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1 Geoff Wilkin [geoff.wilk38Re: Series 3 with oomph - how????
2 Geoff Wilkin [geoff.wilk5Re: Off for a while
3 "David Vella" [landy@dig23goes off at 110kmph
4 "Peter Dowson" [Peter.Do8Re: goes off at 110kmph
5 "John McMaster" [john@ch14LPG costs
6 "Baker, Stuart J" [baker14Re: Geoff Wilkin Censored ?
7 "Steve Mace" [steve@solw40Turner Heads (was Series 3 with oomph)
8 "Peter Dowson" [Peter.Do18Re: Turner Heads (was Series 3 with oomph)
9 kevin [sctkr@staffs.ac.u44Re: LPG costs
10 "Peter Estibeiro" [peter52Re: Series 3 with oomph - how????
11 Geoff Wilkin [geoff.wilk44Re: goes off at 110kmph
12 Geoff Wilkin [geoff.wilk24Re: LPG costs
13 Geoff Wilkin [geoff.wilk9Re: Geoff Wilkin Censored ?
14 Geoff Wilkin [geoff.wilk25Re: Turner Heads (was Series 3 with oomph)
15 "Vale, Gary, VALEGA" [ga10RE: Geoff Wilkin Censored ?
16 Duncan Phillips [dunk@iv49Re: Turner Heads (was Series 3 with oomph)
17 "Saunders.Richard" [Rich24Lights
18 Ray West [raywest@mcmail15Latimer-Davis
19 "Peter Dowson" [Peter.Do18Re: Lights
20 "Peter Estibeiro" [peter29Re: Lights
21 MRogers315@aol.com 37Re: Re-Question on Vehicle building.
22 MRogers315@aol.com 27Re: Rangie transmission slack
23 MRogers315@aol.com 11Re: Re-Question on Vehicle building.
24 d.p.round@bangor.ac.uk 19Re: Re-Question on Vehicle building.
25 Graeme Hendry [graeme@ag29Re: Re-Question on Vehicle building.
26 Graeme Hendry [graeme@ag5[not specified]
27 "Peter Estibeiro" [peter25Re: Tach
28 "Rob Smith" [rob@archenl12RE: LPG costs
29 "Rob Smith" [rob@archenl14RE: LPG costs
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33 "Frank Elson" [frankelso25Re: was LPG now red diesel.
34 Florence Oeuvray [floren29Re: Series 3 with oomph - how????
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From: Geoff Wilkin <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:20:57 -0000
Subject: Re: Series 3 with oomph - how????

Get a tuned head fromTurner Engineering, and also get their unleaded one.
Then you can run unleaded, and recoup some of the money with cheaper fuel.

Mind you with 4star going at the end of the year, it may not be much.

A V8 is unleaded already.

Also Why put up with 15mpg, for only 60 BHP,  when you can have 15mpg and
150BHP with a V8.

Also a V8 can be LPG Gassed, with lower costs still..

Think long and hard,  its worth getting it right first time.

I went diesel...maybee should have gone V8 and LPG.

Certainly making me think about it for my 2.8V6 lightweight... Hmmm what
shall I do???

Best Regards
Geoff Wilkin

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From: Geoff Wilkin <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:23:55 -0000
Subject: Re: Off for a while

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From: "David Vella" <landy@digigate.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:48:29 +0100
Subject: goes off at 110kmph

Hi

Yesterday while driving my 1988 Turbo Diesel 90 - at a certain point I
reached 110km/h and all of a suddent the engine went off ! I parked on the
side, tried to restart it but wouldnt - however it did restart after abou 20
seconds !

