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1 Ian Robinson [ian@fourx430Re: Sorry! its tyres again. (fwd)
2 Stephen Firth [steve@fir25Re: Sorry! its tyres again. (fwd)
3 M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (M31Re: Sorry! its tyres again. (fwd)
4 marsden@digicon-egr.co.u36Re: Sorry! its tyres again. (fwd)
5 Trefor Delve [delve1t@ne38Speedo/Gearbox problem
6 "T.Stevenson" [gbfv08@ud26Re: Speedo/Gearbox problem
7 ukctoll@ukpmr.cs.philips22re-building an overdrive
8 "Paul Hazell" [p.hazell@24 Migrating oil
9 Trefor Delve [delve1t@ne11Migrating oil - Me Too
10 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em12Re: your mail
11 Graeme Booth [Graeme.Boo46Murphy of Murphy's Law has got a lot to answer for!
12 lopezba@atnet.at 22Re: Positive earth
13 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em15Re: Positive earth
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Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 16:46:06 +0100
From: Ian Robinson <ian@fourx4.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Sorry! its tyres again. (fwd)

In message <9605130804.AA12457@doyle.digicon-egr.co.uk>, Richard
Marsden <marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk> writes
>> heard of "Alliance" tyre made in Israel.   I have two 7.50 X 16s on the
>> front of my SIIa and would like to match these with some of the same.  Ah!
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)]
>tyres would a high-street tyre supplier (Kwik-fit, Halfords/etc) be able
>to supply something like this?

God forbid ! Stick to a specialist, any specialist. (Oh what a pleasure it is
to tow Land Rovers and Range Rovers away from these fast fit outfits when
they can't even fix them at any speed !) Unless you support the specialsist
they won't be there when you need them and I don't really see the fast fit
cowboys getting involved in the dirty or difficult of which there's pleanty on
Land Rovers and Range Rovers. Wouldn't be too profitable for them would
it.

Incidently many jobs would be cheaper if the cowboys hadn't 'creamed' off
the highest profit margin items. They now want to get involved in brakes so
please take all your difficult brake bleeding jobs to them.

Regards, Ian
                FOREST LANDROVERS' 4 x 4 CENTRE
                Royal Forest of Dean, Glos, UK
                +44 (0)1594 822606/(0)402 000132
                http://www.star.co.uk/forest

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Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 08:39:00 +0100
From: Stephen Firth <steve@firthcom.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Sorry! its tyres again. (fwd)

marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden) wrote:

>I'm in the market for tyres too. My SIII came with 7.50x16 Mud Terrain tyres.
>As I haven't taken it offroad (yet), I'm thinking of choosing All Terrains
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>tyres would a high-street tyre supplier (Kwik-fit, Halfords/etc) be able
>to supply something like this?

I'd avoid KwikFit and similar, phone around and check prices, the high
street chains seem to be the worst by far. I have Lassa 750x16s fitted to
my SIII, a close copy of the Avon Rangers that is used to be fitted with
and I find them good for the sort of use that I put the Landie to .. about
80miles/day on the road, some 40 per week on green lanes around Hampshire.
I can't remember the price, but they were around 35 quid ish.

If you live near Micheldever or within a reasonable sdistance, try
Micheldever tyres for a quote, they provided the Goodyears on my other car
and fitted them for 1/2 the price quoted by Kwik Fit. Otherwise try your
local garage, I use a local independent who service the Land Rover once a
year and they charge less for LR tyres than anyone in the district.

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Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 09:56:25 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: Sorry! its tyres again. (fwd)

>God forbid ! Stick to a specialist, any specialist. (Oh what a pleasure it is
>to tow Land Rovers and Range Rovers away from these fast fit outfits when
>they can't even fix them at any speed !)
I agree,oh I agree....unless you want a laugh.You want to see a trainee
fitter trying to fit 205 16 to SWB rims:-)

>Incidently many jobs would be cheaper if the cowboys hadn't 'creamed' off
>the highest profit margin items. They now want to get involved in brakes so
>please take all your difficult brake bleeding jobs to them.
You mean you people dont change the engine oil by sucking it out of the
dipstick tube?Tch tch tch:-)

