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2 "Steve Reddock" [steve_r15Re: Perkins problems...
3 "Paul Hazell" [p.hazell@27 Re: speedo problems
4 "Seymour, Gareth" [GSeym14Mechanical winch
5 PETER ESTIBEIRO - CGR [P19 Re: LWB brakes
6 Carl Butler [cjb1000@che23power steering.
7 "T.Stevenson" [gbfv08@ud19LWB brakes
8 PETER ESTIBEIRO - CGR [P35 Re:Sleeping on an Africa Expedition
9 Ian Robinson [ian@fourx428Re: speedo problems
10 Ian Robinson [ian@fourx462Re: Poor Brakes
11 Mr Ian Stuart [Ian.Stuar17 Re:Sleeping on an Africa Expedition
12 "T.Stevenson" [gbfv08@ud23IAM
13 PETER ESTIBEIRO - CGR [P16 Re: speedo problems
14 PETER ESTIBEIRO - CGR [P18 Re:Sleeping on an Africa Expedition
15 "T.Stevenson" [gbfv08@ud22Speedos
16 [Glen_Rees@parlon2.ccmai28Mechanical winch
17 "Steve Reddock" [steve_r37Speedo
18 Ian Robinson [ian@fourx433Re: Power steering!
19 "Steve Reddock" [steve_r23IAM
20 Mr Ian Stuart [Ian.Stuar24 Re: speedo problems
21 M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk (Mik11Re: speedo problems
22 "Paul Hazell" [p.hazell@44 Re: Speedo
23 PETER ESTIBEIRO - CGR [P14 Re: speedo problems
24 lopezba@atnet.at 29Re: Poor Brakes
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27 Stephen Thomas [THOMSE-U19Re: Perkins problems...
28 David Olley at New Conce34Re: Perkins problems...
29 David Olley at New Conce18Re: IAM
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 09:52:02 GMT
From: "T.Stevenson" <gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Subject: LWB brakes

>four bottles of fluid and countless re-adjustments the brake peddle still

goes >to the within 1" of the floor on the first press.

There is a good trick in this month's LRW mag regarding LWB front brakes,
making them easier to bleed. The flexy pipe is extended to the bottom
cylinder, so that the bleeding is done from the top cylinder, where the air
collects.
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Tom Stevenson  gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk
University Marine Biological Station
Millport, Isle of Cumbrae, Scotland

Tel 01475 530581
Fax 01475 530601
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 04:38:09 EST
From: "Steve Reddock" <steve_reddock@uk.xyratex.com>
Subject: Re: Perkins problems...

*** Resending note of 03/12/96 23:17
David said:
|A bit like running the engine on Brylcreme!
  
I leaves your hair in a similar state to Brylcreme as well (allegedly).
A true LRO driver uses EP 90 in their hair, but you all knew that
didn't you {:-)
  
Cheers, Steve
  

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From: "Paul Hazell" <p.hazell@worc.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 10:31:43 +0000
Subject:       Re: speedo problems

I said (snippets):
>"If we say the *speedo* is reading 50mph but your real road speed is
>55mph (i.e. your speedo under reads)........This is on 205 tyres.
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
>55mph. BUT, and here the clever bit, your speedo will still read 
>55mph."

You said:

>No mention of changing speedo, just the tyres. So if the speedo was 
>reading 50 at 55 on 205 tyres, then on 750 tyres it should read 45 at 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 12 lines)]
>Am I crazy?
>David Olley

I don't know anymore.........its all become to much.......

