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Date: 25 Apr 96 20:07:26 EDT
From: Richard Brownlee <101360.3273@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Lro Digest

Glen Rees wrote:

> getting ready for the summer foray into the lanes or swatting for 
> exams?    Or have I upset Majordomo and been disconnected?

     
I guess the American contingent have been having fun with their Tax returns - oh
goody we will have the same system in a few years I reckon.

The digests have been a bit sporadic, but I  don't mind - better than nothing.

I personally have been busy keeping out of my wife's hair (exams).  Going
greenlaning a lot seemed to do the trick - shame, but it has led to a couple of
late nights/early mornings when I have been digging myself out of assorted
Surrey mudholes and silage ditches (smelly one that).

I went to Bagshot last week - good fun but expensive - I'll marshall next year
cos they get in for free and have just as much fun, and am going to Boxgrove,
Chichester this sunday.  Anyone else going there?

Regards to all

Richard Brownlee

Surrey UK

77 Range Rover

PS Used SATS/Trackers etc wanted for the above -cheap. Ta

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Date: 25 Apr 96 20:07:43 EDT
From: Richard Brownlee <101360.3273@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Gone quiet (LRO List)

Richard Marsden's queries (those I can answer anyway)

>1.) Uneven running. I understand this is a textbook symptom of a bad
>carburettor/one that needs servicing/cleaning.
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>going by the adverts (also costs more). I have a Webber - is this a standard
>MoD replacement?  Are Weber meant to be better, and if so, in what way?
>(I know sod all about the things)

If an in line fuel filter is fitted, replace it as you are probably sucking up
debris from the bottom of the tank (rust etc.) Check the filter bowl under the
pump for muck. Try draining the tank when it has a few gallons in it. Drain into
a suitable container, then pour through a coffee filter and repeat a couple of
times.  If you can slosh the fuel around a bit when you have returned it to the
tank before redraining it will help to remove as much debris as possible.

Webers, IMO are not as good as a well rebuilt Zenith.  Zeniths can be rebuilt
easily using a rebuild kit, as long as the spindle bushes are not too worn
(these can be replaced if necessary).  The genuine workshop manuals have got
good instructions on rebuilding these carbs, alternatively there are carburettor
reconditioning firms around that than do it for you.

The weber carb allegedly gives improved mpg, but they do this by strangling the
engine and I have had to thrash the vehicle more to get the same power, which
really defeats this advantage. They also are not supposed to be as reliable at
extreme angles of dangle - but my nerve will give out before this I imagine.   

Try disconnecting the fuel line as it goes into the carb, aim it into a large
jam jar or similar, then pump the hand primer to check all is well - you should
get a healthy squirt of fuel. If not the diaphragm in the pump is worn.  Next
disconnect the HT lead at the coil,  and get someone to operate the starter - if
you got a healthy squirt earlier, you should should do here - if not, the pump
rocker arm is worn.

Alternatively you could have a crack near the bottom of the pick up pipe in the
tank - try changing it for the other one.
 
>2.) I was hoping to do all sorts of things to the vehicle between buying it
>and a trip to Scotland at the end of June. Most of these (eg. new seats)
>look unlikely, although I have prioritised some:

>(no particular order)

>1.) Kenlowe fan (on order)

easy - make it a little quieter as well  

>2.) Add a 12V supply + radio/casette (Noise? What noise? OH! JUST PLAY IT
>A *BIT* LOUDER!)

a big amp would be handy - big big noise with less distortion

>3.) Soundproofing. There seem to be a whole range of soundproofing kits
>on sale in the UK. Does anyone have any experiences they wish to share?
>I was thinking of getting one of the vinyl ones (about L100) - water &
>oil proofing sounds like a good idea, me thinks.

