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Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:11:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Brabyn <brabyn@skivs.ski.org>
Subject: Re: tire sizes for RR

I think William Owen has answered this well, but you should know the 65 
is wrong in the 205/65/R16; either this is a mistake or the tire size is 
too small.

As William says the stock tires are a very good compromise for all terrain
use, better than most other AT tires, but like them it is not really a mud
tire. I've seen and heard of lots of RRs using the 225/75/R16 tire size,
which is a little wider but gives the same outside diameter and an
infinite number of choices in tread design, so you might try that if you
want some special purpose (especially mud) tire. In the 205R16 size more 
options are available in the UK than the US, so you could consider mail 
order.

Cheers

John

On Mon, 10 Jun 1996 Likerdup@aol.com wrote:

> Rover.  I just bought my '87 RR and it has 205/65/16s and I wanted to upgrade
> to something bigger, without changing wheel size or making any modifications
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 9 lines)]
> 1987 Range Rover
> Caspian Blue

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From: Chris_Browne@US014-BOSTON-MINET.CCMAIL.CompuServe.COM
Date: 21 Jun 96 13:51:30 EDT
Subject: Hello out there!

     testing testing testing

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Date: Thu, 20 Jun 96 10:22:13 MET DST
From: 20-Jun-1996 0917 <heslop@mugger.enet.dec.com>
Subject: RE: RR radio another question

Thanks to the eight people who mailed me with suggestions on how to reset the
Range Rover badged Clarion radio after an incorrect code entry. The most
popular suggestion was pressing the BND button until it cleared. Other
suggestion included leaving powered on for an hour and disconnecting the
battery for a few minutes.

Unfortunately it didn't respond, so I had to pay to have the microprocessor
reset.

Thanks,

Brian

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Date: 18 Jun 96 12:41:10 EDT
From: Bob Watson <70640.1025@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Web Site Update

See photos of my latest adventures on my web-site!
    _____
   /|__|_\__(|                           Bob Watson
  |   |   |  \                 a-robw@microsoft.com
  |---|___|___\____      Mountlake Terrace, WA, USA 
  |~~_|=  |=  |o_  }\                
 [|_/_ \__|___|/_\_}|    '95 Beluga Black Discovery
    \_/        \_/                            N7UMU
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/rbwatson/

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Date: 18 Jun 96 12:41:16 EDT
From: Bob Watson <70640.1025@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: 20th Annual All British Field Meet

Labor Day Weekend, August 30, 31 & September 1, 1996!!! Bring your British cars
and motorcycles. Join OVER 500 other British vehicle owners to share you
interests with other enthusiasts. Replica cars made in England with British
components (e.g. Panther) and specialty cars with British chassis and running
gear (e.g. Arkley) are welcome, as are British bodied cars with U.S. engines,
including conversion. The latter may not be eligible for judging, however

This Year we welcome the 1996 Lotus National Convention participants by helping
to celebrate 30 years of the Lotus Europa. If you would like to participate in
the Lotus National Convention as well as the ABFM, contact Dave Alford
503-635-6199 or Jim McVein 360-254-2512 or e-mail jimm@telepoort.com for further
details and a LNC registration form. Deadline for registering for the Lotus
National Convention is July 15, 1996. We are also honoring 100 years of the
BRITISH AUTO INDUSTRY with a salute to Daimler, the oldest British marque. See
what may well be the biggest most expensive convertible -- the Hooper-bodied
"Green Goddess".

NOTE: DO NOT use this form if you are registering for the Lotus Convention.
Convention registrants are AUTOMATICALLY registered for the ABFM

PRE REGISTRATIONS -- Only registrations received by August 10, 1996 will have
reserved space on the field in thier class. They will receive a complementary
dasy plaque, a FREE swap meet or car for sale space, a chance to have a photo of
their car in the souvenir program and the opportunity to buy the limited edition
regalia.

