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From: "Iain Tennant" <i.r.tennant@dundee.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:12:50 GMT
Subject: Re: To vent or not to vent ???

> >star in it?
> If it takes 4 star, you ought to think about getting some new heads.....
> You could always do a diesel conversion, do Perkins make one big enough?

No need.  Probably runs on paraffin so just install oil central 
heating with a *big* tank and do the tax man at the same time! 
Was involved for many years with a local rescue team and the big 
yellow bird (Mainly Wessex in our area at the time) was nicknamed the 
"paraffin budgie". Smells like a primus stove!

Regards,

Iain

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From: "Peter Dowson" <Peter.Dowson@softwareag.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:28:02 -0000
Subject: Re: To vent or not to vent ???

->No need.  Probably runs on paraffin so just install oil central
->heating with a *big* tank and do the tax man at the same time!
->Was involved for many years with a local rescue team and the big
->yellow bird (Mainly Wessex in our area at the time) was nicknamed the
->"paraffin budgie". Smells like a primus stove!

Mind you, with all those paraffin fumes in the cab, you would probably need
to vent it to remove them.

Peter Dowson

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From: "Saunders.Richard" <Richard.Saunders@haltoncollege.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:30:36 -0000 
Subject: Lights and other things...

Frank

You will have to join a queue to Kill me the WIFE the Mother in law next
door neighbour 27 wrinklies (Over 65s) from Arthritis Care ...
 
Now that your secret is out will we see you on the telly in Paddington Green
as a ... waiting for a face lift... and... (I will Stop now   while I still
have my teeth and fingers...)

I also agree with you I also will not fit seals fit new cylinders etc, I
have also just discovered plastic headlight bowel... Great arnt they!

Thanks for the world according to Frank on lights etc...

why do we not fit  or have headlight wipers in this country for LRs etc I to
have to wipe my headlights on bad days twice a day 50 Miles behind lorries
and tractors no the side roads they do collect a lot of  5h1t etc.

One last word, your page has a cult following by such people as myself...
may be its sad for you but there it is. You will just have to put up with
it.

Best wishes 
Richard 100" Land Rover in less bits than last week and part painted...

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From: "David Vella" <landy@digigate.net>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 10:49:35 +0100
Subject: land rover screen saver

hi guys

i was thinking !! what about making a land rover screensaver ??

just send me the pics (one pic per person) of his land rover (could be in
some extreme action or anything else)

and i will make a screen saver when i gather enough pics - it will take time
as i have to program the land rover screen saver myself !!

nice to include
series vehicles
90 and 110
101 forward controls
lightweights
range rover and any other  land rover related !

try to send pics which are of a nice resolution to david@gfifax.com !!

Jeeps and other 4x4s not accepted :))

cya

     David Vella
  GFI Fax & Voice
 [www.gfifax.com]
-=1988 White 90=-

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From: Mats.Rundqvist@saab.se
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 12:59:41 +0100
Subject: Re: Fan question
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On Feb 2,  6:21pm, EXT AVS; \Matthew Reeve & Mel Mauger\ wrote:
> Why not take this as a sign from above to change the fan for an electric
> one? You can get the bits out of a scrappy if you're really stingy, or pay
> £140ish for a Kenlowe one, either way, you get more efficient cooling,
> improved fuel consumption and you can turn it off for water crossings.

Is this a complicated operation? I'm not the worlds greatest technician. The
most complicated repair I have done so far is changing a door lock.

Mats Rundqvist
200 Tdi Defender 110 STW

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From: Geoff Wilkin <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 13:21:00 +0000
Subject: Re: Fan question

Mats.Rundqvist@saab.se wrote:

> > improved fuel consumption and you can turn it off for water crossings.
> Is this a complicated operation? I'm not the worlds greatest technician. The
> most complicated repair I have done so far is changing a door lock.

Its not that hard, it comes with wiring instructions, and is relatively
easy to mount he fan.

usually its harder to get the old fan off!..

Geoff Wilkin

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From: Steve Reddock <Steve@Reddock.net>
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 01:07:25 +1100
Subject: A word of warning, please read...Don't manic mr. mainwearing

>      There is a virus flitting about that piggy backs on email - DON'T 
>      PANIC YOU CAN'T GET A VIRUS BY READING EMAIL. It has cropped up 
>      on many mailing lists.
>      The virus is called "Happy99". It comes in the form of an 
>      attachement to an email, sometimes the sender doesn't even know 
>      he/she has sent it.

This it true. But there are far worse things out there...

Take a look at 

http://www.iss.net/xforce/alerts/advise8.html

Back Orifice and Netbus can be hidden on any .exe file and allow anybody
else on the internet full control of your systems.

how bad is it? 79% if Australian ISPs have been infected...

