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Date: 14 Mar 97 10:54:42 EST
From: Chris Marsden <100620.2156@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Obstruction to UCR
Hi all,
I have spoken to Police today, 6 weeks after reporting an obstruction to a UCR.
SO4442. They have a "policy decision" to make on who should prosecute for
obstructions: bollards, damaging surface, depositing dung etc. There are several
agencies that can bring a criminal prosecution.
I asked if it was a policy on IF to prosecute, "Oh No! I'm sure you wouldnt let
us do that". (He has been taliking with the CC!)
Has submitted a 5 page report to the Force Solicitor, and would I mind waiting
about 2 more weeks before using the road. I said I probably would not wait,
shall I inform you before using? He said yes, and speak to the Highways
department first as well.
Patience, or don't use and lose?
Any advice?
Chris
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Date: 14 Mar 97 10:54:51 EST
From: Chris Marsden <100620.2156@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: List operation.
Morning all.
It does not seem like just two weeks that the RoW List has been running. There
has been many favourable comments about the List, several people interested in,
but unaware how to get started on RoW work, and it has been a means of
spreading more widlely the gems of wisdom from the most experienced in the UK.
I am fairly new to RoW (but I had to jump in with both feet) and to the
operation of a list, but I guess several others are as well. So a note about the
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 97 08:28 GMT0
From: srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk (Stephen Rawlings)
Subject: Re: Shrops Lanes Info.
True enough Tim, but it is important that any database has the
flexibility to deal with and record, any alternative present recording
sysyem in use within a CC or DC level.
The problem with the Shrops TRF system was that there was no cross
reference to the CC numberings which did lead to confusion sometimes:-) I
was starting to make alterations but finished the ROW job long before the
task was completed. A computer database will be far easier to use and log
data into. Now all we need is some of those nice OS maps on the database
as well. We have some very nice mapping software on the Farm these days,
just ripe for this task!
Steve Rawlings
-------- Original Message --------
>From TimLARA@aol.com Thu Mar 13 21:50:40 1997
tom.compulink.co.uk (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA18885; Thu, 13 Mar
1997 21:50:40 GMT
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:48:59 -0500 (EST)
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Subject: Re: Shrops Lanes Info.
From: TimLARA@aol.com
The problem with having a system that relies on authority numbers is that
they are liable to change due to:
i. changes in status, RUPP > BOAT, Bridleway > BOAT, etc.
ii. changes in authority - reorganisation, Unitary, boundary shifts, etc.
And there is no need to tell anyone what the new numbers are or what they
relate to.
Also, SCC might label routes by parish, but others don't, and it is best
to
have a system which is as nationally uniform as possible.
Of course, the record ought to note what the authority number is, but we
should not rely on it.
Cheers, tim
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From: TimLARA@aol.com
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 17:07:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Obstruction to UCR
Justice delayed is justice denied.
But I am forgetting. The police is not about justice, but about making sure
that the poor, who cannot afford solicitors, get nicked, while the rich, who
can afford large contributions to the Benevolent Fund, are advised of the
consequences of being found out.
Cheers, cynically as ever, tim
PS I walked the best part of Moelfre City today from both ends, and I cannot
see what the fuss is about.
cheers, tim
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 97 20:30 GMT0
From: srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk (Stephen Rawlings)
Subject: Re: List operation.
Well done Chris.
Trouble is, the list is generating so much mail it is hard to follow a
thread as the replies are not linked. I suspect that after a while, the
list may generate enough interest to warrant a moderated .rec.uk
newsgroup. It would improve "discussion" in a more organised fashion.
Those here from CIS or Cix will know what I mean. Not a criticism at all,
just my 2 pennyworth.
Steve Rawlings
-------- Original Message --------
>From 100620.2156@CompuServe.COM Fri Mar 14 16:07:27 1997
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1997 16:07:27 GMT
[149.174.177.134])
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Date: 14 Mar 97 10:54:51 EST
From: Chris Marsden <100620.2156@CompuServe.COM>
Cc: Andy Bush <101351.1733@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: List operation.
Message-ID: <970314155451_100620.2156_BHL138-3@CompuServe.COM>
Morning all.
It does not seem like just two weeks that the RoW List has been running.
