light if the light is to fit. Don't know about the 
PIAA but hella 3000 will not fit. 2000s are suspect and do not have much 
improvement in performance over the 1000 that will. the 1000 are available in 
55 and 85 watt versions, but 100w bulbs are ok. Just as soon as I get a spare 
hour or two I plan to measure up the 2000 before parting with cash. If the 
2000s will fit I'll go for them simply because they are a little larger in 
diameter and will look better on a car as big as the Disco

     D. the factory switch. -
     >> Does anyone on the list have a 96 disco with the fog lights and aux 
     light mounted on the bull bar- I want to know where the switch for the 
     aux (not fog)lights is located and the style/part number- I'd hate to 
     have two identical switches for different purposes. Yes I've already 
     promised myself that If I wreck the plastic armor under the bumper 
     that I'll buy the one with fog lights built in.
     
- Chris B
     
95 NAS Disco "The Red Baron" V8i  auto, 

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From: Jeff Gauvin <jeffg@minerva.ncrmicro.ncr.com>
Subject: RE: D90 Quirks
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 96 14:03:15 MST

James C Brosious has some questions:

: Fellow D90 owners,
: I have had my Defender for about 6 months now ... WOW what a rig!!  I
: have a couple of questions that some of you might be able to answer:

Congrats! You'll love it even more as time goes by.

: The doors REFUSE to stay open by themselves.  When ever they are opened
: they manage to close themselves unless I'm on a noticeable incline.  I
: checked another D90 at the dealer and it did the same thing - open the
: door, let go of it, and sure enough it closes itself with considerable
: force.  IS this normal?  Does this bother anybody else?  Has anybody
: come up with a fix?

You must have a '94.  Yes, it's kind of annoying, if not downright
hazardous (watch those legs and fingers!).  The fix is to get a '95.
But seriously, I have more than once considered changing to the '95
style door mechanism but the cost is likely prohibitive; I'd rather hold
the door open for my girlfriend (thus appearing a perfect gentleman) and
spend the money on a winch.  I wonder if a big spring placed around that
rod thingy would help?  (Sorry for the technical jargon.)

: There is a LARGE difference in the sound level between the front and
: rear speakers, I have to have the fader set almost completely to the
: front speakers before any sound comes out. I know, I know ... but I use
: my Defender almost daily to commute to work, I would NEVER have the
: stereo on while 4-wheeling about!  I have the stock (Premium?) Land
: Rover unit.  Again, is this normal for the stereo?

What, you can hear your stereo?  I always figured if it was loud enough
to hear while at highway speeds than it was probably causing serious
damage to my ears!

I think mine is the same way.  My un-scientific and un-proven hypothesis
is that the apparent level difference is an "audible illusion".  Your
ears are way off-axis with regard to the front speakers, which have to
compete with the engine to be heard.  The effects combine to make them
seem quieter.

FWIW - the stereo and speakers are made by Clarion.  Because the stereo
is mounted in the easily removable cubby, upgrading to a more powerful
unit should be trivial.  The speakers are rated 100W peak (if I recall
correctly).

--
Jeff "damn those doors!" Gauvin
'94 D90

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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 96 16:12:09 EST
From: rdl@NomuraNY.COM (Rob Legerio)
Subject: Re: D90 Quirks

> The doors REFUSE to stay open by themselves.  When ever they are opened
> they manage to close themselves unless I'm on a noticeable incline.  I
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> force.  IS this normal?  Does this bother anybody else?  Has anybody
> come up with a fix?

Yup, there supposed to do that. At least until the hinges start to get
a little rusty. Then, unless you lube em, they stay open in any
position.  I have read that the newest D90s have doors that
stay open all on their own. I use bungees cord between the door
handle pocket edges and the fender flares to hold the doors open
when I'm wrenching on the inside.

> There is a LARGE difference in the sound level between the front and
> rear speakers, I have to have the fader set almost completely to the
> front speakers before any sound comes out.

Yup, again.  I think it's more that the sound from the fronts gets
lost in the foot wells, so you actualy have to make them louder to
compensate. The whole system is underpowered given the noise levels
of the D90 anyway.  I do alot of long trips with my D90 and must
have tunes, so I trashed the whole setup for something with serious
power. It even sounds great when the top's down durring long summer
trips to far away places. Dynomat or something similar helps too.

