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1	"Dave Tilbury" [Dave@han	19	What we did for NGLD
2	TimLARA@aol.com	31	Re: Alleged Public Carriage Road/Public Footpath M168 : Heronfield to
3	"Dave Tilbury" [Dave@han	16	Further NGLD info
4	Susan Jeggo [derek.sue@v	11	Re: What we did for NGLD
5	TimLARA@aol.com	22	Re: HCC and EMail; BBC Countryfile programme
6	doghouse@cix.compulink.c	19	Re: What we did for NGLD
7	alan kind [alan@highwaym	23	Re: What we did for NGLD
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From: "Dave Tilbury" <Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 17:05:19 +0100
Subject: What we did for NGLD

Hi

Cleared 2 km of recently added bridleway.  One end a very pleasant old lane

school (loads of bottles and crisp packets - obviously poor discipline) on
some more then along an old railway track bed.

Turn-out: 8 equestrians; 5 trail riders; 2 4x4sters.  Thanks to the BHS for
organising such wonderful weather.

Dave Tilbury
Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
http://www.hants-lanes.demon.co.uk

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From: TimLARA@aol.com
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 12:07:08 EST
Subject: Re: Alleged Public Carriage Road/Public Footpath M168 : Heronfield to 
Chadwic...

In a message dated 26.3.99 02:33:21 GMT Daylight Time, Byway@Compuserve.com
writes:

<< 8  I do intend this is either dropped, or it IS in the public interest.  If
 not I will make my 'dissatisfaction'  of you carrying out a duty, before a
 power, which is patently UV, heard.
 
 9  Can you please advise in what way this is in the public's interest?  
 
 10, The sooner this can be settled, the less closer inspection to other
 instances of dereliction of the duty of the council is made.
  >>

I think in 8 you have power and duty interchanged? What they are doing is
using a power TO AVOID doing a duty, and that is doubly wrong. 

9 needs to come after 4, I think.

And 10 is an unnecessary threat. If you know of other problems, you should
attend to them independent of this case. Its like saying 'Have you stopped
beating your wife and if you don't answer I will report your scabby dog to the
RSPCA.'

Cheers, tim

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From: "Dave Tilbury" <Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 19:27:24 +0100
Subject: Further NGLD info

Hi

One thing I forgot to mention was that during our 5.5 hours on this new
bridle route we encountered 16 riders, 4 cyclists, and two walkers.  A much
needed route considering it has only been there a couple of months.  Well
done Carol (BHS rep) and HCC.

Dave Tilbury
Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
http://www.hants-lanes.demon.co.uk

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From: Susan Jeggo <derek.sue@virgin.net>
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 20:25:28 +0100
Subject: Re: What we did for NGLD

Good oportunity for some nice positive PR:
"user groups co-operating on Rightsof Way to relieve the financial pressures on
Highway Authorities" etc etc etc

Dave Tilbury wrote:

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From: TimLARA@aol.com
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 15:08:25 EST
Subject: Re: HCC and EMail; BBC Countryfile programme

In a message dated 27.3.99 00:15:46 GMT Daylight Time,
doghouse@cix.compulink.co.uk writes:

<< Again, it is worth remarking that at the date of the agreement, the
 application for a modification order had not been determined, there were no
 public rights recorded in the definitive map and statement and there was no
 conclusive evidence that public rights existed along the line of the route.
  >>
And of course if all we do is add it to the LoS there still won't be. But we
have forgotten that if we do, we will need to remove the obstruction, which
will allow the public to use the route, and then the Nettlecombe test will not
be met, and so the Byway claim will be valid, and so we will be back where we
started from if only we all live long enough.
And we have never heard of Lord Lane. He wansn't from round here, was he?

Cheers, tim

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From: doghouse@cix.compulink.co.uk (Michael Dyer)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 99 00:35 BST
Subject: Re: What we did for NGLD

Well I think that was fine and dandy, very handy ;-) Nice one DT I will 
mail Mike H for inclusion in the comics...

We (5 4x4s) and a JCB provided by Wokingham DC cleared along a stretch of 
Woodcock Lane, Shinfield, restoring drainage wherever we could get to it, 
we met several horse-riders, who thanked us (well we were standing on the 
rangeys roofrack trying to clear upwards) a female American jogger with 
Emphatic Biceps who smiled in a winning manner, and an old guy with a dog 
who started off telllling us we were the scum of the earth and ended up 
telling us that he'd write to the council praising us....so overall I 
guess we did summat right.

:-) Mick Dyer (doghouse@cix)

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From: alan kind <alan@highwayman.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 18:46:46 +0100
Subject: Re: What we did for NGLD

In message <bulk.19745.19990328080649@Land-Rover.Team.Net>, Dave Tilbury
<Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk> writes
>Hi
>Cleared 2 km of recently added bridleway.  One end a very pleasant old lane
>(the railway arch is only about 15 feet so no BOAT claim here), past a
>school (loads of bottles and crisp packets - obviously poor discipline) on
>some more then along an old railway track bed.

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>Turn-out: 8 equestrians; 5 trail riders; 2 4x4sters.  Thanks to the BHS for
>organising such wonderful weather.

Any piktoors, guv?

I'd delight to report such superb cooperation in B&B, but no bastard
never sends me nothing...

A

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