Definitely get everything proof ones

>4.) Free-wheel hubs (possibly)

IMO not a priority

>5.) Fuel (tanks). I have the twin- 10gallon mil jobs, but my left-hand
>tank leaks, so I'm limited to 1 10 gallon tank on a lwb beastie!!
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>          somekind of storage box??)
>                More of a faff in the short term.
>(then civvie filler hoses can be added at a later date)

If you fit a LWB tank, you will have to connect up the civvie hoses as well. The
cutout for the filler insert is quite easy to fit - just follow the golden rule
- always cut the hole undersize then file out to fit.  This is a lot easier than
the other way round.  Yep I've been there.
It would be easier to remove the tank yourself from a breakers as you can then
get all the other little bits and measure it up at the same time. 

>I'd prefer to do (b.) I think, although it means fitting new pipes, wiring,
>and cutting a hole for the new filler. It does have the advantage of more
>fuel capacity, and having the fillers on the same side of the vehicle
>(have you tried filling up, with fillers on opposite sides???  :-) )

While I think about it, check your fuel filler cap gaskets.  They have a
tendency to dry out and crack - It won't improve your performance but would make
you a lot safer.

>Any suggestions/comments anyone? I have a minimum of tools (decent
>spanner set and growing hammer collection,

ah my favourite proverb - If in doubt hit it with a hammer.  If that doesn't
work use a bigger hammer.  If you are still having problems, read the
instructions.

> but more specialist tools are
>currently a bit lacking [but growing in number]. A flat working area is a
>bit lacking, but I can use the road (I live on a cul-de-sac) for short
>periods (and only block one house off!).
>How easy is it to cut holes to add new filler hoses to mil. tanks?

Forget it

>How easy is it to cut holes for the civvie hoses?  Although eager,
>I do lack metalwork skills (and tools), but would like it to look neat
and professional.

Good luck

Any problems I am sure there are many people out here willing to confuse you
further.

Any opinions expressed are my own. Any mistakes, errors or omissions are
probably down to this computer.

Richard Brownlee

Surrey UK

77 Range Rover

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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 10:37:19 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Tracker Remoulds,A Warning

My '70 11A diesel is fitted with 205 16 Tracker remould radials.
Perfectly satisfactory in respect of rate of wear,ride,grip etc.
However,the N/S front tyre wore badly on the outside couple of inches
of the tread(the only reason I can postulate for this is four daily
journeys of three miles with three roundabouts.This town *loves* its
roundabouts).Whislt having a look at this tyre,I noticed that the
inward facing sidewall had splits in it.Tread wear I could live with but not
this!
Coming out of work last night I was presented with a flat N/S rear tyre.
Two horsehoe nails,as it happened.Whizz off down to tyre repair place,
and guess what?Splits in this inward facing sidewall as well.
There do not appear to be such splits in the O/S tyres,and the rears
were fitted some months before the fronts,on the changeover from Xply
to radial,so it is unlikely to be a bad batch.
I hasten to add that the replacement tyres are of the same pattern,but
those of you with these tyres fitted may like to get on your hands and
knees and have a look at the state of the sidewalls,just in case.
Bear in mind that the N/S is *supposed* to be the "light" side in terms
of weight,as well.Tyre pressures until recently,25 psi all round,increased
a couple of months ago to 28 all round,with,I think,some benefit from a
handling viewpoint.Pattern of useage mostly roadwork,with a daily trip or two
of about a half mile on a roughish farm track.
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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Subject: Hey ! I'm back on thisside ofthe pond for a couple weeks.
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 06:45:15 -0400
From: William Caloccia <caloccia@OpenMarket.com>

I'll be in cambridge - land of unwelcome leaking landies...
on e-mail... this w/e in Hounslow...
if anything is happening may day bank holiday pleae write me back.

    Cheers,
        --bill  	caloccia@OpenMarket.com
                 http://www.OpenMarket.com/personal/caloccia/
       http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/~majordom/lr/
   R  1  3  2wd  H		  D
   +--|--|   o   |             L  3	Land Rovers First
      2  4  4wd  L             |  2	    because
   '63 SIIa RHD 88"            H  1	Land Rovers Last
      793-PTA            '90 RR County

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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 12:35:17 +0100 (BST)
From: "T.Stevenson" <gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Subject: RR for sale

My bro-in-law has a Range Rover for sale.
It's an A-reg white four-door with 3spd Chrysler auto gearbox , recent EFI
engine.
In the Leicester area. He's looking for about 3500 pounds
Get in touch with me if anyone is interested.
>.

