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1 "Steve Reddock" [steve_r30Looking to buy a LWB SIIA/III
2 Gerald Tan [gtan@bbchw.d26Borg Warner Transfer Box RR '89 Model Year onwards
3 JAMES O-SHEA [SAC3JNO@ca18Sparks, plugs & videotape
4 Ben Leamy [B.K.C.Leamy@u27Re: Looking to buy a LWB SIIA/III
5 "Steve Reddock" [steve_r25Sparks, plugs & videotape
6 CJ BETTON N9203387 [n92023RE: Sparks, plugs & videotape
7 Ian Robinson [ian@fourx423Re: Looking to buy a LWB SIIA/III
8 "Steve Reddock" [steve_r26How to remove underseal
9 David Olley at New Conce34Re: Borg Warner Transfer Box RR '89 Model Year onwards
10 Ian Robinson [ian@fourx422Re: Sparks, plugs & videotape
11 David Olley at New Conce27Re: Borg Warner Transfer Box RR '89 Model Year onwards
12 smitha@mail.CandW.lc 41Joy riders crash-test 90
13 Ian Robinson [ian@fourx420Re: Looking to buy a LWB SIIA/III
14 Ian Robinson [ian@fourx424Re: Sparks, plugs & videotape
15 bartlett@hlalapansi.win-70Re: Africa Expedition
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 04:56:28 EST
From: "Steve Reddock" <steve_reddock@uk.xyratex.com>
Subject: Looking to buy a LWB SIIA/III

*** Resending note of 27/02/96 21:53
|by virtue of not having synchromesh. This is I suppose is believable but
|perhaps there are some better informed persons out there.
|Trefor. tdelve@nectech.co.uk

  
There is a critical shaft in the IIa which is a significantly larger
diameter than the III.  This makes it stronger.  I don't know how
the lack of synchro makes it stronger.
  
|Ps. Did you fix your gearbox Steve ?.
  
Not yet!  It could be all the noise was coming from the broken mount,
that would explain why there was only noise under acceleration, not
under severe engine braking.  The oil which came out was in very good
condition, considering it had been there for 6 months and had seen
some very deep wading.
  
The transfer box is currently lying on the garage floor beside (but not
attached to) the main box.  Complete set of seals and gaskets are in the
conservatory.  I can't be too long before all the bits make it back
together.  I hope.
  
Cheers, Steve
  

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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 10:48:32 GMT
From: Gerald Tan <gtan@bbchw.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Borg Warner Transfer Box RR '89 Model Year onwards

Sorry to say this David (Gerald pipes up meekly), but.......

The Viscous Coupling Unit (VCU) is fitted across the centre differential (not 
instead of it), to automatically lock the differential when a significant speed 
difference between front and rear prop shafts is sensed. Land Rover 
optimistically state that it will lock up after half a wheel's revolution, but 
that's another story.

If you take a Borg Warner box apart, you will find the two discreet components 
present, a viscous unit (cylindrical thing), and a centre differential assembly, 
which if you consequently disassemble, you will find familiar components of a 
diff (bevel gears, pinion gears etc).

Corrections to your web page perhaps? :-)

Sorry!. Gerald.
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| Purely my own opinions - not those of my employer                       |
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From: JAMES O-SHEA <SAC3JNO@cardiff.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 11:27:57 GMT
Subject: Sparks, plugs & videotape

Thanks to all for the vital advise on head removal and valve 
grinding, I'm about to go and put the grinding advise into practice 
for a couple of hours, but before I go I'd like to leave you all with 
a question on my next job...spark plugs.  Which plugs would you 
recomend I use for the best performance from my 2.25 SII Landy. Has 
anybody ever used a set of the SPLITFIRE plugs advertised in LRO and 
LRW or should I just go for the standard ones. Also, is this double 
copper technology just champion's latest standard or is it a kind of 
performance upgrade?

James O'shea
SAC3JNO@Cardiff.ac.uk

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From: Ben Leamy <B.K.C.Leamy@uel.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 12:25:34 GMT
Subject: Re: Looking to buy a LWB SIIA/III

> *** Resending note of 27/02/96 21:53
> |I have been told in the past that the SIIA 'box is stonger than the SIII
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
> diameter than the III.  This makes it stronger.  I don't know how
> the lack of synchro makes it stronger.