It did not overheat for sure as the gauge was marked ok ! Note this is the
third time tha happened to me and also note that recently I had a stuck
valve twice !

regards,
:)
     David Vella
  GFI Fax & Voice
 [www.gfifax.com]
-=1988 White 90=-

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From: "Peter Dowson" <Peter.Dowson@softwareag.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:57:16 -0000
Subject: Re: goes off at 110kmph

Sounds as though you've got a long wheel base engine so you got an extra
20kph out of the engine ;-)

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From: "John McMaster" <john@chiaroscuro.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:56:01 -0000
Subject: LPG costs

With all this talk of conversion costs. has anyone got real data for fuel
costs with an LPG V8? I looked into it a little at the end of last year with
conflicting reports on economy. If you have, say, a 200HP V8 which can do
18mpg on petrol what power and economy could you expect on LPG? I was told
that 50% extra mpg (ie 27) was possible but I was disinclined to believe at
the time ;-)

john

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From: "Baker, Stuart J" <bakersj@bp.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:56:20 -0000
Subject: Re: Geoff Wilkin Censored ?

Recently with a lot of Geoff's mail, I am only getting the Subject with
nothing in the text.  It's a bit frustrating as some of them have been
replies to my problems!
Is anyone else experiencing this?
Any ideas Geoff?

Stuart
1961 SII very very nearly restored.

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From: "Steve Mace" <steve@solwise.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:21:16 -0000
Subject: Turner Heads (was Series 3 with oomph)

On 27 Jan 99, at 8:20, Geoff Wilkin wrote:

> Get a tuned head fromTurner Engineering, and also get their unleaded one.
> Then you can run unleaded, and recoup some of the money with cheaper fuel.

With the imminent phasing out of 4* (though I currently 
use 4 * in only one tank in 3 anyway) I have been thinking 
of changing the head sometime next year. I've also been 
thinking that if I'm going to change the head anyway why 
not kill two birds with one stone and get one with a bit 
more poke. 
Has anyone any direct experience of the range of Turner 
Performance heads? 
How much are they? 
How much extra oomph do you get? 
Are they worth the money? 
Is there anyone who does cheaper alternatives? 
Do you have to do anything to your carb to cope with the 
new head? 

Generally all information appreciated....

Thanks..

Steve

1972 SIII LtWt
1993 D90
In the UK
Name: Dr Steve Mace
E-mail: steve@solwise.co.uk
www: http://www.solwise.co.uk
Tel: +44 1482 621888
Fax: +44 1482 621877

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From: "Peter Dowson" <Peter.Dowson@softwareag.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:13:39 -0000
Subject: Re: Turner Heads (was Series 3 with oomph)

You could always ask Turner :-

Turner Engineering
West Park Road
Lingfield
Surrey
RH7 6HT

Tel: 01342 834713
Fax: 01342 834042

Peter Dowson

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From: kevin <sctkr@staffs.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:27:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: LPG costs

>With all this talk of conversion costs. has anyone got real data for fuel
>costs with an LPG V8? I looked into it a little at the end of last year with
>conflicting reports on economy. If you have, say, a 200HP V8 which can do
>18mpg on petrol what power and economy could you expect on LPG? I was 
told that 50% extra mpg (ie 27) was possible but I was disinclined to believe at
>the time ;-)

We have ran a V8 110 CSW 4speed 1983 for about a year on LPG.
MPG is about 13 which in ££ terms is currently equivalent to about 23-25 mpg.
Power difference between LPG and petrol is not noticeble but it runs a lot 
smoother on LPG. It also starts easier on LPG, some people say you should 
start on petrol then switch, because of a battery which doesn't like the cold 
(I 
know time for a change) I now start on LPG, no problems.
As it doen't really offroad, tanks (2) are under both sides of the vehicle, 
they 
are of the smallish variety so no major work was involved, however, I may at 
some time consider larger capacity especially if we intend to travel further. 
At 
the moment capacity is only 80 l, just over 200 miles, but this lasts 2-3 weeks 
because of usage, Availability is not too bad and is getting better.
best wishes.
Kevin

Not the greatest economy  but the wife uses it mostly as a people carrier on 
lots of small journey's and haven't really tried to "supertune" it, as long as 
it 
starts! and sounds like a V8 :-).

Dr Kevin Reiling
Division of Biology
Staffordshire University
ST4 2DE

01782 294746

k.reiling@staffs.ac.uk
internally, sctkr

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From: "Peter Estibeiro" <petere@srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:06:09 +0000
Subject: Re: Series 3 with oomph - how????

