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From: "Tilbury" <Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:28:37 +0100
Subject: Re: "Trashy" television and mail subject lines (was: Re: Replying to
messages in such a way that it night make some sense to some readers somewhere
Correct - and proud of this fact :-)
Or - as RoWbo Cop would say - "I'll be Bod".
Anon
Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
http://www.hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
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From: "Tilbury" <Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:46:37 +0100
Subject: GLD
Hi
I hear that apart from the already reported TRF/BHS and Shires LR projects
others were out doing their bit. Some TRF members cleared a lane just
south of Hambledon that had become virtually impassable. Local equestrians
had cut a way through the adjacent woods and left the lane. These lads
cleared the lane but left a low tree to keep the horses off as the surface
is soft and used to become deeply poached. Crafty little beggers. Well,
the gee gees have their bypass!!
Before I get a slagging by riders I should point out that it is an area
where every house has a stable but none of the riders seem interested /
knowledgeable on RoW matters and it has been the TRF that has dealt with
obstructions and had the overgrown county roads cleared.
Dave Tilbury
Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
http://www.hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
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From: "Tilbury" <Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:32:04 +0100
Subject: Re: GLD Herefordshire.
I'm up for a spot of Hereford clearing. Haven't been up there since the
AWDC 20th anniversary.
Dave Tilbury
Dave@hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
http://www.hants-lanes.demon.co.uk
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From: Susan Jeggo <derek.sue@virgin.net>
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 11:32:35 +0100
Subject: Re: GLD
Tilbury wrote:
> Hi
> Before I get a slagging by riders I should point out that it is an area
> where every house has a stable but none of the riders seem interested /
> knowledgeable on RoW matters and it has been the TRF that has dealt with
> obstructions and had the overgrown county roads cleared.
Dave,
I think one of the problems is communication at local level. Last years P3
bulletin had a good bit about the local landrover owners doing voluntary work
in Cambs, but I did not know about this until I read the bulletin. And I did
not know much about GLD except from this newsgroup. If there was a way of
pulling all the willing bodies together it would do us all some good. Also, I'm
not defending riders who are not taking an interest, but many are children, and
perhaps not best suited to physical work. We do encourage riders to take on
voluntary work whereever possible (as for example the joint TRF/BHS project you
mentioned)
Sue
Cambs
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From: davidg@hwcces.demon.co.uk (David Goode)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:08:48 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Re: Area RoW Officer
> more details please of the "lots of excellent laning" where are they?
Just outside Worcs.County boundary in all directions, Cotswolds in
wet weather, Powys (there is a very thick boundary on the West which
we refer to as Herefordshire) and Gwent are always quiet, Glos. look
after their lanes better than average, Herefords. have several
interesting ones (s.p. in the North) but they pretend not to, Shrops.
have a large expanse of bandit country between the Long Mynd and
Wales, Warks are apparently trying to have less, but the jewel in the
crown is just to the NE and marked on the map as a Birmingham, I
don't know what one of these is - it's not on the legend.
cheers
(Do you recognise your own county from that description, Richard?)
David Goode davidg@hwcces.demon.co.uk
Environmental Services Dept
Hereford and Worcester County Council
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From: davidg@hwcces.demon.co.uk (David Goode)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:26:05 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: s116
I have a good instance today of the weak arguments of "not necessary"
although in this case it involves footpath.
L/O of Suckley Court says that the fp leading up his drive to the
farm is superflous because there is a much nicer one coming across
the adjacent fields from further along the same road and this one
also links into the fp network better.
L/O of fields next to Suckley Court drive says that the fp leading
across the fields is superflous because there is an alternative path
up the drive.
Both cases proved, and by extrapolation the rest of the RoW network
is also superflous.
q.e.d.
