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From: "Robert Watson (CNA)" <a-robw@MICROSOFT.com>
Subject: FW: Winching with a Hi-Lift
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 10:02:47 -0700
>details:
>This Sunday the weather was nice and I'd been meaning to do this for a
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> [|_/_ \__|___|/_\_}| '95 Beluga Black Discovery
> \_/ \_/ N7UMU
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From: Mark.Kraieski@mailport.delta-air.com
Date: 8 Apr 96 13:11:35 -0400
Subject: Update: PowerTrax " Command Locker"
I had posted about 2 months ago that PowerTrax, the company that makes
Lock-Right and Performance Locker locking differentials, would be
introducing a switch selectable locker based on electromechanical means
rather than air pneumatic (ala ARB). The information was originally reported
in 4 Wheel & Off Road. I placed a call to PowerTrax today (714/545-7400) to
get an update. Looks like the patent process is taking longer than expected
and they are still "6 to 9 months" from shipping. It is unclear when the
Land Rover / Range Rover version will be available.
Mark
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 11:26:32 -0600
From: marbourg@lanl.gov (Douglas C. Marbourg)
Subject: Re: Tricked-out Defender
>Sorry to keep pestering you with questions, but I have another. Were these
>4.7:1's still on their origonal carriers, or were they moved to the Defender
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>94 D-90 #730
>67 NADA 109
Jim,
Don't worry about pestering me, it gives me something to do at work! :^) My
LR mechaninc thats been supplying me with info is off today, so stay tuned
until tomorrow. If anyone else is serious in a D90 gear swap let me know,
maybe we can get a "bulk" price discount. More later.
Happy Trails,
Doug Marbourg, 94' NAS D90 #1123, Santa Fe, NM
marbourg@lanl.gov
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From: "Robert Watson (CNA)" <a-robw@MICROSOFT.com>
Subject: Rover wins the Florida Safari Triathalon
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 13:21:49 -0700
http://www.4x44u.com/pub/k2/live/safaritriathlon/sflt13.htm
profiles the winning team/vehicle of the Florida Safari Triathalon that
was run 2 weekends ago.
to the winning team, If you're out there, congratulations!
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/|__|_\__(| Bob Watson
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|---|___|___\____ Mountlake Terrace, WA, USA
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[|_/_ \__|___|/_\_}| '95 Beluga Black Discovery
\_/ \_/ N7UMU
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 16:42:34 -0500
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Camel Trophy Update
>To: lro@Land-Rover.Team.Net
>From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
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>X-Attachments:
>April 4 - An unusual day. The US team departed the capmsite with a full
night's rest, and the participants enthuiasm was bolstered even further by a
rarity on the Camel Trophy: a shower. The canvoy stopped briefly at a
town's water tower.
>Progress for the proposed 124 km this day was slow at the start, as one
>From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
after another vehicle had to be winched out. However, with no rain and the
temperature rising quickly past the 100 degree mark, the red clay roads soon
dried out. In contrast to the past few days, there were no major river
crossings, and no bridges to repair.
>For both the Swiss and US team, the day's highlight did not involve
>From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
driving, but rather an unexpected visit to Dyak longhouse. Functioning as
the convoy's "sweep", they stopped at a village and were invited to visit
with a local family. As one of the Swiss journalists spoke a bit of
Indonesian and the group was able to sample local cuisine and were impressed
by their hospitality.
>Things would get much tougher on Friday with the uncharted drive to Tumbang
>From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Samba.
>April 6 - Uncharted Territory. Five days into the event, the convoy is
>From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
still on schedule, for now. However, the rains returned and the route ahead
has only been scouted from the air. Once again, vehicles began to slide and
skate, and before long, another collapsed bridge was encountered. Ken
Cameron's exceptional skill with a chain saw was evident, as the American
team lead the reconstruction of this bridge, and in just five hours, all 38
vehicles were across.
>Progress was rahter short-lived, as another washed-out bridge was
>From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
discovered just 2 km down the road. Deemed beyond repair, the teams were
forced to drive down into the river and winch themselves up the 45 degree
bank on the other side. Participants worked through the night and it was 5
AM before all were across. Some members took the opportunity of the delay
to bathe in the river, though reports of a large snake swimming nearby kept
most out.