Hi
Taking 90 - 100 thou off a low compression head or about 70 thou off 
a high compression head will give you plenty of oomph.  You will have 
to file the top off the water pump to allow the skimmed head to sit 
flat on the block.  If you skim much more than suggested above you 
will run out of tappet adjustment and will need shorter push rods to 
prevent the rockers fouling the rocker cover.  I believe push-rods 
from a 2.5 can be used but I've never tried it myself.  Whilst the 
head's off you can port it a bit which makes a reasonable difference. 
 Just use a rotary stone to smooth the ports and remove any ridges or 
edges which could cause turbulance.  It costs about ukp 50 for the 
skim and a similar amount to have hard exhaust seats fitted at the 
same time.  Porting can be done yourself if you want it.  Its about 
half the price of a Turner head worked to similar spec.  The saving 
is that you do the time-consuming bit yourself.  My engine has also 
been completely balanced (crank, pistons, con-rods (including 
matching their centres of gravity), flywheel and clutch cover).  This 
cost ukp 80 +VAT at a local shop that builds racing engines and 
allows the engine to rev like a turbine and sound beautiful (but not 
like a reving V8 (sigh...)  Carb is a 1.75 inch SU on a side-draught 
manifold (Automotive Components).  I'm currently thinking about 
making my own tubular exhaust manifold as the original cast one is 
crumbling.  I'm also dissatisfied with the ignition and will probably 
fit electronic before long (I'm building a hybrid LR/Cavalier 
distributer to fit Bosch ignition but I cant make it work so far and 
its frustrating me!  May have to resort to luminition or similar (any 
comments?).
Turner and Automotive heads are excellent but you can't beat the 
satisfaction of turning heads with a home made engine.  It will do 
about 18-20+ mpg and will propel a safari bodied 109 to over 70mph 
under favourable circumstances.  constant 60+ is easy.
Hope this helps.  If I were you I'd wait until after the budget 
before deciding what to do.  A V8 might be too expensive to own in a 
road car.  So might a 2.25 depending on the cut off.  I've heard 2L 
or 2.5L.  If its 2.5L then you can get a lot out out of a tuned 2.25. 
Cheers
Peter.

Peter Estibeiro
Membrane Biology Group
Department of Biomedical Science
University of Edinburgh
Edinburgh EH8 9XD
tel: 44 131 6503731
fax: 44 131 6503711
email peter.estibeiro@ed.ac.uk

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From: Geoff Wilkin <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:30:12 -0000
Subject: Re: goes off at 110kmph

I had a simmilar thing with my Peu**ot 305, and it got worse as time went
by.
In the end it turned out to be the fuel cutoff solenoid dropping out.
I changed the solenoid (with one from my LR engine) and all went well again.

I had put a tell tale light on the solenoid, because I thought it was
electrical, as the symptom was just like turning the ignition off.
ie, an instant shutdown, with no coughing or spluttering etc.

After anything from a few seconds to a few minutes (later on) it would start
and drive normally. Towards the end the frequency of stopping increased.

Nasty in the fast lane of a motorway, or pulling out into traffic...

It could also be fuel starvation / vacuuming in the fuel line.
Have you changed the fuel filter lately?....

ie it uses more fuel that it can deliver at high revs, then causes a partial
vacuum in the line (partly blocked pipes?)
then when the vacuum has subsided it all works normally again.
But I would have thought you would get a reduction in power first not like
the instant stopping I had.

Hope this helps..

Best Regards
Geoff Wilkin

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From: Geoff Wilkin <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:32:25 -0000
Subject: Re: LPG costs

I dunno exactly... but think of same MPG but slightly lower costs... better
than a 2.25, as you get more horses with a V8 for the same (ish) fuel costs.
I think 50% more economy is a bit exagerated, mpg wise, maybee if you take
the whole cost into account, but i doubt it.

Best Regards
Geoff Wilkin

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From: Geoff Wilkin <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:33:08 -0000
Subject: Re: Geoff Wilkin Censored ?

Well I was always a bit outlandish and contencious!!!!...

Geoff...

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From: Geoff Wilkin <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:35:16 -0000
Subject: Re: Turner Heads (was Series 3 with oomph)

Fairly expensive, more than most other people's heads... BUT they have an
excellent reputation for quality etc etc.