LATE REGISTRATIONS -- (Received August 11 through August 28) will receive the
benefits of  pre-registration but wil not be able to purchase limited edition
regalia nor will htey have their car photo appear in the program.

DAY-OF-MEET REGISTRATIONS -- [Friday evening at the cocktail party, August 30
and Saturday morning ('til noon), August 31 at PIR] Vehicles registered at thei
time will be eligible for DISPLAY ONLY parking and Peoples' Choice balloting.
Dash plaques will be on sale in the regalia tent.

CAR WASH FACILITIES are available near the conecesison stand at PIR. Bring your
own supplies.

SWAP MEET (SUNDAY - only). A swap meet "vending space" or a "car for sale space"
is free with your 1st car entry registration, BUT ONLY if it is so indicated in
the appropriate box on the registration form and received before August 10,
1996. Request for space after this data requires payment of the standard swap
meet fee of $30. Swap meet spaces are available for non-car entrants at $30.00
each. Gate will open at 8 am, Sunday. (You may request an early swap meet
move-in for Saturday pm. when you reserve.)

PHOTO CONCOURS -- Bring you photos to the cocktail party Friday night by 7:45.
Awards will be presneted at 9:30 pm for the best B/W and color in four
categories: Portrait, Humorous, Action and past ABFM's. On the back off the
photo include: name, phone, category, location and year. Optinal: title, film
and camera details. Digitally manipulated/altered prints not accepted. Call
Jo-Lyn Dow, 503-656-1471 for further information.

SOUVENIR PROGRAM -- If we receive a photo of your car or bike wiht yout
pre-registration by August 10, 1996, it can be included in the souvenir program.
Pleas label your photo(s) with your name and address on the back so it/they can
be returned to you in your packet. DEADLINE: No later than August 19, 1996.

PROGRAM ADVERTISING Contact Tom Godwin (503) 728-3477 for deratils and rates.
TThe program is an ideal way to target your specific market of British car
enthusiasts.

Registration information: 503-452-9918

SCHEDULE OF EVENTS

- Friday, August 30, 1996: COCKTAIL PARTY
For Registered Entrants Only 7:30 to 10 pm.
Red Lion Hotel Lloyd Center - 1999 N.E. Multnomah St. Portland

	PICK UP PACKETS - DAY-OF-MEET REGISTRATIONS
	PHOTO CONCOURS - FINGER FOOD - NO-HOST-BAR

Pre-registration packets and pre-ordered regalia, as well as registration forms
may be pciked up Friday, August 30, 1996 at the cocktail party in the Red Lion
from 7:30 until 10 pm. All those who did not receive their pre-registration
confirmations by mail are encouraged to stop by Friday night and avoud the
pressures of on-the-field confirmations OR registrations. Besides, it's a
perfect time to meet old chums and make new ones. Bring your favorite car photos
for the photo concours.

- Saturday, August 31, 1996: P.I.R. Gates open at 8:00 am.

- Placement of PRE-REGISTERED cars and bikes ONLY on the filed from 8 am until
10 am. (Pre-registered cars have their space reserved only until 10 am.)
- Placement of Daoy-of-the-Meet Entered vehicles after 10 am (Jaguar cars are
NOT ELIGIBLE for courcours judging.) 
- LandRover Off-Road Jungle Course from 10am to 3 pm. Ride in on of our
LndRovers over specially prepared terrain! Compliments of Land Rover of
Portland.
- British Vehicle Display and Show on the grass, Noon -- National points Jaguar
Coucours, People's Choice voding for all classes.
- Entertainment on the field starting at 1pm.
- People's Choice Awards presented on the field at 3 pm.

Note: Camping is allowed at the PIR facility, but gates will close Friday &
Saturday at midnight. No "For Sale" sogns of any kind will be allowed Saturday
on the judging field. No trailers or support vehicles in the display area after
10 am Saturday, and vehicles may not leave the display area until 4 pm that day.