Its really, really bad. 

NEVER EVER run a .exe file from an untrusted source
NEVER EVER run a .exe file from a trusted source until you have checked it
out first (AV software, etc.)

Regards, Steve 

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From: "Nicholas John Roe" <N.Roe@plymouth.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:14:21 GMT
Subject: Re: To vent or not to vent ???

> >It would beat the traffic Jams in Cornwall later this year when i go to see
> >the eclipse!...
> Taken out a second mortgage,or are you camping in the Rover?

I'll just stay in my house in plymouth :-)

Nick Roe 
Nick Roe :-)

"I can only please one person each day,
Today is not your day,
Tommorow doesn't look good either."

Visit my website!
(http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/powell/11/index.html)
Don't forget to sign the guestbook

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From: Simon Minshall <simon@cinesite.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 14:25:43 +0000
Subject: Re: fuses

Neill Hogarth wrote:
> As a new and proud Land Rover owner I was checking the fuses last
> night and found that a number had blown and been replaced with a roll
> of cigarette paper. Ideally I want to exchange the silver paper for
> real fuses.
> No garage around here has ever seen the type of fuses used in my 1986
> 110. They are glass fuses but with pointed ends. I can get straight
> ended ones but they don't fit in the fuse box. Are LR fuses special
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> ended ones but they don't fit in the fuse box. Are LR fuses special
> or is it just that they don't exist here is Bavaria?

I have heard on some list, possibly this one that it's possible to get
marine type circuit breakers and to use them instead of fuses. They may
cost more but it you installed them you wouldn't need to buy fuses.

Anyone done this?

Simon

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Simon Minshall                              
Imaging Systems Engineer                    9 Carlisle Street
Cinesite Digital Studios                    London    W1V 5RG
http://www.cinesite.co.uk                   tel:0171-973-4000
mailto:simon@cinesite.co.uk                 fax:0171-973-4040

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From: Simon Minshall <simon@cinesite.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 14:37:01 +0000
Subject: Re: Heater duct on D90

Steve Mace wrote:
> I would like to reroute some form of piped heater inlet so
> that the heater takes it's air from the outside world again.
> My first thourgth was the now disused side vent that the
> engine air inlet used to use. 

Couldn't the engine air intake and the heater intake share the snorkel?
you could make a "Y" joint and connect the two intakes to the snorkel.

Simon

-- 
Simon Minshall                              
Imaging Systems Engineer                    9 Carlisle Street
Cinesite Digital Studios                    London    W1V 5RG
http://www.cinesite.co.uk                   tel:0171-973-4000
mailto:simon@cinesite.co.uk                 fax:0171-973-4040

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From: "Iain Tennant" <i.r.tennant@dundee.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:52:43 GMT
Subject: Re: fuses

> I have heard on some list, possibly this one that it's possible to get
> marine type circuit breakers and to use them instead of fuses. They may
> cost more but it you installed them you wouldn't need to buy fuses.
> Anyone done this?

Reader in a recent LRO did exactly this.  No details printed though.

Regards,

Iain

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From: GElam30092@aol.com
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:02:42 EST
Subject: Re: fuses

In a message dated 2/3/99 7:53:37 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
i.r.tennant@dundee.ac.uk writes:

<< Reader in a recent LRO did exactly this.  No details printed though.
 >>

Was that Warren Smith in the Dormobile pictured in the Readers Rovers?  

You can read those comments at www.lroi.com   

Click on "editorial" and then "North American Round-Up".

Warren is a friend and he's on the Dormobile list.  If someone wants to
contact him directly, I'll give you his e-mail address.  I don't feel right
about giving out his e-mail address without specific permission although he
probably wouldn't mind!  Warren is the president of Slippery Rock University
by the way.  (Inside joke: the sports shows here always give the Slippery Rock
scores on the show as if anyone really cares!)

Let me know.....

Gerry Elam
PHX AZ 

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From: TBache9248@aol.com
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:30:05 EST
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From: "Steve Mace" <steve@solwise.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:02:02 -0000
Subject: Re: Heater duct on D90

The solution is not so much being able to pipe into the 
snorkel for the heater box; I think routing the air intake to 
the side/wing vent would problably sort the problem since 
it's mainly due to steam etc.. coming from the engine 
bay.  

The problem is I've looked at where a pipe would attach to 
the front of the heater box and it seems to be a very big 
hole with a very slight flange lip. How do I attach a 
ducting pipe to the front of the box and route it to the, 
now free vent on the side of the wing (I don't have what 
ever pipe was originally used to see how LR do it)?

