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From: "Dave White" <dave@bang.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 21:43:37 -0000
Subject: Re: He who doesn't ask .....

>it!...Most dangerous!

Ah a fellow pyromaniac (sorry pyrotechnician) at heart, only people like us
would KNOW that that is what happens :-))))

Dave White
'82 V8 Stage 1 SW (Light Green)
'69 2.6 LWB 2A (in bits)

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From: "Dave White" <dave@bang.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 08:21:22 -0000
Subject: Re: Artic Landrovers

>1. Does anyone have a picture of a LR "arctic heater".  Usually found in
>Lightweights and other military LR beasts operating in, well, artic
>conditions!

No but Blanchards had a LtWt with one last time I was there, lots of tubes
and a box betweene th seats I think.

Dave

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From: "Steve Mace" <steve@solwise.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 08:50:25 -0000
Subject: Re: Copyright

Okay... I'll bite...

On 6 Feb 99, at 20:32, Michael Wells wrote:

> BTW I sell a product which allows vehicle to run on unleaded which were not
> designed to , I can supply more details to those interested.

Tell me about your product.. Off list if you think it will 
offend other readers:)

Steve

1972 SIII LtWt
1993 D90
In the UK
Name: Dr Steve Mace
E-mail: steve@solwise.co.uk
www: http://www.solwise.co.uk
Tel: +44 1482 621888
Fax: +44 1482 621877

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From: "T.D.I.Stevenson" <gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 09:24:13 -0000
Subject: Re: Drain plugs & Rocker cover gasket

> Reading the owner's manual regarding oil changes, I've got the impression
>that I must change the drain plug of the engine sump (as other oil drain
>plugs). Is the true or is this avoidable?
Unless the old drain plug is chewed up, you can re-use it. My 90 has a
copper sealing washer between the drain plug and the sump which I replace
(sometimes).

> One other thing I'll do is to change the rocker cover gasket. It's cracked
>and the engine is loosing some oil that way. The Haynes manual doesn't
>clearly explain if I must use any jointing compound and as it's a first
>time job for me I'm unsure how to do it.
I stick the gasket onto the rocker cover with Blue Hylomar to stop it
falling off during fitting, but don't put any on the head. Make sure the
mating surfaces are clean before you fit it.
Use an engine detergent like Jizer or Gunk to clean the engine, rather than
petrol.

Tom Stevenson
University Marine Biological Station, Millport, Isle of Cumbrae, Scotland
Tel: 01475 530581  Fax: 01475 530601  Email: gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk
Web page: http://www.gla.ac.uk/Acad/Marine/

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From: "Steve Mace" <steve@solwise.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 10:04:53 -0000
Subject: New heater for LtWt

This weekend it got just cold enough for me to yet again 
rethink my idea of adding a sumplimentary heater to the 
LtWt (I do this every year but then the weather changes 
and I forget all about it for another 12 months!). Does 
anyone know of a good donor 'all-in-one' heater which is 
suitable: i.e. easily available from the scrapper, complete 
with circulation fan, compact, easy to fit etc...?

I would like to fit it just behind the central bulkhead with 
pipes running in serias with the existing heater (if that's 
what you call it!?).

Thanks...

Steve

1972 SIII LtWt
1993 D90
In the UK
Name: Dr Steve Mace
E-mail: steve@solwise.co.uk
www: http://www.solwise.co.uk
Tel: +44 1482 621888
Fax: +44 1482 621877

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From: Dave Haynes <david.haynes@roke.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:14:54 -0800
Subject: Re: Heavy Vehicles

John McMaster wrote:-

>ago I saw them at Essex Arena. Mario Aliperti had his Graz (sp?) huge
>Russian (?) thing towing a flat bed trailer with an Alvis Stalwart on
it ,

Funny you should mention a Stalwart. There was one at Chichester
Off-Road this weekend, as well as a Volvo BM Snow Track. The Volvo is
very impressive, but the
Stalwart is just awesome, until it got stuck :-(

But what a sight, bit like Gulliver in Lilliput, eleven Landies with
ropes and winches to
haul the beast free.