 Tom
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From: rostek@balu.kfunigraz.ac.at (Rostek Wolfgang)
Subject: lost adress
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 13:58:44 LOCAL

hi all 

I unforunately have lost the email adress of Aron, and I cant find him on the 
list, can anybody help?

thanks Wolfgang 

Austria

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From: Glen_Rees@PARLON2.CCMAIL.CompuServe.COM
Date: 26 Apr 96 09:16:01 EDT
Subject: Re: Lro Digest

     Richard writes
     
          >late nights/early mornings when I have been digging myself out   
          >of assorted Surrey mudholes and silage ditches (smelly one       
          >that).
     
     I also spend a lot of time in various smelly silage holes in Surrey, 
     we must compare notes.
     
          >I went to Bagshot last week - good fun but expensive - I'll      
          >Marshall next year cos they get in for free and have just as much    
          >fun,

For the first 3 years that Bagshot was run, I and a few others helped set up
and marshal the Bagshot show.   A few words of warning.  Some, if not most, 
of the marshals do not keep to the agreed timetable for shift changes. On 
more than one occasion I recall being stuck at a marshal point for hours on 
end without the relief turning up. I hate to say it, but I think a lot of 
people volunteer for the job, clock on, get the sweatshirt & f'off!

Most of the Marshal's volunteer for the off road coarse, which tends to get 
overcrowded with people playing in the waterholes, whilst the sections off 
the alpine track are the ones which require more tuition and guidance. Having 
said that, we did get a lot of satisfaction form teaching (appreciative) 
novice drivers how to tackle some of the sections.

On a more cynical note: Think of the profit Chris Jones is making, by not 
having to pay or make a donation to the marshals.  

Cheers
Glenn

PS: Driving around all day on that hoggin shreds your tyres!!
> Subject: Lro Digest
> Author:  INTERNET:101360.3273@CompuServe.COM at CSERVE
> From: Richard Brownlee <101360.3273@CompuServe.COM> 
> Subject: Lro Digest

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> 77 Range Rover
> PS Used SATS/Trackers etc wanted for the above -cheap. Ta

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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 13:53:18 EDT
From: "Steve Reddock" <steve_reddock@uk.xyratex.com>
Subject: ARC Nationals

Can someone post details of when, where etc.  I know it's just
outside Brighton, but that is a bit vague!

I understand David Olley's Newconcept stand is the meeting point,
and messages can be left after purchasing an air lift jack :-)

I will try to get there, but perhaps not by my LR.

Thanks, Steve

Steve Reddock, Xyratex       | Just as he thought he had
Ext.(01705) 486363 x5209     | clinched the interview he was
IBMMAIL (GBXYR96P)           | visited by the ghost of Usenet
Steve_Reddock@uk.xyratex.com | Postings Past.

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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 13:35:18 EDT
From: "Steve Reddock" <steve_reddock@uk.xyratex.com>
Subject: UK LRO list?

*** Resending note of 25/04/96 09:23
     Steve,

|Your note re:Sgt A.Nally Retentive being promoted was the last mail I
|got from the list.
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|     Regards
|     Simon Wilson-Taylor....who used to be gainfully employed!

I'm not guilty.  I didn't unsubscribe you.  In fact I haven't
unsubscribed anybody yet.  I have bounced a few to the digest for
various misdemeanors like perpetually full mail boxes.

If anybody does get unsubscribed it is more likely to be down to a
temporary fault, so once you are online enough to realize you are
bounced/unsubscribed it is fairly safe to resubscribe.

I think your getting cut off happened a bit before I did - I have
no idea what happened.  Feel free to resubscribe.  The list appears to
have sprung into life in the last day or two.

Regards, Chief Inspector A.Nally-Retentive.
LRO Submissions Police, Majordomo division.

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