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From: PurnellJE@aol.com
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 21:25:37 -0400
Subject: Jaguar... Lucas related...
OK, you win.
I don't care if Jaguars have Lucas in 'em... I want one.
I drove my first four door 1984 jaguar with 12 banger in it today. I am
"revitalizing" it for the owner (along with a lot of other stuff...) . It
was put away at end of last summer for hibernation and defense against salt,
it only has 55K on it. I got it running, and drove it around a bit. Oh my.
I repeat: "oh my." Smooth is only a superficial description of this
automobile. Very quiet, comfortable, heck even the seats were supportive of
my back, something the Americans still haven't figured out, even though they
build more cars than Lucas has relays...
The Lucas part... ha ha. I get the thing running, I watch the gas guage go
from zero to half, from zero to half, and I see absoulutely NO oil pressure
from that guage. I figure if there really wasn't any oil pressure, either
I'd hear it, or I could tell the owner that whoever put it away last year
wrecked teh engine... ha . Anyway, never mind that it took about 20 minutes
for the oil pressure guage to become active, and forget the "oscillating"
right fuel tank level indicator... when I revved the engine to over 2400rpm,
the radio went beserk and acted like the power was being turned on and off
repeatedly and rapidly. Oh boy... that and the electric sunroof wouldn't
open.
Isn't that actually against the law? To have a sunroof in a Jaguar that
doesn't open? I had better repair this for the owner before they get caught.
Anyway, I've decided that after I sell the Brooklyn Bridge a couple times,
I'm gonna own a D90, a RR, and a Jaguar. Summer is for the Jag and D90, rain
and shine respectively, and winter is for the RR.
The British win.
John.
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Date: 04 Jun 96 04:04:03 EDT
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Re: RR Power Windows
>>The front windows on our RR tend to go up slowly and once in a while I need
>>to help pull it up. Is this normal?
> Quite so. This was LR's "driver participation" campaign for the Rangies,
...
>and in their infinite wisdom, came up with this approach to give you
>something to do.
Yes, plus the passenger side power lock sometimes not functioning,
requiring you to walk around and lock the door manually. Sharpens your
sense of security and does something for your fitness...
Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>
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From: GElam30092@aol.com
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 22:21:26 -0400
Subject: National Land Rover Rally
Got some more information on the Solihull Society's National Land Rover Rally
scheduled for Aug. Greg Chernushin says that both Land Rover World and LROI
are sending reporters to cover the event and that Bill Burke is developing
the trails and activities. So... does this mean that if you roll your Land
Rover, you can expect to be embarrassed internationally?
Gerry "Phx, AZ" Elam
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Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 08:07:15 -0500
From: Jeff & Laura Kessler <lmkessler@srnet.com>
Subject: Re: RR Fuel Pumps
At 10:21 PM 6/3/96 -0700, you wrote:
>At 06:52 PM 5/29/96 -0500, you wrote:
>>Where were all these less expensive fuel pumps last week when my pump went
out?
>>Jeff Kessler
>>1988 Range Rover
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>1967 FLH HD
>San Luis Obispo Ca.
Blair
Behind the left rear tire, sitting on the frame rail (more or less) is the
connection plug for the fuel pump.
Disconnect this and hook a volt meter between the positive wire (guess or
try both) and a good ground. Start the RR and you should see about 12 volts
(I had 11 volts) and when you stop cranking the voltage should shut down
after a second. If you get voltage than everything is fine to that point.
If no voltage, check the fuse, the inertia switch (under the back of the
drivers seat looks like a push switch, down on, up off), and the relays
under the passenger seat.
>From the pump wires, check continuity with an ohm meter. I had about 4-5
ohms across the pump.
If I can be of more help, call.
Jeff Kessler
1988 Range Rover
Newport NH USA 603-863-7883 w/603-526-4741
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From: DAlberga@aol.com
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 19:46:31 -0400
Subject: D90 Brush Bar
On Mon, 3 Jun 1996 DAlberga@aol.com wrote:
As Steve at British Pacific can attest I've spent a fair amount of time
hemming and hawing
over the purchase of a brush bar for my '94 D90. Don't think I want to go
all
the way and get an ARB or Safari Gard (although the Safari Gard one looks
pretty
trick), but I'm not psyched about the latest cost of the LR OE bars.
