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From: "John O'Reilly" <JOR@oreilly69.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 12:26:21 -0000
Subject: Re: Glass meeting in Central London
->Since DT and I are going to raid the Post Office in Lunnun Tarn in
>:-) Mick Dyer (doghouse@cix)
Hi Mike
None that are just for GLASS, but I would be pleased to meet up while you
are in town.
Cheers John O'
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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:55:27 -0000
Subject: RE: West Berks Vindictive TRO (Somme) Glass & RoW
Isn't the enforcement just as much a problem with permanent TROs where the
LO is concerned?
Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110
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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:59:09 -0000
Subject: RE: Web site
'scuse my ignorance, but what's RoWLR?
Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110
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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:59:45 -0000
Subject: RE: web site
Quite a number of 'commercial' web sites do require a password to get beyond
a certain point - Microsoft is one that comes to mind...
Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110
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From: howard.neal@which.net
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 11:49:53 +0000
Subject: Oxfordshire vehicular RoW
Does anyone out there have any info on Oxfordshire vehicular RoW
particularly UCRs. I am sure that there must be more than shown on the
current OS maps. Dual status routes don't seem to be shown at all.
Regards,
Howard
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From: Susan Jeggo <derek.sue@virgin.net>
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 18:33:27 +0000
Subject: Re: Web site
Rob Smith wrote:
> 'scuse my ignorance, but what's RoWLR?
Rights of Way Law REview. contains loads of info & right ups on cases, legal
interpretation, etc.Bit like BBT but much more expanded. (no offence Alan).
Sue
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From: "Dave Tilbury" <Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 19:01:51 -0000
Subject: In dip endent ?
Once again we have been shit upon by the Media. I feel the only way forward
is to bombard the PCC with objection to the lies published on green lane
issues.
Dave Tilbury
Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
http://www.hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
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From: howard.neal@which.net
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 18:37:52 +0000
Subject: Re: Glass meeting in Central London
> ->Since DT and I are going to raid the Post Office in Lunnun Tarn in
> >February does anyone know of any GLASS meetings around there?
> >:-) Mick Dyer (doghouse@cix)
> Hi Mike
> None that are just for GLASS, but I would be pleased to meet up while you
> are in town.
Now I understand. I thought Lunnun Tarn was in the Lake District.
Regards,
Howard
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From: "Dave Tilbury" <Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 19:13:12 -0000
Subject: Re: web site
<<Quite a number of 'commercial' web sites do require a password to get
beyond
a certain point - Microsoft is one that comes to mind...>>
As does, of course, the Mambo Jambo web site:
http://www.soton.ac.uk/~oms/index.html
Dave Tilbury
Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
http://www.hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
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From: doghouse@cix.compulink.co.uk (Michael Dyer)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 99 23:47 GMT0
Subject: Re: prosecutions.
Howard Neal mailed me with thsi question...I am sure that he will forgive
me for throwing it open for general reply
Mick,
What's all this about AWDC & TRF members being prosecuted for driving on
a RUPP in Herts? It is a bit alarming.
Too right it is? Anone know anything definite?
73s and 88s
:-) Mick Dyer (doghouse@cix)
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From: "Bod" <bod@bod1.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:05:38 -0000
Subject: Highway in A.Bennett's constituency
Following an idea from Mick Dyer I have been searching the maps to try
and find an obstructed lane in Andrew Bennett's constituency. There
is one candidate so far identified (LR Map 109) and I have just faxed
this off to Tameside MDC.
I also have my man in Tameside (Rob Haldane) on the case!
The route is a definitive bridleway but continues over the Stockport
border as a RUPP (for about 15 yards!). It is shown as a 'white'
for most of its length and is away from any housing (except at its
northern end). It passes under railway bridge and over a motorway
(M66) bridge so there should be some deposited plans to give enough
evidence (hopefully) to allow it to be driven. I do not know yet
if it is obstructed but I would think that it probably is - at least
to cars.
I will keep you posted.
Cheers,
Bod.
#########################
Tameside MDC - Rights of Way Department
By Fax To: 0161 342 3911
Dear Sirs,
I am interested in the Public Bridleway which runs from the
Tameside/Stockport border at grid reference SJ 906 936 to 'Hyde Hall'
at grid reference SJ 917 943.
Firstly, are you aware of any orders that relate to this route such as
previous stopping up orders from a higher status right of way or any
orders that were made at the time of the building of the M66 motorway?
Furthermore, is this highway included on the Council's List of Streets
Maintainable at Public Expense?
Many thanks in anticipation of your assistance in this matter.
Yours sincerely
Ian Boddison
Manchester Area Representative
GLASS (Green Lane Association)
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From: "Bod" <bod@bod1.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 20:49:25 -0000
Subject: Warwickshire E5221 site visit
I was near this lane over the weekend but did not get to visit as I
had planned.
I am, however, in the area next weekend.
Anyone fancy meeting up on Saturday morning (13-2-98) to walk it?
Cheers,
Bod.
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From: "Bod" <bod@bod1.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 11:12:55 -0000
Subject: Re: Ridgeway Potential TRO
>* HAs, illegal, unsocial, - we could get some good soundbytes from
that,
>"responsible clubs slams the cowboys, gardiner welcomes LARA
initiative"
>"Rhoda watched in awe, as Tim terminates tear-arses"
Oh dear Tim - you've set him off again.