>Progress was rahter short-lived, as another washed-out bridge was
*----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
| A. P. (Sandy) Grice |
| Rover Owners' Association of Virginia |
| 1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730 |
| E-mail: rover@pinn.net Phone: 804-622-7054 (Day) |
| 804-423-4898 (Evenings) FAX: 804-622-7056 |
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 16:42:39 -0500
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Camel Trophy Update
>To: lro@Land-Rover.Team.Net
>From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
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>X-Attachments:
>April 6 - With only about two hour's sleep, the US team again found
themselves in the recce unit, teamed up with South Africa, Greece, Russia
and the Canary islands. The first major obstacle was a washed-out bridge
that was beyond repair. Bypassing it by driving down into the river and
winching up the other side, the recce team continued onward, while the
reaminder of the convoy reamined behind until everyone could be winched across.
>The scout group repaired several more bridges before arriving at Sungai
>From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Barito, a major river crossing and bridge of 30 meters. TUnfortunately, the
bridge had been destroyed less than a week earlier by floods. Though the
team worked for several hours to get a vehicle across, it was deemed futile,
and it was decided to detour 3 km upstream and call in the raft unit.
>Meanwhile, back at the bridge bypass, things were going from bad to worse.
>From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
A severe thunderstorm destroyed the vehicles' exit route from the river and
mud flows were making the crossing almost impossible. Work will continue
through the night to catch up with the lead units at the rafting point.
>Meanwhile, back at the bridge bypass, things were going from bad to worse.
*----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
| A. P. (Sandy) Grice |
| Rover Owners' Association of Virginia |
| 1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730 |
| E-mail: rover@pinn.net Phone: 804-622-7054 (Day) |
| 804-423-4898 (Evenings) FAX: 804-622-7056 |
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:08:08 -0700
From: matts@cacilj.caciasl.com (Matt Snyder)
Subject: Four Wheeler Top 10
Does anyone know whether a ballot with less choices would be counted?
-Matt
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From: "Tom Walsh" <tomw@netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:08:38 +0000
Subject: Re: Four Wheeler Top 10
It seemed like they were sticklers about doing the right thing!
but who knows?
Tomw
> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:08:08 -0700
> To: rro@playground.sun.com
> From: matts@cacilj.caciasl.com (Matt Snyder)
> Subject: Four Wheeler Top 10
> Does anyone know whether a ballot with less choices would be counted?
> -Matt
> From: matts@cacilj.caciasl.com (Matt Snyder)
> Subject: Four Wheeler Top 10
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Tom Walsh
tomw@netcom.com soon to be tomw@fluentnet.com
95 LR Disco "The Green Monster"
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 96 13:41:02 EST
From: James Carley <carley@manly.civeng.unsw.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Swivel Seals on Range Rover
At 18:01 29/03/96 EST, Mike wrote:
> Over the next few weeks I plan on replacing the swivel seals and hub
> seals on my 87 RR. I've done hub seals before but have never ventured
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> the impact type - am I likely to damage the ball joints when
> disconnecting them?
In the past I've had RRO get upset at me giving advice on the basis that
my 110 is basically the same. I've recently done a front overhaul on my
'85 110 though, so here are my recollections. As far as I know, the only
difference is that a 110 uses swivel pins for the top swivel pivot (with
a tapered roller bearing at bottom), whereas RR has bearings top & bottom.
Apologies if there are any other major differences.
There are 3 tie rod ends (ball joints) to be removed. Two of mine came free,
(& undamaged)by the following procedure:
Remove the split cotter pin, remove the castellated nut and put it on backwards
(the castellated side first). Screw it on far enough so that the clean nut
face just protects the ball joint thread, and hit the NUT with a hammer.
The more troublesome third one came free after a small 2 jawed gear puller
(2 inch/ 50 mm) was used to stress the joint, then a hammer tap to the shaft
of the puller.
I did the spring balance preload check on the hub before fully dismantling
and the first one I did was very notchy. After dismantling the hub I
found that the lower swivel bearing race on one side had been pounded out
by the rollers, so be prepared for replacing these. Interestingly,
the straight ahead steering stability was worse after this overhaul,
presumably the corrugations in the bearing race kept the wheel pointed
straight.
My overhaul was 'cause the the hub was leaking oil onto the inside of the
brake disc. Obviously I did all the seals. The one inside the stub
axle is supposed to keep the swivel housing oil in, but if it gets past
this into the wheel bearings there is another seal which rides on the
outside of the stub axle. The seal track on my stub axle was a little
scored so I put a "speedie sleeve" on it, since this is the critical
seal for keeping oil off the disc. Ask at a bearing store about
"speedie sleeves" if not familiar.
