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msg	Sender	lines	Subject
1	marbourg@lanl.gov (Dougl	20	Re: Four Wheeler Top 10
2	RICHARD_COLEMAN@fmso.nav	18	replacement shocks
3	"barnett childress" [bar	291	FYI: Returned mail: Remote protocol error
4	marbourg@lanl.gov (Dougl	23	Re: replacement shocks
5	Robert Ferguson [rifergu	28	NAS D110 for sale
6	Tebbin Salvesen [tsalves	23	Re: replacement shocks
7	[Chris_Browne@us014-bost	21	Barnett Childress
8	rdl@NomuraNY.COM (Rob Le	24	Re: replacement shocks
9	debrown@srp.gov	32	CB antenna location for a Range Rover
10	William Owen [IB011CA@sm	24	90 RR Purchase advice
11	Benjamin Allan Smith [be	36	[not specified]
12	Antonios Hadjigeorgali [	23	Maintenance for OffRoading
13	Modern@learnlink.emory.e	19	Re: CB antenna location for a Range Rover
14	apollard@arinc.com	53	CB antenna location for a Range Rover
15	PZavaletta@aol.com	17	Summer Rally Info
16	"John B. Friedman" [joha	6	what happened to Hank at this address hlapa@Zeus.signalcorp.com
17	RICHARD_COLEMAN@fmso.nav	15	replacement shocks
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 08:18:43 -0600
From: marbourg@lanl.gov (Douglas C. Marbourg)
Subject: Re: Four Wheeler Top 10

Matt,

No I don't.  I had the same problem filling out my ballot to.  I ended up
just randomly picking vechicles I "liked" the most. Like the Camero SS
mounted on the J**P frame.  :^)

>-Matt

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>-Matt
Happy Trails!

Doug Marbourg, 94' NAS D90 #1123 Santa Fe, NM
marbourg@lanl.gov

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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:29:07 -0400
From: RICHARD_COLEMAN@fmso.navy.mil (RICHARD COLEMAN)
Subject: replacement shocks

         CSOers,

            The rotors and pads have been replaced all
         around on 'the money pit'(90 RR). I guess the
         shocks are next. I'm open to suggestions. I'm
         leaning toward Bilstein gas shocks but what do I
         know. Anxiously awaiting your comments. FWIW, Monro
         muffler has their shocks priced at over $100 ea.
         Too high IMHO.

                             Thanks,
                                 Rick
                                 90 RR

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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 08:19:08 -0700
From: "barnett childress" <barnett=childress%Eng%EMCHOP1@fishbowl02.lss.emc.com>
Subject: FYI: Returned mail: Remote protocol error

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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 09:21:28 -0600
From: marbourg@lanl.gov (Douglas C. Marbourg)
Subject: Re: replacement shocks

>         CSOers,
>            The rotors and pads have been replaced all
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>                             Thanks,
>                                 Rick
>                                 90 RR

Rick,

Have you looked into OME (Old Man Emu) suspension systems.  I don't know if
they will work for a RR, but they are excellent in quality and price.  I
spent about $500, with shipping, for shocks and springs from Bill Burke's 4
Wheelin America. Plus, you can get a variety of spring rates for your needs
(ie. large payload, winch etc.).  Good luck!
Happy Trails!

Doug Marbourg, 94' NAS D90 #1123 Santa Fe, NM
marbourg@lanl.gov

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From: Robert Ferguson <riferguson@asymptote.com>
Subject: NAS D110 for sale
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 08:38:04 -0700

Having just joined this list, simultaneous with acquiring up my new =
Discovery, I'm unsure of the protocol regarding "for sale" ads. However, =
it seems like people would want to know:

Someone just traded in a NAS D110 to Land Rover Seattle (for an Disco =
SE7. Go figure). I've wandered through it, and it appears in excellent =
condition, with low mileage (approx. 40k; I don't recall the exact =
number right now). Judging from the wear and tear, I'd say it hasn't =
ever been seriously driven off-road - as someone at the dealership said =
to me, it appears that the farthest off the road it's been is on the =
curb at Nordstrom's.