- Sunday, September 1, 1996: P.I.R. Gates open at 8:00 am

- Swap Meet Opens - 8 am.
- British Vehicles for Sale in the Swap Meet Area - 8 am to 3:30 pm.
Pre-registration must be received by August 10, 1996 (for free space with your
car registration -- $20 with bike registration) or the standard swap meet fee of
$30 will be required.
 - Giant Slalom - 9 am to 3:30 pm. Slalom registration open at 8 am & closes at
12:30 pm. Eight classes are designed to equalize all vehicles. A Release of
Liability form, helmets, and seat belts are requried. A limited number of
helmets will be available. Participating vehicles are subject to a safety, noise
and technical inspections.
- LandRover Off-Road Jungle Course from 10 am to 3 pm. Ride on one of our
LandRovers or drive your own! Traverse specially prepared terrain! Compliments
of Land Rover of Portland.
- Portland Bridges Rallye: Registration from 8:30 - 9am. First car out at 9. The
rallye will be starting from the front gate at P.I.R. Designed to be interesting
for all, from novice to pro! Trophies will be awarded for British cars.
 - Awars Presentations - 4 pm under the Goodyear Tower. All of Sunday's awards
and trophies will be presented at this time.

NOTE: PIR gates close at 5:30 pm. NO vehicles left on PIR property after that
time.

Directions to PIR: Located at West Delta Park, south of the Columbia River off
I-5 in Portland, Oregon. From I-5, take exit 306B to the stop sign, go west to
P.I.R entrance.

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Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:10:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: Chris Haslam <haslam@alcor.concordia.ca>
Subject: No digests!

Has the list died?

...chris

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Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 22:18:35 -0700
From: gpool@pacific.net (Granville Pool)
Subject: Discovering Body Rot

Discovery owners and those who would be,

I've always figured that body rot in a Land-Rover is mostly limited to the
few steel parts, particularly the bulkhead and floorboards on Series
Land-Rovers and the steel inner body panels and tailgate on the Range Rover.
I don't believe that I'd heard anything about body rot problem on a
Discovery.  I'd heard that in areas where the roads are salted that you can
have electrolysis of the aluminum parts where they join the steel parts
(again, on a Series LR).  

But is seems that you can have holes rot right through the aluminum body
panels on a Discovery, at least on a two-door, due to trapped mud which
stays wet.  Check out this URL for a photo of what can happen:

    http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/pbrad/disco.htm

If you have a Discovery, it might be well to check out what you can do to
flush out your hidden crevices where mud might accumulate.

Don't get me wrong!  I still want a Range Rover or Discovery one of these
days but will first take a close look under the skin!

Cheers,

Granny

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Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:54:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Antram <rewt@sover.net>
Subject: Mercedes seat switches

	Most 300D's have the same seat switches as used in the exchange 
mentioned previously, my in-laws have both an RR and the benz. The RR's 
switches have been worked on 3 or 4 times; the benz: never. Might be a 
very wise switch for people in dusty/dirty places. We also found that 
volvo window switches are prone to grit-death last night - also mounted 
flat. It seems a very common problem. A little contact cleaner goes a long 
way.

John Antram	rewt@sover.net     RR 3 Box 888 Middlebury, VT  05753
Membership coordinator, "Green Mountain Rover Association"
1972 Land Rover Series III 88", sunrooves (badly improvised by PO), Red
1995 Land Rover Discovery, 5-speed, sunrooves, Roman Bronze
1987 Mercedes-Benz 300SDL, Anthracite Gray

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Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 06:12:23 -0700
From: cascardo@ix.netcom.com (Lucas Andres Cascardo)
Subject: subscribe

subscribe

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From: Jim Pappas <roverhed@m3.pcix.com>
Subject: Misc.
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 23:12:28 -0400

The 1996 BSROA Pilgrimage Tour was a great success...
Ten members from the U.S. arrived (all on different flights!!) and were =
ultimately joined by members Andrew Cutting and Clive M. Smith.