No, I doubt you'r crazy, I'm just confused =-(..... I'll let you know 
what happens when I can afford to put 750s on! :-)

Paul Hazell (SIII Lt/wt)

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From: "Seymour, Gareth" <GSeymour@mp.sihe.ac.uk>
Subject: Mechanical winch
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 10:46:00 PST

Hello all,

As my regular laning buddies use mechanical drum winches on their series III 
motors, I was wondering if it was possible to fit one to a V8 Range Rover. 
Is there a totaly different winch or just the linkage. There always seem to 
be plenty of mechanicals around cheap more so than the electrical variety.

gareth 

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From: PETER ESTIBEIRO - CGR <PETERE@srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk>
Date:          Wed, 13 Mar 1996 11:13:09 +0000
Subject:       Re: LWB brakes

>I've just replaced the brake master cylinder on my 2.25 D SIIA 109. After
>four bottles of fluid and countless re-adjustments the brake peddle still
goes >to the within 1" of the floor on the first press.

>There is a good trick in this month's LRW mag regarding LWB front brakes,
>making them easier to bleed. The flexy pipe is extended to the bottom
>cylinder, so that the bleeding is done from the top cylinder, where the air
>collects.

I've often wondered about this, why are the double cylinder brakes 
'wired' from the top?  

Peter.

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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 11:45:46 GMT
From: Carl Butler <cjb1000@cheng.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: power steering.

Just to clarify a point.

I wrote

> I spoke to a local LR dealer who reassured me that even if all the 
fluid
> > were lost there wouldn't be any immediate problem, apart from heavy
> > steering.  Any views on this.

I'm  sorry if this lead to confusion.  I didn't mean to say that the dealer had 
said it was OK to drive without any fluid;  rather that there probably wasn't 
going to be any major failure *before* I'd noticed the steering had become very 
heavy,  thus indicating fluid loss and the need to stop to prevent damage to 
pump and box etc.

Thanks for the replies so far - any further comments welcome

Carl

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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 11:47:24 GMT
From: "T.Stevenson" <gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Subject: LWB brakes

>I've often wondered about this, why are the double cylinder brakes 
>'wired' from the top?  

Because the peversity of the Universe tends towards a maximum.

If you use a pressure bleeder, getting the air out is less of a problem though.
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Tom Stevenson  gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk
University Marine Biological Station
Millport, Isle of Cumbrae, Scotland

Tel 01475 530581
Fax 01475 530601
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From: PETER ESTIBEIRO - CGR <PETERE@srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk>
Date:          Wed, 13 Mar 1996 11:59:27 +0000
Subject:       Re:Sleeping on an  Africa Expedition

Geoff

>Where are you?
>Is it Galvanised?
>How much do you want?

>How far back am I in the queue?

I'm about 10 miles south of Edinburgh so may not be conveniently 
close to you.

I don't think the roofrack is galvanised because it has always been 
painted since I've had it, but the access ladder is.  It all seems to 
be in good condition but if you are really interested I'll check it 
over and let you know

The price depends on the condition but will be no more than 75 
pounds (make me an offer I need the space).  I'll have a good poke at
 it if you like and re-assess.  It 
was completely solid two years ago but has been lying in my garage 
since then.

I'll swap it for a left hand front wing (inner and outer) for an 86" 
(1956) series I which I desperately need, if you have one :-)

So far you are the queue! 

Cheers 
Peter.

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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 10:25:40 +0000
From: Ian Robinson <ian@fourx4.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: speedo problems

In message <96Mar12.122627gmt.36872@oswald.worc.ac.uk>, Paul Hazell
<p.hazell@worc.ac.uk> writes
>>Are you running on 750 x 16 size tyres; this could account for the 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 17 lines)]
>205r16s and I thought this may be the problem (i.e. the opposite to what 
>you'r suggesting!) Without making it to convoluted here is my reasoning 
>for it (I know the speeds are wrong, its just to explain):
Right, Let's start again. What's the vehicle, LWB or SWB

Speedo readings will be more or less accurate if a LWB is on 750 x 16s
and a SWB is on 600 x 16s or the *almost* radial equivalent of 205 x 16.

Switching from one to the other will make approx 12% difference i.e.
speedo will read 12% either fast or slow depending which way you've
gone. But...............you may find that someone has changed the speedo
housing on the back of the transfer box, or the transfer box, or
replaced the gerabox with one from a LWB and vica versa.