I've just had two new 205R16 Trackers fitted (the old two developed cracks
in the inside sidewalls...dont ask,its still painful).Ian,do you know the
Tracker "tale"?The new tyres,although an identical tread pattern;with which,
incidentally I am well satisfied;appear to be be a different manufacturer.
The originals were International Tracker,these are Kingpin,or some such.
Is the tread pattern a free for all?
I previously paid 35 quid fitted for these,and I notice that the tyres are
still available from Craddock,Paddock et al,at about the same price that
they were two years ago.However,when I approached my previous supplier(NOT
one of the "Fast Fit Cowboys")he wanted 42 quid.Now 35 I didnt mind too much,
but this was ridiculous,I thought.I finally got them for 39 quid each,including
VAT and entertainment,but next time........
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Re: Sorry! its tyres again. (fwd)
Date: Tue, 14 May 96 10:28:57 BST

> God forbid ! Stick to a specialist, any specialist. (Oh what a pleasure it is
> to tow Land Rovers and Range Rovers away from these fast fit outfits when
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
> Land Rovers and Range Rovers. Wouldn't be too profitable for them would
> it.

Fair comment I guess.

Its currently with a village garage in Crawley Down (about 2/3 miles east of 
Crawley). The MoT place I sent it to was definitely dubious. They said they'd
sort my exhaust, but didn't ("We don't do exhausts anymore, sir!") and blanket
failed all my lights - strange 'cos they all work for me. I think they
couldn't work them out (ex-mil. vehicle you see). They were
"Crawley MOT Centre". Anyway, this place in Crawley Down had a look at
the exhaust (its blowing where it connects to the manifold), found that the
previous owner (the Gurkhas) did a "good engineering job" to quote their words,
so they've kept it for the day, and they're doing an MoT too.
The "good engineering job" fits with what I found when I tried to fix it
myself.
I'll ask them about tyres if I'm happy with the result, when I pick
it up.

 
> Incidently many jobs would be cheaper if the cowboys hadn't 'creamed' off
> the highest profit margin items. They now want to get involved in brakes so
> please take all your difficult brake bleeding jobs to them.

:-)

Richard

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From: Trefor Delve <delve1t@nectech.co.uk>
Subject: Speedo/Gearbox problem
Date: Tue, 14 May 96 10:39:00 GMT

All,

A question regarding the V6/gearbox/speedo relationship.  The long and   
the short of it is that the speedo reads approximately twice the road   
speed.

Currently the SIII has a SII/IIa gearbox.  For some reason the PO had   
never bothered with the Speedo.  The SII cable was left running from the   
gearbox while the SIII cable was left in the speedo head.  Clearly the   
SII cable will not reach the SIII head (and the connection is different   
anyway).  As the ends of both of the cables were rusted, I cut the cables   
and fixed them together.  Low and behold the speedo worked.  After   
telling my girlfriend to watch out when she was driving it as the speedo   
reading would be lower than the road speed, I was disturbed to find that   
on a trip to the shops we were doing an indicated 60 mph.  Mind you, at   
this rate the SIII should be good for 120 mph !

Three questions:

 1) Is the speedo drive on the SIII 'box the same as that on the SII ?

 2) Is it possible to change the speedo drive ratio to reduce
     indicated speed ?

 3)  The SIII is running on 750x16's and I seem to recall someone
     quoting the difference in road/indicated speed as 17% or so.
     Am I right ?

Regards,

Trefor.
tdelve@nectech.co.uk

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Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 12:18:00 +0100 (BST)
From: "T.Stevenson" <gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Speedo/Gearbox problem

>Three questions:
> 1) Is the speedo drive on the SIII 'box the same as that on the SII ?
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
>     quoting the difference in road/indicated speed as 17% or so.
>     Am I right ?
As far as I know, the SII & III speedo drives are the same, and cannot be
altered. The only way to change the reading is to have the speedo recalibrated. 
Putting 750's on a SWB would make the speedo under-read by a percentage;
I've heard figures quoted between 12 & 17%. Fitting a speedo from a LWB,
which has a different calibration from a SWB one although is apparently
mechanically identical, would restore the correct reading. This may well be
the cheapest option.
Cheers

 Tom
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Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 12:36:58 +0100
From: ukctoll@ukpmr.cs.philips.nl (Nigel Toll)
Subject: re-building an overdrive

Hello there,

I'd appreciate a bit of help on re-assembling the synchro-hub for my overdrive. 
What way around do the three sliding blocks go?