Some of us spent the first day driving to the National site and stopping =
off for an eye-opening tour of the Dunsfold Land Rover Museum! Talk =
about amazing history sitting in front of you! My big treat was an offer =
by Philip Bashall to drive #1 production Lightweight (!!) to the rally =
site - *if it wouldn't be too much trouble* Does a bear dump in the =
woods? I thought I was dreaming... Thanks so much, Mr. Bashall! It was a =
real treat! What a beautiful Land Rover! The stuff he had in the main =
barn was beyond reality. Floatation Rover, prototype 2A V8 (Goldenrod), =
VELAR, 100-inch prototype, #1 2A, prototype new Range Rover, Militar, =
Pink Panther (one green - one pink), prototype 101, Lama prototype, and =
more wonderful stuff!!! He let me look at his parts loft. I fainted. =
Some stuff up there he asked me not to make public! Well, my word is my =
bond! Go see for yourself.

The ARC rally was very wet and very muddy. The weather was not kind to =
us this year but it was expected. Dunsfold had several vehicles on =
display. The various series clubs were on hand. Someone was even there =
driving a Land Rover Centaur!!! I had never seen one of these =
*fictional* vehicles before. And here it was in the flesh! Pictures of =
same will appear in upcoming Rover Reference coverage of the event.

Hooked up with David Bowyer and off we went for a four-day escape to =
Wales - David refers to these trips as *secret Wales* I called it *Lost =
Wales!* Hundreds of miles of byways and muddy tracks were crossed over =
the next three days. All types of terrain - mud, rock, river crossings! =
Scenery was breath-taking. The photos don't do it justice! Thanks to =
Barry Enis for doing video duties this year.

And thanks to David Bowyer for providing a very well-organized tour of =
Wales with his much-known D90 V8 Station Wagon being the point car. The =
BSROA has used David twice now, and I can wholehartedly recommend him =
and his school and his tours of Wales and France! Well done, David!

Next year's ARC will also take place in Northern Wales - a different =
part of the country. Planning is already underway for this event and =
possible off-roading at David Mitchell's spread in Bala.

Thanks to LRO and Nick Dimbleby for the group photo which I hope will =
see print in an upcoming issue of LRO...

cheers
Jim - being slowly consumed by Rover madness...

`67 2A 88 5.0L hybrid
`67 2A 109 5.0L hybrid
`67 2A lightweight
`68 2B 110 F/C diesel
`70 P6B 3500S
`90 Range Rover County
`93 NAS D110 (#457/500)
`95 NAS D90 #1958
`96 Disco - on order (for Shotgun!! - dumped the Dodge!) Nothing but =
Rovers now!!! Yipes!

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From: Sanna@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:20:29 -0400
Subject: Annabelle Gets Deep 6'd

Well, in the recent flash floods here in the Midwest, Annabelle, my '89 
RR, got deep 6'd in about that much water.  She's over at the RR dealer 
in Milwaukee now, and they've written her off as totaled (engine seized, 
ECU & all electronics gone, seats ruined, etc.).  So as soon as I settle 
up with the insurance co. I'll be in the market for another RR.

My question to all you RRoverites is what, in your opinion, is a good 
year.  There are some clean '90's around at a good price, and I just 
talked to Lanny at RN and he's got 2 '91's for sale.  I haven't seen any 
'92's, but there are some '93's on the market.  

Did sway bars come in the '90's, or was that '91 when they were 
introduced?  The handling of my '89 was the most annoying problem.

Oh yes, and here's a bit of advice to all of you....  When you see the 
water just below the driver's window, never, NEVER, open the door.

Tony

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Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 18:44:49 -0500
From: arustom@interaccess.com (Albert B. Rustom)
Subject: RR '90

Hello to all,

I recently bought a '90 RR and I'm planning to install the winch and a pair
of fog lights. 

If anybody from this group can help me to obtain info: on these
accessories, made by who and where can be purchased.

