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1 "Dave White" [dave@bang.16Re: Modular wheels
2 "Niel J. P. Fagan" [NF@o17 Re: The UK/IERE Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
3 "Julian Watt" [julian@mi13Re: Modular wheels
4 "Davidge, Anthony" [anto36Insurance and other bits
5 "Andy Phillips" [phillip35Tyres question . . .
6 "Andy Phillips" [phillip25Modular wheels ...
7 "Baker, Stuart J" [baker33RE:more advice
8 Dave Ladell [ladell@proa19Re: Modular wheels
9 "John McMaster" [john@ch15RE: A common tyre question (Sorry)
10 M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (M36Re: Tyres question . . .
11 chris.mokes@symbian.com 12Re[2]: Tyres question . . . Another bronco tyre owner
12 Geoff Wilkin [geoff.wilk5Re: More advise
13 "Joost Kramer" [jkramer@13Re: Re: The UK/IERE Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
14 "Mel Mauger & Matthew Re17Re: The UK/IERE Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
15 "Mel Mauger & Matthew Re28Re: Understanding partner, now diesel fuel filters
16 "Dave White" [dave@bang.17Re: Tyres question . . .
17 "Dave White" [dave@bang.12Re: A common tyre question (Sorry)
18 The Bickertons [Bickerto12Salisbury axle
19 "Frank Elson" [frankelso17Re: D90 anti-roll bars
20 "John McMaster" [john@ch9RE: Salisbury axle
21 andy Smith [andy@bobstar28Re: V8 Camshaft Tips
22 "Peter BRADLEY" [pbrad@d5Re: V8 Camshaft Tips
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From: "Dave White" <dave@bang.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 08:30:08 -0000
Subject: Re: Modular wheels

>into two to make tyre changing easier, or am I getting them mixed upwith
>something else?

Modular wheels are the ones which are similar to white 8 spokes but have
round holes instead of the spoke shapes. I don't think they come to bits
though.

Dave White
'82 V8 Stage 1 SW (Light Green)
'69 2.6 LWB 2A (in bits)

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From: "Niel J. P. Fagan" <NF@orc.soton.ac.uk>
Date:          Fri, 8 Jan 1999 08:49:04 GMT
Subject:       Re: The UK/IERE Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

Joost

750 xzl's in stock last time I visited Brooklyn eng. Chandlers Ford 
Hants.

Niel.

750 xcls 1/3rd worn after 15K miles :-)Rgds Niel

Views expressed are personal and not those of the 
University, unless otherwise & expressly stated.

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From: "Julian Watt" <julian@mindnet.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 09:04:16 -0000
Subject: Re: Modular wheels

The name and appearance is a little misleading,  although 'Modular Wheels'
aren't split rims they do have what look like set screws round them to make
them look like split rims.  They have quite a bit more ofset than my
Discovery Steel wheels as well.

Julian Watt
Blue 90 200Tdi

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From: "Davidge, Anthony" <antony_davidge@merck.com>
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 04:46:25 -0500
Subject: Insurance and other bits

Phoned the broker for my insurance company to let them know about the recent
Bull-bar, Modular wheels and 265 tyres, and the 300tdi conversion. After
several calls to identify exactly what I was doing/had done and why I was
changing the engine they decided to charge an extra premium of 25UKP  - and
the reason why - because of the bull-bar. They said that they didn't have a
problem with the wheels/tyres or engine conversion.

Me, I'm happy because the LR is still cheaper to insure than the recently
departed, 200,000+ mile Peugeot 205. Still going to give NFU a call when it
gets nearer the time to renew the insurance though.

The S2 has past her mot, all for the cost of the road fund license, that I
don't pay. When I eventually get round to learning to weld, it I'll be much
cheaper. Did like the fact that the examiner didn't find anything in
addition to what I had noted to them to check. :+) - Many thanks to the list
for the steep learning curve!