I had one on my 109 Safari, it went well although it wasnt a tuned one, just
unleaded.

Best Regards
Geoff Wilkin

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From: "Vale, Gary, VALEGA" <gary.vale@bt.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:09:11 -0000
Subject: RE: Geoff Wilkin Censored ?

Maybe a firewall in the corner of the room ?????
Regards 
GARY VALE
 gary.vale@bt.com <mailto:gary.vale@bt.com> 

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From: Duncan Phillips <dunk@ivanhoe.soc.staffs.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:39:04 +0000
Subject: Re: Turner Heads (was Series 3 with oomph)

At 09:21 27/01/99 -0000, you wrote:
>Has anyone any direct experience of the range of Turner 
>Performance heads? 

I installed the mid-range head (converted to unleaded, and with the
gas-flowed ports) about 6 months ago. 

>How much extra oomph do you get? 

To be honest I haven't noticed a MASSIVE increase in oomph, although I have
been very happy with it. The engine runs very evenly, and has not needed
any attention (so far - though that's probably the kiss of death!!)

>Are they worth the money? 

Hmmmm - if I had my time again, I'd probably choose the standadr unleaded
head, but I'd still stick with Turners.

>Is there anyone who does cheaper alternatives? 

There's Automotive Components (featured in the latest LRM), or you can try
local auto engineering places (though these will rarely do the exchange
system that Turners use, so you could be without your motor for a bit).
When I lloked into it there was very little in the prices of all the options.

>Do you have to do anything to your carb to cope with the 
>new head? 

Turners recommend AGAINST using the Weber 34ICH (they believe it gives
insufficitent throughput), recommending either a Zenith or Solex. I fitted
a new Zenith at the same time, and was very quickly afflicted by 'Zenith
Warping Syndrome', which I've since resolved.

All in all, I've been impressed by the head, but as I say, I'm not sure I
can tell that much difference with the gas flowed ports (but maybe that's
just my driving ;-)).

*******************************
Duncan Phillips
1980 SWB SIII 'Evie'
http://Gawain.soc.staffs.ac.uk/~cmtdmp/play/lrover/
*******************************
Big Bad n' Blue

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From: "Saunders.Richard" <Richard.Saunders@haltoncollege.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:48:41 -0000
Subject: Lights

All this talk of "Blue Lights"  and Frank Es witterings in LRO the othe
month re Up rated 100W and 130W bulbs etc has made me think. There are lots
of LR and none LR persons out there who have uptated their Head Lights from
the Standard Lucas Glow Worms to?  I rember in the old days of the 70s that
Lucas had BRIGHTEYES. 

I am thinking of putting together a list of upgrades for LRs for the S3
Owners Club, so I thought of you lot, as I recon that by now all possible
types of light upgrade will have been tried and tested.

So on or off list if you have upgraded what to and what do you think of
them?

When complete I will also place it on the list.

Thanks in advance

Richard Saunders  Hybryd in less bits than last week.

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From: Ray West <raywest@mcmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 15:02:33 +0000
Subject: Latimer-Davis

Hi Bryan,,

Can you forward your email address again - unfortunately I pressed wrong
button and lost your address and yesterdays LRO digest. (make sure the
fifth generatio spiders go to a good home)

Best wishes,

Ray

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From: "Peter Dowson" <Peter.Dowson@softwareag.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 15:07:31 -0000
Subject: Re: Lights

Richard asks :-
->I am thinking of putting together a list of upgrades for LRs for the S3
->Owners Club, so I thought of you lot, as I recon that by now all possible
->types of light upgrade will have been tried and tested.

Although not directly related to S III, I have a "behind the grille" 80"
which in original form used geriatric glow worms for lights. To maintain the
appearance of originality, I am going to use original head lamp casings and
lenses but fit 5" Dolomite Sprint inners, which after passing through the
grille may allow one to see a light pattern ahead of you.

Peter Dowson

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From: "Peter Estibeiro" <petere@srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 15:35:53 +0000
Subject: Re: Lights

> So on or off list if you have upgraded what to and what do you think of
> them?
I've got Wipac halogen lights on my series III.  I know a lot of 
people on the list don't like them because the reflectors can rust 
but mine have been OK for about 5 or 6 years now and they're very 
cheap.