Regards, Ian
                FOREST LANDROVERS' 4 x 4 CENTRE
                Royal Forest of Dean, Glos, UK
                +44 (0)1594 822606/(0)402 000132
                http://www.star.co.uk/forest

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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 11:30:27 +0000
From: Ian Robinson <ian@fourx4.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Poor Brakes

In message <01BB1081.B82552E0@carney.ftech.co.uk>, Paul Cooper
<paul.c.cooper@carney.ftech.co.uk> writes
>Could any one help !!!!!
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)]
>mean solid ( no slow sinking with 13 stone's standing on it ).
>Could any one help. Am at a loss and must be missing some think.
I think we should organise a FAQ on this list !

Why did you change the master cylinder ? Presumably you had a problem
previously. But in the absence of knowing what it was the proceedure for
bleeding the brakes is as follows:

As an abridged version which has never failed us:

Adjust all the brakes up tight. Start with the wheel furthest from the
master cylinder and move towards the master cylinder (NSR, OSR, NSF, OSF
unless its RHD) and dealing with each cylinder in turn bleed with slow
deliberate pedal strokes the whole distance of
pedal travel unless it's a dual system in which case three quarters of
the distance (don't guess...use a block). If it's not clear, then it's
not clear so do not proceed in the hope that it mmay clear even when
you're not bleeding it !. Adjust each wheel so that they only
just rotate freely. Try the pedal. If it's any less than right using
three brake pipe clamps (not vice grips) clamp off all the flexibles as
near to the wheel cylinder as possible. Try the pedal if it's not right
your problem is with the master cylinder or the flexibles. If it's right
your problem is still with the wheel cylinders. To identify which
release the rear hose clamp first. Allow a couple of moments then try
the pedal, if it's right (but may be slight lower) your problem is with
the front. If your problem is still with the front then release each in
turn to find out which. Concentrate your bleeding accordingly.

Some of the problems that *could* fool you that we've encountered not
only with DIY maintenance but also referals from other garages include.

Incorrect spring locations between shoes.

Incorrect fitting of shoes, particularly on a LWB rear.

Incorrect shoes

Incorrect wheel cylinders (Too large a diameter for the application)

Excessive wear in drums thus the excess travel of shoes gives the
impression of air in the system.

Incorrect master cylinder for the application (there are about 6
different cylinders on Series 3s).

As a final tip we have known a problem vehicle cure itself by
leaving it overnight for the fuild to settle.

Regards, Ian
                FOREST LANDROVERS' 4 x 4 CENTRE
                Royal Forest of Dean, Glos, UK
                +44 (0)1594 822606/(0)402 000132
                http://www.star.co.uk/forest

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From: Mr Ian Stuart <Ian.Stuart@ed.ac.uk>
Date:          Wed, 13 Mar 1996 12:29:26 +0000
Subject:       Re:Sleeping on an  Africa Expedition

Peter,

Where you on the SLROC green road run starting from Arrocher?

Did you borrow a starting handle from a guy in a white 109?

     ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer)        +44 31 650 6205
Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University. 
 <http://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/> or <http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~kiz/>

Quote of 1996: "A.L.S. is a good example of scotissityness"

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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 12:42:19 GMT
From: "T.Stevenson" <gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Subject: IAM

>Which is the cause of almost all accidents. Not that the speed was too
>high for the road conditions, more like the speed was too high for the
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>driver's observational skills.
>Join the IAM, it could be the best thing you ever do!
I joined the IAM and went along for some lessons for a while when I lived
down south. This all lapsed when I moved.
The best bit was trying to give an audible commentary in a rag top IIa,
closely followed by trying to keep up with speed limits above 50mph.
 