Frank - I'll be looking to book accommodation this weekend for the
Friday/Saturday - so all systems are go at this end, to go out and play on
the 23rd. I'm booking accommodation for the Saturday so that we'll be
refreshed for the journey back in the S2. 

Tyres - someone was asking about tyres, I've put 6k+ on the Grabber AP's I
bought in December, and I'm very happy with them. They don't appear to be
wearing that quickly on tarmac use, only about 10 miles has been off road
though.  :+( 

Tony
1970 88'' 2.25 S2a
1990 90'' 2.5td - thats still smokey  

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From: "Andy Phillips" <phillips@foresight-axias.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 09:54:14 -0000
Subject: Tyres question . . .
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Tim,

Re question below I got my tyres from Bronco Tyres (Advertised in LROi).
They are a special kind of remould tyres using a cool tread system (wow!)
for higher mileage and are commonly used on aircraft (80% of them according
to the ad) so quite safe. The advantage to me is that they perform fine on
road and off and have a wide range of tread patterns to suit different
tasks - all at about 50 pounds a tyre on your doorstep. Sounds a bit like an
advert I know but they have done me proud so far on and off road (worked
well up until the point I attempted a lane passable only by tractors and
ended up high and dry on the centre ridge in the lane - doh!) If you're
interested look back through the digest where we went through all the usual
questions of safety and someone said they'd been round the factory.

Cheers,

Andy.

> Also, Anyone got any other good ideas for cheap(ish) tyres??

> Thanks

> Tim
> 90 TD

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From: "Andy Phillips" <phillips@foresight-axias.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 09:54:21 -0000
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Rich,

I have modular wheels and they have a ring of miniature bolts around the
inside section of the wheel but there is no way in the world I am going to
dismantle a wheel to see how it works! Sorry but I quite freely admit my
lack of mechanical prowess (:-0

Andy.

Am I right in thinking that 'modular' wheels can be unbolted and split
into two to make tyre changing easier, or am I getting them mixed upwith
something else?

Rich.

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From: "Baker, Stuart J" <bakersj@bp.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 09:59:32 -0000 
Subject: RE:more advice

Thanks to those who replied re my speedo problem.  I'm pretty sure it's
either worn cable end/sprocket.  I will try John B's suggestion of a smear
of chemical metal first, as this seems slightly! easier than tackling the
sprocket.

With regards to the fuel gauge, I think I should have given a bit more info.
With the original gauge and sender unit (I don't know if it ever worked) I
got the following.
With ignition off gauge reads full.  With ignition on gauge drops from full
by about 2mm.  If you short wire from sender unit gauge drops down from full
by about 4mm.
I then obtained another second hand sender unit (I don't know for sure if
this works but it looks in good condition).  When connected up this gave
exactly the same symptoms.  Ahhh me thinks must be the gauge.  So I sourced
another second hand gauge (again can't be sure if this works but looks shiny
and new).  Now I get:
With ignition off gauge reads empty.  With ignition on gauge reads full.  If
you connect, disconnect or short out the wire from the sender unit the gauge
does not move from full at all.
I will try to get hold of a multimeter to check the sender meanwhile any
other suggestions would be appreciated.
P.S. I am away working in Sunny Scotland next week so will not be able to
read replies till I get back.

Cheers

Stuart  Baker (So so so close to getting his first Landy on the road)

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From: Dave Ladell <ladell@proasisn.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 10:10:44 +0000
Subject: Re: Modular wheels

Julian Watt wrote;
>The name and appearance is a little misleading,  although 'Modular Wheels'
>aren't split rims they do have what look like set screws round them to make
>them look like split rims.  

The screws are purely for show, looking at mine.  The rim is welded to the
centre.