Any info: will be appreciated.
Albert B. Rustom
Sherman Electronics Corporation
5999 New Wilke Road, Suite # 108
Rolling Meadows, IL 60008
Voice: 847 290-0726
Fax  : 847 290-0728
e-mail: arustom@interaccess.com

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Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 11:46:16 -0400
From: Craig Jett <cjett@voicenet.com>

who rro

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Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 06:53:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: vandecar@nwlink.com (Van Decar)
Subject: Where is the digest?

What has happened to the cso digest?  Last seen June 11.

Warm regards,

Ted Van Decar
Bellevue, Washington        

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From: "Robert Watson (CNA)" <a-robw@MICROSOFT.com>
Subject: The "Leak of the Week"
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:14:05 -0700

I guess, as a British Car owner, I'll eventually have to get used to it.
But until it goes off warranty, I'll just keep taking it to the dealer.
Today's "Leak of the Week" comes from the Trans-cooling line (the lower
one, with the temp sensor) where it attaches to the Radiator. I don't
know what motivated it to leak,  it's just started leaking. (needs a new
fluid line.) 

Also, while I had it at the dealer (where everyone greets me by name, so
either I've been there too often, or they are very good at remembering
names) I had the lead technician, listen to my "camshaft rattle" and he
said that all the 3.9's did that to some extent and that they could fix
it by a) adding a nylon button to the end of the camshaft (the cheap
way) or b) machine a spacer to make it fit right  (the right way) or c)
replace the camshaft & lifters (sounded like the expensive way)
depending on the engine type. In any case it's scheduled for a
"overnighter" next week to have all this looked after. 
    _____
   /|__|_\__(|                           Bob Watson
  |   |   |  \                 a-robw@microsoft.com
  |---|___|___\____      Mountlake Terrace, WA, USA 
  |~~_|=  |=  |o_  }\                
 [|_/_ \__|___|/_\_}|    '95 Beluga Black Discovery
    \_/        \_/                "Willy the Whale"
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/rbwatson/

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Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:58:11 -0400
From: Gary Mitchelson <garym@cais.cais.com>
Subject: Free HP and Torque in Discovery?

Pardon me if this was covered before and I missed it. But somehow I got
"unsubscribed" from the list.

I just received the Rovers North spring newsletter and there was a story in
there about more power for the Discovery (and others) from Borla R&D. With
their new exhaust system and other tweaks they got 19.8 more horsepower and
32.5 more ft/lbs of torque.

But the article claims that by simply bumping the timing from 6BTDC to 12
BTDC they got +10.4 HP and +25.7 ft/lbs of torque.

Since I don't have a shop manual (yet) how difficult is this and do I need
any special  equipment? It does say that the timing is controlled in the RR
by the ECU prom. What about the Discovery 1995?

I live in Maryland and we have emmission testing, how will this effect that?

Gary Mitchelson
Racal Recorders, Inc.
garym@racalrecord.com   -or-
gary_mitchelson@usa.racal.com   Work
N3JPU

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Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 14:03:27 -0400
From: Gary Mitchelson <garym@cais.cais.com>
Subject: Discovery leaks & other problems

Here is a follow-up on my 1995 Discovery with 22500 miles. This is the first
time it has been to the shop for any problems. It is still there with one
problem.

*A water leak from rain that forms a puddle on the front passanger floor
mat, it *originates from under the dash.

A leak around the cowl was sealed.

*A loud wistle from the engine, sounds like a manifold leak, that is worse
as the engine *drops in revs.

A leak in the intake manifold gasket. Gasket is being replaced over the weekend.

*The rear door window and one rear side window rubber gasket is cracking and
shrinking *at the corners.

Rubber molding for both windows on order. It will be replaced by a glass
sub-contractor.

The only problem with all this is that the dealer has put me in a
Pathfinder. It is a piece of crap at 23000 miles.

Gary Mitchelson
Racal Recorders, Inc.
garym@racalrecord.com   -or-
gary_mitchelson@usa.racal.com   Work
N3JPU

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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:56:14 -0500
From: arustom@interaccess.com (Albert B. Rustom)
Subject: RR '90

Hello to all,

I recently bought a '90 RR and I'm planning to install the winch and a pair
of fog lights. 