Soooooo....I'm soliciting the group to see if anyone out there has a used
original equipment brush bar for sale. Just thought I'd check, assuming
that
one occasionally frees up when someone upgrades to Safari Gard or ARB. So,
if someone out there has one or knows of one, please let me know. I live in
CA but UPSing should'nt be difficult from almost anywhere.
Since I don't normally lurk on this list, please respond to me directly at
(Dalberga@aol.com)
Thanks Tons
Dave
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Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 21:42:25 -0400
From: Richard Ruffer <rruffer@interserv.com>
Subject: Re: Safari Gard Catalog?
Antonios Hadjigeorgali wrote:
> Does Safari gard have a catalog and how can I get one?
You can get a catalog by calling Safari Gard at (909) 698-6114. Greg Jevne is the
owner/designer/fabricator. When I called, Greg was able to fax me a copy of the catalog
as soon as we hung up. The catalog doesn't have prices, so you may want to ask for a
price list.
Rich Ruffer
Morristown, NJ
rruffer@interserv.com
'94 D90 #634
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From: PurnellJE@aol.com
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 21:25:37 -0400
Subject: those darn folks who don't wave...
Add me to the "snubbed" list. One of those old ones, ya know, no AC, leaky
windows, leaf springs, all that museum stuff..., went by on the opposite side
of the road. I see it, I always see 'em, (I'm NOT arrogant...), I wave, I
WAVE, I flippin' yell, nope. Must've been deep in conversation about a
future LR project.
And, the next day, a four door museum piece, I think the old timers call 'em
109s, went by, RIGHT by, in fact HE passed ME on the freeway, IT WAS RAINING
and I was with surrey/tonneau, so I was grabbin' some attention here, mostly
laughter I admit, but attention nonetheless... and he didn't even look at me,
I waved , I even BEEPED the damn horn ( I don't think those old things even
HAVE horns... am I right???? The electronics or something??) SHeesh, I
really tried. I was in old blue jeans too, I was comin' back from a
bluegrass jam, had banjo in back, so I wasn't all "suit and tied" up. He had
no reason to snub me like that. The nerve of the guy. Hmph.
Could he have read this post before I wrote it, and didn't understand I was
having fun with the "real" land rovers???
see ya.
John :>)
D90 for sale.
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Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 14:40:24 +0100
From: rvirzi@gte.com (Robert A. Virzi)
Subject: Anybody out there?
My feed's gone dead. Anyone getting rro or lro on 4-Jun-96 please drop me
a note. -Bob Virzi
rvirzi@gte.com Think Globally. ===
+1(617)466-2881 === Act Locally!
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From: debrown@srp.gov
Date: 04 Jun 96 13:34:44 MST
Subject: Re: RR Power Windows
FROM: David Brown Internet: debrown@srp.gov
Computer Graphics Specialist ~ S.R.P. ~ AM/FM - Graphic Records
PAB219 (602)236-3544 - Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
> From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@CompuServe.COM>
> Yes, plus the passenger side power lock sometimes not functioning,
> requiring you to walk around and lock the door manually. Sharpens your
> sense of security and does something for your fitness...
WOW! And I thought it was just me!!! I found that when I notice it not
locking (I usually watch, now) if I just unlock, and then lock again, it
usually locks the 2nd or 3rd time.
Dave...
#=======# _________ "What lies behind us and what lies
|__|__|__\___ //__/__|__\___ before us are tiny matters compared
| _| | |_ |} \__/-\_|__/-\_|} to what lies within us."
"(_)""""""(_)" (_) (_) Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 16:41:11 +0100
From: rvirzi@gte.com (Robert A. Virzi)
Subject: Re: D90 Brush Bar
>On Mon, 3 Jun 1996 DAlberga@aol.com (Dave) wrote:
> Anybody got a spare pair 'o bambi bars they want to sell cheap?