There
has been many favourable comments about the List, several people
interested in,
but unaware how to get started on RoW work, and it has been a means of
spreading more widlely the gems of wisdom from the most experienced in
the UK.
I am fairly new to RoW (but I had to jump in with both feet) and to the
operation of a list, but I guess several others are as well. So a note
about the
operation may help, if you have not previously subscribed to any other
lists.
OPERATION
All commands to the computer that controls list distribution must be
addressed
to:-
Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net
The subject line is not read, so use it for your reference puposes only.
The commands must be in the body of the text, other words are rejected.
If you are going away from your PC for a few weeks, please "unsubscribe"
to save
your mailbox becoming full, and returning an error message to everyone
posting
to the list.
Re-subscribing is easy. (For a short while, until the question of the
list
being "open" to anyone had been debated, membership was restricted and
had to be
approved, it is now fully open to anyone to join, ie subscribe themselves
to the
list.)
The List has been made available by Bill Caloccia from the Sates, after
his
recent visit to the UK and green lane expeditions. It uses an automatic
mailing list manager, written by Brent Chapman, called Majordomo, and is
provided courtesy of the owners of the Land Rover Owners list, thus this
is part
of the address. It is in no way restricted to LandRover owners or indeed
Four
Wheel Drive vehicles, or vehicles at all. It is for those who wish to be
able to
"Rove over Land" on Ancient Highways and Byways, - OR on ways that
should be
Highways!
To reply to an *individual* who posted a message, just hit reply, but if
the
response will be of general interest please post to the list as below. If
you
post to the list, please delete the individual's address - otherwise they
end up
with two copies. You will of course see your own posting come back over
the list
as well.
When *first* posting to the List, a brief note of your geographic
location,
interests, transport mode, club(s) and any posts held would be
appreciated.
To SUBSCRIBE to the List please send a message to:-
Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net
Subject:- Field not relevant.
Content:- Subscribe RoW
TO STOP MESSAGES, i.e. holidays etc, as above, but content reads:-
Unsubscribe RoW
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with, if
you have an alternative, i.e. Compuserve can be either numeric or name)
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who RoW
As an alternative to receiving messages throughout the day (and night),
if you
prefer you may have the list presented once a day in "digest" form. (with
this
incoming message "excerpts" returned are trunkated to about 9 lines).
To SUBSCRIBE to the "DIGEST" List please send a message as above:-
Subscribe RoW Digest
(I believe you may have to send an "unsubscribe" message to stop the real
time
distribution, otherwise you may get both, if already subscribed)
It is also possible to retrieve DIGESTed copy of an earlier days file.
(Useful
if you accidently delete a message, or unsubscribed whist away, want to
see what
went on before you joined etc) This is only available to people who have
subscribed.
TO RETRIEVE ARCHIVED DAILY MESSAGES send:-
get RoW YYMMDD
i.e. to see all the messages for the 6th March 1997 : get RoW 970306
This
will give the brief index to the days messages i.e. :-
1 central4x4@zetnet. Wed Mar 5 02:11 65/2833 Re: Open or closed
list?
2 ukpad@software-ag. Wed Mar 5 02:19 70/2612 RE: Open or closed
list?
3 Tilbo@aol.com Wed Mar 5 03:53 41/1763 Bucklebury 64 &
other Ber
4 TimLARA@aol.com Wed Mar 5 05:50 48/2421 Open or closed -
lane det
5 TimLARA@aol.com Wed Mar 5 07:39 29/1207 Re: Dunlop-Masters
Axis,
6 Mike@mikecat.demon Wed Mar 5 12:46 45/1729 Re: LARA response re
s116
followed by the messages in detail. (If you want to have only the days
index to
contributors without the detail send : get RoW 970306.toc )
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<list>.
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But *not* messages about list management etc. (I know, we all do it!)
ACTIVITY ON THE LIST.
Please advise via the list if you prefer more or less postings. I.E.
Urgent and
important messages only, or a fuller update on what has been happening in
your
area. Most comment, with one exception, has been for more, but it is your
list,
let's know.
Obviously subject title is important to find any stored items, and *brief*
excerpts along with an opening comment like "Fred said" help to pick up
on-going
threads. (Steve Reddock may get away with "Fred muttered something along
the
lines of: " on the UK-LRO list, but really...........)
Hope this helps
Chris
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