If anybody from this group can help me to obtain info: on these
accessories, made by who and where can be purchased.

Any info: will be appreciated.
Albert B. Rustom
Sherman Electronics Corporation
5999 New Wilke Road, Suite # 108
Rolling Meadows, IL 60008
Voice: 847 290-0726
Fax  : 847 290-0728
e-mail: arustom@interaccess.com

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Date: 11 Jun 96 13:27:50 EDT
From: Bob Watson <70640.1025@compuserve.com>
Subject: Web site & the Disco gets a name!

I've updated my "homepage" with some photos from a 4-wheeling trip I took last
weekend. There's a couple more "gonzo" shots of the Disco "in action".

Last weekend I went camping on a trip that was really a J**p outing i.e. I was
the ONLY LR in the group, though we did see one other Disco on the forest roads.
I went on a couple of the J**p trails and it was there that my Disco was named.
As the jeep CJ-5's went winding through the trees, I kept hearing in the CB
"Better send the Disco around, this is pretty tight!" "Where's that Disco
anyway?" "Oh, it's right behind me, never mind!" So after a couple of these
exchanges, they gave up! I got a kick out of how they kept calling it a
"Defender" (I wish!) The other "jeeper"s in the group had their heart in the
right place..."Your Disco might get scratched on this part" (oh yeah? what's
your point?)

Anyway, back to the name. Imagine my big black disco, complete with Thule
Roof-top box & light bar, lumbering though the woods on these narrow jeep trails
squeezing between trees. In the forest, the Discovery had the "grace" of a whale
as it plowed through the tree branches, so I named it (him?) "Willy" as in
"Willy the Whale" from the Disney cartoon.

Gotta go and buff out those tree marks on "willy"!
 __________________       _____
/   ____    ___    \     /___|_\__(|
|  |____|  |   |   |    |   |   |  \
|          |_  |   |    |---|___|___\____
|     ___  |   |   |    |~~_|=  |=  |o_  }\
\____/ _ \_|___|___|--+[|_/_ \__|___|/_\_}|
      \_/                 \_/        \_/
1995 Beluga Black Discovery

Bob Watson <a-robw@microsoft.com> Mountlake Terrace, WA
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/rbwatson/

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Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:10:06 -0500
From: Shaun Carrigan <shaunc@infi.net>
Subject: list down?

Is the list down again?

Shaun Carrigan
'88 RR

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Date: Thu, 13 Jun 96 13:38:00 EST
From: James Carley <carley@manly.civeng.unsw.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Rangie diffs

At 12:54 11/06/96 +0200, Franz wrote:
>Hello gang,
>sorry for crossposting this to the series list, but there may be
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
>crawling ability much. 
>Just in case I come across a shot Rangie at the junk yard.

Unless your 110 is non standard, the diff ratio is the same as RR (3.54:1).
Additionally the 110 rear end uses a salisbury setup which is far more 
heavy duty than the rover type used on both ends of the RR and front end
of 110.  

I know that in Australia, 1980's (pre defender) 110 diesels (which used a 
3.9 L Isuzu) had a different (taller) high ratio in the transfer case than
the V8 petrols. I'm sure all those British engineering type places which
advertise in Land Rover Intl could advise.

James Carley
Sydney, Australia
'85 110

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Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 21:10:12 -0400
From: Gary Mitchelson <garym@cais.cais.com>
Subject: Free HP and Torque in Discovery?

Pardon me if this was covered before and I missed it.

I just received the Rovers North spring newsletter and there was a story in
there about more power for the Discovery (and others) from Borla R&D. With
their new exhaust system and other tweaks they got 19.8 more horsepower and
32.5 more ft/lbs of torque.

But the article claims that by simply bumping the timing from 6BTDC to 12
BTDC they got +10.4 HP and +25.7 ft/lbs of torque.

Since I don't have a shop manual (yet) how difficult is this and do I need
any special  equipment?