Just that made it worth the many buckets of water carried from my third
floor flat
to wash the worst off the Rangie, followed by sneaking round to the
JetWash just
after dark :-O

That clay just sticks like the proverbial to a woollen sleeping
accessory!

Dave

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From: John Strang <john.strang@bbc.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 10:57:35 -0000 
Subject: Flame Throwers & Running on Unleaded

Hi Guys..

Dave was boasting about his pyromaniac, sorry pyrotechnic
skills, but what is a parafin gun..??

also Michael was selling a product allowing motors to run
on unleaded, is this an octane booster, a lubricant or both ??

NB does anyone out there know what the octane ratings 
for 4 star, Unleaded, and super unleaded are ??

I'm interested both for the Series III which needs the lubricant,
(bit like me and Mister Fullers finest ales!)
but also for me Honda Legend, which is currently 4 star or
Super Unleaded only..

Thanks in Advance..
Strange John	john.strang@bbc.co.uk (Nr heathrow)

1994 LSE
1976 Series III SWB
1998 Triumph Speed III

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From: Andy Gardiner <101_nut@shedcity.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 10:39:41 +0000
Subject: re: rocker cover gasket

In message <bulk.21545.19990208000535@Land-Rover.Team.Net>, owner-uk-
lro-digest@playground.sun.com writes
>> One other thing I'll do is to change the rocker cover gasket. It's cracked
>>and the engine is loosing some oil that way. The Haynes manual doesn't
>>clearly explain if I must use any jointing compound and as it's a first
>>time job for me I'm unsure how to do it.
>On most cars it is just a cork gasket not jointing compound but I too have
>never had one off a LR

It is cork on a V8 ... held to the *cover* by a bit of evo-stik so it
doesn't flop about whilst you're trying to position the cover!
-- 
Andy Gardiner

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From: "Collins, Andy" <adc44128@GlaxoWellcome.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:16:29 -0000 
Subject: Loose Spark Plugs?

I've just changed the oil in my 3.9 V8, it having done 3000 miles since I
got it, and whilst waiting for the flushing additive to do it's work, I
noticed that 6 out of 8 spark plugs were vibrating!!!!!! After switching
off, it was apparent that these 6 spark plugs were loose by at least
half-a-turn! I finished the oil change, tightened up the plugs, and test
drove it, but there seems to be little difference in performance.

Has anybody seen this before, or is it just likely that they were left loose
by the last person to change the plugs?

Regards,

Andy Collins
adc44128@ggr.co.uk
siii@globalnet.co.uk
Stevenage UK
'92 RR Vogue SE
V8/SIII Hybrid 'in build'

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From: "Burton, Andrew" <andrew.h.burton@bt.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:29:09 -0000 
Subject: RE: Artic Landrovers

Elwyn,

I have a winterised kit in my 109 at home, if you want I can get the
camcorder out, capture them and post them via email
if you want.

Andy Burton
SIII 109 FFR (winterised)

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From: doghouse@cix.compulink.co.uk (Michael Dyer)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 99 12:39 GMT0
Subject: Re: Artic Landrovers, RUPP prosecutions.

Re : LWT - You wont believe this Elwyn, I was looking at one 
yesterday...but sorry, I didnt take a photo.

ISTR that LROi featured an article on a restored Arctic-service LWT a 
while back. Suggest you phone LROi and enquire of their back issues dept.

Re: Prosecutions - TVM, my short-term memory must be, er....

73s and 88s

:-) Mick Dyer (doghouse@cix)

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From: "Dave White" <dave@bang.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:30:11 -0000
Subject: Re: Flame Throwers & Running on Unleaded

>Dave was boasting about his pyromaniac, sorry pyrotechnic
>skills, but what is a parafin gun..??

I must admit I am intereested too, I have both pyromaniac tendancies and
pyrotechnic skills :-)

I don't have a parafin gun but it sounds interesting, and if I had one I
would almost certainly have made a flame thrower....:-)

Dave White
'82 V8 Stage 1 SW (Light Green)
'69 2.6 LWB 2A (in bits)

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From: "Seymour, Gareth" <gareth.seymour@sihe.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:53:31 -0000
Subject: snow and paint

Greetings from south wales with a lot of big white patches...

