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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 08:55:47 -0600 (MDT)
From: "Douglas C. Marbourg" <marbourg@lanl.gov>
Subject: Re: Lemmon/Clutch Stiffy

>To: JEPurnell@aol.com
>From: "Douglas C. Marbourg" <marbourg@lanl.gov>
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 21 lines)]
>>John Purnell, Madison , Wi
>>94 D90 #1336

Hi John,

Yea, sorry.  I emptied my e-mail trash accidentally and lost about 1/2 dozen
messages I was intending to reply to, yours included.  %^(

Ya say you knew a guy in LA with a "lemon" D90?  What, aside from the oil
leaks, was the problem(s)?  I have had many "issues" with my 90 including
but not limited to: Rear diff (replaced twice), front diff (replaced once),
T-case (replaced), front and rear prop. shafts (will soon be replaced),
ignition switch (replaced), front wheel oil seals (replaced), clutch plate
(replaced), the front right break caliper bolts came loose and the caliper
jammed between the wheel rim and the rotor (limped home and all replaced),
exhaust manifold bolts came loose (fixed), turn signal relay (replaced) and
finally a oil pan "seepage" that drips on my driveway (gonna get it fixed
soon. I hope it's not the rear main seal!)

Fortunately, all of the above was replaced under warranty, but I'm still a
little worried about what's gonna happen after it expires (the warranty).
If all/any of the above continues to go bad, I'll have no choice but to sell
the vehicle.  No way would I have the cash to keep the girl running.  I
still love the vehicle, and now that it has a completely new drive train,
I'm confident she's on the right path to longevity (please, please, please).  

As far as the stiff clutch is concerned I've had no problems (I'll check to
see if I have a cat. shield).  During the summer the trans tunnel will get
almost too hot to touch during low speed crawling, and I would assume that
the slave cylinder is very hot also.  My recommendation, get the dealer to
replace it.  The '94 clutch is very stiff already and to compound the
stiffness would, aside from getting your left leg in good shape, be a royal
pain in the ***.  

Are you noticing very little RRO mail lately?  I know the LRO server is
down, but I'm gettin only 2 or 3 messages from RRO.  Is it the server or is
it just that there's nothing to chat about?  

Doug "didn't take the hard top off yet" Marbourg, 94' NAS D90 #1123
marbourg@lanl.gov

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 11:59:47 -0400
From: RICHARD_COLEMAN@fmso.navy.mil (RICHARD COLEMAN)
Subject: FOR SALE 90 RR

         This afternoon I'll be trading in 'the money pit'
         on a 92 BMW 735i. If anyone is interested in a 90
         Range Rover with a plethera of NEW PARTS. Let me
         know and I'll put you in touch with the dealer who
         has it. I won't be able to answer your email until
         I return to work on Mon. 22 Apr. If you are REALLY
         interested call me at 717-766-5298.

                             Cheers,
                             Rick
                             (soon to be Roverless)

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 10:33:08 -0700
From: matts@cacilj.caciasl.com (Matt Snyder)
Subject: 90 RR purchase - got one (roof rack)

I've never seen or heard of anyone else who does this, but I've been very 
happy with my Thule "Weekender," a box that fits on the Thule rack.  Mine's 
been on top of the Range Rover for about two years now, and I use it to keep 
spare parts and fluids, maps, blankets, tools, and all the other stuff you'd 
like to keep in the Rangey but don't want to have taking up space in the 
cargo area.  The box locks, as does the rack.

On offroad trips, I also keep a low-profile plastic 5-gallon container of 
gas up there, no need to worry about fumes or spillage, and no need to worry 
about rear/front end collision.

I have both Thule and Yakima, and I prefer Thule.  A square pipe makes more 
sense for holding things horizontally, Thule's device that attaches the 
pylons to the rain gutter is (IMO) better and easier to use, Thule's means 
of attaching the pipe to the pylon is way better (no wrench required), and 
Thule's locks work better.  I switched to Thule after one of my locked 
Yakima racks was stolen.

-Matt

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 13:22:38 -0400
From: "barnett childress" <barnett=childress%Eng%EMCHOP1@fishbowl02.lss.emc.com>
Subject: Re: Lemon/Problems & tire airdowns

Doug,
You have had all of that stuff replaced? WOW! I haven't had any of those 
problems with my 95, knock on aluminum. I can understand a diff problem but 
both diff's and both props and the xfer? What were the problems you were 
experiencing?