You see the problem? :)

Cheers

Steve

On 3 Feb 99, at 14:37, Simon Minshall wrote:

> Couldn't the engine air intake and the heater intake share the snorkel?
> you could make a "Y" joint and connect the two intakes to the snorkel.

Name: Dr Steve Mace
E-mail: steve@solwise.co.uk
www: http://www.solwise.co.uk
Tel: +44 1482 621888
Fax: +44 1482 621877

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From: "John McMaster" <john@chiaroscuro.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:13:13 -0000
Subject: RE: To vent or not to vent ???

Bound to beat the traffic jams in Cornwall by staying in Devon ;-)

john

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From: "Dave White" <dave@bang.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:56:51 -0000
Subject: Re: New Land Rover owner & Fuel tank

> Thanks all for your answers. I'll try to check your advices next weekend.
> One other thing I found: I thought that LWB came with a big rear fuel
>tank. Mine has smaller (I don't know the capacity) side mounted under the
>passanger seat.

LWB V8 and 2.6 all had rear tanks of varying sizes but I think some of the
others had side tanks....

Dave White
'82 V8 Stage 1 SW (Light Green)
'69 2.6 LWB 2A (in bits)

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From: Bill Caloccia <caloccia@senie.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:38:40 -0500
Subject: Mis-Adventure in Vermont

I'm breaking my own rules and I'm posting this across all the lists for
a number of reasons.  Mostly because many in the US community may have 
read a message in this thread, and the threads have crossed two lists, 
the RRO list and the D90 list. 

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	http://Empire.Team.Net/1999/Killington/

Recently a number of list readers in an adhoc winter off-roading trip in
Vermont (Northeastern US) encountered a number of problems - ranging from
mechanical to weather.

The net result was half of the six vehicles required mechanical repairs, two
of those were actually disabled and abandoned on the trail in the middle of
a stream.  The passengers forced to return to the trailhead on foot, crossing
through a number of run-off swollen creeks.

Most of the discussion has centered about the behaviour of some of the
participants. What their behaviour was, is known to four people who were
there. Most of the rest of the discussion/supposition/defense are peoples
thoughts on the individuals involved or their behaviours/actions/re-actions
as reported.

All of these messages and commentary have been gathered into one place, not
with the intent to judge, harm or glorify any of the people involved, but 
rather to relate this event as a cautionary tale, in the hopes that others
can learn from it, and avoid having another party return from a trip or
event in similar or worse circumstances, and also to avoid the damaging
conflicts between individuals which adversely affect the community.

    Cheers,
          Bill Caloccia			wpc@Caloccia.Net
	 http://www.Caloccia.Net/wpc/
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From: Marijn van der Himst <marijn@multiweb.net>
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 02:29:21 +0100
Subject: Re: plastic bowl conversion

--From: "Frank Elson"
--...there is a plastic bowl conversion as well, do it on all my motors,
--saves all that rusty sh*t at the back of the lights...

 Frank, donnow about that: in freezing temperatures these plastic bowls
 tend to crack, thus collecting even more mud off the front wheels!
 Not as a rule, but 've seen it occur.
 Thinking about it, you could turn on the headlight five or so minutes before
 putting the thing into gear, just to warm them up...

--...I'll pass them on to the Ninety-year-old woman who really writes my
column,..
 That must be the one you've been taking out to dinner ;-)

 Cheers,
 Marijn. (don't flame me, I'm not even a piano player...)

 Note: this is not to be used to fill up space on anyone's column!
 :)

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From: "Clive Taylor" <clive@tcns.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 01:42:41 -0000
Subject: Re: Re[2]: proposed changes to car tax

Hmm,

Well having spent a week's holiday in Austria (not skiing but hot air
ballooning - no I don't know Richard Branson) and having 256 e-mails on my
return, I've had nothing from Tony or any of his mates. I used the "New
Labour" email address.

That was the closest I could get to No 10. In my drunken stupor I could only
assume that when the blue underlined name was Tony Blair, that it would
reach our beloved leader.

It turns out that there is no direct e-mail to "Das Capital". In fact you
will be lucky to find your MP or even MEP on the net. It appears that this
country is less well advanced in IT than I had been led to believe (see
Sunday Times article this weekend - which I read on the ferry on my return).

I sometimes wonder why I bother to learn the latest instruction set from
Intel and AMD so that I can write the smallest fastest drivers in the West.
Why am I now even bothered to learn how to program PICs if we live in a
society as backward as our masters in Whitehall and Downing Strasse would
have us believe? Enough of this. Democracy, like nostalgia, ain't what it
used to be.

