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From: Chris Marsden <Byway@compuserve.com>
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 03:49:36 -0500
Subject: Re: Upper lye & Roman Road 3866 4442
I'm quite happy for them to have not kept this. I hear the Co Sec/Sol has
summoned her highways director Gareth Randell, (who never replies to
letters) and legal and RoW (I think) to a meeting on 20th. I would like to
be a fly on the wall. But she is reported to say this is getting out of
hand, it's got to be sorted. Even the very patient Mr B. has after 10
years, put in a complaint that they have not made an order. Mr A from
Brampton Bryan has asked some 'direct' questions. Even the Nice Mr G from
Malvern has asked for a reply.
I think they know they have some explaining to do. They have been taking
the micky too long, now they are running scared. And we are loving it.
Must remind the Audit commission I have not heard from their auditors.
Don't you just love it when you got sommat yer can get yer teef inta?
I expect a fone call about Wednesday........
I know I could go to ombudsman now, but we will get further if we can sit
them down at a table and give them a good talking to. (There's modesty!)
I'll keep you posted.
Chris
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From: Chris Marsden <Byway@compuserve.com>
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 03:49:47 -0500
Subject: Re: Action please - new threat in Scotland
> I hope it is not too late to ask Byway to change his message.
Nope, I will leave it till Monday.
Chris
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From: Chris Marsden <Byway@compuserve.com>
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 03:49:45 -0500
Subject: Re: Action please - Jpegs/mime
> PS Dave, as you might guess, I cannot view the Dorset pics. Try attaching
the
> JPEGs as a ZIP file?
Oh no don't do that, mine came out fine! Rustic Man was changed to
Noname.021 but still opened in Photostyler.
I thinks Charlie sent a mime decode proggy a while back?
Cj
ps they were off-list, in case anyone was wondering. Showed an abated gate
and some responsible sustainable laning in Dorset early Dec, by the
grandaughters of Rebecca. Bless them all.
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From: Elwyn York <Elwyn@ey-eg.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 11:42:34 +0000
Subject: Media Contact Addreses
A while ago I said I had media Contact Addreses. I have now found the list,
so whoever wants a copy of the pages either emialed or faxes, please call.
It is easier by fax at the moment as I do not have a scanner.
Public Access:
Right To Reply (BBC)
Points of View (BBC)
Your Shout
Radio 4 "Call Ed Stourton"
Radio 5 Live "The Magazine"
National Press:
Daily Mail
Daily Star
Daily Telegraph
Evening Standard
The Express
The Guardian
The Independant
The Mirror
The Sun
The Times
ews of the World
The Observer
The People
Complaining to the Media:
Presswise
Broadcasting Standards Commision
Schizophrenia Media Agency
I am involved with the local Ceredigion (Mental Health) Advocacy Network &
US Network, and managed to get this information from them.
Anyway, Thats it for now
Cheers
Elwyn York
LR S3 '72 (Very Dented) Lightweight. [47 FL 06]
"Sub Aerodynamic Green Brick" ICQ: 17087824.
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From: howard.neal@mail.which.net
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 13:33:10 +0000
Subject: Re: Action please - new threat in Scotland
> Re: Highways Act 1980 S116 Stopping Up Order. Dere St. Objection.
Chris,
Just a thought. Remember we are concerned with Scottish Law here. I am not
sure if theHighways Act 1980 applies north of the border.
> This course of action (s116) is advised against in Making the Best of
> Byways, and in Circular 2/93.
> Have you considered the possibility that this road may not be being used by
> Do you wish B.O.A.T. DMMO’s to be
> submitted on your own forms, or would the pro-forma in the Blue Book be
> acceptable to your council? Can you supply details of all the landowners
> who you are aware of, that should be notified of such an application
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> following MBoB by means of an HA80 s116. Has MBoB been accepted by your
> council?
In Scotland there is no such thing as a BOAT or even a DM to modify. There
aren't any Magistrates Courts either!
Sorry if this sounds a bit negative but it could save a few red faces later.
Regards,
Howard
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From: "Dave Tilbury" <Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 12:39:29 -0000
Subject: IT question
Am I thick - or is microsoft? Using the MS internet mail package that come
with Windows. This uses Windows Address Book. Something tells me that I
should back up this now large store of info but where is it? The extensive
adress book help does not even cover backup.
