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From: "Seymour, Gareth" <GSeymour@mp.sihe.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: TRO's Map 135, Aberystwyth.
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 97 08:57:00 PST
This looks like a reply to an earlier item. I do not have a copy of the
original email. Was it sent out some time ago ????? Any further info
please.....
Many thanks
Gareth
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From: steve-rawlings
Subject: Re: TRO's Map 135, Aberystwyth.
Date: Monday, March 31, 1997 8:59PM
> To: RoW@playground.sun.com
> Subject: Re: TRO's Map 135, Aberystwyth.
> From: TimLARA@aol.com
> The county council - Ceridigion, or in old english, Cardigan - have not
yet
> considered Voluntary Restraint, but this may be because:
> i. They are not aware of Welsh Office Circular 5/93 (same as DoE 2/93)
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> etc.
> I am sure that anyone writing in will be able to remind them of the
relevant
> factors
Dunno why there should be any ignorance whatsoever. The WTRA used to
be reasonably active in that area. I suppose that they have gone the
way of too many competition members with little interest in RoW
beyond Enduro "practice"!
Sad!
steve rawlings
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 04:58:11 -0500
From: Chris Marsden <Byway@compuserve.com>
Subject: Moelfre City proposed TRO
To all,
Ref the note posted early March about a consultation on Moelfre City BOAT.
(SO1275)
This is a fairly long and excellent hill top BOAT, with two little known
UCRs joining it. much of it shows very little use or damage, except where
wet at a couple of streams, and that is not bad. It is seasonal, and has
got better over the last 8 years.
(It has had little mtce and some agrig use.)
They are considering option
3.1 TRO
3.2 VR
3.3 wait for 12 months and see.
Please send any response *by 4/4/97* to Mark Chapman
RoW section
Powys County Hall
Llandrindod Wells
Powys
Chris
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 97 16:16 BST-1
From: srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk (Stephen Rawlings)
Subject: Re: Moelfre City proposed TRO
Chris and others,
Useful to post a fax number with these sort of posts where time is short.
Steve Rawlings
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 12:25:26 -0500
From: Chris Marsden <Byway@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Moelfre City proposed TRO
Steve,
I did post the original 3page letter I got from Powys, perhaps about the
10/3/97? It would have the fax no. on there, but I am in Chesham, (Bucks)
till Friday, so sorry cant help with fax no. now.
Pity these councils do not publish an email address - they might get too
much response?
Chris
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 14:46:43 -0500
From: Donald Scott <Donald_Scott@compuserve.com>
Subject: Dangerous Walks
This was posted a while ago with a date given of 9 april
On checking the TV Times( By my wife) it is tomottow the 2nd april not the
9th
channel 4 9 pm
Don
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From: TimLARA@aol.com
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 15:32:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Moelfre City proposed TRO
In my usual inefficient way I have the file to hand (ie not yet filed).
The fax number for Powys is:
01597 826230
phone : 01597 826000
The routes are:
byways LB615, LB645, LD713f Llanbister
cheers, tim
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 21:20:46 +0100
From: Brian Lewis <brian@limb.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: RUPP Reclass. in Norfolk.
In message <970331172637_1552554850@emout08.mail.aol.com>,
TimLARA@aol.com writes
>I firmly believe that Birketts are wrong, and so is the Inspector in this
>case.
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>bridleway, but very rare.
>Cheers, tim
Hi Tim
Is it for the say County Council to show that there are no vehicular
rightsor the user? and should there be a sign to show that there arn't
if it is a Lane?
bye for now
Brian
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From: TimLARA@aol.com
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 18:09:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: RUPP Reclass. in Norfolk.
Properly speaking, it for any user to be able to show that he had reasonable
grounds to believe that a route he intends to use is a right of way of the
required status, but for the one who wishes to convict to show that there is
no doubt about the lack of rights. The standard of proof for the user is not
high, and I suspect that factors such as 'lots of people use it' and 'I have
been told it is a RoW by someone I have no reason to think is lying' are
enough. All you need do to avoid conviction is to raise reasonable doubt.
Imagine the thoughts of an illiterate gaelic-speaking drover setting off from
Falkirk, Scotland, down over the Cheviots and North Pennines. Did he check
the list of streets before setting off? No, of course he didn't. And when
Trevithick set out with his first self propelled three wheeler on the road in
Cornwall in 1801, was the fact that the road might only be a bridleway, and
so he ought to check, the most prominent in his mind?
What absolute tosh.
Of course, not every long red vehicle with windows down the side and a door
at the back is a bus, is it Mr Burns?
And not every highway engineer who fails to assert and protect my rights is a
cheat and a fraud.
Isn't that right Mr Burns?
Cheers, tim
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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 02:47:33 -0500
From: Chris Marsden <Byway@compuserve.com>
Subject: The alternative database!
John said:
> Virgin have offered me a FREE 10 megabyte Web site any ideas of how or
> what to fill it with.
Yes a big big database, of all the obstructed lanes in the UK.
Nominations please.
Chris
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