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2 PurnellJE@aol.com 40Re: D90 Service Report/Lucas and OBDII...run fer the hills!
3 Michael Carradine [cs@cr30LROA Meeting 3/31/96
4 Michael Carradine [cs@cr58Re: LROA Meeting 3/31/96
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From: JEPurnell@aol.com
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 10:51:29 -0500
Subject: Canadian Air Pollution Web Site

I found this web site from a search on "auto emissions" and it is for
Canada's program like AirCare, and the like.  Also:  vehicle scrappage!

http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/~cvf/policy.html

John P.

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From: PurnellJE@aol.com
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 10:52:30 -0500
Subject: Re: D90 Service Report/Lucas and OBDII...run fer the hills!

In a message dated 96-03-29 19:10:29 EST, you write:

>Please excuse my ignorance (like I not ignorant already!), but on the
>94'D90, what are the specifice problems with the Lucas components?
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>Happy Trails!,
>Doug Marbourg

Well, germaine to the OBDII issue:  None.  Becasue neither 94s nor 95s have
OBDII.  They have OBDI, which is why we have that cute little box on teh
right side of the dash that looks like a cigarette box (thanks to Rob L. for
educating me on this point) that has an LED display on it that tells you what
fault code # is present if your yellow check engine light is on.  OBDI is a
far less complex system than this next generation, and mainly consists of
circuit continuity checks and HIGH/LOW voltage checks  on key components,
like idle control valves.  Not too dificult, even Lucas managed that one.
(ooohhhh, I'm sorry about that one, it just slipped out...)

But really, the most serious problem I remember on this list, has been Rob's
relay and no start issue.  And that turned out not to be Lucas ECU problem,
but a wet/corroded relay? I believe I remember that correctly.  So, it seems
that Lucas might be OK here, other than the rather light-duty nature of
headlight switches and the concern over harness wiring guage size.  (I've
read email that D90 headlight switches burn, or fall apart. And everyone
seems concerned about adding an electrical load to the pre existing harness,
seems most use relays.)  

In fact, that is what I love about the Defender, it is so relatively simple,
that good automotive sense will keep you running, barring any obvious
component failure.  The electronics are pretty minimal and basic.  OBDII will
crank this up a notch, to the dismay of some, and the happiness of others. 

John.
94D90

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Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 08:17:50 -0800
From: Michael Carradine <cs@crl.com>
Subject: LROA Meeting 3/31/96

 LROA Members,

 This Sunday's meeting, March 31, 1996 at 11 AM will be at Cole European,
 the Land Rover dealership at 2103 North Main Street in Walnut Creek.  The
 plan is to rally there and move on to a coffee shop in the neighborhood
 or elsewhere, depending on the number of members that show.

 On the agenda is the offer and review of a Business Plan and the LROA
 Organizational Outline for the Bylaws.  Both of these draft documents are
 on a Web page at http://www.crl.com/~cs/lroa.html for your review and
 comment.  For various reasons, the Bylaws Committee has concluded that
 LROA nonprofit incorporation in Nevada is the most practical and expedient
 venue for the time being, and hopes that at least this portion of the
 Business Plan will be adopted.

 We hope to see you there,

 Michael Carradine
 VP pro tem LROA

 510-988-0900
 cs@crl.com
 

 

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Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 09:56:26 -0800
From: Michael Carradine <cs@crl.com>
Subject: Re: LROA Meeting 3/31/96

At 07:58 AM 3/30/96 -0800, TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@scruznet.com> wrote:
:: This Sunday's meeting, March 31, 1996 at 11 AM will be at Cole European,
:: the Land Rover dealership at 2103 North Main Street in Walnut Creek. ....
:
:Dumb question time.
:Any reason you sent this announcement to just the west coast list and not
:to the main land Rover AND the main range Rover/Discovery mail lists????
:With the proposed wording on an HTML site you can ask for comments from the
:wired portion of the membership.
:
:Also, can we adapt something with a very small manority vote?????
:Just wondering since this is supposed to be a national org.

 
 Good points!

 So far the new officers have essentially been charged with the responsibilty
 of maintaining and reorganizing the new LROA.  In several meetings the
 consensus was to direct the Bylaw Committee to incorporate the LROA and
 provide a structure for all members to participate in LROA activities.  To
 expedite this and get the LROA back into the "LR's are fun" business, we
 recommend nonprofit Nevada incorporation at this time.

 To codify and improve the organizational structure of the existing LROA, a
 draft outline for Bylaws has been prepared based in part on the model of
 the California Association of 4-WD Clubs Inc. (CA4WD).  CA4WD and LROA are
 associations of clubs with regional divisions.  In short, the LROA draft
 Organizational Outline for Bylaws proposes that members form numerous local
 clubs, each having a minumum of 4 members.  These clubs are then organized
 regionally to to hold rallies and events across the continent.  We believe
 that members will have their most meaningful enjoyment of Land Rovers and
 comraderie at at the club and regional level, that's where all the fun is,
 while still being part of a great continental association with its many
 benefits.

 Taking the reorganization process step by step, the draft documents will
 initially be reviewed by the officers and local members, as well those on
 the net, and then put forward in the Aluminum Workhorse.  Suggestions and
 comments will then be integrated into final Bylaws and voted on by the
 membership.  The evolution and adoption of Bylaws is time consuming, and
 can proceed quite independently of incorporation.  In the mean time, many
 of us are anxious to have our LROA involved in activities again, and for
 that we hope to incorporate now.  Soon thereafter we hope to have Bylaws
 adopted and to test the election process by voting for regional and
 continental offices.

 Cheers,

 Michael Carradine
 VP pro tem LROA

 510-988-0900 PH/Fax
 cs@crl.com 

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