I live in Maryland and we have emmission testing, how will this effect that?

Gary Mitchelson
Racal Recorders, Inc.
garym@racalrecord.com   -or-
gary_mitchelson@usa.racal.com   Work
N3JPU

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From: Matthew Loxton <matthewl@dinet.co.za>
Subject: Disco 3rd gear synchro problem
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 12:01:56 +-200

Has anyone heard of a problem with 3rd gear synchromesh which =
deteriorates after aprox one year?Supposedly Land Rover are aware of =
this problem but it is not known if they have fixed it.

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From: "Tom Walsh" <tomw@best.com>
Date:          Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:38:51 +0000
Subject:       Re: Web site & the Disco gets a name!

Now you gotta paint those white kller whale stripes on him!

Tomw, ( maybe you can feed him fish instead of premium unleaded, I 
        know that would be cheaper than gas here in the bay area ! :)

> so I named it (him?) "Willy" as in
> "Willy the Whale" from the Disney cartoon.
> Gotta go and buff out those tree marks on "willy"!

---------*---------*---------*---------*---------*---------*
                       Fluent Networks
             "Intelligent Networking Solutions"
Tom Walsh, Founder, VP Technology/Engineering
tomw@netcom.com soon to be tomw@fluentnet.com
http://www.fluentnet.com
95 LR Disco "The Light Brigade"
#include <std_disclaim.h>
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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 14:38:16 -0500
From: Shaun Carrigan <shaunc@infi.net>
Subject: Re: replace the cat conv./ ac fan bushings 

> LRs are consistent.  That slight rattle I've been hearing has gotten a bit
> louder and I knew just what it was.  I took it to the dealer to confirm my
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 15 lines)]
> William
> 90 RR

William,

Sorry to hear of your problems. FYI, Atlantic British charges $399.95 
for a cat converter and $219.95 for an AC blower.

I now have a workshop manual if you would like to consider doing these 
jobs yourself or taking it to less expensive repair shop.

My AC blower has squeaked since at least last summer. I suggest turning 
up the radio or opening the sun roof. But you've got me thinking... I'm 
going to look in the manual to see how hard it is to access the blower. 
A little lubrication might do the trick. Or, maybe there's an 
inexpensive NAPA replacement. Worth checking.

Shaun
'88 RR

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Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 00:20:31 -0500
From: Jeff & Laura Kessler <lmkessler@srnet.com>
Subject: LR articles

ROAD & TRACK's occassional SUV magazine, OPEN ROAD, latest issue has 2 LR
articles.

A comparison test between the D90 SW and the new Jeep for the coil list and
an article on the 1948 LR No. 1 for the leaf list.

My favorite thing about the ROAD & TRACK/OPEN ROAD road test is the test
data sheets.  They often provide a nice profile line drawing of the vehicle
showing engine, seating, etc locations in the vehicles.  Nice pictures here too.

(Too bad AUTOCAR stopped doing profiles drawings some years ago, their tests
just seem lacking.)

Oh... I almost forgot!  The summer 1996 issue of OPEN ROAD also has a 4 page
write up on the 87-95 RR>  Buying, cost of repair, what to look for...that
kind of article.  Like we don't already know.

Jeff Kessler
1988 Range Rover
Newport NH USA   603-863-7883

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From: Chris_Browne@US014-BOSTON-MINET.CCMAIL.CompuServe.COM
Date: 11 Jun 96 14:50:19 EDT
Subject: Disco CD Changer installation

     Hi all
     After last months very successful 15k service, I treated my 
     Discovery to a LR CD changer. Installing this has to be the 
     easiest thing in the world. Less than 10 minutes to do! Actually 
     its so easy it may not even take you ten minutes because you 
     could get your kid to do it for you. All it takes is a phillips 
     screwdriver and a 10mm spanner (but that is optional IMHO). 
     The sounds is awesome and noise level high enough to blast your 
     eardrums. I loaded up a bunch of cd to test the unit and put a 
     very quiet classical cd just before REM's Monster (?)album, and 
     was really surprised when the first track ("Whats the frequency 
     Kenneth") came on and just about blasted me into orbit! He He!
     Oddly enough I haven't listened to the radio since.... Maybe that 
     says something.
     regards
     Chris Browne

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Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 07:17:19 -0500
From: Jeff & Laura Kessler <lmkessler@srnet.com>
Subject: List down?