I have spoken to someone who says that the SIII gearbox is weaker 
because the actual cogs are thiner in order to provide space for the 
synchromesh inbetween them. Therefore those without synchro have 
thicker cogs, greater bearing suface etc.

Anyone know if the six cylinder 2.6 petrols can run on unleaded?

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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 08:28:31 EST
From: "Steve Reddock" <steve_reddock@uk.xyratex.com>
Subject: Sparks, plugs & videotape

*** Resending note of 28/02/96 13:21
|Also, is this double copper technology just champion's latest standard
|or is it a kind of performance upgrade?
  
Double copper is the latest thing (well it's a few years old).  It is
worth the extra though as the plugs will not need regapping as often.
In that respect it will make your engine happier.  Nothing like slowly
eroding plugs to make gradual decrements in the little performance
you had to start with.
  
Double copper just means both electrodes are made of copper, rather
than the softer stuff they are made of in normal plugs.
  
NGK also do double copper (an observation not a recomendation - I don't
know what is best for a LR).
  
Safety note: Dropping a cylinder head on you foot will hurt.
  
Have fun, Steve
  

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From: CJ BETTON N9203387 <n9203387@hud.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: Sparks, plugs & videotape
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 96 13:46:00 gmt

Hello James,

>Thanks to all for the vital advise on head removal and valve
>grinding, I'm about to go and put the grinding advise into practice
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 9 lines)]
>copper technology just champion's latest standard or is it a kind of
>performance upgrade?

I havent used splitfires, and would also like to know if there any good. 
I've used Bosch platinum ones, theese seemed to give a slight power 
increase. Unfortunately I cant find them anywhere now, anybody got any 
ideas? I'm currently using NGK v-groved ones. Theese are quite good, but not 
as good as the platinum ones. The worst plugs I ever used where NGK standard 
plugs, theese are awful.

Hope this helps,
Chris

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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 08:54:38 +0000
From: Ian Robinson <ian@fourx4.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Looking to buy a LWB SIIA/III

In message <313365F9@parodius>, Trefor Delve <delve1t@nectech.co.uk>
writes
>All,
>Prompted by Bens question about SII/SIII gearboxes, I wonder if anyone   
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)]
>by virtue of not having synchromesh.  This is I suppose is believable but   
>perhaps there are some better informed persons out there.
Yes it is stronger. It's strong because of the stoutness of the layshaft
with it's seperate gears as opposed to the series 3 in which the
layshaft is a one piece item. The 2A doesn't have synchromesh on 1st/2nd
gears only. If you are contemplating putting one into a Ser 3 you it
will fit straight in but you will have to replace the clutch and modify
the hydraulics.

Regards, Ian
                Forest Landrovers' 4 x 4 Centre
                Royal Forest of Dean, Glos, UK
                +44 (0)1594 822606/(0)402 000132

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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 08:32:16 EST
From: "Steve Reddock" <steve_reddock@uk.xyratex.com>
Subject: How to remove underseal

Hi all,
  
I have found the easiest way to remove underseal. I tried a blow torch.
Lots of flames and toxic smoke. No thanks.
  
Then I thought a bit more and dug out my steam wallpaper stripper. It
has a hose with a wall plate on the end. Just remove the wall plate and
hey-presto a steam hose.
  
This way the bitumen softens enough to scrape off easily but never gets
so hot that it decomposes.
  
It only cost 20 quid and did a lovely job on the bathroom wallpaper as
well.
  
Safety note: Poking the steam nozzle in your eye may hurt.
  
Steve Reddock, Xyratex       | Just as he thought he had
Ext.(01705) 486363 x4450     | clinched the interview he was
IBMMAIL (GBXYR96P)           | visited by the ghost of Usenet
Steve_Reddock@uk.xyratex.com | Postings Past.

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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 18:54:15 +0000
From: David Olley at New Concept <newconcept@tcp.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Borg Warner Transfer Box RR '89 Model Year onwards

Gerald Tan wrote:
> The Viscous Coupling Unit (VCU) is fitted across the centre differential (not
> instead of it),

Thanks for that Gerald. I am glad that someone who has obviously looked at the 
drawings (or maybe inside a box) has come to my aid. I based my text on 
"hearsay", which was obviously incorrect. I am a simple Series soul, and cannot 
be expected to know about these fancy quiet, warm, comfortable vehicles!