One face has chamfered edges and the other doesn't but is curved (convex)
over the entire face.

Do I re-assemble with:
	Chamfered face outwards
	&
	Curved face inwards with curvature running around periphery
	of hub or across it?

Thanks in advance.
Nigel Toll
 

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From: "Paul Hazell" <p.hazell@WORC.AC.UK>
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 15:31:34 +0100
Subject:       Migrating oil

Hi all,

(I posted this message a few days ago but my mail has been playing up so I don't
 
know if the list ever received it - sorry if it did!)

I have a feeling someone asked this very question a few weeks ago but can't 
recall, sorry for being a bore but....

I seem to be losing oil from the gearbox while the transfer box is gaining - not 
a huge amount, but enough to require checking fairly regularly. I seem to recall 
some talk about blocked breathers? If this is the case, where are they & how can 
they be un-blocked? Or could 
it be the symptom of something more serious? 

Yours in anticipation....

Paul Hazell (SIII Lt/wt 1972)

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From: Trefor Delve <delve1t@nectech.co.uk>
Subject: Migrating oil - Me Too
Date: Tue, 14 May 96 14:53:00 GMT

If anyone knows the answer to Paul's question I too would be very   
interested as my SII 'box is suffering from the same problem.

Trefor
tdelve@nectech.co.uk  

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Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 10:50:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: your mail

On Mon, 13 May 1996 C.J.Short@ste0418.wins.icl.co.uk wrote:

> subscribe lro-digest

	BTW, this is the stuff to use (more or less) for the main LRO mailing
	list.  For just the UK list you would say subscribe uk-lro.  Don't
	know if there is a digest for the uk list...

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From: Graeme Booth <Graeme.Booth@src.bae.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 15:33:47 +0100
Subject: Murphy of Murphy's Law has got a lot to answer for!

Having had a number of problems lately with my Lightweight, I decided
to plum for the option of getting another form of transport and taking
the Landy off the road to strip it down for a rebuild.

Fair enough I hear you say...

So off I go, get a new car sorted out (well and truly skint as they
say!) and get myself ready for the end of the month when the Tax Disc
runs out and the Landy will get garaged.

Hows the Landy running now? Like brand new!!!!!! AAAAAAAARRRRGGGGH!

Just had to get that off my chest. So....now that I've got a new-ish
car (and as much as I'm ashamed to admit it, a non-LR!) I can't afford
to run the Landy and so have to take it off the road anyway.

B*gger!!
Isn't life a bitch? 

Still, I guess I'll have plenty of time to do the rebuild now.......

:-(

Graeme
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Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 21:36:25 +0200
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: Positive earth

This is about a week old, so forgive me if it has been answered:
>Dear All,
>	I'am looking to convert my 69 IIa 88in to negative earth,
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)]
>in there workshop but going through all the issues I cannot find it,
>	Does anybody know which issues it was in? 

I always thought that the original positive earth was supposed to be 
slightly better as far as corrosion went, you just had difficulty with 
newfangled stuff like radios and CB's and so on. Anyway, articles appeared in
LRW  March 96 page 46 (very short)
LRW  April 94 page 32 (rather comprehensive)
Nothing in LRO according to my immaculately kept files. 

Peter Hirsch
SI 107in S/W
Vienna, Austria (officially 1,000 years old this November 1)

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Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 17:44:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: Positive earth

On Tue, 14 May 1996 lopezba@atnet.at wrote:

> I always thought that the original positive earth was supposed to be 
> slightly better as far as corrosion went, you just had difficulty with 
> newfangled stuff like radios and CB's and so on. 

	According to the Phd types in the mineral and metals labs over
	here, + earth should be better vis-a-vis corrosion.  CB's?
	Just isolate the box, drop a pair f capacitors into the wire to 
	the antenna and bolt the antenna to the body.

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