Also wanted to ask you about airing down tires;

Rovers North told me that they do not air down because of increased 
possibility of tire and rim damage. However, on the trail ride I went on 
last Saturday with a rating of 5-7, all of the J**P and TOY**A guy's aired 
down to about 15PSI. I aired down a little to 22PSI.

Do you air down at all, and if so how much? What are the pluses and minuses 
to airing down your tires?

Anyone else out there have any comments?
Thanks
Barnett
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Original Text
From: "Douglas C. Marbourg" <marbourg@lanl.gov>, on 4/19/96 8:55 AM:
>Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 20:44:06
>To: JEPurnell@aol.com
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
>Subject: Re: Lemmon/Clutch Stiffy
>>Sorry Doug, the only  top I knew of was a fellow in LA who gave his truck 
back
>>to LR because it was a lemon, they couldn't repair a bunch of oil leaks, 
and
>>other stuff, and he complained so much they bought it back from him :>(   
He
>>had a bunch of parts, but I wrote him and all are sold.  
>>Have I asked you if you ever had a stiff clutch?  My clutch gets stiff if 
>From: "Douglas C. Marbourg" <marbourg@lanl.gov>
I
>>park the truck after its hot, and the slave cylinder soaks in heat from 
the
>>catalytic converter.  Or if I idle araound a lot and don't have good 
airflow
>>under the truck.  Rob Leggario says his 94 (#18?? I think. later than 
ours)
>>has a heat shield above the cat converter.  I haven't yet looked on mine, 
but
>>will post my findings when I do...he NEVER has this stiff clutch problem.
>> You?
>>John Purnell, Madison , Wi
>>94 D90 #1336

Hi John,

Yea, sorry.  I emptied my e-mail trash accidentally and lost about 1/2 
dozen
messages I was intending to reply to, yours included.  %^(

Ya say you knew a guy in LA with a "lemon" D90?  What, aside from the oil
leaks, was the problem(s)?  I have had many "issues" with my 90 including
but not limited to: Rear diff (replaced twice), front diff (replaced once),
T-case (replaced), front and rear prop. shafts (will soon be replaced),
ignition switch (replaced), front wheel oil seals (replaced), clutch plate
(replaced), the front right break caliper bolts came loose and the caliper
jammed between the wheel rim and the rotor (limped home and all replaced),
exhaust manifold bolts came loose (fixed), turn signal relay (replaced) and
finally a oil pan "seepage" that drips on my driveway (gonna get it fixed
soon. I hope it's not the rear main seal!)

Fortunately, all of the above was replaced under warranty, but I'm still a
little worried about what's gonna happen after it expires (the warranty).
If all/any of the above continues to go bad, I'll have no choice but to 
sell
the vehicle.  No way would I have the cash to keep the girl running.  I
still love the vehicle, and now that it has a completely new drive train,
I'm confident she's on the right path to longevity (please, please, 
please).  

As far as the stiff clutch is concerned I've had no problems (I'll check to
see if I have a cat. shield).  During the summer the trans tunnel will get
almost too hot to touch during low speed crawling, and I would assume that
the slave cylinder is very hot also.  My recommendation, get the dealer to
replace it.  The '94 clutch is very stiff already and to compound the
stiffness would, aside from getting your left leg in good shape, be a royal
pain in the ***.  

Are you noticing very little RRO mail lately?  I know the LRO server is
down, but I'm gettin only 2 or 3 messages from RRO.  Is it the server or is
it just that there's nothing to chat about?  

Doug "didn't take the hard top off yet" Marbourg, 94' NAS D90 #1123
marbourg@lanl.gov

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From: "Robert Watson (CNA)" <a-robw@MICROSOFT.com>
Subject: RE: tire airdowns
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 11:51:04 -0700

>Also wanted to ask you about airing down tires;
>Rovers North told me that they do not air down because of increased 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 14 lines)]
>minuses 
>to airing down your tires?
>Anyone else out there have any comments?

I've had similar experiences and I got to thinking...

	Airing down, tries to place more tire in contact with the terrain and
allows more sidewall to contact the ground and/or conform to the uneven
terrain for better grip. The additional benefit, if any, of this depends
on the tires (tread pattern, and bias/radial construction) and the
terrain. It does soften the ride if you (well your truck, anyway) are
stiffly sprung.