I cannot see why a diff should be used, however, since it's only purpose is to 
allow for minor front/rear revolution differences. This is surely done by the 
VCU. Is this another case of design overkill? A cone clutch, rather like the old 
electro overdrives would surely be sufficient to lock the front/rear drive 
train.

I would love to see a drawing from the manual, showing the design. Any chance 
that you could fax me a copy?

Anyway, in the interests of accuracy, I will amend my web page on the subject.

If anyone else sees nonsense in my mutterings, I will be happy to be rebuked.

-- 
David Olley
.....................................................................................
Winchester, England
Tel: +44(0)1962-840769      Fax : +44(0)1962-867367
    Home Page:  http://www.tcp.co.uk/~newconcept
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 23:03:44 +0000
From: Ian Robinson <ian@fourx4.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Sparks, plugs & videotape

In message <31345DFA@hermes.hud.ac.uk>, CJ BETTON N9203387
<n9203387@hud.ac.uk> writes
>Hello James,
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 21 lines)]
>as good as the platinum ones. The worst plugs I ever used where NGK standard 
>plugs, theese are awful.
Why. That's not been my experience over thousands of 'em. !

Without taking issue over a small point, I hate these generalisations
which can condemn a product based on little if any scientific trial.
Admittedly my trails haven't been that scientific but they are a lot
wider based and I swear by NGKs
 
Regards, Ian
                Forest Landrovers' 4 x 4 Centre
                Royal Forest of Dean, Glos, UK
                +44 (0)1594 822606/(0)402 000132

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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 00:09:14 +0000
From: David Olley at New Concept <newconcept@tcp.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Borg Warner Transfer Box RR '89 Model Year onwards

Gerald, thanks for faxing me the drawings from the RR Manual.

They show very clearly the transfer box (epicyclic reduction gears) and 
the VCU. They do not show any detail of a differential unit, however. It 
appears to be contained within the hub of the driven sprocket which 
drives the VCU. I wonder what the diff unit looks like.

Item 7 in the drawing, though, is the reduction gear assembly, not the 
diff.

Thanks (but is there a drawing showing the diff?).

BTW I should cure my vibrations when I get a chance to deal with the 
gearbox. I suspect the bearings are shot.

-- 
David Olley
.....................................................................................
Winchester, England
Tel: +44(0)1962-840769      Fax : +44(0)1962-867367
    Home Page:  http://www.tcp.co.uk/~newconcept
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From: smitha@mail.CandW.lc
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 20:21:09 -0500
Subject: Joy riders crash-test 90

Warmest greetings from St. Lucia
This morning I parked in an empty lot near my lab, and went to work. At 
lunch time, anticipating a relaxing hour on my verandah on the beach, I 
returned to the lot to find my vehicle 50 yards away, on the other side of 
the lot, with its nose smashed into the galvanised-iron sheeting fence 
around someone's yard. 
The vehicle was still locked, the ground was flat, it was in 2nd gear, and 
the battery was so dead that it probably won't be revived. 
I have had problems with the ignition switch for the past 2 weeks and have 
been expecting a replacement contact unit from the UK any day. So the first 
 thought was that the defective contacts had activated the starter, which 
had driven the car through the brush to crash into the wall. So, rip out 
the dash and steering column covers, extract the ignition contact unit (and 
if you have ever tried to remove both of the screws that hold it in, while 
the ignition/steering lock unit is in situ, you know what a pain it is). 
Then prise open the contact unit and find ..... ants! Hundreds of the 
buggers, live, squashed or electrocuted, all had contributed to weeks of 
problems, culminating in a  hot-wired joy-ride into an unresisting wall. 
After evicting the Hymenopteran joy-riders, and replacing the battery, 
everything worked, much to my surprise. I had expected a melt-down of the 
starter and other wiring. 