Hello!

Is the list down, I have not received anything for a day now.

Jeff Kessler
1988 Range Rover
Newport NH USA   603-863-7883

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Date: 11 Jun 96 13:27:47 EDT
From: Bob Watson <70640.1025@compuserve.com>
Subject: Discovery Trailer Wiring

Below is the wiring of the trailer wiring connector hidden 
behind the right rear jump seat in the back of the Discovery.
There's a small access panel on the rear plastic trim piece
that allows some access to this connector and the trailer 
wires go through the body in a pre-punched and capped hole in
the floor. 

NOTE: Be sure to seal this hole VERY WELL after you've run
the wires through it and BEFORE you get it wet!!!

There is 1 round connector with a rubber cap on it and 2 loose
wires that are terminated in crimp terminal that have to do
with the trailer wiring. (p.s. If someone with the electrical 
schematics could verify this I'd be more comfortable!)

Yel = Yellow, Grn = Green, Vio = Violet
Wht = White, Org = Orange
Round Connector:
----------------
Red/Yel - GROUND
Black	- GROUND
Grn/Red	- Left Turn Lamp
Grn/Wht	- Right Turn Lamp
Grn/Vio	- Brake
Red/Blk	- GROUND
Red/Org - Tail lights (that come on with the head lights)

Loose Wires:
------------
Grn/Brn - Reverse Lamps
Vio/Brn	- +12V from Car Battery

For wiring a "Flat-4" american trailer I bought a 
"Euro-Car" to Flat-4 adapter box and mounted it inside
the trim piece that hides all this wiring and ran the
"flat-4" wires through the hole in the floor to the
back of the car where the trailer hitch receiver is.
The Euro adapter has 3 wires in (L-Turn, R-Turn & Brake)
and 2 out (L & R Signal) so I wired:

"Euro box" - in
L-Turn	to Disco Grn/Red
R-Turn  to Disco Grn/Wht
Brake   to Disco Grn/Vio

"Euro box" - out
R-signal to Flat-4 Yellow
L-signal to Flat-4 Green

The tail light wire bypasses the adapter
Disco Red/Org to Flat-4 Brown
Ground to Flat-4 White

-- Bob Watson
'95 Discovery

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From: PZavaletta@aol.com
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 07:49:40 -0400
Subject: Subscribe

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From: Defendr90@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 18:47:43 -0400
Subject: Range Rover overheating/generic 3.9L water pump

Has anyone experienced an intermittent overheating problem with a 3.9L. I've
checked the thermostat, the radiator flow, upper & lower radiator hoses, and
the water pump with no success. Someone mentioned that the distributor may be
overadvancing, creating detonation, leading to excessive heat. Any ideas?

While on the subject of cooling systems, does anyone have a generic water
pump, or another inexpensive solution to water pump failure.

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Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 20:24:12 -0400
From: Richard Ruffer <rruffer@interserv.com>
Subject: Defender Window Sticker

In Camel Trophy pictures I saw the Defenders with front windshield 
stickers that said "Defender" with an LR oval. Does anyone know where to 
get these? I just received two new parts--a surrey top (no more wet/hot 
butt) and a convex side mirror. The surrey came from Europarts on Long 
Island (www.europartsltd.com). They had the best price I could find 
($257) and gave me great service. The convex mirror came from RN. Its 
field of view is much better than the stock mirror, not that I spend too 
much time in the left lane ;-)  Great to have the list back.

Rich Ruffer
Morristown, NJ
rruffer@interserv.com
'94 D90 #634

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