Even cheaper, on my series I I've got 7inch halogens from a scrap 
dihatsu van.  They're fine and were a fiver.  I believe that most 
jap round 7inch units will fit but european ones (e.g. golf, 
old-shape BMW etc) won't.

Cheers
Peter.

Peter Estibeiro
Membrane Biology Group
Department of Biomedical Science
University of Edinburgh
Edinburgh EH8 9XD
tel: 44 131 6503731
fax: 44 131 6503711
email peter.estibeiro@ed.ac.uk

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From: MRogers315@aol.com
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:37:53 EST
Subject: Re: Re-Question on Vehicle building.

 Graeme Hendry wrote;
>You see plenty of B and C ('64 , '65 ) registered coil sprung 2a's about
>at events though, are they all cheating ?

Probably, it all depends on what engine/transmission they are using as chassis
and axles eat up an awful number of the points (can't remember how they add up
right now) in the scoring system.

>Next question, how do you do it, I'm about to collect a 1980 rangie, and
>my 88" 2a is looking tired, so they are about to blend into one.

This should result in a 1980 reg Land Rover with ser 2a body panels, ie; not
tax exempt.

>How much chassis needs chopping out and from where, what out riggers do
>I need to buy, so many questions !

Chop 12 inches out of the nice straight bit in the middle between the radius
arm mounts. Cut off all the range rover body mounting outriggers and the
curvey bit of chassis rail behind the rear spring mounts. Buy repair
outriggers and rear crossmember to suit your body style, and some sutable
steel sheet to re create the chassis rails from the rear spring mounts to the
rear crossmember.

I am better at answering specific questions than telling you what to do next,
feel free to ask as many as you like. ( I still have the original text from
the LROI article on my hybrid construction on my pc somewhere and can email it
to you if you are interested)

Mike Rogers
Lightweight/Range Rover hybrid

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From: MRogers315@aol.com
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:37:57 EST
Subject: Re: Rangie transmission slack

Matthew Taylor wrote:
 
> Hi all,
 >I have an early 2 door Rangie which seems to have a fair bit of slack 
 >in the fron drive transmission.  When stationary, the front 
 >driveshaft can be rotated through about 45 degrees before drive is 
 >taken up.  The UJs seem good and the input to the front diff and the 
 >transfer box is turning.  When the shaft is rotated to take up drive, 
 >the 'clonk' comes from the ends of the axles, behind the whee >>

This is normal, someone once said that amber on traffic lights is for elderly
(and not so elderly) Range Rover drivers to "take up slack". 

On a more prictical note look to the diff (this can be adjusted and re-shimmed
to take out some slack) and all six sets of splines in the front axle. Both
ends of half shafts and one end of each stub shaft (no adjustment here just a
case of replacement) The constant velocity joints in the front swivels also
have two splines that wear as well as the joint mechanism itself.

Mike Rogers 
Lightweight/Range Rover hybrid (with plenty of transmission slack)

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From: MRogers315@aol.com
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:37:55 EST
Subject: Re: Re-Question on Vehicle building.

Does anyone have the details of the DVL points system for registration year
rules for re-built vehicles? I have been unable to find them.

Mike Rogers 
Lightweight/Range Rover hybrid

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From: d.p.round@bangor.ac.uk
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:11:26 GMT
Subject: Re: Re-Question on Vehicle building.

> Does anyone have the details of the DVL points system for registration year
> rules for re-built vehicles? I have been unable to find them.

http://www.open.gov.uk/dvla/vehicle.htm or one of the pages below it 
has the details of the points system.

David

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From: Graeme Hendry <graeme@agcomp.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:13:41 +0000
Subject: Re: Re-Question on Vehicle building.

In article <bulk.9278.19990127073811@Land-Rover.Team.Net>,
MRogers315@aol.com writes

>This should result in a 1980 reg Land Rover with ser 2a body panels, ie; not
>tax exempt.

I'm not sure if I will register it yet, or just do a pure off-roader.