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Tom Stevenson  gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk
University Marine Biological Station
Millport, Isle of Cumbrae, Scotland

Tel 01475 530581
Fax 01475 530601
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From: PETER ESTIBEIRO - CGR <PETERE@srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk>
Date:          Wed, 13 Mar 1996 12:53:28 +0000
Subject:       Re: speedo problems

Ian Robinson writes:
> >>Are you running on 750 x 16 size tyres; this could account for the 
> >>10mph
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 27 lines)]
> housing on the back of the transfer box, or the transfer box, or
> replaced the gerabox with one from a LWB and vica versa.
I'm confused now.  I always thought the speedos were different but 
the thing in the transfer box was the same, is this wrong
Help
Peter.

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From: PETER ESTIBEIRO - CGR <PETERE@srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk>
Date:          Wed, 13 Mar 1996 13:00:58 +0000
Subject:       Re:Sleeping on an  Africa Expedition

Ian,
> Where you on the SLROC green road run starting from Arrocher?
> Did you borrow a starting handle from a guy in a white 109?

 Yes, I've still got your starting handle.  Its in the back of my 
Landrover waiting till I see you again.  BTW it didn't fit.  I have a 
series II radiator in my series I and its a few mm too low to get the 
starting handle in.  Oh well, back to the drawing board..... :-)

Are you at KB? you could have it back tomorrow.
Cheers 
Peter.

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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 13:45:13 GMT
From: "T.Stevenson" <gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Subject: Speedos

>gone. But...............you may find that someone has changed the speedo
>housing on the back of the transfer box, or the transfer box, or
>replaced the gerabox with one from a LWB and vica versa.

Is it not the case that on Series LRs that the speedo drive in the gearbox
is identical regardless of wheelbase; the different tyre sizes are
accommodated by having different speedometers for LWB & SWB vehicles?
90 & 110 models however have the same speedo but different speedo drive
gears in the transfer box.
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Tom Stevenson  gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk
University Marine Biological Station
Millport, Isle of Cumbrae, Scotland

Tel 01475 530581
Fax 01475 530601
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Date: 13 Mar 96 08:48:22 EST
From: <Glen_Rees@parlon2.ccmail.compuserve.com>
Subject: Mechanical winch

     >Gareth writes 
     
     >Hello all,
     
     >As my regular laning buddies use mechanical drum winches on their 
     >series III motors, I was wondering if it was possible to fit one to a 
     >V8 Range Rover. Is there a totaly different winch or just the 
     >linkage. There always seem to be plenty of mechanicals around cheap 
     >more so than the electrical variety.
     
     The capstan winch can be fitted to the Range Rover, it was done on the 
     Darrian Gap vehicles, and was fitted BEHIND the radiator grill. It got 
     a mention in LTOI some while back.
     I would imagine it is rather difficult to use in this position, 
     especially if you get a riding turn around the drum. 
     
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                               (25 YEAR TAX EXEMPT)  
     
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 07:34:31 EST
From: "Steve Reddock" <steve_reddock@uk.xyratex.com>
Subject: Speedo

My turn now.
  
The speedo measures prop shaft speeds. If you fit bigger tyres you will
travel further for each rev of the prop.
  
The prop revs are conveniently converted to MPH, handy as speed limits
are posted in the same scale!
  
If you travel further for the same number of revs you are going faster
than you think. ie the speedo will now under read.
  
Is this any clearer?
  
My rally car (a Metro) has an Allegro estate diff, a Mini speedo drive,
larger tyres than any other A-series engined car and a Metro speedo. The
net result of this (purely by chance) is that the MPH calibrated speedo
reads exactly kilometers per hour!
  
If anybody official complains all I have to do is tippex out the letters
MPH and replace with Km/H.
  
It's quite amusing to tell passengers who enquire about the speedo
accuracy that it over reads by about 10%. It takes then ages to work
out how they are still alive having just taken a tight roundabout in
excess of 100 MPH =:-O
  
I'm not a hooligan, honest!
  
Steve Reddock, Xyratex       | Just as he thought he had
Ext.(01705) 486363 x4450     | clinched the interview he was
IBMMAIL (GBXYR96P)           | visited by the ghost of Usenet
Steve_Reddock@uk.xyratex.com | Postings Past.