Rob

P.S. - Finaly got around to putting together a .sig

=============================================================================
  _________  |        Robert D. Leggiero                    rdl@NomuraNY.Com
 |     | \ \ |        Nomura Securities International       (212) 667-1958
#|_____|__\]\|____    Two World Financial Center, 20th Fl.
#|"___ |-   | ___ |   New York, N.Y.  10281-1198
[|/ - \|____|/ - \|]
  ( o ) ---- ( o )    1994 Defender 90 (AA Yellow, #1894)
=============================================================================

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From: "Ruffer, Richard" <rufferr@moodys.com>
Subject: D90 Quirks
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 96 16:25:00 EST

Chris B asks:
>The doors REFUSE to stay open by themselves.

I have a 94 D90 with the same "trick" doors.  This was supposedly fixed on 
the 95s.  I've taken the door panel off to see if there is a quick fix (e.g. 
cutting a notch into a rail or something), but the set up is a little 
unusual, and I couldn't come up with a fix.  I'm not an engineering type, 
though, so maybe other folks could see a solution.  I've gotten used to the 
auto-close feature.  If you don't bother locking your doors much (I don't), 
its actually kind of nice--just step out and forget.

>There is a LARGE difference in the sound level between the front and
rear speakers

The same is true with mine.  When I have adjusted the fader, the front 
speakers sound tubby.  Oh what the heck, I'm usually singing louder than the 
music anyway.

Have Fun!
Rich Ruffer
Morristown, NJ
rruffer@interserv.com
rufferr@moodys.com

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Date: 22 Mar 1996 16:42:35 -0500
From: "Bill Skidmore" <skidmore@mitre.org>
Subject: Re: D90 Quirks

Congrats on the '90;

I've had mine for two years and >44000 miles, and I wouldn't trade it for =
anything (wellll, maybe an even trade for a '59 MB 300SL Coupe!).

After some extensive engineering and testing, LR has provided you with =
the door-closing capability.  Think how handy it is when you can't close =
the door yourself!

As for the speakers, although perhaps not even in sound, what you =
describe is abnormal.  Suggest a trip to the dealer is in order.

Bill Skidmore

 ------ From: James C Brosious, Fri, Mar 22, 1996 ------ 

Fellow D90 owners,
I have had my Defender for about 6 months now ... WOW what a rig!!  I
have a couple of questions that some of you might be able to answer:

The doors REFUSE to stay open by themselves.  When ever they are opened
they manage to close themselves unless I'm on a noticeable incline.  I
checked another D90 at the dealer and it did the same thing - open the
door, let go of it, and sure enough it closes itself with considerable
force.  IS this normal?  Does this bother anybody else?  Has anybody
come up with a fix?

There is a LARGE difference in the sound level between the front and
rear speakers, I have to have the fader set almost completely to the
front speakers before any sound comes out. I know, I know ... but I use
my Defender almost daily to commute to work, I would NEVER have the
stereo on while 4-wheeling about!  I have the stock (Premium?) Land
Rover unit.  Again, is this normal for the stereo?

Thanks for your time,
Chris B

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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 13:43:25 -0800
From: rlarson@lsil.com (Rick Larson)
Subject: RE: D90 Directionals

....
I went as far as getting the '95 parts.  Then I switched bumpers again.
Decided just to keep with the lower '94 parking lights wired as turn signals.
They blink to fast, but you get used to it.  To go to a '95 look you
need the '95 turnsignals themselves, left and right '95 plastic bezel
pieces and the willingness to make two 1" holes where the new lights will
go.  The plastic pieces will cover up the '94 holes.

Just another thing on the never ending list of details to get too....

-Rick

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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 13:46:21 -0800
From: rlarson@lsil.com (Rick Larson)
Subject: Re: Lights

I upgraded the beams to the Hella head lamp units.  55 watt high beams.
Thought
it was worth the effort.  Then I added 3 100W Hella 3000's.  Anyway no more
darkness problems.  The Hella head lamp units produce both brighter and whiter
light than stock.