>( I still have the original text from
>the LROI article on my hybrid construction on my pc somewhere and can email it
>to you if you are interested)

That would be most helpful, thanks.

Regards.....

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From: "Peter Estibeiro" <petere@srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:29:14 +0000
Subject: Re: Tach

> What is the usual culprit for a bouncing tach, or is this just a
> design feature to be ignored?
> Smitty
> 90 RR TD
I guess TD means turbo diesel and therefore probably cable driven 
tach not electric.  In which case maybe the cable is kinked or needs 
lubricating.  If I'm talking rubbish sorry.

Cheers
Peter.

Peter Estibeiro
Membrane Biology Group
Department of Biomedical Science
University of Edinburgh
Edinburgh EH8 9XD
tel: 44 131 6503731
fax: 44 131 6503711
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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 18:36:59 -0000
Subject: RE: LPG costs

If you measure your fuel in terms of pence per mile a 50% saving might be
possible.  In terms of mpg, I very much doubt it, unless you happen to have
installed a 200 TDI, and are running on diesel...

Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110

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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 18:37:02 -0000
Subject: RE: LPG costs

Who's conversion did you use?
Is it a carbed, or an injected engine?
200 miles per fill - that's not a week for me :-(
Pence per mile, about the same as my diesel is doing just now.
Not too bad a picture.

Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110

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From: JPitcher@sperry-sun.com
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:22:56 -0600
Subject: Series 3 with oomph - how????

     I fitted an Automotive Components stage 2 head to my 2.25l Siia and it 
     made quite a big difference. Their literature says it'll increase 
     power by approx. 15 bhp. But your bottom end has to be in good nick to 
     get the most from it. They also do an upgraded camshaft that I'm 
     hoping to get this summer. The full stage two kit includes an SU carb, 
     exhaust manifold, air filter and a 9:1 compression ratio unleaded 
     head. This will definitely give you more oomph. Take note, if you 
     uprate the engine, either make sure you're brakes are up to it or take 
     out life insurance.
     
     Jason
     
     1970 SIIa SWB 

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:57:39 -0000
Subject: Re: Blue tinted bulbs (No LR content)
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went to work a slightly different way yesterday, past a school =
route.......... the short skirts are THERE
But the snow's gone
Best Cheers

Frank
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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:55:48 -0000
Subject: Re: was LPG now red diesel.
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The penalties are quite substantial, and more than cover any saving
that has been made - and include a period of residence in a nice warm
dwelling with lots of real thugs to keep you happy at night<<<

and what's worse - they take your vehicle off you:-(>

Best Cheers

Frank
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From: Florence Oeuvray <florence@span.ch>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 99 00:12:24 +0200
Subject: Re: 	Series 3 with oomph - how????

27/1/99 10:06 am Fromowner-uk-lro-digest@playground.sun.com

>From: Keir Hague <keir@whaleyb.demon.co.uk>
>Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:14:23 +0000
>Subject: Series 3 with oomph - how????
>Dear all,
>I have a 2.25 petrol series 3, and would dearly love it to have just a
>little more go.  I have thought about a V8, but don't like the thought
>of cutting (or paying for that matter).  I have been told that I could
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>ideas on how to increase power?
>Many thanks

I put a 2.5TD in my diesel series 3, apart from more broken half shafts 
it is great improvement 0-60 is now measurable and speed off the line at 
traffic lights can surprise other motorists! As the gearing remains as 
standard even with overdrive top speed is about 70 and comfortable 
cruising about 60 - 65 up hill and down dale! the fit is not too dificult 
the block is basically the same offside engine mount needs mods to clear 
timing case mounted injector pump as does battery holder. Vacuum pump 
realy makes servo work so the thing stops as well!

Kevan Shaw

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 00:31:54 -0000
Subject: Re: Battery/Electrical Power Meters
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Subject: Battery/Electrical Power Meters
Geoff,
for the ignorant (me)
could you elucidate on the various meters please.
I've got an ammeter right?
what do they all do and which is best to find out if the damn thing is =
charging or not?
I only ask because I am ignorant and, when winching, the needle goes =
right down.....
Best Cheers

Frank
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