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Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 09:48:35 +0100
From: Owen Sayers <central4x4@zetnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Road Rallying on Whites etc (FWD)
In message <Pine.SOL.3.95q.970414124759.5099F-100000@suma3.reading.ac.uk>
John Upham <J.E.Upham@reading.ac.uk> writes:
> > The unsurfaced roads are often in a state where only more rugged vehicles
> > can use them, and that is what they have been like for centuries. Within
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> > consensus.
> Should a BOAT be passable by an ordinary 2wd motor vehicle in law?
> "Open to ALL traffic" seems to suggest this.
I understand what you mean by this, but in the same vein, not all sealed
roads are passable by all types of traffic....motorways have restrictions on
types of vehicular use, other roads have weight limits, height or width
limits or something similar. Sometimes these limits are marked with
prohibitive signs, and sometimes you only find out that your 22 foot
trailer won't go round the hairpin bend until you drive the road. That
is the nature of BOAT's and other lanes also. Whilst there may be a
legal *right* for all traffic, it doesn't mean that the route is
*suitable* for all
traffic.....a subtle distinction I know, but there it is. It is unbelievably
unlikely that any HA would attempt to upgrade any UCR or other road
for the passage of all vehicles. They'll just try to downgrade the status,
and remove the vehicular rights altogether. I know of UCR's which
could be driven quite easily with 2wd cars, and I'm sure these exist
all over the country. It's just a matter of searching them out, and avoiding
the others which require the greater ground clearance/traction of "dual
purpose 4x4" vehicles I'd suggest.
Regards,
Owen
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From: Tilbo@aol.com
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 12:15:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Is the group still working
This is just one piece of mail, sent yesterday, that has come back. Is this
AOL or playground?
Hi
I wrote to a Hampshire Parish seeking opinion on a potential claim. Received
an e-mail from the Chair on the subject and replied with the addition of
another potential. Neither of these are recorded RoW. The latest responce
is as follows:
"Thanks for your e-mail.
The owner of ********* Farm (as far as I know) is Mr *********, who lives
there. I would imagine he doesn't do much farming. He probably has a Farm
Manager. I'll let you know if I discover who it is.
You've whetted my appetite. I must go there as soon as possible!"
Now who says the world is against us?
cyl
DT
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From: Tilbo@aol.com
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 12:16:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Bucklebury 64
Hi Andy
Thanks for the note. 64 is up for TRO due to weak bridge. I wrote asking
why not repair? If TRO then I will s56HA80.
Babtie write:
"Newbury District Council, the Ramblers Association and the All Wheel Drive
Club do not object to the proposed TRO. Bucklebury Parish Council and the
landowners welcome the proposal. No response has been received from the
Brithish Horse Society, the Trail Riders Fellowship and the Hants and Berks
Rover Owners"
I wondered how a group of people so set against the likes of Dunlop, Plumbe,
Mills etc. can acquiesce to a negative proposal in the land of Still?
I seem to be having problems sending to playground - myhhhi leddder keeps a
commin back - b'dum dum dum.
DT
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Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 20:18:47 +0100
From: USER <john.o'reilly@virgin.net>
Subject: Re: Is the group still working
Tilbo@aol.com wrote:
> This is just one piece of mail, sent yesterday, that has come back. Is this
> AOL or playground?
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> cyl
> DT
Hi Dave
I think its still working but it has been very quite fot the past couple
of days.
Chers John
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Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:38:13 -0400
From: Chris Marsden <Byway@compuserve.com>
Subject: Bucklebury 64
Andy, Dave,
I have written to Babtie. They said 10,000 pounds is a lot of money to
spend on a bridge that no one used with vehicles. Why so much ? They
seem to manage with sleepers elsewhere or better still why not ford it?
They didnt rebuild the blown bridge on the Gap did they?
I was surprised to see AWDC did not object. Is this so Andy? who didnt?
What shall I say to Babtie? I do not want them to spend 10k if it really
is not needed, but Still will enjoy the fight, in any case, so it must be
worth it. It would be better to spend 10k on something useful rather than
waste 1,750 on a TRO, fight a S56 then have to spend it in the end.
Chris
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Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:38:14 -0400
From: Chris Marsden <Byway@compuserve.com>
Subject: CLA 4x4
Whilst scanning the Hereford Times for the usual anti 4x4 propagander
today, I spotted something that slipped through the censors.:-
Helping disabled enjoy the country
HELPING to create more opportunities for disabled residents and visitors to
enjoy pursuits in rural areas is the Country Landowners Association
In the summer, the CLA regional secretary! Judith Matthews will be seen at
the wheel of a 4x4 vehicle doing all she can to spear head the region's
contribution to a nationwide Initiatve to provide vital access facilities.
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Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:38:17 -0400
From: Chris Marsden <Byway@compuserve.com>
Subject: Back on the air ?
Dave T, and anyone else getting RoW withdrawel symptoms,
this might be the answer, Bill posted it on the LRO list but
I guess its to some other lists....
Dave I did not get that message from the chair (not being anti), please
post all the others again
Chris
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From: William Caloccia, INTERNET:caloccia@OpenMarket.com
TO: (unknown), INTERNET:RRO@PLAYGROUND.SUN.COM
CC: (unknown), INTERNET:UK-LRO@PLAYGROUND.SUN.COM
William Caloccia, INTERNET:CALOCCIA@OPENMARKET.COM
DATE: 16/04/97 21:39
RE: Back on the air ?
Hi folks,
We had a minor change in system software (like the mailer :-), and
it was more strict about some security things, and thus refused to process
mail to some of the lists (RRO, UK-LRO). LRO appears to have been
unaffected,
as it is architected slightly differently.
Everything is reported to be back to normal at this time.
Cheers,
-Bill
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