At any rate, they're selling it for $49,500, and the price appears to be =
firm. Their number is (206) 682-9205; ask for Bruce Leon.

I'm rather glad that it wasn't on the lot when I was looking, or I might =
have been sorely tempted to spend a lot more money than I could possibly =
afford.

Cheers,
Rob Ferguson
riferguson@asymptote.com

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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:20:54 -0600 (MDT)
From: Tebbin Salvesen <tsalves@slcpl.slcpl.lib.ut.us>
Subject: Re: replacement shocks

On Tue, 9 Apr 1996, RICHARD COLEMAN wrote:
I just replaced my RR shocks with bilsteins which replaced the rancho
junkos that replaced the original-ranchos lasted about 2 weeks -- I have a
complete set of ranchos that you can have if you want them---of course
they are completely collapsed but hey. Anyway the bilsteins have been good
but I did have to replace one that sprang a leak and lost all its oil!
British atlantic had no problem shipping me a new one free and waiting
till I replaced it and sent the old one back!
good luck!!
T.S.
87 EYS edition

>          CSOers,
>             The rotors and pads have been replaced all
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 13 lines)]
>                              Thanks,
>                                  Rick
>                                  90 RR

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Date: 09 Apr 96 13:56:26 EDT
From: <Chris_Browne@us014-boston-minet.ccmail.compuserve.com>
Subject: Barnett Childress 

     Barnett and I talked am today he has checked with his MIS people and 
     the there is no problem at his company's computer. Noone else in his 
     company has had any internal or external mail problems therefore the 
     problem is at the Majors computer. Something wacky was happening with 
     the daemon list. other peoples names (eg eric.peterson@ebay.sun.com) 
     also appear as protocol rejections).
     
     Barnett is not willing to put up with the unneeded flames from a few 
     people on the mailing lists, and has opted to unsubscribe until he can 
     be assured by the Major that the problem is solved.
     
     If Bill C could email me when he thinks the problems are solved, I'll 
     let Barnett know and he'll try again
     
     Thank you
     Chris Browne

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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 96 14:05:52 EDT
From: rdl@NomuraNY.COM (Rob Legerio)
Subject: Re: replacement shocks

> I just replaced my RR shocks with bilsteins which replaced the rancho
> junkos that replaced the original-ranchos lasted about 2 weeks -- I have a
> complete set of ranchos that you can have if you want them---of course

What kind of Ranchos were they? Everyone I know who has Ranchos on
thier trucks raves about them. Especialy those with RS9000s and the
in-cab adjustment controls.  Are you sure you were given the correct
replacement shocks for your rig?

Rob

=============================================================================
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 |     | \ \ |        Nomura Securities International       (212) 667-1958
#|_____|__\]\|____    Two World Financial Center, 20th Fl.
#|"___ |-   | ___ |   New York, N.Y.  10281-1198
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From: debrown@srp.gov
Date: 09 Apr 96 12:43:49 MST
Subject: CB antenna location for a Range Rover

FROM:  David Brown                           Internet: debrown@srp.gov
       Computer Graphics Specialist * Mapping Services & Engr Graphics
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
Greetings all,

I finally got a CB radio! Now, I need to find an antenna and a place to
put it! Obviously, center of the roof is the ideal location
functionally, but I'm looking for suggestions....

I don't really mind (too much) drilling holes in the Range Rover, but I
hesitate to use center of the roof due to potential trail damage. Also,
will an aluminum roof still make a good ground plane? And, I'm concerned
that if (when!) I hit a branch with a roof mounted antenna, will it
damage the aluminum roof?

I tried a magnet mount on the hood, but I get too much interference from
the engine. I can't use it on the roof, since the roof is aluminum.