-Rick

At 10:48 AM 3/22/96 -0500, Robert A. Virzi wrote:
>The >other< list is having a discussion relating to lighting.  I'm
>wondering if any recent coil sprung owners have modified their lights.
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 18 lines)]
>  rvirzi@gte.com             Think Globally. ===
>  +1(617)466-2881                            === Act Locally!

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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 13:51:22 -0800
From: rlarson@lsil.com (Rick Larson)
Subject: Re: D90 Quirks

At  1:14 PM 3/22/96 -0700, James C Brosious wrote:
>Fellow D90 owners,
>I have had my Defender for about 6 months now ... WOW what a rig!!  I
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 20 lines)]
>Thanks for your time,
>Chris B

My '94 has exactly the same quirks.  The door is thing is really annoying
when you get it 4 or so feet up in the air.  (Climbing steep embankments.)
Very hard to keep the door open and climb in. :(

-Rick

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From: "Robert Watson (CNA)" <a-robw@MICROSOFT.com>
Subject: RE: Lights
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 14:33:57 -0800

>Yes, that's right, I'm wiring the "fog" lights to high beams. If anyone
>is
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
>straights, Fogs are geat for illuminating curves, but when aimed up a
>little, are completely blinding to oncoming traffic.
I can vouch for that. I put 2 55w driving lights on the brush bar that
have a beam somewhere between a pencil and a fog light that I use in
addition to high beams (powered by their own circuit off the battery,
via a relay controlled by the high-beam). This works fine on the hi-way
and "normal" driving. For off-road, I put a light bar on top of the
Disco w/ 2 more 55 w driving lights (angled away from the center) with 2
100 w pencil beams in the middle.  At night, out in the dark boonies,
that's almost TOO much light since now, the road is SO brightly lit that
I can't see around corners nor off to the side any longer (Night vision
goes the moment the lights are switched on).

I know, you're saying "just put more lights on!" But with all these on,
the lights (all of them) alone are drawing 50 amps. Rather, I think I
might replace the pencils with 2 more driving lights and then perhaps,
put some lights on the end of the light bar that face side ways ("alley
lights" as they are called by the police). If they are all 55 w, I can
put 4 lights in place of the 2 100 watt lights I currently have without
adding much to the electrical load.
>Anyone know alternator output of a '94 Disco? 460W/13V = 35 Amps of
>headlights alone!
>considering buying a high wattage aux. light, I would stongly recommend
I asked the dealer and they said that the 95 had a 100amp alternator,
which happens to match the Alternator fuse in the box under the hood.

Happy illumination!
    _____
   /|__|_\__(|                           Bob Watson
  |   |   |  \                 a-robw@microsoft.com
  |---|___|___\____      Mountlake Terrace, WA, USA 
  |  _|=  |=  |o_  }\                
 [|_/_ \__|___|/_\_}|    '95 Beluga Black Discovery
    \_/        \_/                            N7UMU

>Anyone know alternator output of a '94 Disco? 460W/13V = 35 Amps of
>headlights alone!

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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 15:15:36 -0700
From: Paul Orland <paulor@chs.com>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Lights

At 03:14 PM 3/22/96 EST,
Chris_Browne@us014-boston-minet.ccmail.compuserve.com wrote:
>B. Will heat from 100/80W bulbs damage the lexan headlight covers? I don't 
>really think so, but would bum heavily if I melted 'em.
>>>>> Most of the wattage goes into extra heat. hmm do you mind trying for 
>everyone? 

I'll be the guinea pig and *probably* tell y'all if my wiring harness or
lexan covers have a meltdown.

- Paul.

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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 15:10:54 -0700
From: Paul Orland <paulor@chs.com>
Subject: Re: Replacement halogen headlamps

... PIAA also has an extremely helpfull customer service organization at
503/643-7422 (PST) and will probably send a catalog out for free if you ask
real nice...

- Paul.

At 02:30 PM 3/22/96 EST,
Chris_Browne@us014-boston-minet.ccmail.compuserve.com wrote:
>     Hella has a technical help line that you can call. for $3 they will 
>     even send you a complete product catalog. Lots of fun stuff to look at

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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 17:09:27 -0600
From: Scott Fugate <sfugate@conc.tdsnet.com>
Subject: 89 RR Query

On my 89 RR the passenger side front door lock does not actuate the other
locks.  Is it supposed to?  The driver's side works fine.  I really can't
tell from my wiring diagrams if the passenger side is supposed to have a
switch.  Can any '89 owners say for sure?  Anybody have experience working
on the lock switches?