Dave Tilbury
Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
http://www.hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
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From: "Dave Tilbury" <Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 14:53:15 -0000
Subject: Re: ROW
<< TV Group>>
Please excuse me for asking but is this some cross dressing 4x4 club?
Dave Tilbury
Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
http://www.hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
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> From: hawker <hawker@poverty.freeserve.co.uk>
> To: row@playground.sun.com
> Subject: Re: ROW
> Date: 08 January 1999 22:01
> I send out the copies of notices from the London Gazette to each
respondent
> within the area of County Council Highway Authorities. Can you let me
know
> if you are undertaking Rights of Way work for the TV Group, and which
> Councils you deal with, e.g. Berkshire, Surrey, or wherever?
> If you are performing this function, I will send you the appropriate
> Date: 08 January 1999 22:01
notices
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From: Elwyn York <Elwyn@ey-eg.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 16:31:06 +0000
Subject: Rupp 13 in herts
Dear All
A message from John O'Reilly
Regarding RUPP 13. The guy who was taking legal action against the AWDC for
trespass has just dropped it. Excellent News.
Can Tim Stevens please telephone John at home regarding the TRF Side of
things.
Unfortunatly John still has communication problems and is still not
connected to the internet/email but CAN RECEIVE TELEPHONE CALLS, just not
make them!!!
Cheers for now
Elwyn York
LR S3 '72 (Very Dented) Lightweight. [47 FL 06]
"Sub Aerodynamic Green Brick" ICQ: 17087824.
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From: Mike Thomas <miket@rmtmhs.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 19:18:46 +0000
Subject: Dere Street conversion
I have just got hold of a copy of the notice from the Scottish Border
Council:
Town and Country Planning (Scotland) Act 1997
The Scottish Borders Council (Conversion of a portion of Dere Street
from Pennymuir to Whitton Edge) Order 1998
The Scottish Borders Council hereby give notice that they have made an
Order under Section 203 of the Town and Country Planning (Scotland) Act
1997 authorising the conversion of:-
That section of Dere Street from the C41 at Pennymuir in a north
westerly direction for a length of 5.2km or thereby to the unclassified
road D140.4 near Whitton Edge to a bridleway and a footpath (with a
right for pedal cycles) but including provision for (1) permitting the
continued use on the road by vehicles (whether mechanically propelled or
not) for agricultural purposes and for the purpose of and maintaining
and repairing the bridleway and footpath and (2) maintaining the
existing rights of statutory undertakers.
Copies of the proposed Order and relevant plan specifying the length of
highway to be converted may be inspected at the Council Headquarters, of
the Scottish Borders Council, Newtown St. Boswells, Melrose, TD6 0SA by
any person free of charge, between the hours of 9.00am and 4.00pm
weekdays, during a period of 28 days from 24 December 1998. A further
copy of the documents are also available for inspection at Jedburgh
Public Library during normal opening hours. Within that period any
person may object to the making of the Order by notice in writing
addressed to the Scottish Borders Council, Director of Central Services,
Council Headquarters, Newtown St. Boswells. Objections should state the
name and address of the objector, the matters of which they relate and
the grounds on which they are made. On expiry of that period for
objections the Order will be submitted to the Secretary of State for
Scotland for consideration of any objections and confirmation or
confirmed by the Scottish Borders Council as an unopposed order if there
are no objections.
Roy Millan
Director of Central Services
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You can see that Scottish law differs considerably to the English/Wales
set up, however my objection, on the grounds of loss of amenity to
myself as a wheelchair user will wing its way of to them on Monday (-:
--
Mike Thomas (home) mailto:miket@rmtmhs.demon.co.uk
Edinburgh (wk) mailto:miket@sqf.hp.com
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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 20:19:48 -0000
Subject: RE: Warks 116
Isn't there a draft of the boiler plate 'BOAT' form in the 'Blue Book'?
I agree there is nothing quite like using the CC's own paperwork, but if
they won't co-operate then use that provided by HMG :-)
Sounds as if they are looking for evidence that just doesn't exist, and then
will stuff a large digit in a suitable orifice when they realise its theirs
all along.
Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110
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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 20:19:41 -0000
Subject: RE: dunlop's transportation - lets get the facts.
Or 'beware of flocks of pigeons' -they might pass comment upon your new suit
:-)))
Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110
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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 20:19:51 -0000
Subject: RE: Mr Hagen Daazs private footpath
And perhaps a few of those nice chaps who appear in British Lions (or even
better Fijian) shirt on cold muddy fields at this time of the year?
After all most of them are ex(?) public school and Oxbridge, they must be
nice gentle souls......
Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110
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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 20:19:46 -0000
Subject: RE: BBC Online report ramblers feud
I half heard the later news, someone from the CC was moaning that this would
cost them a bomb - don't they realise that the case being based on EVIDENCE,
i.e. the DM&S, which pre dates this Pratt of a LO then it could cost him a
bomb. The CC should get in with a charge under HA80 of obstruction,
continuous obstruction, for the barn, and one under the bits to do with
barbed wire (some of which is used in blocking off the FP) - then let the LO
do the squealing!!!
Having done him for that find the most expensive contractor to remove the
obstructions, and send the bill, with a suitable CC 'administrative
overhead' to the LO, along with a foreclosure notice to make his day :-)
At the same time establish the 'diversionary route', just in case he decides
to re-establish the barn and fence....
I'm not vindictive I just HATE that sort of LO.
Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110
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From: "Matthew Beasant" <mbeasant@vodafone.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 20:32:41 -0000
Subject: Re: Action please - new threat in Scotland
A mim file is a MIME encoded file. It means that someone attached more then
one file to an email and then sent it to AOL.
AOL encodes all the attachments (like a zip but different )
and forwards them to you.
If you search AOL for keyword MIME, I think they give you the decoding
program.
Good luck,
Matt
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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 20:54:13 -0000
Subject: RE: Action please - Jpegs/mime
That was a very pleasant weekend's run by some friends I am told :-)
Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110
p.s. did anyone see that horse rider with 'Rebecca' on her back?
Or was it just a flight of my fnacy....
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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 20:54:17 -0000
Subject: RE: Rupp 13 in herts
Good news indeed!
The b&*()r still hasn't paid his bill?
Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110
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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 20:54:12 -0000
Subject: RE: Upper lye & Roman Road 3866 4442
I do believe you have been stirring up the locals young Chris. That's very
naughty of you. In penance send in a few more s56's :-)
My mother used to have a large wooden spoon, especially for stirring vast
quantities of jam, do you wish a loan of said device?
Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110
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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 20:54:15 -0000
Subject: RE: Action please - new threat in Scotland
Has anyone checked with the Scottish Rights of Way Society to find what acts
(if any) apply in this case. From what I can remember Owen saying about the
Scottish situation much of it is entrenched in what might be termed 'common
law' and 'case law' rather than 'statue law'.
Much more emphasis is placed on use, and continued use than down here.
The lower court in Scotland is the Sheriff's Curt, similar to, but different
from the English & Welsh Magistrates' Court.
Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110
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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:51:28 -0000
Subject: Re: GLEAM Newbury (ROW & GLASS)
charset="iso-8859-1"
OK, I've got the 'surgical instruments', whose got the anaesthetic?
I have plenty of Whisky - will that do???
Cheers,
Bod.
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From: "Ian Boddison" <bod@bod1.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 19:36:10 -0000
Subject: Stockport RUPP 63 - Ideas wanted
Cheers,
Bod.
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From: Chris Marsden <Byway@compuserve.com>
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 17:43:11 -0500
Subject: Re: Action please - new threat in Scotland
> Sorry if this sounds a bit negative but it could save a few red faces
later.
> Sorry if this sounds a bit negative but it could save a few red faces
Yup, but as Tim has said it might not be 116 but TCP, however as it is
Northumberland it must be English Law to the Border and Scottish beyond.
They are here to serve, so as long as I am as polite (as I always am:-) if
they think it is under a different section they can let me know. But at
the end of the day they seem to be doing the peasents out of their scrap of
public road for their cronie's bit of extra land.
It's all in a good cause.
Cj
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