David Goode davidg@hwcces.demon.co.uk
Environmental Services Dept
Hereford and Worcester County Council
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From: davidg@hwcces.demon.co.uk (David Goode)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 14:05:57 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Re: HA80 s56
Mike Thomas says
> I object to the standard retort of 'you shouldn't travel alone' as I
> prefer to assess and take risks myself rather than be mollycoddled in a
> sterile world! (could that be *why* I'm in a wheelchair now?! ):
I too don't travel in convoy and part of the attraction for Mandy (my
wife) is that as she has MS it is the only way to get to deserted
bits of countryside - which are no longer deserted if there's a lot
of you. You are also freer to chose your own route and pace - we
never decide in advance, but it does mean that we need to assess the
route carefully. Vehicle rights are vital for many people to have any
meaningful access to the countryside.
cheers
David Goode davidg@hwcces.demon.co.uk
Environmental Services Dept
Hereford and Worcester County Council
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From: davidg@hwcces.demon.co.uk (David Goode)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 13:46:56 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Worcestershire
Charlie, or anyone else who knows
Do you know what evidence there is for a BOAT on the following:
Broadheath (near Worcester) Bridleway 36, SO 807556 to 820554 known
as Oldbury Road
cheers
David Goode davidg@hwcces.demon.co.uk
Environmental Services Dept
Hereford and Worcester County Council
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From: "David Wright" <Dave@oscroft1.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 00:18:54 +0100
Subject: Re: GLD Herefordshire.
Hi Chris,
I'm game to help out, and I'll see if I can rope some others in from Chester
area also ! let me know!
Regards
Dave
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From: "Mark Smith" <MarkSmith@dataip.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:33:00 +0100
Subject: Lane Numbering
Sorry to reopen this one, but did we actually decide on an agreed
form for lane numbering...
I believe it was Chris' scheme we settled on, with the two character
sheet ref, 4 digits to give the 1km square, then append a .0 - .9 for
direction N - S with .5 being East. The start being the most
Westerly, failing that the most Southerly (if due N-S).
If I standardise, I don't want to use a standard of my own (if you
see what I mean).
I would be grateful if someone could confirm if the above is still
true, or if things moved on whilst I wasn't listening.
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From: "Bill Richards" <bill@trf.freeuk.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:29:19 +0100
Subject: Cotswolds
<<< Dave said . . . . . .
On the new maps there's some OPRA dots marked from SP 089224 to 091232. Am I
right in
assuming that from the NE exit from the wood it becomes a dual-status UCR/bw
and that it
runs N to the tarmac lane at 092234 (next to the bridge over the stream) and
not ESE along
the track signed as a private road, public bridleway?
. . . . >>>
The OPRA is county rd 60519 and a most pleasing ride it makes, solid ground
like most of
the tracks in this area. From the X roads at 091232 going North to 091234 is
RuPP HGP12
(Guiting power). The bridleway heading East- west through this point I believe
has FA1910
evidence as carriageway (Charlie will confirm). I usually take the Eastern exit
along this
'private' rd because the RuPP usually has a few horses in the field and no
where to run
from a group of M/Cyclists, (anyhow theres some user for the bridleway :-) ).
Cheers, Bill.
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From: Chris Marsden <Byway@compuserve.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:35:42 -0400
Subject: s116
> Both cases proved, and by extrapolation the rest of the RoW network
> is also superflous.
> q.e.d.
Do you mean they have both been to court AND been stopped up? Together?
Chris
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From: TimLARA@aol.com
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:27:20 EDT
Subject: Re: Lane Numbering
It seems to make sense that the grid refs for any lane are given always with
the lower number first. This complies with the CJ criteria of Westerly first
or failing that Southerly, but it is much easier to remember or to put into a
computer program. A simple check of 'Is ref i smaller than ref ii, if not
then swap refs', works every time.
(For anyone new to grid refs, I do not mean that we abandon the rule of
'along the corridor and then up the stairs', but as each lane has two ends,
and those ends are different grid refs, you take each end's six figure number
as a simple number, and evaluate which is the smaller of the two. The reason
for having such a rule at all is that it avoids the same lane going down
twice, and makes a search for info on a lane easier to do).
Cheers, tim
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From: geoff@cix.co.uk (Geoff Campbell)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 1:03 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Re: GLD Herefordshire.
> What is the chance of getting a couple of week-end events, with 50 - 100
> people in many different groups all working together?
Chris, I would be honoured to help out, subject to any proposed dates
fitting in with my shift pattern. I can bring a nice large trailer and
towing vehicle along, should they be required.
Regards,
Geoff
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From: "Bod" <bod@bod1.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 04:45:53 +0100
Subject: Re: Lane Numbering
>computer program. A simple check of 'Is ref i smaller than ref ii, if not
>then swap refs', works every time.
Works every time except when the lanes runs N/S across a letter boundary -
then the northern end (and potentially the eastern end) is the start as the
letters are lower.
Cheers,
Bod
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