You may want to contact Performance Industries in the UK. They have many
sorts of new bars that they'll ship you ranging in price from US$150 - 300.
BTW - I had a bit of a bad experience with PI, in that they were supposed
to ship me a skid plate but didn't because of shipping problems. Too bulky
to ship economically, they claimed. So I ordered one from BritPac only to
find a week later it was backordered. So I'm still waiting and Owl's Head
is coming up fast.
Performance's fax number is +441544 230904.
-Bob
rvirzi@gte.com Think Globally. ===
+1(617)466-2881 === Act Locally!
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From: debrown@srp.gov
Date: 04 Jun 96 13:44:35 MST
Subject: Weather Forecast for June 4-11, 1996 (Phoenix AZ)
FROM: David Brown Internet: debrown@srp.gov
Computer Graphics Specialist ~ S.R.P. ~ AM/FM - Graphic Records
PAB219 (602)236-3544 - Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
For those of you who were envious last winter as Gerry and I boasted about
our phoenix weather, read on...
(This is just the normal weather, wait till it gets HOT!)
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The Nation Weather Services' predicted high for today is 112 degrees.
If you don't know where you're going,
any road will take you there....
*******************
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SUBJECT: Weather Forecast for June 4-11, 1996
TODAY WED THU FRI SAT SUN MON TUE
Min/Max:
SRP /112 80/112 80/111 82/113 84/113 82/112 80/110 80/110
NWS /112 80/112 80/111
(record
maxes: 113 85 112 82 109 85 115 84 115 82 114 81 111 84 114)
TODAY's MIN: 80 (preliminary report)
YESTERDAY's MAX: 111, MIN: 76, Avg. Dew Pt.: 36, RAIN: 0 (0000-2400)
1984-93 Normals: 76/102 (adjusted for ASOS: 74/101)
New record maxMAX set yesterday (old record 110 in 1990). Additional
new records possible this week. Let's hope this leads to a real wet
monsoon next month!
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To tie it in to LR's.... Enjoy the weather, get out, and get dirty!
But remember to bring LOTS of water, for yourself, and your beast!
(That is, your LR, not your spouse!) ;-)
Dave (starting to break a sweat) Brown
#=======# _________ "What lies behind us and what lies
|__|__|__\___ //__/__|__\___ before us are tiny matters compared
| _| | |_ |} \__/-\_|__/-\_|} to what lies within us."
"(_)""""""(_)" (_) (_) Ralph Waldo Emerson
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From: g@ix.netcom.com (Gerald)
Subject: Driving with hand brake on
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 21:26:23 GMT
Pulling away from the petrol/gas station today I realized I had left
the hand brake on. Clearly not enough to prevent the car from moving;
I don't think I noticed the car responding any differently. What is
the wisdom on whether I have done any damage? How do I tell? Wha
should I do? (Besides avoiding this behavior.)
Thanks
--
Gerald
g@ix.netcom.com
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Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 16:36:34 -0700
From: campfred <campfred@itis.com>
Subject: Fuel Pump GM/RR Part #
I've noticed alot of discussion on fuel pumps lately. My local mechanic
tells me that "Genuine GM" Part Number 462-23 is what was used for my
1988 Range Rover. It's supposed to be identical to what you get from the
Rover dealers except the price is about 1/2 if ordered from normal GM
sources. Can anyone verify that? What about other parts e.g.
distributor caps, rotors, coils, etc. Does anyone know of other
inter-changeable parts?
Fred Campbell, McFarland, WI (1988 Range Rover)
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Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 17:16:13 -0600
From: Robert Kolander <kolanrj@gw.startribune.com>
Subject: Fuel Pump GM/RR Part # -Reply
Oddly enough, I'm working on a web page (hopefully it will grow into
more than just a page) that will list Rover - parts and their
"second-class" interchangeable cousins, which usually run about half
price.
I've only got a handful right now, but would appreciate ANY input
from the group. (Please, include as much info as possible when you
send me a part #, like what vehicle it is for, what year, where you
got it, etc....). I know this list could be huge and be a tremendous
help to the group.
if you want to email me with some info directly,
I'm at:
kolan001@maroon.tc.umn.edu
Rover on!