Cracking morning to wake up to today.......all the fields next to my
house were white and the lane and the Landie.....got to work and no snow
tho'....still may take a look at Sarn Helen tonight I can see there's
snow on the Brecon Beacons....

Anyway enough of the childish excitement over some white stuff.....

Just getting ready to paint the old racer. Primed the bare metal
yesterday with the self etch primer just got to decide on a colour. I
was going to use proper autogloss but my mate who's painting it said
"buy standard household liquid gloss, thin it with petrol....much
cheaper, sprays fine".

He has hand painted his big Merc van that he tows with gloss and it
looks OK from 10ft or more. Sprayed it should look a lot better. Any one
out there used household liquid gloss ??. Could be looking at 15 quid
compared to 45 quid.

At the end of the day the racer could be rolled at anytime and will
always have a good splatering of mud/dust. I don't plan on going slow
enough for people to pick faults !!.

bye for now,

Gareth

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From: "T.D.I.Stevenson" <gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:48:39 -0000
Subject: Re: Loose Spark Plugs?

>Has anybody seen this before, or is it just likely that they were left
loose
>by the last person to change the plugs?

I was once driving down the moor road into town in my old SIII. There was a
bang from the engine, followed by loss of power and a loud chuffing noise. I
thought that something catastrophic had occurred, but all I could find was
that one of the spark plugs was missing from its normal place and was
dangling from its HT lead. I replaced it, but found that over several weeks
it would work loose again. I replaced the entire set with new ones and the
problem never re-occurred.
Tom Stevenson
University Marine Biological Station, Millport, Isle of Cumbrae, Scotland
Tel: 01475 530581  Fax: 01475 530601  Email: gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk
Web page: http://www.gla.ac.uk/Acad/Marine/

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From: "Peter Dowson" <Peter.Dowson@softwareag.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 14:00:04 -0000
Subject: Re: snow and paint

>Just getting ready to paint the old racer. Primed the bare metal
>yesterday with the self etch primer just got to decide on a colour. I
>was going to use proper autogloss but my mate who's painting it said
>"buy standard household liquid gloss, thin it with petrol....much
>cheaper, sprays fine".

Spraying petrol doesn't sound like a good idea to me. I know that standard
paint thinners is pretty volatile but I think I would like to be well away
from your vehicle when the spraying is taking place.

Peter

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From: "Dave White" <davew@landie.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 11:08:54 +0000
Subject: Re: fees for entering an event?

> I am curious about how much the fee is for the various LR competitive
> events in the UK such as the Welsh HillRally, Bulldog, Webster, etc.

> The reason I am asking is there is an outfit in Florida here in the states
> running a so called competition and they are charging $400 (call it 250

> quid) per vehicle.   I can understand insurance and site prep being costly
> but this strikes me as being kind of high.

Sounds to be on a par with the Hill Rally fees - the Scottish & Welsh Hill
Rallies are about 300 quid, the Lincs Hill Rally is about 200 quid.

I suspect the cost of the land for the stages is the biggest overhead - 20
stages can mean 20 land owners on that kind of event, pay them all a few
hundred quid each and it soon mounts up.

Dave White

Dave White <davew@landie.demon.co.uk>
Yorkshire Rover Owners Club
<http://www.landie.demon.co.uk/>

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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 14:17:08 -0000
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From: "Bonorchis, Conrad" <ConradBonorchis@interim.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 16:14:44 -0000 
Subject: Picture in LROi

		Hi Guys.

		In the March 99 edition of LandRover Owner International
there is a short (very short) article on page 23 called 'Plane sailing',
with a photo of a series landie with the rear drive tranny being used to
drive a saw mill.
		The guy who took the photo is a friend of mine and he gave
me the photo last night, so I scanned it in.
		Have a look at
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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 18:05:54 -0000
Subject: RE: fees for entering an event?

Paris Dakar is about 9000 quid (15000usd!)

Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110

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From: "Baker, Stuart J" <bakersj@bp.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 18:05:08 -0000 
Subject: Re:Drain plug and Rocker box cover gasket

You should only have to replace the washer of the drain plug.  Not the plug
itself.
The rocker box cover gasket is usually just of the cork type.  I was taught,
just to apply a very thin layer of engine oil to the gasket before fitting.
It's worked for me.

Stuart
SII Big and Yella (Sorry Frank)

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From: "Neill Hogarth" <Neill.Hogarth@allgaeu.org>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 22:17:05 +0100
Subject: Re: snow and paint

Gareth wrote
> Cracking morning to wake up to today.......all the fields next to my
> house were white and the lane and the Landie.....got to work and no snow
> tho'....still may take a look at Sarn Helen tonight I can see there's snow
> on the Brecon Beacons....

We have 1 meter of snow in the back garden and have just spent 
all afternoon boarding up the windows against the expected 
avalanche off the hillside. Tonigh another meter is forecast.

My childish excitement is wearing out, except when I ose the LR to 
go and get more wood, nails or something else important. Then the 
snow is fun!

Neill Hogarth

Nesselwang -
 - in the Bavarian Alps

Neill.Hogarth@allgaeu.org
ICQ 11799898

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From: "Dave Codrai" <dave@codrai.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:48:21 -0000
Subject: Re: Flame Throwers & Running on Unleaded

John

>but what is a parafin gun..??

Similar to a paint spray gun but designed for parafin, used for washing down
engines and the like.
>NB does anyone out there know what the octane ratings
>for 4 star, Unleaded, and super unleaded are ??

2 Star                                   =        91 Octane
4 Star                                   =        97 Octane
Super Unleaded                 =        97/98 Octane
Premium Unleaded            =        95 Octane
Regular Unleaded              =        91 Octane  (Europe only apparently)

Dave

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From: "Dave Codrai" <dave@codrai.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:56:04 -0000
Subject: Re: Artic Landrovers

Elwyn

>1. Does anyone have a picture of a LR "arctic heater".

No pictures but have owned a couple of 109's with artic heaters, did you
just want a picture or some info ?
>2. Is there a set pattern for "artic tiger" camouflage?

Probably, but in practice you give a squaddie pots of paint and brush (often
a broom) and say "paint that so it looks like the one over there" !

Dave

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From: doghouse@cix.compulink.co.uk (Michael Dyer)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 99 22:31 GMT0
Subject: Re: snow and paint

Peter offers some proximity advice

<<<<<< but I think I would like to be well away
from your vehicle when the spraying is taking place.>>>

....about three counties, for me.....

73s and 88s

:-) Mick Dyer (doghouse@cix)

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From: "Elwyn Demon" <Elwyn.york@ey-eg.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:16:53 -0000
Subject: Re: Artic Landrovers

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From: "Matthew Reeve & Mel Mauger" <blatchwood@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:48:00 -0000
Subject: Re: snow and paint

>He has hand painted his big Merc van that he tows with gloss and it
>looks OK from 10ft or more. Sprayed it should look a lot better. Any one
>out there used household liquid gloss ??. Could be looking at 15 quid
>compared to 45 quid.

>Gareth

I did the rangie with a can of dulux gloss and a roller, as long as you
don't skimp on the coverage, it gets a pretty good finish with minimal
effort (i.e. no masking etc.). For a vehicle that gets scratched on lanes
most weekends, it's not worth spraying. As long as it's properly primed, it
will stand up to a lot of abuse and still look good. It doesn't retain the
gloss for long though, I suspect you would need a clear lacquer on top to
keep that.

Matthew
UK, nr Heathrow
1979 2-dr Range Rover 300Tdi

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From: "Matthew Reeve & Mel Mauger" <blatchwood@btinternet.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:22:47 -0000
Subject: Re: Artic Landrovers

>Probably, but in practice you give a squaddie pots of paint and brush
(often
>a broom) and say "paint that so it looks like the one over there" !

Or more simply, go somewhere with snow, and paint it so you can't find it in
the morning.

Matthew
UK, nr Heathrow
1979 2-dr Range Rover 300Tdi

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