	Jeeps weigh 3-4,000 lbs. With big tires, i.e. larger than stock, there
is alot of surplus load capacity so they can be aired-down without much
fear of tire damage resulting from overloading. OTOH, my big fat
Discovery starts at 4500 pounds and probably weighs in at closer to
5,000 or 5,500 once loaded with people and gear. Since I'm running stock
tires (for now), I don't have that much surplus load capacity in the
tires. Consequently, I don't like to go much below 20psi if I don't have
to. (I usually humor the Jeepers and let a little out just to be
social). It's always easy enough to let air out later if necessary but
without a serious air compressor, it's a pain to try to put it back in
on the trail. 

	Personally, I haven't seen a tremendous advantage to airing down the
stock Michilens that come with the Discovery since I've gotten stuck
with them aired down and had no problem with them at "road" pressure
(see the 1st paragraph). I have dinged the rim already (though I don't
know if it happened when I was "aired down" or not) so I'll probably be
skipping that step for a while to see what happens.

As always, YMMV!
    _____
   /|__|_\__(|                           Bob Watson
  |   |   |  \                 a-robw@microsoft.com
  |---|___|___\____      Mountlake Terrace, WA, USA 
  |  _|=  |=  |o_  }\                
 [|_/_ \__|___|/_\_}|    '95 Beluga Black Discovery
    \_/        \_/                            N7UMU
(see the 1st paragraph). I have dinged the rim already (though I don't

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 13:54:18 -0600
From: Robert Kolander <kolanrj@gw.startribune.com>
Subject:  Wipers, the list, and doortops

First question:

Does anyone know the model or part # of the wiper blades for the D90
('95)? My driver side wiper's rubber is slowly ripping away from the
metal blade, and it's getting hard(er) to see on these snowy (yes,
it's still snows in MN in April - joy!!) and rainy days.

Second,
I don't seem to be getting posts regularly like I used to. I'm not
sure if something happened, or if traffic has just come to an almost
abrupt halt (I get between 3-6 list emails a day lately, & i'm pretty
sure there's more traffic than that).

Thirdly, since it is getting warm out, I'm wondering how to take off
the door tops. It doesn't explain how in the owner's manual I
received, and the dealer never told me. I got a little rachet set in
my cubby when I bought it (included a the rachet and a 15mm socket, I
think). I've tried to find someplace to use it, but the only thing
that looks like a place to disconnect the doortops are the four
silver screws in the window "rail" (where the windows slide back &
forth) that appear to go down into the door. However, these seem
rather small and I would be kind of suprised if these were the only
things holding the door tops on.

Oh yeah, passed a red D90 coming the otherway on the highway waving
like a madman, flicking my lights,  and not even a glance in my
direction. 

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From: Chris_Browne@US014-BOSTON-MINET.CCMAIL.CompuServe.COM
Date: 19 Apr 96 15:32:42 EDT
Subject: Re[2]: Lemon/Problems & tire airdowns

     WOW!
     Sounds like they virtually rebuilt your car!!!!
     I find it difficult to believe that all the parts that were 
replaced could all be defective, that would be too much of a coincidence.    

Hate to say this but are you sure your dealer actually knows what 
it is doing?        

     regards
     Chris browne

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 13:46:25 -0600 (MDT)
From: "Douglas C. Marbourg" <marbourg@lanl.gov>
Subject: Re: Lemon/Problems & tire airdowns

At 01:22 PM 4/19/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Doug,
>You have had all of that stuff replaced? WOW! I haven't had any of those 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 20 lines)]
>Barnett
>-------------

Barnett,

Yea, depressing isn't it?  Not really though.

The first rear diff. was my fault (don't tell anyone !^).  I got inta one of
those situse' and discovered what a bucking V8 can do to diff spider gears.
Stupid me. Too much throttle. Sheared the carrier pin and everything, but
the amazing thing was it kept driving for over a week on a 80 mile commute!  

The second diff. was a factory dud.  Made a hissing sound like a bad carrier
bearing or somthin.  I didn't care.  Just wanted it fixed.

The T-case most likely did not need replacement, but hey, if ya saw the
first rear diff., you would want it replaced too!

The front diff., well as long as your replacing the T-case AND the rear
diff...Well...er. uh.

