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Subject: Positions Available: UK Mailing List Administrator
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 21:00:39 -0500
From: William Caloccia <caloccia@OpenMarket.com>
Wanted: Mail-savvy English/Scottish/Welsh or Irish Land Rover Owner
to administer mailing list and mailing list digest serving
fellow LRO's stranded on large island off the coast of France.
Contact: caloccia@OpenMarket.Com
Tired of those annoying bits of UK Land Rover Mail during the day ?
write to majordomo@land-rover.team.net and
subscribe test
The UK/IE daily digest should be produced at 08:45 GMT
First one is on the 8th, but since I only started it at 2am your
time, it probably won't have any messages today.
no promises, but it could become the uk-lro-digest mailing list.
Cheers,
-B
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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 04:31:48 EST
From: steve_reddock@uk.xyratex.com
Subject: LR 1 Ford 0
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From: Steve Reddock
Subject: LR 1 Ford 0
Finally I have managed to get a working LR whilst there has been snow on
the road. Taking the scenic route into work to find some blocked roads
is mandatory in weather like this.
I was trundling down a hill which was covered in hard packed snow,
gently blasting the (air :-)) horns before the blind bends. After one
bend I found a woman trying to get her escort out of a small drift.
She claimed to be so scared by the horns as she thought it was a
juggernaut that she pulled over as far as she could...
Once stopped she couldn't get going again so I had to pull her to the
top of the hill.
Do I feel superior now or what!
This afternoon is a definite skive off work early to drive as high as I
can up Butser Hill & go sledging. After all I've got to prove to my
insurance company that I'm not that old!
Counting the hours to the end of my last meeting!
Have fun, Steve
Steve Reddock, Xyratex | Just as he thought he had
Ext.(01705) 486363 x4450 | clinched the interview he was
IBMMAIL (GBXYR96P) | visited by the ghost of Usenet
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 08:51:36 +0000
From: Ian Robinson <ian@fourx4.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: XCL tyers
In message <96Feb7.133110gmt.37235@oswald.worc.ac.uk>, Hazell Paul
<hazp1@worc.ac.uk> writes
>Does anyone have much experience with Michellin (how do you spell
[ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
>doubt I'll go for re-moulds on a radial casing (can't afford them
>new). Any thoughts on the above would be good to hear.
The XCLs were originally a 'sand tyre' which was popularised by military
use and found favour with some off roaders both leisure and commercial
because of their tall section which in muddy rutted tracks had the ability to
bite down through the mud to the hard surface beneath and thus maintain
traction. They would make about 13% difference to gearing (normal 750 x
16s only 11.5% but XCL have a taller section and therefore rolling
diameter). I'm not aware of them being available as remoulds.
A lot of people waste money with tyres. First accept that there is no
compromise tyre at all. For every gain in off raod ability there is a
corresponding loss in on road ability whether it be measured in mileage,
grip or noise. Secondly if you cannot afford the ideal which is two or even
three sets of tyres on rims for the different uses you may put your vehicle
to decide which is your main use and buy accordingly then put up with the
shortcomings in other departments.
We are having much success with a 'chunky' BF mud terrain patterned
remould which is available from our wholesalers in both 205 x 26 and 750 x
16 from 32.95 + vat for the smaller size. They are giveing reasonable
wear, superb grip and if you damage one on rocks or kerb you are
loosing a fairly small amount of value.
Regards, Ian
Forest Landrovers' 4 x 4 Centre
Royal Forest of Dean, Glos, UK
+44 (0)1594 822606/(0)402 000132
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From: LUCKING Richard <bu063@ist.co.umist.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 10:19:44 GB/EIRE
Subject: Re: V8 Custom S/S Exhaust?????
> thin metal (presumably because of it's higher quality) that they sound
> rediculous and you loose all the inherent V8 burble. Also exhaust are
> quite a science so be careful who you trust to much about with it as they
> could your performance drastically.
I would have to argue with this!
My dad has recently fitted a stainless exhaust to his Rover P5B (with
V8) and it now sound gorgeous - has me salivating every time I hear
it.... but then I am like that!
I also know of a LR 90 with V8 + SS exhaust and it also sounds
wonderful - especially when "working" round the farm....
IMHO go for it... get a SS, you (probably) won't regret it.....
Cheers
Richard
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Richard Lucking
phone:(0161) 224 6641 (Term) email:bu063@ist2.co.umist.ac.uk
(Flat 48)
Life is a Sexually Transmitted Disease, invariably fatal
Disclaimer: All opinions are my own, or so I've been told....