I've got a mystery leak in the right rear corner of the vehicle, too.  I
have no idea where the water is coming from.  I can only tell when its wet
because the thing starts smelling funky after its been closed up overnight.
The carpet stays dry, but the "carpet padding" stuff on the underside of the
rubber mat was sopping the first time I discovered the leak.  Had to take
everything out and let it air dry for a few days.  A week or so ago, I found
that the mat was wet only directly below where the jack and tool kit is
stored.  I was able to dry that out by holding that corner of the right mat
up with the jack.  Anybody else experience anything like this?  She Who Must
Be Obeyed drives the RR most of the time, so I don't have close observation
as to what level of rain causes the leak, etc.   Leaks in the 88 I can
handle.  The RR ought to be dry.

Thanks,

Scott Fugate
1970 IIa 88
1989 RR

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Date: Wed, 20 Mar 96 20:23:26 UT
From: "Mark Talbot" <Land_Rover@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Warn winches for 90/110 RR and Disco

John, 

You LOVE that winch don't you ????? I did forget about your option, which of 
course is a viable solution, and your article helps anyone wishing to install 
a "discreet" mounted winch.  

Mark

----------
From:  John Brabyn
Sent:  Wednesday, March 20, 1996 2:32 PM
Cc:  Mark Talbot; Range Rover list
Subject:  Re: Warn winches for 90/110 RR and Disco

Another even lower cost option is the equivalent Ramsey winch which is 
often on sale for $400 at such places as Leon Rosser Jeep where I got 
mine. (the REP 8000 model). It also uses less juice.

Cheers

John Brabyn
89RR

On Wed, 20 Mar 1996, David Rosenbaum wrote:

> On Wed, 20 Mar 1996, Mark Talbot wrote:
> (snip) 
> > If anyone out there is looking to add a winch to their vehicle. Check out 

the 
> > warn M8000 winch. Its a low profile winch, recommended by LR.
> > ...... 4 Wheel parts wholesalers sellers them for the great price of 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 17 lines)]
> mounting bracket, etc. and the Warn winch accessory package) - and I'm 
> still making payments.............

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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 16:20:54 -0700 (MST)
From: Tebbin Salvesen <tsalves@slcpl.slcpl.lib.ut.us>
Subject: Re: 89 RR Query

On Fri, 22 Mar 1996, Scott Fugate wrote:
this is correct only the drivers door actuates all locks
> On my 89 RR the passenger side front door lock does not actuate the other
> locks.  Is it supposed to?  The driver's side works fine.  I really can't
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 24 lines)]
> Scott Fugate
> 1970 IIa 88
> 1989 RR

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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 18:54:12 -0800
From: Keith Morehouse-WB9TIY <blckhole@ripco.com>
Subject: EEC / Fuel Injection sensors

I've been having an off-list discussion about altitude compensation by 
electronics engine controllers and fuel injection systems.  It's in 
regard to whether the current EEC in '95/'96 Disco's AUTOMATICALLY 
adjusts for altitude.

Can anyone tell me if the current year Disco engine's fuel injection 
airflow sensor measures intake air VELOCITY -or- MASS ??

While we are at it, exactly WHAT MAKE and MODEL fuel injection system is 
used by late model Disco's (IE Bosch Motronic, Lucas, ect...).

Thanks ! Replies to the list are probably preferred as the answer will 
have bearing on the thread concerning loss of performance at high 
altitude.

---------------------------###-----------------------------
PROBE ELECTRONICS 100 Higgins Road, Park Ridge IL 60068 USA
Keith J. Morehouse / WB9TIY / Society of Midwest Contesters
847-696-2828  FAX: 847-698-2045  e-mail: blckhole@ripco.com
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Date: Sat, 23 Mar 96 01:01:00 UT
From: "Mark Talbot" <Land_Rover@msn.com>
Subject: Winch WWW

All, 

Those that are interested. WWW.SUPERWINCH.COM. Has everything you need to know 
about Superwinch products

Mark

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