When I had the 90 custom-made last year, one of the many options was an 
under-body screen to prevent small animals from climbing into a warm engine 
bay at night and then getting the cuisinart treatment from the fan in the 
morning. They didn't tell me that 2mm long ants could totally disable one 
of Solihull's finest!
One last thing, with reference to today's postings of crumple zones, I only 
had to wipe some rust dust off my front bars; the iron fence is remodelled 
with a fold >. That makes 3 times that the bar has saved the front end - 
contact with loose cows and horses (a problem here and the reason I had the 
unit fitted) and now this. 
Allan Smith
300 Tdi 90   el Galeon
St. Lucia

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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 22:58:27 +0000
From: Ian Robinson <ian@fourx4.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Looking to buy a LWB SIIA/III

In message <65F49074615@bkadmin.uel.ac.uk>, Ben Leamy
<B.K.C.Leamy@uel.ac.uk> writes
>> *** Resending note of 27/02/96 21:53
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 15 lines)]
>synchromesh inbetween them. Therefore those without synchro have 
>thicker cogs, greater bearing suface etc.
Rubbish....the layshaft is stronger.

>Anyone know if the six cylinder 2.6 petrols can run on unleaded?

Yes, no.
Regards, Ian
                Forest Landrovers' 4 x 4 Centre
                Royal Forest of Dean, Glos, UK
                +44 (0)1594 822606/(0)402 000132

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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 22:56:42 +0000
From: Ian Robinson <ian@fourx4.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Sparks, plugs & videotape

In message <2D378CE354C@main2s.cf.ac.uk>, JAMES O-SHEA
<SAC3JNO@cardiff.ac.uk> writes
>Thanks to all for the vital advise on head removal and valve 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)]
>copper technology just champion's latest standard or is it a kind of 
>performance upgrade?

NGK BP5ES

I swear by them and that's based on literally thousands.

Regardless of what performance improvement claims you get NONE will be
noticeable in you engine and the reliability of NGK's cannot be beaten
at present.

Regards, Ian
                Forest Landrovers' 4 x 4 Centre
                Royal Forest of Dean, Glos, UK
                +44 (0)1594 822606/(0)402 000132

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From: bartlett@hlalapansi.win-uk.net
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 96 23:06:56
Subject: Re: Africa Expedition

Hi Ian, Ed, all,

Good to see a posting from someone planning an Africa expedition. Although I am not a seasoned expeditioner, I have done a fair amount of off-road exploration around Southern Africa, including South Africa, Namibia, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Malawi and Lesotho. It is really great fun out there in the wilds with only mother nature for company. I would certainly be happy to chip in with my experience - I have various documents and sources of information that may be useful. Basically I think the most important things are:

- Allow twice as much time as the longest you would dream necessary
- Don't underestimate how much money you will need
- Never be in a hurry, ever
- Keep a sense of humour at all times
- Be careful and never take unnecessary risks for the hell of it.
- plan your trip and plan for things not to go to plan

I have received a couple of postcards from Barry Dudley, who set out with a few others from South Africa last June hoping to travel all the way to the UK, aiming to arrive around christmas time. The last I heard they had got to Kenya, but were having a rave. Latest plan is to make UK by summer. I'll post any news I hear from him, if anyone is interested.

Best of luck

David.
(Green with envy)

>Hi all

>Replied in person to Ed O'Brien's letter concerning his expedition.
>Thought I would also send a letter to the list as the subject may be
>of interest to some.

>____________Beginning of included letter ___________

>Hi Ed,

>Saw your note on the list and read it with interest. I am planning to
>drive to Uganda this summer. Myself and my wife (to be) are going to
>be working in a school in a village near Kampala. We are planning to
>drive to Uganda in a LWB SIII full of stuff for the school.

>As far as equipment goes, we are planning on taking a diesel because
>I have been told that it is more plentiful and cheaper than petrol.
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
>overhauled as well. I don't know if this is going 'over the top'
>or not.

>Desirable equipment would include a high lift jack, a winch of some
>sort, somewhere to sleep (a roof top tent?- lots of pennies).  You
>mentioned shipping to Mombassa. Do you know how to arrange this and /
>or how mch it costs? It would be rather desirable as it would mean
>avoiding all the trouble spots in N. Africa.

>I will also send a copy of this to the list. It would be good if we
>could get a general Africa bound thread going as I am after much the
>same info.

>Keep in touch.

>Ian

>_____________End________________________

>Any hardened/Armchair expeditioners out there with advice / comments?

>Have fun.

>Ian

_______________________________________________________
bartlett@hlalapansi.win-uk.net
at home

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