Please advise me on your opinions. What do you Range Rover owners do?

Thanks a bunch!!

#=======#         _________           We make a living by what we get,
|__|__|__\___    //__/__|__\___        we make a life by what we give.
| _|  |   |_ |}  \__/-\_|__/-\_|}
"(_)""""""(_)"      (_)    (_)                       Winston Churchill

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Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 09:28:14 -0600
From: William Owen <IB011CA@smtpaoc.tsc.state.tn.us>
Subject:  90 RR Purchase advice

I may have finally found a RR.  Its a 90 County, 90,000 mi., brown,
sunroof, CD, new PS Box, decent tires.  Asking $15,900.  Its at another
LR dealer over three hours from here.  It sounds in fairly good shape
from our phone conversation, but I need to see it to be sure.  One or
two door dings, one piece of wood on console is scratched(cracked
slightly?), Sunroof needs to be (and will be) fixed.  

Edmonds price service on the WWW seems to indicate this is a good
price, but I would love to hear the RRO list  thoughts.  I would rather buy
a Rover locally and I can wait even a few more months, but if this is a
real good deal then I'm willing to drive.  I will probably go see it tomorrow
if I decide its worth the trip.

Also, Is anyone in N. Alabama familiar with this RR?

So what do you think?

Thanks in advance, 
William

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Subject: Land Rover Trip: Saline Valley (California) in May 
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 14:27:13 -0700
From: Benjamin Allan Smith <bens@archimedes.vislab.navy.mil>

	(I'm posting this because Jeff doesn't have any access to the Internet)
	(Actually it's a repost because it took 7 days to bounce)

	The Saline Valley is located one Valley to the east of Owens
Valley.  The plan is to base camp at the hot springs in Saline Valley and
explore the surrounding area.  This is the desert in the late spring so the
temps may be in the 90s.    There is not definite plan.  Come for a day or
four.  The base came should be findable.

Date: 4-8 May 1996
Facilites: None (there might be outhouses, but I don't know).  Bring drinking
           water (about a gallon per person per day)
Contact:  Jeff Stitt, 230 North Mountain View, Yerington, NV 89447
                      (702)-463-2011
                      Email: none.

	Jeff is planning on leaving Big Pine at noon on the 4th.  If other
Rovers are there, he'll lead the convoy.  Otherwise you are on you own.  If
interested, contact Jeff or myself for directions.

	Oh, and the Saline Hot Springs are "Clothing optional."  So if naked
people wandering around bothers you, you were warned.

Ben
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Benjamin Smith------------bens@vislab.navy.mil---------1972 Land Rover SIII 88
 Science Applications International Corporation
 Naval Air Warfare Center, Weapons Division, China Lake

"...If I were running such a contest, I would specifically eliminate any entries
 from Ben involving driving the [Land] Rover anywhere.  He'd drive it up the
 Amazon basin for a half can of Jolt and a stale cookie..."  --Kevin Archie

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Date: 09 Apr 96 17:41:33 EDT
From: Antonios Hadjigeorgali <75051.2034@compuserve.com>
Subject: Maintenance for OffRoading

Hi All,

I purchased a 94' Defender 90 two weeks ago and finally got it off road over
easter sunday.  What a blast!!  I live in Baltimore and most of the nearby sites
to offroad have many large (20' long X 2'deep) mud puddles, Although I did'nt
have any trouble navigating through, and I know these trucks are built for much
worse conditions than these, I was wondering exactly how much maintenance, in
the name of maximum longevity,  is required after a couple of hours of playing
in the mud.  I know the wading plugs should be installed, but I am mainly
concerned with the wheels/hubs and mud on the engine. Thanks.

P.S. Thanks for the comments I received when I asked about the price I paid for
the truck.