Cheers,

Dave Ladell  
'75 Lightweight 2.5TD 
nr. Buxton, Derbyshire, UK

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From: "John McMaster" <john@chiaroscuro.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 10:20:36 -0000
Subject: RE: A common tyre question (Sorry)

Do not even think about it!! I have 33 Grabber Mud Terrains and am very
happy with them, BUT, I also have salisbury rear, 24 spline toughened front
shafts, LT95 gearbox, OME raised suspension etc - these tyres are very big
and heavy! If you plan to use your vehicle heavily you will need a strong
motor to turn them and strengthened drivetrain to cope with the forces put
out. I still have to replace my front wheel bearings much more often than
usual :-( They may be considered to look macho though...........

john

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 11:47:04 +0000
Subject: Re: Tyres question . . .

>Re question below I got my tyres from Bronco Tyres (Advertised in LROi).

I'm glad someone else has got Broncos.And I'm even more glad that they
are OK.I've just fitted a pair on the front wheels of my 11A.They are
the AT tread,in 205R16.So far I'm very pleased with them.They arent
noisy,rolling resistance is low,and the steering is very light indeed.
And at £32 a pop,including VAT and carriage,I'm not complaining price
wise either!Word of caution,though.Looking at the ad in the current LRO,
it seems that the firm has either changed its name (to Tyre & Wheel Co)
or been taken over,and the prices given include VAT *but not carriage*.
Has any other series driver had a bad attack of heavy steering caused
by the front tyres? I had a pair of Pirelli Akros on the front,only
just legal,granted,but the steering was agonisingly heavy.The problem
seemed to be the sheer amount of rubber in contact with the road.Made
parking a trial of strength,with the Rover often as not winning!
Series vehicles werent made for radial tyres,really.But I must admit,
the Broncos have changed all that such that I can now twiddle happily
from lock to lock using one finger hooked round the steering wheel
spoke.
WRT cheap tyres,avoid Kingpin and International remoulds like the plague.
I ran on them for several years,knowing no better,and the things *rot*.
The sidewalls crack,and the tread pattern breaks up.In fact,the Akros
on the front (bought part worn) were the result of an MoT failure due
to uneven tyre wear,although there was bags of tread left.I had by
that time swapped the back ones for M+S treads,rather than the Tracker
tread,and with the advent of the Akros found that rolling resistance
was way,way down,and presumably with beneficial effects on fuel consumption.
YMMV,of course,but thems my observations.....
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: chris.mokes@symbian.com
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 11:56:20 GMT
Subject: Re[2]: Tyres question . . . Another bronco tyre owner

     I've got Bronco 235/85 ATs on my 90 and have had no problem with them. 
     They are much quieter than the 6.00 avon traction mileage X plies it 
     came with!  I'm still waiting for some snow down south so I can try 
     them out!
     
     Chris

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From: Geoff Wilkin <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 12:38:54 -0000
Subject: Re: More advise

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From: "Joost Kramer" <jkramer@best.ms.philips.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 15:22:53 +0100
Subject: Re:       Re: The UK/IERE Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

Niel,

Thanks for your info. Do you (or friends) have experience with the xzl's?
Because it is replacement for yours, I think they will last as long.
Beter then the pneumant's I use now (< 5000 miles!)

Joost

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From: "Mel Mauger & Matthew Reeve" <blatchwood@btinternet.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 23:49:32 -0000
Subject: Re: The UK/IERE Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

> there should be no problems at all after the gearbox/x-fer box/
>handbrake have been removed from the vehicle- and jogging down the motorway
>is illegal with or without all that stuff strapped to your back !!!!!!!!!

Damn, I knew I was going wrong somewhere, that also explains why I haven't had 
to refill the fuel
tank in 2500 miles :-))

Matthew
UK, nr Heathrow
1979 2-dr Range Rover 300Tdi

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From: "Mel Mauger & Matthew Reeve" <blatchwood@btinternet.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 23:48:30 -0000
Subject: Re: Understanding partner, now diesel fuel filters

>it where the manual said it should be).  Their reasoning was that in
>general the quality of diesel here is good and the filter alone was
>more than adequate if changed at the recommended intervals.  Anyone
>with bad experiences with dirty fuel?

