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From: Chris Marsden <Byway@compuserve.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 03:37:54 -0500
Subject: Re: EDM
> for coachloads of ramblers, autograss racers, four wheel drive
> enthusiasts, fishing parties and so on. We rely greatly on our
> organisations such as the NFU andCLA") - Morris >>>>>>>
> A beautiful quote, was it in personal correspondence or may we have date
> and reference to use it on another occasion?
As someone once said
;-) Where have you been, Tim,XXX, No, Mick, never heard of my postings
of Plonker Temple-Morris's election address:-
Note he was appealing to his Conservative cahoots at the time, (don't ask
how he's Lab now)
Peter Temple-Morris’s Election leaflet 1997:-
RURAL ACCESS AND URBAN INTRUSION
This is a real problem now and increasing in the future. Access on a fair
and proper basis there must be, but we are not some sort of playground for
coach loads of ramblers, autograss racers, four wheel drive enthusiasts,
fishing parties and so on. We rely greatly on our organisations such as the
NFU and CLA; our local councils; and on me as MP to be constantly vigilant
in this area.
It has his mugshot on it as well. A collectors item.
Chris
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From: Chris Marsden <Byway@compuserve.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 03:38:03 -0500
Subject: E5221 When did it start?
Had a call from Gareth GBW2@aol.com 01 827 718 849.
He put in a complaint on 12/12/98 I believe of E5221 being obstructed.
A copy of a letter from Warks 1st class dated 21/12/98 appears to be the
first letter (to a local resident) saying they had had a request for
stopping up.
Now I may have to re-confirm the dates with Gareth, but it would appear
the 116 appl. disclosure was first made known AFTER a report had gone to CC
by a user!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Note this road is not shown with ORPA on 151 which does have some other
ORPA shown.
Little rascals............
cj
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From: "Peter Dowson" <Peter.Dowson@softwareag.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 08:54:39 -0000
Subject: Re: A Favour from all List partcipants please
I'm not a particularly active contributor to the list but do follow it.
I am from North Staffordshire.
Peter Dowson
>We would like you to just state which County you are in. Thats all,
>honest. It doesnt matter if you post to the list or mail to me if you
>prefer. _IF_ you happen to know the name of your MP and the constituency
>so much the better, but your County is the basic info.
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From: "Dave Tilbury" <Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 00:16:23 -0000
Subject: Re: A Favour from all List partcipants please
<<MP = W.J. Clappison
He's one of the sensible ones nes par?
Dave Tilbury
Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
http://www.hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
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From: "Dave Tilbury" <Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 00:07:13 -0000
Subject: Re: EDM...green lanes
Nice one GS
Dave Tilbury
Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
http://www.hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
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From: "Dave Tilbury" <Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 00:11:18 -0000
Subject: Re: A Favour from all List partcipants please
Hampshire
MP = David Chidgey
He is signed up the EDM and has been sent an e-mail. A letter will follow
and I will publish here. I only got 101 e-mails today. system must be
down ;-(
Dave Tilbury
Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
http://www.hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
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From: TimLARA@aol.com
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 06:10:42 EST
Subject: Re: A Favour from all List partcipants please
In a message dated 24.02.99 01:03:09 GMT Standard Time, tom@riverside-
repairs.freeserve.co.uk writes:
<< don't know the staus - does this matter? >>
Tom is thinking of writing to his MP. No, it does not matter. You might be
concerned that your access to the countryside is proposed to be restricted,
and it doesn't matter that you may not have sought out particular lanes in a
particular area. The EDM claim is that lanes are being badly affected, and if
she supports that view it is either on evidence or it isn't. Ask for her
evidence so you can avoid problem routes, and help in management of them.
There are such routes in Somerset, and one or two are a bit the worse for
wear, but not primarily due to recreational 4x4 or motorcycle use. But let her
identify them for you - I am sure she will not know of any relevant problems,
and will possibly have been wound-up by a local turnip-grower.
Cheers, Tim
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From: "Dave Tilbury" <Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:29:03 -0000
Subject: Re: A Favour from all List partcipants please
<<Will try to find
time to write to her, trouble is I have never driven any green lanes
in somerset, only walked some and don't know the staus - does this matter?
<<Will try to find
Depends if you want to walk on an ancient track with that feeling of
history and the knowledge that you forefathers might have know he way, and
recognised it today - or do you want to walk through a field of turnips?
My wife comes from Taunton but discretion dictates that I don't ask about
her green lane use!!
Dave Tilbury
Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
http://www.hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
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From: Stephen Somers <stephen.somers@virgin.net>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:13:37 -0800
Subject: Re: bewdley/stourport bywayDevil's S TRO
hawker wrote:
> >>referred to new H&E regulations<<
> In my youth, H&E was a euphemism for the only form of soft porn which could
> be obtained from the top shelf of the Newsagents counter. Its full name was
> (still is?) Health & Efficiency. It was the Playboy/Mayfair/Fiesta of its
> day.