The clutch didn't really need replacing either.  It was a mechanic "try" to
eliminate a stiff shifting trany.  Didn't help the shifting, but hey, got a
new clutch at 12,000 miles.  What did end up helping was new linkage, or was
it because I had 16k on the odometer, and the trans finally worked itself
in?  Anyway, shifts like a dream at 23K with 1/2 synthetic in it.

The prop shafts is a real issue.  When I back off the accelerator, right in
between engine compression and acceleration. I get a nasty vibration/noise
com ming from "somewhere in the middle" of the vehicle.  The sound is akin
to some of the warning shoulder imprints on some highways.
VERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.  It's either  the T-case AGAIN, or most likely, a bad
u-joint, or impute shaft.  I'll post when it's diagnosed/fixed.

The ignition switch did quit.  The wife ran an errand and when she tried to
start the vehicle, no go.  It would turn over and fire, but when the key was
released from the on position it would die.  I've heard this is somewhat
common in Rover products (Lucas Demons or somthin).
It was, knock on aluminum, the only time I've needed the LR road side
assistance.  I could have hot wired it, but didn't want to fry the coil.
(sorry about the "knock on aluminum" plagiarism Barnett. It just fit there
so well! :*).  

As far as airing down your tires, give it a try.  You have air lockers, so I
assume you got the attachments to your compressor to air your tires back up.
I dropped mine down to 15 psi, and realized much greater traction.  There is
a "danger" of loosing a bead, but I think the advantages in traction AND
travel are worth it.  Bias ply tires, such as Mickie T's, will mash out to a
much greater size footprint, thus allowing better surface contact (duh).
Radial ply on the other hand are designed for better sidewall stiffness, and
as a result don't "mash" quite as good.  BUT, when rockin' it, the lower
pressure does allow the radial tire to conform to the rock, and, once again,
aids in traction/travel.  Some J**Pers in my area run with bead locks at
about 5 psi when rock crawlin'.  

As far as rim damaged, well our fancy pants alloy rims are susceptible to
dings, though I've never had problems, barring a couple of dings on the face
of one rim (not as a result of low tire pressure).  Of course steel rims are
less susceptible to cosmetic damage but will tweak on a good hit, alloy,
I've heard, is less susceptible to major "tweaks".
 
Sorry about the length of this post, but with the lack of RRO chatting goin
on, I had nothing better to do. Work? O'yea! Ok boss right away! :^).

Doug "didn't take the hard top off yet" Marbourg, 94' NAS D90 #1123
marbourg@lanl.gov

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU>
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 15:18:02 GMT -0600
Subject: unsubscribing

I'm unsubscribing from the list while I'm in Nashville next week. 
Yep, no ARB locker jokes for awhile.
My e-mail will be forwarded to my Compuserve account if you need to 
reach me about something important. Just e-mail me directly.

So I really don't expect to here from you ;-)

Hopefully I'll get the digests when I get back to see if I missed 
anything.

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:49:19 -0600 (MDT)
From: "Douglas C. Marbourg" <marbourg@lanl.gov>
Subject: Re: Wipers, the list, and doortops

>Second,
>I don't seem to be getting posts regularly like I used to. I'm not
>sure if something happened, or if traffic has just come to an almost
>abrupt halt (I get between 3-6 list emails a day lately, & i'm pretty
>sure there's more traffic than that).

Yea! I was wondering the same thing, but personally, I think that we need a
great controversial thread to get things goin again! Somthing like "I'm
gonna install 44" supperswampers on my D90. What do I need to make-um fit?"
Or, somthin like "I don't like fuel injection on the 3.9. Anyone know of a
Webber 6 pack bolt on?" :^) 

>Thirdly, since it is getting warm out, I'm wondering how to take off
>the door tops. It doesn't explain how in the owner's manual I
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
>forth) that appear to go down into the door. However, these seem
>rather small and I would be kind of suprised if these were the only
>things holding the door tops on.

STOP! Don't pull the track screws.  On the under side of the window on the
plastic door panel there is two holes. If ya feel/look inside you will see
the two bolts which secure the tops.  I can't remember the size, but they
are significantly larger than 15mm.  You will need a 6" extension to get to
the nuts.  Be careful, there is washers that will drop between the door
panel and the door, so be ready to catch um (I had to pull the door panel to
recover one).

Remember, when you re-install do not over tighten.  If you do then the
window won't slide very easily.