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 10:22:36 +0000
From: Ian Robinson <ian@fourx4.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: XCL tyers
In message <199602072044.UAA05804@carlton.innotts.co.uk>, Phil Taylor
<philt@innotts.co.uk> writes
>At 11:04 07/02/96 +0000, you wrote:
[ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
>>it?) 750R16 XCL tyres
<rest of discussion snipped>
You have to accept the basic principle with tyres that there simply is
NO COMPROMISE. It's a total trade off between on and off road credits.
Sounds like you have more experience than most with XCLs, and I would
sum that up by saying that they are good at getting down to where the
grip is, providing of course that there is grip down there somewhere.
All open treads are noisey on road.
Regards, Ian
Forest Landrovers' 4 x 4 Centre
Royal Forest of Dean, Glos, UK
+44 (0)1594 822606/(0)402 000132
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 12:40:21 +0000 (GMT)
From: Lester Gilbert <lg1@canterbury.ac.uk>
Subject: FC101 campervan conversion
I'd really like to hear from anyone who has seen, used, or even
undertaken a campervan conversion of the FC101 battlefield ambulance.
I've previously converted a VW Kombi back in '84 and then took it across
the Sahara from The Gambia via Mali, Niger, and Algeria in '90...
interesting...
I now would like to construct something a little more able to reach the
parts most campervans cannot, and I've been thinking pretty seriously about
the FC101 ambulance. It seems that I can purchase an ex-military
vehicle, originally manufactured in '72 (???) for about 5000 pounds, but
what would I then be letting myself in for?
All comments will be highly appreciated. Thanks. Lester.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Lester Gilbert
l.gilbert@cant.ac.uk
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Subject: 1998 celebration of the Land-Rover ??
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 11:14:23 -0500
From: William Caloccia <caloccia@OpenMarket.com>
------- Forwarded Message
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 16:40:56 +0100
From: bb@olivetti.dk (Bent Bohlers)
Subject: 1998 celebration of the Land-Rover ??
Please forward this to the lro digest list.
Thanks in advance
Bent Boehlers.
Danish Land Rover Club
____________________________________________________________________
Do anyone on this mailinglist have information about the date and time, when
the Land Rover factory in Solihull, will do the official celebration of the
best
off-roader ever build??
We are a group in Denmark, that have got the job, to prepair for pacipation
from
the Danish Land Rover Club. Therefore it would be nice to have the date, so
that
our members can plan vacation with their employer.
If other countries also are planning to paticipate or do something special,
I would be
very pleased to hear about it. Also e-mail or S-mail addresses of the
coordinating group
in Your country will be apreciated. It can give the possibiliti to make a
real international
arrangement.
Best regards
Bent Boehlers
S-mail: Bent Boehlers
Dyrholmen 26
DK-2730 Herlev
DENMARK
e-mail: bb@olivetti.dk
Phone: +45 44 926 442 Home
+45 40 380 150 Car
+45 43 466 596 Job
Fax: +45 43 437 954 Job
******************************************************
* *
* BBBBB BBBBB Bent Boehlers *
* B B B B Product Manager *
* BBBBB BBBBB Olivetti Service Division *
* B B B B DK-2600 Glostrup *
* B B B B Phone: +45 43466596 *
* BBBBB BBBBB Fax: +45 43437954 *
* E-Mail: bb@olivetti.dk *
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From: "Hazell Paul" <hazp1@worc.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 15:17:15 +0000
Subject: test
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 19:48:23 GMT
From: newconcept@tcp.co.uk (David Olley at NEW CONCEPT)
Subject: Re: LR 1 Ford 0
>gently blasting the (air :-)) horns before the blind bends.
I suppose you have an Air Con compressor powering the horns?
It is good to see that this (rare) habit is used by one so young! Most
people think horns are just for being rude, and react to them accordingly.
I, for one, like to know if traffic is approaching from the other side of a
blind bend. It is a shame that tractors never use them!
In Europe, use of horns is much more liberal, and reaction to their use
seems less likely to provoke paranoid or homicidal responses.
David Olley
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Winchester, England
Tel: +44(0)1962-840769 Fax : +44(0)1962-867367
Home Page: http://www.tcp.co.uk/~newconcept
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 07:44:18 GMT
From: Gerald Tan <gtan@bbchw.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Motorworld BBC2
Did anyone catch Clarkson on BBC2 last night, in the UAE?