"LR Content."

Over 1500 miles on a knackered  engine, and the Range Rover still performed
brilliantly in the Austrian Alps and got us back home in one piece - it even
managed to acquit itself well on the Autobahn. Its only problems were mine
(when I didn't react in the right way when the German car appeared out of
the gloom and we hit a snowbank  - losing one full headlamp beam and the
washer jets froze up between Munich and Salzburg on the way home (well I
think it was the way home - it was difficult to see) - comfortingly every
other b*gger had similarly dirty windscreens as we did and couldn't see
where they were going - we still felt safer in the Rangy than they must have
done in their Eurobore cars).

Sorry for the waffle,

Clive

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From: "Clive Taylor" <clive@tcns.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 01:45:07 -0000
Subject: Re: Civilised - was List topics

Surely "these devices" allow you to *think* that you can push your luck
further. Its actually doing so that causes the problems.

Clive

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From: "Clive Taylor" <clive@tcns.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:11:50 -0000
Subject: Re: Re:Government stupidity

Tim,

So I'm not the only cynic on the block. All governments in this country have
f***ed life up for the rest of us. After all, how else could representation
by a ratio of 1/10000 be called democracy.

The problem is we (well most of us) see ourselves as shrewd political
animals (don't blame me, I didn't vote at the last election - in fact not at
any election since I was old enough - one voice in 60000 makes no
difference).

If I didn't love my country dearly and believe that we might win back the
Ashes, I would cheerfully emigrate - the papers have been in my desk for the
last 14 years. I still believe in Britain. I still think that we have the
most innovative engineers and scientists in the world, and I'm still
prepared to take BMW's takeover of Rover as a compliment. I like to think
that we have the most integrated and free society in the world (I know that
even if someone in a dark mac reads this, it will not be censored). We may
just be an aircraft carrier for the US, but even they couldn't have come up
with the LR in 1957/8.

OK I may be too drunk to make sense (I miss my family while I am working
away from home), but if we all stopped voting for the main parties they
might just take note.

Clive

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From: "Clive Taylor" <clive@tcns.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:15:49 -0000
Subject: Re: Government stupidity

Mick,

I couldn't agree more. The British motor industry was sold out from under us
(as well as the aircraft industry, the shipbuilding industry, all other
major engineering industries and all branches of engineering and scientific
research).

Shame, really 'cause that's what we're best at.

Clive

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From: "Clive Taylor" <clive@tcns.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:21:53 -0000
Subject: Re: Re[2]: proposed changes to car tax

She just like having 4 doors.

Clive

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From: "Clive Taylor" <clive@tcns.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:28:28 -0000
Subject: Re: Re[2]: proposed changes to car tax

Frank,

See article in this weekend's Sunday Times. Seems that we are the only major
democracy where raising a point with the local MP is a bit of a No-No.

Clive

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From: "Clive Taylor" <clive@tcns.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:30:51 -0000
Subject: Re: list topics/Blue tinted bulbs

Look, Frank,

Down here its a lot easier to carry a twelve bore than a catapult, OK? Its
all that keeping the French away from you of a more northern persuasion with
our Martello towers and Southward facing castles and all.

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From: "Clive Taylor" <clive@tcns.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:32:42 -0000
Subject: Re: LPG (the cheapest)

And balloonist.

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From: "Clive Taylor" <clive@tcns.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:33:37 -0000
Subject: Re: Re-VED (tax!) on fuel

Such touching faith

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From: "Anwar Hussein" <CJKARH@arcochem.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:34:05 +0700
Subject: Re: land rover screen saver

Hi,

Yes, I do not disagree......Sorry, for lacking of parts on the extreme
action picture or something like that to share with others. But really I'll
be love it and very sure I need some (if you don't mind)
afterall....................

Ciao......

+ 1974 Maroon 109 +

"David Vella" <landy@digigate.net> on 02/02/99 04:49:35 PM

Please respond to uk-lro@playground.sun.com

cc:    (bcc: Anwar Hussein/ACAP/ACC/ARCO)
Subject:  land rover screen saver

hi guys

i was thinking !! what about making a land rover screensaver ??

just send me the pics (one pic per person) of his land rover (could be in
some extreme action or anything else)

and i will make a screen saver when i gather enough pics - it will take
time
as i have to program the land rover screen saver myself !!

nice to include
series vehicles
90 and 110
101 forward controls
lightweights
range rover and any other  land rover related !

try to send pics which are of a nice resolution to david@gfifax.com !!

Jeeps and other 4x4s not accepted :))

cya

     David Vella
  GFI Fax & Voice
 [www.gfifax.com]
-=1988 White 90=-

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