Err... It's a fair cop. What I meant was 'HSE', as in Health and Safety
Executive. I guess my greyware OCR scanner was playing up!
--
Steve Somers (Project Leader)
'75 Land Rover 101" Forward Control, 1-Tonne, General Service
(62FL50 - Royal Artillery/2 Commando)
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From: doghouse@cix.compulink.co.uk (Michael Dyer)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 99 15:53 GMT
Subject: Re: A Favour from all List partcipants please
Tom asks
<<<<, trouble is I have never driven any green lanes
in somerset, only walked some and don't know the staus - does this matter?
I'm sure that she hasn't either.>>>
No it doesn't matter, I have never put a child thru' school, so am I
excluded from asking about teaching? Same principle
Oh and be sure to ask her if she has any first-hand experience of being
troubled by 2x1s and 4x4s on such lanes. See other peoples advice re:
writing on this List
73s and 88s
:-) Mick Dyer (doghouse@cix)
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From: doghouse@cix.compulink.co.uk (Michael Dyer)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 99 15:53 GMT
Subject: Re: A Favour from all List partcipants please
<<<<<<<<<< I only got 101 e-mails today. system must be
down ;-(>>>
No it wasnt...and that makes 102 :-)))))
73s and 88s
:-) Mick Dyer (doghouse@cix)
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From: "Mark Smith" <MarkSmith@dataip.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 18:06:04 -0000
Subject: Re: A Favour from all List partcipants please
MP = David Kidney, Lab
County = Staffordshire
Constitunency = Stafford (Town or South or something)
> We would like you to just state which County you are in. Thats all,
> honest. It doesnt matter if you post to the list or mail to me if you
> prefer. _IF_ you happen to know the name of your MP and the constituency
> so much the better, but your County is the basic info.
Mark Smith dataIP Computer Consultants
tel. +44(0)1785 609520 fax. +44(0)1785 609521
smtp:MarkSmith@dataIP.co.uk http://www.dataIP.co.uk/
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From: howard.neal@which.net
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 22:43:03 +0000
Subject: Re: A Favour from all List partcipants please
> We would like you to just state which County you are in. Thats all,
> honest. It doesnt matter if you post to the list or mail to me if you
> prefer. _IF_ you happen to know the name of your MP and the constituency
> so much the better, but your County is the basic info.
Mick,
I live in West Berkshire and my MP is some chap called David Rendel.
Regards,
Howard
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From: Keith Butler <k.butler@virgin.net>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 21:22:56 +0000
Subject: Re: A Favour from all List partcipants please
Michael Dyer wrote:
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From: Keith Butler <k.butler@virgin.net>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 21:27:42 +0000
Subject: Re: A Favour from all List partcipants please
Michael Dyer wrote:
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From: "Dave Codrai" <dave@codrai.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 22:48:47 -0000
Subject: Re: A Favour from all List partcipants please
Sensible is not a word I would normally associate with MP's, he just didn't
sign the EDM, either lost his pen or he was playing hooky that
day/week/month, or was on a fact finding mission to the Caribbean to study
the mating habits of the lesser spotted secretary, all at our expense of
course.
Dave
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From: "Tom Murkin" <tom@riverside-repairs.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 02:49:08 -0000
Subject: Re: A Favour from all List partcipants please
>Tom is thinking of writing to his MP. No, it does not matter. You might be
>concerned that your access to the countryside is proposed to be restricted,
>and it doesn't matter that you may not have sought out particular lanes in
a
>particular area. The EDM claim is that lanes are being badly affected, and
if
Thanks for the advice. Will try to make time to write this weekend and will
let you know of any reply. I've been following this group for some time so
know some of the arguents to use, and despite doing a lot of walking in
Somerset and driving on Exmoor (as support vehicle), have never come across
a recreational 4x4, only acricultral ones whose drivers have been far from
friendly.
Tom
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From: Chris Marsden <Byway@compuserve.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 02:31:28 -0500
Subject: Re: A Favour / Photo request
> I note that she has also signed the EDM on Green Lanes. Will try to find
> time to write to her, trouble is I have never driven any green lanes
> in somerset, only walked some and don't know the status - does this
matter?
> I'm sure that she hasn't either.
> time to write to her, trouble is I have never driven any green lanes
No, I bet she hasn't, and doesn't know the status. And if she sees muddy
ruts on a FP or Bridleway, I bet she will blame it on us without looking to
see why it is muddy, where the tracks go, what clues there are from the
marks as to thy vehicle type that made them. AND ABOVE ALL not stop to
think Ahhh! It's only a Footpath so all these vehicles MUST be local
residents or Farm or Forestry etc with private rights!
Does anyone have, or can everyone be on the lookout for an opportunity to
photograph a tractor or other heavy non-leisure vehicle ON a green lane,
and if muddy all the better, and with laden tailer, all the better still.
This could be very important.
The antis seem to get pictures of laners easily enough, when we are
outnumbered by commercial wreckers we have very few to show as evidence. A
picture speaks a thousand words, it's time for us to bite back.
Chris
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