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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 10:36:04 +0000
From: Ian Robinson <ian@fourx4.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Power steering!

In message <24097.9603121151@one.cheng.cam.ac.uk>, Carl Butler
<cjb1000@cheng.cam.ac.uk> writes
>Has anyone out there had any problems with power steering,  as fitted to a 1985
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 9 lines)]
>of fluid,  (onto the road)  after which the problem seems to cure itself and 
>everything is fine again for a few weeks.  This has happened three times

Sorry, I've never met this one.

>Is there a maintenance kit for any seals in the power steering system which may 
>be worth looking at?
>110 csw?  Recently,  I have had a couple of occasions where,  when starting off 
Yes, if the top plate of the box is triangular or square the kit is
STC2848 superceeded from STC1042, list price 21.69 + vat ukp. Ours are
cheaper, call for details if you're interested.

>I spoke to a local LR dealer who reassured me that even if all the fluid were 
>lost there wouldn't be any immediate problem,  apart from heavy steering.  Any
> views on this.

It could sieze the power steering pump which I beleive relys on the
fluid for it's lubrication. I was always told to remove the drive belt !

Regards, Ian
                FOREST LANDROVERS' 4 x 4 CENTRE
                Royal Forest of Dean, Glos, UK
                +44 (0)1594 822606/(0)402 000132
                http://www.star.co.uk/forest

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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 09:01:10 EST
From: "Steve Reddock" <steve_reddock@uk.xyratex.com>
Subject: IAM

*** Resending note of 13/03/96 13:44
|The best bit was trying to give an audible commentary in a rag top IIa,
|closely followed by trying to keep up with speed limits above 50mph.
  
I know the problem, I have two 'plane pilots headsets which I keep
meaning to fix so I can use my intercom.  Slight legal problem
with having both ears covered, but I don't think it will have an
affect on the safety so why not.  I always plan to use the old
excuse of "the ear you couldn't see was uncovered, officer" if stopped
as I regularly listen to my walkman on the move.
  
I doubt the IAM examiner would accept that excuse though!
  
Keeping under the speed limits in the V6 is the trouble I usually
have (right foot problem, not sticking throttle)!
  
Regards, Steve
  

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From: Mr Ian Stuart <Ian.Stuart@ed.ac.uk>
Date:          Wed, 13 Mar 1996 14:58:43 +0000
Subject:       Re: speedo problems

Quoting PETER ESTIBEIRO - CGR, from 13 Mar 96

> > Switching from one to the other will make approx 12% difference i.e.
> > speedo will read 12% either fast or slow depending which way you've
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 9 lines)]
> I'm confused now.  I always thought the speedos were different but 
> the thing in the transfer box was the same, is this wrong
Nope - gearbox speedo takeoff is different (and I've got the wrong one in 
my gearbox :(

there may well be a difference between the SWB & LWB speedos, but it ain't 
a gearing one...

     ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer)        +44 31 650 6205
Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University. 
 <http://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/> or <http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~kiz/>

Quote of 1996: "A.L.S. is a good example of scotissityness"

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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 16:03:19 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: speedo problems

>there may well be a difference between the SWB & LWB speedos, but it ain't
>a gearing one...

There is...and it isnt.The speedo is calibrated differently internally.
I think it is to do with the level of magnetisation in the instrument.
Mike Rooth

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From: "Paul Hazell" <p.hazell@worc.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 17:06:08 +0000
Subject:       Re: Speedo

Steve Reddock wrote:
>The speedo measures prop shaft speeds. If you fit bigger tyres you will
>travel further for each rev of the prop.
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
>than you think. ie the speedo will now under read.
>Is this any clearer?

Now this is more like it, I can grasp this! 

I guess the simple answer is: is there anybody out there who was on 205 
tyres (and there speedo was accurate) and now on 750s (and it under 
reads)? if so you're right Steve and I'm wrong (which seems pretty 
likely!)