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From: "Bod" <bod@bod1.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:52:06 -0000
Subject: Re: Ridgeway Potential TRO
>First I have heard about it. How about a day of vigilante action,
supported by
>friendly plod and MSA, any comp licenses go through the shredder, all
reported
>for illegal motoring, no this, that, tother. With a bit of
co-ordination and
>a few radio equipped vehicles supported by trail bikes it might do
some good.
>Any thoughts?
Yes - One way we can start to demonstrate that we will not accept
irresponsible motoring use of the countryside is to do something about
it.
In the past our biggest threat has only been to report a number plate
to plod.
Maybe this is a chance to do something more 'high-profile' and it
should serve to demonstrate our intentions to 'the authorities' and to
'the public'
Cheers,
Bod.
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From: "Bod" <bod@bod1.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:08:50 -0000
Subject: Richard Marshall
Richard, are you still on the list.
If so please mail me direct as I have lost your email address
Cheers,
Bod.
bod@bod1.freeserve.co.uk
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From: "Bod" <bod@bod1.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:19:05 -0000
Subject: Warks
>No, informal discussion only to decide if to. So no intention as yet.
Yes I know but it is just an informal letter of enquiry just to let
them know that someone else is interested in this route
Cheers,
Bod.
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From: "Bod" <bod@bod1.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:56:58 -0000
Subject: Re: TRO Costs
>A significant amount of notification and consultation is required
(not to us,
>silly, they don't want our help), and the signs are not cheap. Two at
every
>point of access, plus erection costs. All that standing around in a
luminous
>weskit.
So who do they consult?
Where are details published? (Not in LG it would appear)
Is there a statutory right of objection?
Cheers,
Bod.
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From: "Bod" <bod@bod1.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:24:14 -0000
Subject: Re: Bennett in Manchester Metro News
>>"He wouldn't expect people to block roads but he is doing the same
>>thing to public rights of way."
....
>Is Bennett likely to campaign openly for the removal of obstructions
that
>prevent vehicles being used on BOATs and UCRs ?
We are currently looking for an obstructed carriageway in the
constituency of Denton & Reddish (Bennett's constituency)!
There are not many unsurfaced anythings in that area though.
Cheers,
Bod.
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From: "Bod" <bod@bod1.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:48:52 -0000
Subject: Garbage Mails (was: Re: Ridgeway TRO PI)
>PS messages without titles seem to get called 'Garbage' somehere in
the
>system, and get sent on by owner-row@ rather than row@.
And I thought I was the only one getting them.
They do not seem to be title-less messages but random ones from CJM!
The subject-less ones come through as normal.
Any idea why it should be only your mails that the major thinks are
garbage Chris?
Cheers,
Bod.
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From: "Bod" <bod@bod1.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 11:11:21 -0000
Subject: Tim's plan (was: Re: E5221 complaint)
>is "s116" a s56, or are you now into closing roads down,
Stevens??????
>is "s116" a s56, or are you now into closing roads down,
No No No Chris you missed the point.
Now that Tim has a Suzi type thing that cannot go very far, he has
started a cunning little plan to issue s116 applications for all
interesting lanes that he can find.
His idea is to start with one lane in each county and apply to have
them diverted so that they all start, finish and generally do not
leave Market Drayton.
Once he has one from each county he will bring in a few more from the
four corners of the country so that he can spend a day travelling
around all counties without leaving Market Drayton!
After some of the recent Footpath diversion orders that we have had in
Manchester recently it will not be long before a highway is diverted
so far that it ends up in another country!
Cheers,
Bod.
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From: Elwyn York <Elwyn@ey-eg.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 01:41:18 +0000
Subject: Re: prosecutions.
>Mick,
>What's all this about AWDC & TRF members being prosecuted for driving on
>a RUPP in Herts? It is a bit alarming.
>Too right it is? Anone know anything definite?
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>73s and 88s
>:-) Mick Dyer (doghouse@cix)
I sent an email earlier in the year about this, information from John
O'Reilly (JOR@oreilly69.freeserve.co.uk), while he was off the net.
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From: "Elwyn York (CSide)" <Countryside@ey-eg.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 01:44:24 +0000
Subject: Re: prosecutions.
>Mick,
>What's all this about AWDC & TRF members being prosecuted for driving on
>a RUPP in Herts? It is a bit alarming.
>Too right it is? Anone know anything definite?
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>73s and 88s
>:-) Mick Dyer (doghouse@cix)
I sent an email earlier in the year about this, information from John
O'Reilly (JOR@oreilly69.freeserve.co.uk), while he was off the net.
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From: alan kind <alan@highwayman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 19:55:39 +0000
Subject: Web site [multipart mime alternative 5 lines deleted.]
In message <bulk.6098.19990207103254@Land-Rover.Team.Net>, Susan Jeggo
<derek.sue@virgin.net> writes
>Rob Smith wrote:
>> 'scuse my ignorance, but what's RoWLR?
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>Rights of Way Law REview. contains loads of info & right ups on cases, legal
>interpretation, etc.Bit like BBT but much more expanded. (no offence Alan).
What DO you mean - 'like B&B'...
RWLR is missing the acidic wit, blatant humour, downright humanity, and
never, ever, kicks Sustrans in the bollox (not that I know of, anyway)
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