Didn't it look brilliant fun? (& mad of course, driving a 4x4 on 2 wheels
sideways, BTW, how did he do that, if he didn't have cross-axle locks?)
A bit of showing off here...the other half managed to borrow a 38A (New Range
Rover) 4.6HSE last weekend, I wasn't allowed to drive it (boo-hoo), and I can
say that if I can afford >40k, I would go out and buy one tomorrow! It was
fantastic.
Gerald.
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| My own opinions, not those of my employer! |
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Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 03:59:24 EST
From: steve_reddock@uk.xyratex.com
Subject: Re: LR 1 Ford 0
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From: Steve Reddock
Subject: Re: LR 1 Ford 0
David said:
It is good to see that this (rare) habit is used by one so young! Most
people think horns are just for being rude, and react to them accordingly.
I, for one, like to know if traffic is approaching from the other side of a
blind bend. It is a shame that tractors never use them!
| I always have done and a hang over from the IAM training is that
| you use horns quite liberally.
Cheers, Steve
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Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 04:14:00 EST
From: steve_reddock@uk.xyratex.com
Subject: Warmest regards from...
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From: Steve Reddock
Subject: Warmest regards from...
Hi all,
I am off for a week of chassis painting, rewiring & gearbox rebuilding.
I have unsubscribed, but if by some chance majordomo is up to his
usual antics I'll still get postings.
In that case my mail manager will forward a nice note to you all
saying I'm not here. Should this happen could you unsubscribe me
please Bill C, so I don't face a lynch mob on return.
There is no way that the digest will be bounced to eveybody though.
And I promise not to have the words warmest regards anywhere is the
message.
Wonder if I'll finish in a week.
Hope you can cope without me, Steve
Steve Reddock, Xyratex | Just as he thought he had
Ext.(01705) 486363 x4450 | clinched the interview he was
IBMMAIL (GBXYR96P) | visited by the ghost of Usenet
Steve_Reddock@uk.xyratex.com | Postings Past.
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From: CJ BETTON N9203387 <n9203387@hud.ac.uk>
Subject: Voltage regulator output.
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 96 09:32:00 gmt
Hi all,
It's not snowing so I thought I'd send a query on the off chance that others
are also waiting for the snow to come.
Even in this freezing weather my temperature gauge is reading in the red
zone. The engine doesn't seem to be physically boiling, so I assume that the
voltage regulator is dodgy. (It's a series 2a with an aftermarket gauge, run
by the LR voltage regulator, so I can't look to the fuel gauge for
conformation of this theory.)
Last time I bought a regualtor it was about 6 GBP, so being a tight fisted
student, I looked in my Maplin catalogue and found a chip that will do the
job for a lot less. What I need to know is what is the output voltage of the
regulator, and what sort of current does the gauge draw?
Cheers,
Chris
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From: Tom Stevenson <gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: LR 1 Ford 0
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 09:50:39 +0000 (GMT)
On the twisty Brisbane Glen Road up to our shoot, there is a
particularly nast blind bend and humpback bridge. If you blow your horn
before going round, the road is always clear. If you omit to use your
horn, there is always a a Volvo 340 or a cyclist in the middle of the
road.
--
Tom Stevenson: gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk
University Marine Biological Station, Isle of Cumbrae, Scotland
Tel:(01475) 530581 Fax:(01475) 530601
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Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 05:38:58 EST
From: steve_reddock@uk.xyratex.com
Subject: Message for Bill C
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From: Steve Reddock
Subject: Message for Bill C
Bill, I have tried unsubscribing twice and I still get postings!!
Help.
Sorry for all those who have just been spammed by this note - I
don't know Bill The Hero's address.
I am sending a note to majordomo@land-rover.team.net with the lines
unsubscribe lro-digest
unsubscribe uk-lro
and all I get is a reply saying end of commands.
My a-disk will collapse under the load if I get sent a weeks worth of
stuff, without reading any.
Thanks, Steve
Steve Reddock, Xyratex | Just as he thought he had
Ext.(01705) 486363 x4450 | clinched the interview he was
IBMMAIL (GBXYR96P) | visited by the ghost of Usenet
Steve_Reddock@uk.xyratex.com | Postings Past.
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Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 10:27:56 +0000
From: asd1 <asd1@ukc.ac.uk>
Subject: WANTED
Has anyone outthere got a pair of 90 or 110 front doors for sale
as I need a pair for my SIII 109.
Neadless to say cost is improtant, as well is location, I'am in
DOVER.
