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From: "Peter Dowson" <Peter.Dowson@softwareag.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:42:18 -0000
Subject: Re: Renovating leaf springs

Subject: Renovating leaf springs

There are a number of places which will recondition leaf springs - look in
the Vintage car magazines for adverts, like The Automobile. I considered
this when doing my 80" but the cost was not that different from buying new
ones and the old ones were in dire straits.

Peter Dowson
S1 80"

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:25:51 +0000
Subject: Theories anyone??

Driving in to work yesterday morning,the 88 was dragging badly to
the right.I ahd a quick look round,but could see nothing obviously
wrong.At lunchtime it was still the same,with stiff steering to boot.
After lunch,a further examination revealed a distinctly low pressure
front O/S tyre,which I reinflated.I took it to a local tyre place,
thinking (as you do) I had a puncture.They took the tube out, pumped
it up.Nothing.Not a bubble.They looked at the tyre and could find
nothing wrong.This morning its still OK.So what went wrong? The tyre
is a Bronco 205R16 AT with a tube,also 205R16 ie the proper tube
for radials.I could have understood the deflation had I not had the
tube in,afer all bead to rim seals occasionally do fail,but hardly
with a tube present.Anyone got any theories?
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: "Peter Dowson" <Peter.Dowson@softwareag.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:01:40 -0000
Subject: Re: Theories anyone??

Someone stuck a match in your valve !

Peter

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From: Geoff Wilkin <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:14:56 -0000
Subject: Re: Renovating leaf springs

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From: "Saunders.Richard" <Richard.Saunders@haltoncollege.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:22:32 -0000
Subject: paraffin gun

Sounds like Frank and others might need a couple under the front bumper when
off roading...
 
If Frank sees a non GREEN Landy in front well......
 
How do you make a LR bark? Petrol and a match, Woooof...
 
Remember Frank that Green is a mix of colours...
 
Richard  (in a White One)

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From: chris.mokes@symbian.com
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:10:04 GMT
Subject: colour

     
     Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but on Frank's page this 
     month....
     Frank if that is you at the top looking out of the side window of your 
     motor, it looks *blue* in my copy!  Of course I do have a blue shirt 
     SWMBO tells me is green :-)
     
     Chris
     (white 90)
     

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From: Andy Gardiner <101_nut@shedcity.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:17:41 +0000
Subject: Overfinch rangie ... and welding petrol tanks

In message <bulk.18912.19990211000555@Land-Rover.Team.Net>, owner-uk-
lro-digest@playground.sun.com writes
><<<<< I'll pull the auxiliary tank and get it 
>     welded up later. >>>>
>Not in the same county as me, 

For a less dangerous solution to a leaking but structurally sound petrol
tank, get it steam cleaned inside and out and use 'slosh sealer' in it.
It's a white latex type stuff that forms a skin over the inside of the
tank. We cut a new aftermarket tank down by slicing a 2 inch strip out
of the middle (the tank hung down too far and would have suffered during
trialling). Needless to say, the welding wasn't really up to the job and
it leaked like a broken sieve! One can of slosh sealer and it's been
leak-free for three years now. It's main use is for classic-car tanks
that are weeping - the petrol soaking through the fabric of the tank -
due to hairline cracks or corrosion. Works well and costs about 15ukp to
do a Slll tank. We got it from the local classic-car-supplies type
place.

Just my sixpenny-worth. I hate the idea of welding petrol tanks ...
-- 
Andy Gardiner

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:22:47 +0100
Subject: Re: Theories anyone??

Sounds to me like you had a flat tyre... :-)

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:50:33 +0000
Subject: Re: Theories anyone??

>Sounds to me like you had a flat tyre... :-)

Only at the bottom,Adrian..

Mike Rooth

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From: "Saunders.Richard" <Richard.Saunders@haltoncollege.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:32:01 -0000
Subject: Blue things

I know that I am a little of topic but
 
Are there any people out there who knows what the Blue poles with aerials
and detector things on the top, these things are springing up all over north
Shropshire and Cheshire.  They seem to be in National speed limit areas and
open country?
 
I am just being nosey.
 
