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| 1 | davidg@hwcces.demon.co.u | 25 | Another lane |
| 2 | Chris Lloyd [chris@upand | 15 | RE: FAO Chris Lloyd |
| 3 | TimLARA@aol.com | 26 | Re: web site |
| 4 | doghouse@cix.compulink.c | 14 | Re: Another lane |
| 5 | howard.neal@which.net | 33 | Re: Ridgeway Potential TRO |
| 6 | howard.neal@which.net | 27 | Ridgeway Voluntary Restraint |
| 7 | Chris Marsden [Byway@com | 19 | Another lane |
| 8 | Chris Marsden [Byway@com | 20 | Re: web site |
| 9 | Chris Marsden [Byway@com | 34 | Re: Ridgeway Potential TRO |
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From: davidg@hwcces.demon.co.uk (David Goode) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 13:44:33 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Another lane Last time we gave you a lane we said you don't get another until you've used it. Well I meant in/on vehicles not horses, you idiots. Now listen carefully, U64401, Blakes Lane, Worcestershire SO742640 - 737637 is now clear of logs, trees, etc. but has had plenty of equine use so keep your hooves off it and use a few tyres to compact it. However please use downhill only until the surface gets a chance to dry out a bit - for those who don't speak fluent contour, downhill is from NE to SW on this particular UCR, hence the order I quoted the grid refs.. I have not driven it myself bacuse a) when I was there this morning the bottom end of the lane was being used as a sheep pen while dipping was in progress b) it is a bit narrow in one place and I'd like a spotter (any volunteers, Chris?) when I drive it in the Discovery. No problem for a Suzi or Series L/R or bike though. Tell me if you use it. David Goode davidg@hwcces.demon.co.uk Environmental Services Dept Hereford and Worcester County Council - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 990207 -> | Search Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Chris Lloyd <chris@upandrun.co.uk> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 12:15:24 -0000 Subject: RE: FAO Chris Lloyd Thanks Dave, my exchange server redirects mail out to my compuserve account so I can get it on the road but since I subscribed to row its filled up the account which I don't check that regularly as I read most of my mail in the office. I have now shut down this redirection and emptyed the compuserve mailbox so the error should not occur again. Please try resending. The address is chris@upandrun.co.uk Best regards Chris Lloyd - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 990207 -> | Search Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: TimLARA@aol.com Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 11:35:30 EST Subject: Re: web site I think RoWLR is in the same trap that OS think they are, but more justifiably. The stuff is written by lawyers, for lawyers. And they do not live in the real world of pay-slips. They also think, OS style, that demand is limited to the current clientel, ie HAs. And with no adverts to support costs, and a small audience (so no adverts, so high costs, so a small audience), initiation cost is spread over too few copies. It was a giant leap for H Ford Esq (and B Gates Esq, I suppose), and RoWLR have yet to make it. Can you have a web site with a section which is password only? Then only current subscribers would have access, but the costs would be less. Someone would still have to write it, though. The change I would like to see would be a letters page so we could say surely Joe Bloggs QC has got it wrong... Cheers, tim - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 990207 -> | Search Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: doghouse@cix.compulink.co.uk (Michael Dyer) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 99 18:51 GMT0 Subject: Re: Another lane <<<Tell me if you use it.>>> I'd love to, David, butu Surrey-Worcs is a little far @ 14 mpg for _just one lane_ ;-))))) 73s and 88s :-) Mick Dyer (doghouse@cix) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 990207 -> | Search Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: howard.neal@which.net Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 10:11:23 +0000 Subject: Re: Ridgeway Potential TRO > A 5 or 10 mph speed limit may help limit actual speed to > 20 or less, and point out that if you want to drive fast, find somewhere > away from people. A speed limit would be an excellent idea. The presence of proper DoT signs (white circled in red) would emphasise that the Ridgeway is a public road. The use of which carries certain responsiblities. How much does a speed limit cost? > How can you prevent it becoming just another > well made (if not tarred) road? It already is tarred on some sections. > Perhaps the signs should be rather more forcefull than usual:- NO Vehicles > except permitted:- then the VR notice with the restraint actually detailing > when and how it may be used. White on blue 1ft x 2ft signs with an > attached A4 VR notice, may be an adequate method of pointing out the > responsibilities. One foot by two is not probably not big enough. To make an impression the signs would have to be BIG! Regards, Howard. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 990207 -> | Search Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: howard.neal@which.net Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 19:40:02 +0000 Subject: Ridgeway Voluntary Restraint I noticed today that the LARA voluntary restraint is in force on the Ridgeway in my area. The bright green signs are up at all the access points I checked. It seems to be working as I didn't see a single motor vehicle. Not content with the West Berks Council style open ended VR on Old Street somebody has had a go at an involuntary restaint at SU467784. The obstruction is a burnt out car blocking access. It appears to have has dumped there on its roof by a tractor. There was a lovely set of tracks leading up to it from further down the lane. More photos for the album! I also noticed several West Berks voluntary restraint notices I hadn't seen before. SU430820, 448833, 453812, 490813, 474789, 467784, 468764. They really have been busy. TROs will probably follow. Regards, Howard - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 990207 -> | Search Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Chris Marsden <Byway@compuserve.com> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:01:21 -0500 Subject: Another lane > while dipping was in progress b) it is a bit narrow in one place and > I'd like a spotter (any volunteers, Chris?) when I drive it in the > Discovery. No problem for a Suzi or Series L/R or bike though. I used it last summer uphill on a baking hot day after speculating at Shelsey Walsh. I needed windows closed due to undergrowth trying to get in. It was one I explored and felt safer going up than down, but it was kinda narrow and a bit damp and silted even on such an incredibly hot day. Yes I am happy to try asap, not Sunday (tomorrow) exploring on 148 with new friends. Anytime thereafter. Agree downhill only in winter, after walking first. Chris - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 990207 -> | Search Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Chris Marsden <Byway@compuserve.com> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 19:17:41 -0500 Subject: Re: web site > It was a giant leap for H Ford Esq (and B Gates Esq, I suppose), and RoWLR > have yet to make it. Can an original copy (be copied to make a working master, as with computer programs), then be circulated to a set list of people, read and forwarded to the next to show that there is a wider audience? Each posting it on within 48 hours, such circulation lists do work for memos within large companies, each person initially and passing on to next in the list? A copy sent to an HA is read by a number of people, posting onto other members is kosher, surely? Chris - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 990207 -> | Search Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Chris Marsden <Byway@compuserve.com> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 19:17:31 -0500 Subject: Re: Ridgeway Potential TRO > A speed limit would be an excellent idea. The presence of proper DoT signs > (white circled in red) would emphasise that the Ridgeway is a public road. The > use of which carries certain responsiblities. > How much does a speed limit cost? Simialr to TRO I think in that it has to be advertised, and consultation etc. But there are strict rules for applying 30MPH where there are no street lights, ie it has to have repeater signs every 200m, and even more red tape for lower speed limits (DETR appro. AFAIK) Lower than 20 may not be permitted. > One foot by two is not probably not big enough. To make an impression the > signs would have to be BIG! Spoils the character of a lane, I suspect it would suffice, very few people wil lignore a NO VEHICLES sign, those that know will read the VR and be aware of their rights in accordance with it. This is only a suggestion for a way round the over use of a road, which if this could be solved, then there can not be another well known road anywhere that could not be solved if also suffering from overuse. Quite simply we have a finite resource, if not regulated in some fair way, will no longer be 'special'. Chris - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 990207 -> | Search Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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