You can mail me direct on asd1@ukc.ac.uk
P.S I cant read my mail after 5.pm friday, untill Monday morning.
cheers
ASD
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From: "E D O'BRIEN" <bt5179@qmw.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 11:06:32 GMT0BST
Subject: Free-Wheel-Hubs
I'm just about to recieve a pair of free wheel hubs to fit to my SIIA
SWB (1963) I assume someone out there must have done a similar
operation, so can someone tell me a little about the operation like
how easy/difficult its going to be?
Thanks
Ed O'Brien.
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From: "E D O'BRIEN" <bt5179@qmw.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 11:14:23 GMT0BST
Subject: horns
With so much talk of horns does anyone know of a more powerful horn
that I could put on my SIIA as such a horn would realy have to run
off the existing wiring as I'm not to keen on putting in relays all
over the place. I'd also like to know where I would get such an item
at a reasonable price, especialy as I'm student running of a fairly
tight budget.
thanks
Ed O'Brien
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From: Graeme Booth <Graeme.Booth@src.bae.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 96 11:32:46 GMT
Subject: FOR SALE(?) - 650x16 Military wheels&tyres
I have, sitting in my garage, a stack of five (mixed) military-ish
tyres - off my S3 ltwt.
I have : 2 - Firestone SATs
2 - Michelins
1 - er, remould of some description!
all 'on the wheel' (16").
I should confess that they are pretty run down (balding), but the
wheels are OK, i.e. buy the wheels and get a set of tyres free!
Anyone got any idea as to their worth? Fiver, the lot? No,
seriously. I'm open to offers, if there are any. You never know your
luck - as I'm trying to get rid of them!
I changed all five in December of last year for Falken 23585 radials
on 16 inch white Mangels. What a tart! Needless to say, the ride is
unbelievable compared to the previous set.
Where I'm going to put the spare is a bit of a problem as I don't
think my visibility will be any good if I plonk it on the
bonnet. Anyone got any experience in fittings for the inside (ie
behind the driver seat for example?
Cheery bye
Graeme
PS good to see the list picking up again - well done Bill for the
changeover! A few of us (well me anyway) got a bit worried for a
minute that the LandyNet would be finished......[wipes tear from
eye]!!!!
PPS I'm Bristol based if anyones interested in the wheels (with FREE TYRES!)
--
+--------------------------------------------------------------+
| From :- Graeme D Booth |
| Research Aerodynamicist |
| /\ Applied Aerodynamics |
| / \ Aerodynamics & Vulnerability |
| /| |\ British Aerospace (Operations) PLC |
| /\| |/\ Sowerby Research Centre |
| /\ | | /\ F.P.C. 267 |
| /__\|__|/__\ P.O. Box 5 |
| /____________\ Bristol BS12 7QW |
| | | |
| |__| Phone :- (01179) 363949 |
| Fax :- (01179) 363733 |
| e-mail:- Graeme.Booth@src.bae.co.uk |
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 13:33:33 GMT
From: newconcept@tcp.co.uk (David Olley at NEW CONCEPT)
Subject: Re: FOR SALE(?) - 650x16 Military wheels&tyres
>Where I'm going to put the spare is a bit of a problem..................
Anyone got any experience in fittings for the inside (ie behind the driver
seat for example?
>Where I'm going to put the spare is a bit of a problem..................
The other reason for not putting the spare on the bonnet is that it is
extremely heavy!
I fitted a set of 7.50x16 tyres to 5 new Mangels 16x7 wheels, and decided to
put the spare inside, behind the crew bulkhead. The thought of the bonnet
coming down on my head gave me the horrors.
On my SIII 88" there is pair of galvanised brackets on the centre rear of
the bulkhead, just at the right height, with a useable hole. I actually used
a bottle screw (from my boating ditty box) attached to this bracket, passing
through the centre of the wheel and then to a 12" length of 2"x1" timber
placed across the wheel centre. The bottle screw allows the arrangement to
be tightened against the bulkhead, where it remains dry, clean and secure.
Cost was next to nothing.
Of course you must then ensure that your bonnet latch is perfectly adjusted,
because, without the spare to hold it down, wind can lift it up, up and away.
David Olley
............................................................................
