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1 BurgDM@aol.com 5National Green Lane Day
2 "Dave Tilbury" [Dave@han12Re: Reasons to deny BOATs
3 "Dave Tilbury" [Dave@han16Re: Babtie / Oareborough Hill
4 howard.neal@which.net 33Re: Babtie / Oareborough Hill
5 doghouse@cix.compulink.c21Re: Babtie
6 Chris Marsden [Byway@com12Name and shame, who is in your area
7 "Rob Smith" [rob@archenl18RE: Reasons to deny BOATs
8 "Mike Hannigan" [hanniga32Green Lane Day
9 Chris Marsden [Byway@com19Re: Babtie / Oareborough Hill
10 Chris Marsden [Byway@com24Re: Babtie / Oareborough Hill
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From: BurgDM@aol.com
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 06:46:19 EST
Subject: National Green Lane Day

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From: "Dave Tilbury" <Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 15:19:39 -0000
Subject: Re: Reasons to deny BOATs

Coz they'll have the land from them selves one day.  Can sell for more if
no RoW across or adjacent to land.

Dave Tilbury
Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
http://www.hants-lanes.demon.co.uk

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From: "Dave Tilbury" <Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 15:24:22 -0000
Subject: Re: Babtie / Oareborough Hill

I had planned to lead a run up to this area but bike broken.  Will do and
then get involved.  The last time I was up quite that far was several years
ago (normally don't have time to cross the M4) and all these lanes were in
perfect condition.

Remember that RB actively campaigns for glimmer!!

Dave Tilbury
Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
http://www.hants-lanes.demon.co.uk

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From: howard.neal@which.net
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 14:11:03 +0000
Subject: Re: Babtie / Oareborough Hill

Chris,

For what its worth Babtie have offices in Aberdeen, Abingdon, Aylesbury,
Bedford, Belfast, Birmingham, Bristol, Cambridge, Cardiff, Chelmsford,
Coventry, Croydon, Derby, Edinborough, Exeter, Glasgow, Inverness, Ipswich,
London, Maidstone, Newcastle upon Tyne, Preston, Reading, Shrewsbury,
Wakefield, Wallingford, Ankara, Bankok, Hong Kong, Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur,
Manila, Prague and Singapore.

We can only hope that they are only involved in Rights of Way management in
Berkshire.

They are also registered enviromental impact assessors with the Institute of
Environmental Assessment.

Their registered office is :-

Babtie Group Ltd
95 Bothwell Street
Glasgow G27HX

Registered in Scotland
No. 141100

Regards,

Howard

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From: doghouse@cix.compulink.co.uk (Michael Dyer)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 99 16:48 GMT
Subject: Re: Babtie 

<Remember that RB actively campaigns for glimmer!!>

Following a conversation with her last Monday it is my impression that she 
*might* have rather less time for them now....... but to all concerned 
with these matters, I would suggest we pursue _any_  
Gloom/WestBerks/Babtie/Undue influence/Inappropriate treatment of 
vehicular users connections that we can...

..remember, their contract is up for renewal next year and it would be an 
opportunity for us to shout 'UNFAIR!' in the correct place at the 
appropriate time.

73s and 88s

:-) Mick Dyer (doghouse@cix)

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From: Chris Marsden <Byway@compuserve.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 13:07:04 -0500
Subject: Name and shame, who is in your area

> Is there any way of finding out who in our area is a member of GLEAM?
> Brian 

They keep that info pretty quiet, as many people will not admit it due to
their jobs, bit like the masons.  Also they will give free membership to
anyone who asks or is in a 'useful' position.

Its a bit like asking a liar if they are telling lies? If they are not they
will be telling the truth, if they are, you still do not know!

Start by assuming all nimbys are, or are likely to be.  Tells us the low
down?

Chris


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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 21:06:49 -0000
Subject: RE: Reasons to deny BOATs

They don't want the great unwashed seeing their washing...

Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110

> From: Dave Tilbury [mailto:Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk]
> Sent: 20 March 1999 15:20

Coz they'll have the land from them selves one day.  Can sell for more if no
RoW across or adjacent to land.
> From: Dave Tilbury [mailto:Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk]
 Dave Tilbury

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From: "Mike Hannigan" <hannigan@cableinet.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 21:53:24 -0000
Subject: Green Lane Day
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Green Lane Day
Some will have received this info under separate cover

You may be aware that LARA , is organising some green lane clearances on =
the 28th of March.
The Southern group Trail Riders Fellowship will be doing a few and =
helping with a bridleway  and I do mean Bridleway so no vehicles on the =
way, in Fareham, at the request of The British Horse Soc.
I don't know if you have any plans, but if you or any friends are or =
wish to be involved then I would be happy to hear from you.
We are meeting at map ref is SU 551 075, also location of refreshments.
Address is Oaklea, Fareham Park Road, Hill Park, Fareham
The Bridleway runs from the railway bridge to south west of Henry Cort =
School, past Oak Lea and on to the route of the dismantled railway.
The plan is to meet at 10 am, you will need wellies and basic hedge =
trimming gear.
If there are more than a few it would be better to park up at Henry Cort =
School and send one rep. up to OakLea.
give me an e-mail
Mike Hannigan

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From: Chris Marsden <Byway@compuserve.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 18:13:51 -0500
Subject: Re: Babtie / Oareborough Hill

> I sent a load of pictures concerning OH to you almost a week ago, but I
> haven't heard any reply, can you let me know whether you have received

them
> or not?

Yes, thanks I got 4, two are the ones I had from Howard, I have printed the
others out. Somme29a, with map in the middle, shows tracks that look like a
military style or 101 staright tread rather than tractor, but impossible to
be sure. Did you take them, or see them, and were they tractor?  Can it be
what babtie are claiming?

Chris

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From: Chris Marsden <Byway@compuserve.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 18:13:55 -0500
Subject: Re: Babtie / Oareborough Hill

> They are also registered enviromental impact assessors with the Institute

of
> Environmental Assessment.
> Their registered office is :-
> Babtie Group Ltd
> 95 Bothwell Street
> Glasgow G27HX

Methinks RB is but a small cog in a big wheel. She has bosses, who have
bosses, and when we have reasonable grounds for doubting what we have been
told, then they should be informed.

Any suggestions on how to determine what we all know, the damage is
considerably more than ordinary leisure vehicles, and the claimed tractors
pulling them out?

Chris

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