>Oh yeah, passed a red D90 coming the otherway on the highway waving
>like a madman, flicking my lights,  and not even a glance in my
>direction. 

I recently passed a NAS 110, flashed my lights, waved, then honked.  He
looked at me like his car was on fire, then realizing nothing was wrong,
nodded.  O'well...

Doug "didn't take the hard top off yet" Marbourg, 94' NAS D90 #1123
marbourg@lanl.gov

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:57:09 -0600 (MDT)
From: "Douglas C. Marbourg" <marbourg@lanl.gov>
Subject: TEST

Sorry, just a test.  Time sent to RRO 2:59pm MST.

Doug "didn't take the hard top off yet" Marbourg, 94' NAS D90 #1123
marbourg@lanl.gov

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From: "Robert Watson (CNA)" <a-robw@MICROSOFT.com>
Subject: RE: Slow List Traffic
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:31:19 -0700

>Yea! I was wondering the same thing, but personally, I think that we
>need a
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
>of a
>Webber 6 pack bolt on?" :^) 

Does any one know of a leaf-spring conversion for my Discovery? I want
to be "hip" on the other list.
    _____
   /|__|_\__(|                           Bob Watson
  |   |   |  \                 a-robw@microsoft.com
  |---|___|___\____      Mountlake Terrace, WA, USA 
  |  _|=  |=  |o_  }\                
 [|_/_ \__|___|/_\_}|    '95 Beluga Black Discovery
    \_/        \_/      Coil sprung (for now... :-)

>Yea! I was wondering the same thing, but personally, I think that we

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From: "Robert Watson (CNA)" <a-robw@MICROSOFT.com>
Subject: FW: tire airdowns
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:31:53 -0700

>Also wanted to ask you about airing down tires;
>Rovers North told me that they do not air down because of increased 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 53 lines)]
> [|_/_ \__|___|/_\_}|    '95 Beluga Black Discovery
>    \_/        \_/                            N7UMU

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 16:28:53 -0500
From: "John B. Friedman" <johannes@scribes.english.uiuc.edu>
Subject: 95 Disco crankshaft timing gear recall: more

I just got back from my dealer yesterday where this recall   
replacement was completed. Apparently most Disco owners should not  
worry as the dealer saids only a very few cars(5? 10?) most of which  
went to this dealer in Indianapolis, were affected. I also got an ABS  
warning sensor chip in the ECU replaced and now my ABS warning light  
is not on all the time.
	There were many Discos(7) and RR 4.0 SEs on this lot plus 5-6  
92 and up County LWB and Hunters in good average condition so if any  
one on the list in Indiana is looking. . .
	I also saw a red D-90 black cloth top with Colorado plates  
2471 could it be? in for a fix? 

				John Friedman

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From: kirkwood@strider.fm.intel.com (Clayton Kirkwood)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:54:43 -0700
Subject: Re: TEST

On Apr 19,  2:57pm, Douglas C. Marbourg wrote:
> Subject: TEST
> Sorry, just a test.  Time sent to RRO 2:59pm MST.
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> Sorry, just a test.  Time sent to RRO 2:59pm MST.
> Doug "didn't take the hard top off yet" Marbourg, 94' NAS D90
#1123
> marbourg@lanl.gov
>-- End of excerpt from Douglas C. Marbourg

You're a dirty no good low down... Maybe this will get the list
motivated. Everybody, take sides and come out SCREAMING.
(definitely not enough controversy, so no traffic :>)

By the way Doug, not bad timing (I think there is a time warp going
on). You sent the message at 2:59pm and I received it at 2:57pm. I
know my time is correct because I own timeservices on Intel's
network. We use those fun satellites to determine our time. So
either we know the exact time down to milliseconds and don't have
an accurate LONG/LAT or we know exactly where we are to the
LONG/LAT degree/minute/second.hundreth second and our time is way
off.

What do ya think?????

Isn't technology wonderful.

Timestamp: Fri Apr 19 14:54:44 PDT 1996

-- 
Clayton R. Kirkwood, FM1-58, 916 356-5838

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 16:55:22 -0500 (CDT)
From: "David C. McCormack" <dmccorma@execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Wipers, the list, and doortops

At 01:54 PM 4/19/96 -0600, Robert Kolander wrote:

>Second,
>I don't seem to be getting posts regularly like I used to. I'm not
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
>abrupt halt (I get between 3-6 list emails a day lately, & i'm pretty
>sure there's more traffic than that).