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Winchester, England
Tel: +44(0)1962-840769 Fax : +44(0)1962-867367
Home Page: http://www.tcp.co.uk/~newconcept
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Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 10:53:41 EST
From: steve_reddock@uk.xyratex.com
Subject: Re: FOR SALE(?) - 650x16 Military wheels&tyres
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From: Steve Reddock
Subject: Re: FOR SALE(?) - 650x16 Military wheels&tyres
|Of course you must then ensure that your bonnet latch is perfectly
|adjusted, because, without the spare to hold it down, wind can lift it
|up, up and away.
Or more worryingly up, up and through your face!
Rubber bonnet hooks are a couple of quid from most go faster car
spares shops.
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 19:38:42 +0000
From: Kevan Shaw <kevan@krshaw.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Capstan Winch
Well, after many false starts, interruptions aggravations and delays I
have now got a capstan winch fitted to my Landrover. I would value any
advice anyone can offer regarding self recovery techniques. I am also after
a suitable winch rope, so far I have been offered lots of conflicting
advice as to what is most suitable, and some really silly prices from my
usual rope supplier for something not quite the same as David Boyer
reccommended in his article in LRO last year. Can anyone reccomend a rope
type, length and supplier from personal experience or even better if anyone
has a rope they no longer need and is in good nick I would be interested
in buying it.
The winch I have is a Fairey CG which I understand is Coast Guard pattern,
it has a smooth bollard and is rated at 3000lbs. I also have a question
about shear pins, the one supplied has 3Q stamped on the head, is about 4mm
in diameter and about 13mm long and it seems a very loose fit in the
driveshaft. Anyone know if it is the right type?
Thanks for the help,
Kevan Shaw
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Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 21:53:53 +0000
From: canford@dial.pipex.com (Peter Barton)
Subject: Re:Spare tyre home
Graham Booth wrote::::
>Where I'm going to put the spare is a bit of a problem as I don't
>think my visibility will be any good if I plonk it on the
>bonnet. Anyone got any experience in fittings for the inside (ie
>behind the driver seat for example?
Quickly checking his new (secondhand) parts manual, for the series IIa he
finds the very thing. Yes, its the official LR spare wheel bracket, for
fitting to that convientlly placed galvanized bracket with the two holes
in it, centrally behind the driver.(as described by David Olley)
So for what its worth (if they're still available) her are the part No.
Clamp for spare wheel 303847
Tie bar 302933
Wing Nut 302934
and one 1/4" UNF bolt 1" long
No idea of the price, but not as cheap as David's suggestion
Regards,
.........................................................................
Peter Barton e-mail: canford@dial.pipex.com
Computer Dept. Phone : +44 (0) 1202 841254
Canford School
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 17:37:48 +0000
From: Ian Robinson <ian@fourx4.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Free-Wheel-Hubs
In message <29FB6401C0@qmwcc5.qmw.ac.uk>, E D O'BRIEN <bt5179@qmw.ac.uk>
writes
>I'm just about to recieve a pair of free wheel hubs to fit to my SIIA
>SWB (1963) I assume someone out there must have done a similar
>operation, so can someone tell me a little about the operation like
>how easy/difficult its going to be?
It's easy. Depending on the make the instructions should be in the box
and are clear. Make sure that you select 4 x 4 for at least one journey
a week to maintain the splash lubrication to the upper swivel pin and
it's railko bush housing. My usual advice is to ONLY select 4 x 2 for
that rare long journey when the fuel saving may be apparent.
Regards, Ian
Forest Landrovers' 4 x 4 Centre
Royal Forest of Dean, Glos, UK
+44 (0)1594 822606/(0)402 000132
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 17:39:41 +0000
From: Ian Robinson <ian@fourx4.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: horns
In message <2A1C991DA6@qmwcc5.qmw.ac.uk>, E D O'BRIEN <bt5179@qmw.ac.uk>
writes
>With so much talk of horns does anyone know of a more powerful horn
>that I could put on my SIIA as such a horn would realy have to run
[ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
>at a reasonable price, especialy as I'm student running of a fairly
>tight budget.
Use a relay for anything extra on the electrics.
Regards, Ian
Forest Landrovers' 4 x 4 Centre
Royal Forest of Dean, Glos, UK
+44 (0)1594 822606/(0)402 000132
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Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 19:50:23 -0800
From: Julian May <JMAY@CQM.CO.UK>
Subject: playtime
Woke up this week to 12 inches of snow and falling..
My colleagues could not work out why, with a 4x4, I left home 30 mins early
and arrived at work 1.5 hours later than normal...
Of course, it is entirely coincidental that I have to pass miles of narrow
backroads on the way to work (:-)).
Have fun,
Julian
Disco '96
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