>Iain

Yes I have, it stopped the rangie about 20 miles later, ended up getting 
relayed back by the AA.
Apparently they'd had quite a few in that area that day, but not enough 
evidence to pursue the
garage :-(
It wasn't a big name garage, but on a rat run somewhere near Newbury and as 
such is used by many
commuters.
I think it's worth putting a sedimenter in, even if you just happen to be 
unlucky and get the dregs
in the bottom of the fuel bunker one time.

Matthew
UK, nr Heathrow
1979 2-dr Range Rover 300Tdi

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From: "Dave White" <dave@bang.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 19:45:19 -0000
Subject: Re: Tyres question . . .

>WRT cheap tyres,avoid Kingpin and International remoulds like the plague.
>I ran on them for several years,knowing no better,and the things *rot*.
>The sidewalls crack,and the tread pattern breaks up.In fact,the Akros
>on the front (bought part worn) were the result of an MoT failure due
>to uneven tyre wear,although there was bags of tread left.

I am there right now with a set of Kingpin's looking to buy probably part
worns cos they are even cheaper.... unless anyone is dumping some barely
legal LWB suitable tyres....!

Dave

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From: "Dave White" <dave@bang.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 19:59:20 -0000
Subject: Re: A common tyre question (Sorry)

>Some product info can be found at http://www.tyres-online.co.uk/4wdtyre.htm
>I am searching for Michelin 7.50 R 16 C 4x4 O/R XZL TL 108N.

I know someone with some s/h ones which I am looking at at the weekend....

Dave

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From: The Bickertons <Bickerton@compuserve.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 15:03:09 -0500
Subject: Salisbury axle

Does anyone have a Salisbury axle behind a IIA/III gearbox on a leafsprung
88" LR? How long did you need the prop? I've been offered one that may be
suitable, but I need to know the length I'll need....

TIA,
John Bickerton

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 23:38:16 -0000
Subject: Re: D90 anti-roll bars

Rob, we agreed twice last year  - I have both times noted in my diary.
Still, this is this year's agree over and done with.
BTW are you still on for a trip to Scotland this year - I promise to not
have a heart attack this time :-)>
Best Cheers

Frank
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From: "John McMaster" <john@chiaroscuro.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 22:14:51 -0000
Subject: RE: Salisbury axle

about 1.5" - 2" shorter than an 88 standard as I remember.....

john

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From: andy Smith <andy@bobstar.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 23:53:10 +0000
Subject: Re: V8 Camshaft Tips

In message <bulk.18150.19990107090613@Land-Rover.Team.Net>, Tim Burt
<tim@muddyweb.co.uk> writes
>I am due to sort out a head gasket problem on my Dad's Range Rover (3.5 Efi)
>Due to the age of the engine, I am almost certainly going to change the
>camshaft whilst I'm in there.

Tim, 
    I bought the following from RPI all at a reasonable price.
    3.9 camshaft £39.00 !
    set of 16 cam followers £45.00
    Timing chain set (inc both gear wheels) £28.00
 All prices where plus the dreaded vat and the postage charge was around
the £7 area, they arrived within 48 hours. 
 http://www.rpi.co.uk

-- 
andy Smith
1965 ser2a V8 swb ccvt/road 
1971 ser2a 2.25P swb road
Tamworth Staffs
Founder of the chatroom #uk_rover 
webpage at http://www.bobstar.demon.co.uk/index.html

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From: "Peter BRADLEY" <pbrad@dial.pipex.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 23:29:42 -0000
Subject: Re: V8 Camshaft Tips

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 00:27:36 -0000
Subject: Re: Tyres question . . .
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Dave,
I had some Kelly Safaris (4) down at the barn, they're yours if they are =
still there (too long a story) I'll check this weekend.
Best Cheers

Frank
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Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 00:48:23 -0000
Subject: Test - please ignore and delete

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