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From: doghouse@cix.compulink.co.uk (Michael Dyer)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 99 12:38 GMT
Subject: Re: NGRs for ES use : Was part of Points of law
where occupants of remote buildings are informed of their NGRs to
quote in the case of need. It is used to reduce response times. So,
in Staffs at least, it should help.>>>
Possibly a suggestion to ACPO for national adoption? Do we have a
policeperson on the List?
73s and 88s
:-) Mick Dyer (doghouse@cix)
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From: doghouse@cix.compulink.co.uk (Michael Dyer)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 99 12:38 GMT
Subject: Re: Points of law
<<<<<but it wouldn't necessarily be theft,
because there would be no intention to permanently deprive the owner of his
property.>>>>
But surely this would have to be clearly understood by both parties (?and
recorded?) before the handover of property?.
My reading of such a handover would be that it was as a willing gift, and
the new 'owner' could do what he likes.
73s and 88s
:-) Mick Dyer (doghouse@cix)
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From: doghouse@cix.compulink.co.uk (Michael Dyer)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 99 12:38 GMT
Subject: Re: Intimidation: was part of Points of law
<<No-one yet (well not recently) but I've been needling Mick for a while so
it's only a matter of time :-))>>>>
He's coming rard ar harse in an hour or so, time to fettle the killer
dogs....
<<<<Seriously, I've been challenged a couple of times on lanes, not with
anysuggestion of violence I must stress, however there's always a chance
thingswill change for the worst.>>>>
I find keeping my temper in the face of unwarrated abuse the most
stressful factor. These people wouldnt dream of abuusing a user of the M25
whilst walking down the 'fast lane', what gives them the right to do so on
any other road.
<<<,(a Portsmouth upbringing, mixing with the Navy is a wonderful
teacher)>>>>
Was this last weekend, any particular weekend, or should this have been
posted to alt.rec.fishnet tightsdotcom?
<<<No-one yet (well not recently) but I've been needling Mick for a while
soit's only a matter of time :-))
<<<<<<<<<, but also for any
mudpluggers who we come across who don't appreciate having a VR pointed out
to them.>>>>
I had to deal with a prat in a LWT yesterday who proudly said that his 42
tons of body decoration came from the weekend on the Ridgeway :-( i
attempted to give him some corrective education but he gave me a load of
defensive BS about how he went photographing Alaska so he knows all about
the environment. Guess you cant educate those who dont want to be
educated :-(
73s and 88s
:-) Mick Dyer (doghouse@cix)
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From: "Dave Tilbury" <Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 13:11:07 -0000
Subject: Re: Points of law
The navy and Portsmouth are two things I would not have guessed about you.
Dave Tilbury
Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
http://www.hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 18:08:36 -0000
Subject: RE: Suzukis in Berkshire
or even a violin?
Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110
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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 18:08:38 -0000
Subject: RE: RA-Suffolk option
Are you really saying that a CC is going to court on 'our' side of the
fence, that must be a first!!!!
Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110
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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:07:43 -0000
Subject: RE: Points of law
Or even 'aggravated burglary', or a 'racially motivated crime' if one were
from one of the racial minorities.....
I like Owen's approach to such a person, which is summarised as "Don't wave
that thing in my face unless you intend to use it".....Braver man than me.
Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110
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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:07:41 -0000
Subject: RE: Rural Rides
I do like some of these indomitable people who become "six inch nails in
life's merry banister" to officials and the like ;-)
I wander how she got her lottery money, and if we could use similar
approach to fund some similar research on a more national scale ;-)
Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110
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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:07:36 -0000
Subject: RE: IT'S WAR!!!!
4 wheels vs 2 is always a bit one sided, but look on the bright side, you
had parked the bike before rather than after the accident.
Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110
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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:07:47 -0000
Subject: RE: Points of law
RAC can find you from an NGR, even in the middle of nowhere - as Frank E
discovered when he blew his prop shaft...
In the more remote areas I would expect plod to find you from an NGR, as
they are used by mountain rescue and the like...
Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110
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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:07:53 -0000
Subject: RE: Intimidation: was part of Points of law
I've thought of a new use for a LWT starting handle. No prizes for
guessing...
Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110
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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:07:38 -0000
Subject: RE: How many RECORDED UCRs?
If Staffs are typical then these figures don't sound too far out. I heard a
figure that came out from their fair mouths that they 'guess' that for ever
mile of FP/BW there is another mile of 'UCCR' that needs to be found and
sorted.
Staffs do have a fair number of 'UCCR' on the street maps, and claim that
most of these are VRoW....
Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110
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From: Chris Marsden <Byway@compuserve.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:25:13 -0500
Subject: Re: Points of law
> <<<<<but it wouldn't necessarily be theft,
because there would be no intention to permanently deprive the owner of his
> property.>>>>
> But surely this would have to be clearly understood by both parties (?and
recorded?) before the handover of property?.
> My reading of such a handover would be that it was as a willing gift, and
> But surely this would have to be clearly understood by both parties (?and
> the new 'owner' could do what he likes.
> But surely this would have to be clearly understood by both parties (?and
If it was not a willing gift it would be theft possibly with menaces.
Never hand over keys willingly. If on a Vehicular RoW they have no power to
stop you, in law. If you stray, you must leave by the shortest
possible/practical route, and could be liable for any damage. So only hand
over keys or money if put in fear of violance, and try to record in any way
you can, and report to police immediately.
Chris
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From: "Bod" <bod@bod1.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:30:12 -0000
Subject: Survey forms
Mike Smyth, a Manchester GLASS member came up with an interesting suggestion
for showing that people do require lanes. Collect a large number of
survey forms and then submit them to Downing Street in a blaze of publicity.
I know that it is difficult to get survey forms filled in but is it worth
considering?
Cheers,
Bod
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