My final advice is that there are a lot of (often tight) bolts to remove,
which have a lot of travel, so I rigged up a 1/2" square drive to round
transition drive piece so that I could drive my sockets (after initial
loosening/ prior to torque wrenching) with a cordless drill.
There's always more I could write about, ask if you have further questions.
Regards
James Carley
Water Research Laboratory
University of New South Wales
Sydney, Australia
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 96 7:11:26 -0400
From: "barnett childress" <barnett=childress%Eng%EMCHOP1@fishbowl02.lss.emc.com>
Subject: re:kudos Barnett/bounced mail
Thanks to Jim Pappas for trying to help "clear my name" in the eyes of my
other LRO's!
S*** does happen! After all these are only machines we use to communicate
with each other, and unfortunately once and a while they are going to
malfunction.
This was not a prank, nor was it a fault on my part as was suggested by
some previous messages. I read and delete my mail daily as I said before.
Again...my apologies to *ALL* for the trashed mail boxes, lost work,
inconvenience and frustration that this episode has caused.
I guess I better buy a lot of beer to hand out to those of you I finally
get to meet at some of the upcoming LR events :>}
Forgiven?
Barnett
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 06:22:11 -0600
From: Mark Murphy <Mark.Murphy@evolving.com>
Subject: Returned mail: Remote protocol error
1995 white 5spd Discovery
full synthetic oil in everything but the engine (semi synthetic)
10 mile round trip to work, non-highway and minimal traffic due
to the early morning schedule
weekly average of 75-100 miles
gas: Vickers/Total premium 91 octane
Denver, Colorado - altitude: 5280 feet above sea level
best gas milage: 20 mpg from Medicine Bow, Wyoming to Denver,
Colorado at 75 mph with cruise control
AMSOIL air filter was added after the fillup on 01/19/95 and based
on the numbers, haven't seen much of a difference. However, at $40,
it is as good as the stock air filter and is re-usable. I am curious
about the K&N air filter but not sure I am $85 curious for the
Porsche filter that "should" fit the Discovery. Has anyone got any
real numbers for the K&N for a Discovery? Anyone know if K&N has any
plans to make a Discovery air filter?
Well, here are my numbers:
Date odometer mpg gallons
------- ---------- ------- ---------
07/30 235.5 18.83 12.509
08/05 439.3 17.89 11.389
08/05 604.1 20.87 7.898
08/15 14.099
08/17 839.5 14.13 2.557
08/18 939.9 16.39 6.124
08/19 1080.2 15.31 9.165
08/24 1325.1 15.13 16.178
09/06 1544.5 14.15 15.503
09/09 1770.7 17.51 12.916
09/10 2000.1 14.52 15.800
09/14 2301.8 17.35 17.388
09/22 2453.7 15.26 10.153
10.04 2659.5 15.15 13.581
10/12 2844.2 15.92 11.600
10/19 3036.6 16.64 11.563
10/26 3221.8 13.80 13.418
11/05 3377.7 15.08 10.335
11/17 3575.6 14.095
11/25 3838.9 14.297
11/30 3884.9 15.07 5.275
12/08 4116.5 14.129
12/16 4238.1 14.89 9.584
12/21 4381.4 15.10 9.489
12/30 4609.6 14.683
01/08 4793.2 13.899
01/19 4948.8 14.06 11.773
AMSOIL air filter
02/01 5162.4 13.49 15.839
02/11 5298.7 15.10 9.029
02/22 5442.0 10.724
03/30 5631.2 13.82 13.340
03/14 5876.7 13.80 17.796
03/20 6069.5 15.21 12.676
03/29 6213.3 14.18 10.142
Mark Murphy
mmurphy@evolving.com
1995 white 5spd Discovery
Denver, Colorado USA
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 07:22:24 -0600 (MDT)
From: Dan McDonough <mcdan@Rt66.com>
Subject: re:kudos Barnett/bounced mail
> Forgiven?
> Barnett
Yes, you are forgiven.
However, read your Rover manual before making a sacrifice to Lucas.
As you can see, one wrong move in the incantation and not only will
he strike at your electronics, but he will also strike at other
Land Rover Owners.
Daniel (Just Glad It Wasn't Me) McDonough
mcdan@rt66.com
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