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Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 16:37:32 -0600
From: Chris Brosious <brosious@pogo.den.mmc.com>
Subject: Re: Hello...anybody out there?
Jeff Gauvin wrote:
> ...I just put a set of military tow rings on the front of
> my D90, ...
Jeff,
I too just bought some of the tow loops from Rovers North, but they
don't quite fit so well. They go around the frame all right (the skid
plate will need to be shaved a bit), but I have a spacer inbetween the
frame member and frame plate (side) that the loop mounting bolt also
passes through. I am assuming that the tow loop mounts in place of the
factor tie down rings. How did you mount yuor rings? Looks like a bit
of work for me to mount mine.
Chris Brosious
'94 D90
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Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 19:08:01 -0400
From: Bill Skidmore <skidmore@monmouth.com>
Subject: Re: D90 Brush Bar
Robert A. Virzi wrote:
> >On Mon, 3 Jun 1996 DAlberga@aol.com (Dave) wrote:
> > Anybody got a spare pair 'o bambi bars they want to sell cheap?
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> rvirzi@gte.com Think Globally. ===
> +1(617)466-2881 === Act Locally!
To all;
Just got a copy of BritPac's D90 catalog, and lo and behold, they
have skid plates and differential protectors (US$270 and $95, ea,
PNs 8MMSKID, & DGF & DGR, respect.).
Call 818-841-8945, or email britpac@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 19:17:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Stephen Selby Willey <willey@cac.washington.edu>
Subject: RR: hub end-play
'90 NAS RR.
i recently replaced one of my front brake rotors (disk) and did the
accompanying hub seal renewal and brake pad replacement. things went
fairly smooth (only two mid-operation trips to sears), the only thing i
was left guessing about is the hub end-play.
we (my wrench partner) and i tried to roughly approximate the tightness
and end-play by hand since neither of us had a dial gauge or the special
mounting bracket.
what do other people do when they have to remove and replace the hub?
any help appreciated.
cheers,
steve
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Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 16:39:45 -1000
From: "ROGER HALL: HNL M.E. GROUP" <ROGER_H@verifone.com>
Subject: Jaguar and lucas
John writes:
>OK, you win.
>I don't care if Jaguars have Lucas in 'em... I want one.
>I drove my first four door 1984 jaguar with 12 banger in it today. I am
>"revitalizing" it for the owner (along with a lot of other stuff...) . It
>was put away at end of last summer for hibernation and defense against salt,
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>Anyway, I've decided that after I sell the Brooklyn Bridge a couple times,
>I'm gonna own a D90, a RR, and a Jaguar. Summer is for the Jag and D90, rain
>and shine respectively, and winter is for the RR.
>The British win.
>John.
A D90, RR, Jaguar, AND LUCAS? Does 'LEANING INTO A LEFT HOOK' mean anything to
you?
Actually, I feel the same way. I guess we're gluttons for punishment.
Roger
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Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 22:38:43 -0500
From: Jeff & Laura Kessler <lmkessler@srnet.com>
Subject: RR Brake Pads
What are the recommended brake pads (front and rear) for the Range Rover?
Are there any generic brands available?
Thanks.
Jeff Kessler
1988 Range Rover
Newport NH USA 603-863-7883
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From: PurnellJE@aol.com
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 09:33:47 -0400
Subject: Re: Jaguar and lucas
In a message dated 96-06-04 22:44:26 EDT, ROGER_H@verifone.com (ROGER HALL:
HNL M.E. GROUP) writes:
>A D90, RR, Jaguar, AND LUCAS? Does 'LEANING INTO A LEFT HOOK' mean anything
>to
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>Actually, I feel the same way. I guess we're gluttons for punishment.
>Roger
I thought that was what the stiff upper lip was from??
John :)
PS: I am certainly in denial that anything electrically serious will ever
happen to me, and couple that with my arrogance that I can fix whatever does
happen, makes me a perfect Lucas-phyte, I think.
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