Can someone confirm the above? If you do I think my speedo is f***ed, or 
my head, or both..... ;-)

Paul Hazell (SIII Lt/wt 1972)

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From: PETER ESTIBEIRO - CGR <PETERE@srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk>
Date:          Wed, 13 Mar 1996 16:56:38 +0000
Subject:       Re: speedo problems

> >there may well be a difference between the SWB & LWB speedos, but it ain't
> >a gearing one...
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
> I think it is to do with the level of magnetisation in the instrument.
> Mike Rooth
Does this mean that the speedo drive thing in the transfer box is the 
same then, after all?
Peter 

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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 21:44:09 +0100
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: Poor Brakes

>Could any one help !!!!!
>I've just replaced the brake master cylinder on my 2.25 D SIIA 109. After 

four bottles of fluid and countless re-adjustments the brake peddle still 
goes to the within 1" of the floor on the first press. Then gradually comes 
up to what I would consider normal travel 2-2.5". At this point the peddle 
is solid, and I mean solid ( no slow sinking with 13 stone's standing on it ).
>Could any one help. Am at a loss and must be missing some think.
>Many thanks 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>Many thanks 
>Paul
Paul - this is probably an insult, although it is not meant as one - but did 
you bleed the brakes properly? Started at the r/h rear wheel cylinder and 
worked your way around? And what about the master? I seem to remember it is 
supposed to be really akward to get the air out of the SIIA master cylinder 
since it tilts upwards and the bleeding screw is at the bottom. The best way 
to do it is on a very steep incline, which will hopefully get the air to the 
front wheel cylinders. Sorry if you did all this, but the symptoms sound 
like *air in the brakes somewhere*!
Regards,
Peter Hirsch
SI 107in S/W
Vienna, Austria (officially 1,000 years old this November 1)

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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 21:43:53 +0100
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: Perkins problems...

>Geoff Wilkin wrote:
>> Its probably condesation mixing with the oil, a symptom of not getting
>> the engine hot enough,

>I would tend to agree with that as the most likely cause. Driving to and 
>from university each day at speeds between 30 and 50 mph (depending on 
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>changed at very short intervals.
>-- 
>David Olley

David - I don't know about L-R diesels, but I have to disagree with the 
generalisation. Usually short distance use is no problem at all for a 
diesel. Take taxis - they do not get many long runs, but mostly are driven 
for a few miles, and then stand for a while. My *real* car is a diesel, and 
on weekdays I drive about five miles to the office and five miles back. The 
engine has done about 120,000 km now, no repairs so far (touch wood), and 
precious little in the way of oil changes, either. So if this is not a known 
L-R phenomenon, I would look elsewhere.

Since I will probably buy a SI with a diesel engine in a couple of months, I 
will let you know in case the menu is humble pie...

Regards
Peter Hirsch
SI 107in S/W
Vienna, Austria (officially 1,000 years old this November 1)

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From: Geoff Venn <geoff@venn.demon.co.uk>
Date:          Wed, 13 Mar 1996 20:03:55 +0000
Subject:       Unknown engine

I have recently become part owner of a 1968 MkIIa SWB that has been converted
to diesel. The engine does not look like a standard Landrover unit. 
The previous owner thinks it is a 'BMC 2200' and
the engine number is 22UA/KA/D3090.

Can anyone help me identify it so that I can attempt
to find a service manual.  
-----
Geoff Venn  geoff@venn.demon.co.uk
Somerset, TA14 6RG, UK
Tel +44 1935 822974

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From: Stephen Thomas <THOMSE-U@m4-arts.bham.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 11:08:47 GMT
Subject: Re: Perkins problems...