I've experienced the same and have wondered the same.
David C. McCormack
95 White Discovery, Wisconsin, "MackX4"

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From: kirkwood@strider.fm.intel.com (Clayton Kirkwood)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 15:23:31 -0700
Subject: Re: Slow List Traffic

You know this really won't cut it. Remember, the issue for some is
not coil vs. leaf but the amount of cushioning in the seats, the
ability to foil-broil on the manifold while on the move, the
auto-latte maker, the spray-and-drive wash and wear capability, and
the no-wax exterior. Actually, I have it on good authority, the
coil vs. leaf issue has nothing to do with the frame suspension,
but rather refers to the seat suspension: leaf sprung seat
cushions, versus coil sprung seat cushions!!!

So, in conclusion, you can see how you have it all wrong now I
hope.

On Apr 19,  2:31pm, Robert Watson (CNA) wrote:
> Subject: RE: Slow List Traffic
> >Yea! I was wondering the same thing, but personally, I think
that we
> >need a
> >great controversial thread to get things goin again! Somthing
like "I'm
> >gonna install 44" supperswampers on my D90. What do I need to
make-um
> >fit?"
> >Or, somthin like "I don't like fuel injection on the 3.9. Anyone
know
> >of a
> >Webber 6 pack bolt on?" :^)
> Does any one know of a leaf-spring conversion for my Discovery? I

want
> to be "hip" on the other list.
>     _____
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 12 lines)]
>     \_/        \_/      Coil sprung (for now... :-)
>-- End of excerpt from Robert Watson (CNA)

-- 
Clayton R. Kirkwood, FM1-58, 916 356-5838

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 17:48:21 -0800
From: bronson@diamondmm.com (Scott Bronson)
Subject: RE: Slow List Traffic

>>I'm gonna install 44" supperswampers on my D90. What do I need to
>>make-um fit?"
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
>Does any one know of a leaf-spring conversion for my Discovery? I want
>to be "hip" on the other list.

Can anyone tell me how to convert my Range Rover to positive ground?

        - Scott

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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 04:06:19 GMT
From: Daniel McDonough <mcdonoug@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Wipers, the list, and doortops

>STOP! Don't pull the track screws.  On the under side of the window on the
>plastic door panel there is two holes. If ya feel/look inside you will see
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
>panel and the door, so be ready to catch um (I had to pull the door panel to
>recover one).

The stock nuts are 15mm, the washers are attached to the nuts. Watch out
for the plastic liners in the doors, they tend to try and escape when
you aren't looking. Also take care with the rubber seal, mine always sticks
to the door and I have to work on it to free it.

>Remember, when you re-install do not over tighten.  If you do then the
>window won't slide very easily.
>the two bolts which secure the tops.  I can't remember the size, but they
>are significantly larger than 15mm.  You will need a 6" extension to get to
Oh, thats why that happens. OOPS!

Daniel McDonough
mcdonoug@worldnet.att.net

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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 01:19:48 -0500
From: ahyoon@students.wisc.edu (Arnold Yoon)
Subject: Re: 95 Disco crankshaft timing gear recall: more

>I just got back from my dealer yesterday where this recall
>replacement was completed. Apparently most Disco owners should not
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>one on the list in Indiana is looking. . .
>        I also saw a red D-90 black cloth top with Colorado plates
>2471 could it be? in for a fix?

Say John:

How do we all tell if our Discos are one of the unlucky few?  We all know
that the Rover V8 is indestructible...but  someone once told me that those
timing gear thingies were important....or something!
:--)   *hee hee*

Rover ON!

Arnold Yoon
University of Wisconsin - Madison
E-Mail: ahyoon@students.wisc.edu
Voice: (608) 259-9936

Land Rover 4 Ever!
1995 Land Rover Discovery
"Four Wheel Drive Exemplified"

 

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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 15:48:12 +0800
From: Tan Kit Sun <foxtan@singnet.com.sg>
Subject: Will the Dico ever get the BMW 6 Cylinder turbo-diesel?

Hi

Been surfing the Web for info on the diesel Discovery as am 
contemplating getting one.  Anyone on the list have know
whether the BMW 6 cylinder will become an option for the
Discovery?  

Kit S. Tan
Asst. Curator
Singapore Zoological Gardens

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