Happy Rovering,

Antonios Hadjigeorgalis
'94 Portofino Red Defender 90 No.359

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From: Modern@learnlink.emory.edu (Sean P. Murphy)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 18:59:49 -0500
Subject: Re: CB antenna location for a Range Rover

debrown@srp.gov,Internet writes:
>Please advise me on your opinions. What do you Range Rover owners do?

I don't know what Rangie folks do, but I can relate what I did on my
90.  The rear spare tire mount has bolts which hold the tire to the
tailgate.  If you buy a fiberglass antenna with a mirror mount designed
for American trucks (onyl bolts to 1/2" surfaces, of which there aren't
many on a LR), you can attach it to one of the top bolts.  The antenna
then sticks up between the spare tire and the back of the top.  With
the fiberglass exterior, the antenna doesn't do any damage when whipped
around by the brush, and is mostly protected by the rear of the car,
yet is far away from the engine, so the reception is good.  I ran the
cable out of the way to the CB in the console.

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From: apollard@arinc.com
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:50:27 -0400
Subject: CB antenna location for a Range Rover

    David, all,

    I have a CB set up for part-time use in my '87 RR.  The CB mounts with
    heavy duty Velcro to the bottom of the passenger side dash with quick
    disconnects for all the wiring.  I had the same concerns about an
    antenna until I found a cellular style CB antenna at Radio Shack.  It
    uses a through-the-glass type system like a cellular and is short and
    coiled.  I glued it on at the top of the right rear window.  Not only is
    it short enough to be safe from moderately low trees, the mast can be
    easily unscrewed from the mount for tight spaces.  I doubt if it
    performs nearly as well as a quarter-wave setup with a big ground plane
    but works fine for keeping in touch with other nearby vehicles, which is
    all I use it for.

    Good luck,

    Alan Pollard
    Colorado Springs

_________________________________________________________________

FROM:  David Brown                           Internet: debrown@srp.gov
       Computer Graphics Specialist * Mapping Services & Engr Graphics
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
Greetings all,

I finally got a CB radio! Now, I need to find an antenna and a place to
put it! Obviously, center of the roof is the ideal location
functionally, but I'm looking for suggestions....

I don't really mind (too much) drilling holes in the Range Rover, but I
hesitate to use center of the roof due to potential trail damage. Also,
will an aluminum roof still make a good ground plane? And, I'm concerned
that if (when!) I hit a branch with a roof mounted antenna, will it
damage the aluminum roof?

I tried a magnet mount on the hood, but I get too much interference from
the engine. I can't use it on the roof, since the roof is aluminum.

Please advise me on your opinions. What do you Range Rover owners do?

Thanks a bunch!!

#=======#         _________           We make a living by what we get,
|__|__|__\___    //__/__|__\___        we make a life by what we give.
| _|  |   |_ |}  \__/-\_|__/-\_|}
"(_)""""""(_)"      (_)    (_)                       Winston Churchill

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From: PZavaletta@aol.com
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 18:51:02 -0400
Subject: Summer Rally Info

Has anyone received any information about this summer's rally in/near 
Crested Buttee from Greg Chernushin? I've put in two calls to his law 
office over the last couple of weeks requesting info and as yet haven't 
received anything from him. 

Anyone with info and schedule of events, please post to the list. 

Thanks in advance, 

Peter M. Zavaletta, Esq.
'95 County Classic (Winston)

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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 96 17:58:01 -0500
From: "John B. Friedman" <johannes@scribes.english.uiuc.edu>
Subject: what happened to Hank at this address hlapa@Zeus.signalcorp.com

Anyone have a new or working address for Hank? Thanks, John Friedman

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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 08:29:32 -0400
From: RICHARD_COLEMAN@fmso.navy.mil (RICHARD COLEMAN)
Subject: replacement shocks

         CSOers,

             Doug M. has suggested OME (Old Man Emu) shocks
         for my 90 RR but didn't know if they are made for
         this vehicle. Does anyone know and has anyone used
         them on a RR.

                      Thanks,
                        Rick
                        90 RR

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