> David said:
> |A bit like running the engine on Brylcreme!
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> didn't you {:-)
> Cheers, Steve
Must be why my head smells so funny
Stephen
    _____  ________________________________________________________
  |/_|_\| 'Andy'-IIa 2.25 Diesel | "The apples don't fight the
  [|~#~|]  For Sale-2200 ono     | tangerines in Fruitopia. People
   U~~~U                         | could learn a lot from fruit."
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Stephen Thomas - 0121 452 1405 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 http://www.birmingham.ac.uk/english/bibliography/SteveLiam/home.htm

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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 23:32:15 +0000
From: David Olley at New Concept <newconcept@tcp.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Perkins problems...

lopezba@atnet.at wrote:
> My *real* car is a diesel, and
> on weekdays I drive about five miles to the office and five miles back. The
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> precious little in the way of oil changes, either. So if this is not a known
> L-R phenomenon, I would look elsewhere.

Vorsprung durch technik.

Your real car is no doubt a modern lightweight diesel, designed for modern city 
conditions. I don't think the Land Rover lump was envisaged to do such duty. 
All Series vehicles are inclined to be overcooled, and short runs will not get 
them up to a decent working temperature. A modern car diesel, on the other hand 
is no doubt designed with a more advanced cooling system which will allow a 
more rapid warm up.

I may be talking rubbish, and a diesel engineer will shoot me down. But all the 
experts I have ever spoken to (and that includes the Land Rover factory diesel 
engineers) told me more or less this.

Enjoy the SI.

-- 
David Olley
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Winchester, England
Tel: +44(0)1962-840769      Fax : +44(0)1962-867367
    Home Page:  http://www.tcp.co.uk/~newconcept
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 23:39:24 +0000
From: David Olley at New Concept <newconcept@tcp.co.uk>
Subject: Re: IAM

Steve Reddock wrote:

> I regularly listen to my walkman on the move.

Could you please repeat the benefits of IAM membership, Steve.

-- 
David Olley
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Winchester, England
Tel: +44(0)1962-840769      Fax : +44(0)1962-867367
    Home Page:  http://www.tcp.co.uk/~newconcept
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 23:39:31 +0000
From: David Olley at New Concept <newconcept@tcp.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Speedo

Paul Hazell wrote:
> I guess the simple answer is: is there anybody out there who was on 205
> tyres (and there speedo was accurate) and now on 750s (and it under
> reads)? if so you're right Steve and I'm wrong (which seems pretty
> likely!)

I'll try to keep this simple for you this time Paul.

I was on 205 tyres.
I changed to 750 tyres.
My speedo now under reads.

I would not have expected it differently.

Sit down with your old maths books and figure it out.

I am a rude old Series III sod and make no apology.

Perhaps you should perform the check I suggested in my posting to your 
original enquiry, which could sort out your common speedo problem. Theory 
cannot replace the spanner!

-- 
David Olley
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Winchester, England
Tel: +44(0)1962-840769      Fax : +44(0)1962-867367
    Home Page:  http://www.tcp.co.uk/~newconcept
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From: stretch@vol.net
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 96 03:24:07 PST
Subject: RE: G/Box noise identity ???? 

Sorry to jump in with what may be only remotely related, but can 
anyone comment from experience on the following, which I suspect is 
something to do with the drum brake:

Overall, brake works fine...when decelerating and passing from 
about 15 to 5 mph, there is a clunky, rotational sort of rattle... 
sometimes I can feel it in the gear stick and/or the floor.  
Clearly, whatever it is has some mass to it (drive shaft or brake).

When I first bought the vehicle, it had the noise...dealer "fixed" 
an out-of-round brake drum...fix lasted about 200 miles, then came 
back.

Any ideas?  What is it/how do I fix it?  Does it indicate a 
developing problem.

Thanks in advance
---------------Original Message---------------
S.W. Brierley wrote:

> it kinda sounds like a small bell being tinkled constantly, a 
sort of 
> dingalinggalinggaling.

mssg clipped for brevity

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Name: jcollins
E-mail: stretch@vol.net
Temp assgn:  Hong Kong
Date: 03/12/96
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