Richard.   (Still White Frank)

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From: "Peter Dowson" <Peter.Dowson@softwareag.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:50:18 -0000
Subject: Re: Blue things

These are the monitoring points for the company ( cannot remember the name )
that provide traffic data and routes to avoid major bottlenecks.

Peter Dowson

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From: "Finch, Mark" <Mark.Finch@BSKYB.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:15:34 -0000
Subject: Calling all dutch subscribers

Hi all,
	At the moment I'm in the process of restoring a Dutch Army Diesel
Lightweight, I have managed to source most the the items that are special to
the Dutch Lightweight, but there are a few things that I'm having a problem
with.

1. Dutch flag stickers, I need 4 of these

2. Another sticker that is in the shape of a shield and is half blue and
half red witha gold star in the middle of it.I need 2 of these

3. The Dutch radio equipment that was on this type of vehicle.

Any help that you can give me would be greatly appreciated. I hopefully be
in Holland in the March / April so I could pick them up them then, once
again thanks. 

Yours Mark Finch

Member of the Ex-military Land Rover Association.

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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:43:34 -0000
Subject: RE: Theories anyone??

Or some mud....

Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110 

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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:44:07 -0000
Subject: RE: paraffin gun

The most NATURAL colour for a Land Rover is a sort of muddy brown, with
patches of bare aluminium, and oil showing through.....

If its muddy enough it doesn't matter what the paint is :-)

Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110

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From: "Tony Bartels" <tony@bartels.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:36:28 -0000
Subject: Re: Blue things

They are the new traffic master system that was to go live on the trunk
routes by Autumn 1998. They are a bit vague on there WWW site as to when
they will finally go live.

Tony  88 RR (Green)

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From: "Rich" <Rich@llanthony.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:51:06 -0000
Subject: Re: Blue things

> Are there any people out there who knows what the Blue poles with aerials
> and detector things on the top, these things are springing up all over north
> Shropshire and Cheshire.  They seem to be in National speed limit areas and
> open country?
 
There are for the little traffic master things that you stick to your 
dashboard. The detectors check the speed of the passing traffic 
and relay the info to base, which then use the aerial to tell you 
where the congestion is.

> I am just being nosey.

Nothing wrong with that. What they don't say is that it is prob a 
Series Landy holding the traffic up ;-)

It's nice to be back here!!!

Cheers
Rich
(SIIa SWB)

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From: "Micky" <micky@big101.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:41:11 -0000
Subject: Re: Blue things

I've seen a few around Notts and Lincs lately. There's one on the way into
work.

One of my mates works for the county council and says they are there for
counting cars. You know all those local radio station traffic reports, well
they get their information from a central computer nowadays. These little
boxes count the cars and tranmit the data to the computer via the little
arial thingys.

Anothern mate has been done by speed cameras before and reckons they are
plain clothed police cameras which can do you for speeding, read your car
tax and measure your inside leg measurement. I've driven past one at 80/85
before and nowt's happened so I tend to believe the former theory.

Cheers

Micky
101 in bits
>I know that I am a little of topic but
>Are there any people out there who knows what the Blue poles with aerials
>and detector things on the top, these things are springing up all over

north
>Shropshire and Cheshire. They seem to be in National speed limit areas and
>open country?
>and detector things on the top, these things are springing up all over

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From: "Micky" <micky@big101.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:47:57 -0000
Subject: Re: Renovating leaf springs

>>Next on the list is to get the chassis rolling again. One of the centre
>>bolts on a rear leaf spring has badly corroded and despite lots of
>>persuasion, refuses to leave the leaves. The nut is off, and the other end
>>of the bolt is stuck in the axle casing. The bit in the casing I can
>>probably drill out, but what about the bit in the leaves?
>Cut the bolt with a pad saw, between the spring and the chassis, do it both
>sides then the spring will drop off the chassis, then you can attack it on
a
>bench.

I've got it on the bench (well, leaning up against the garage wall) - it's
getting the centre bolt out of the leaves I have a problem with.

Another spring resisted all attempts to remove it from the chassis - 6 ft of
scaffold tube refused to persuade the bolts to let go. However, I waved Mr.
A Grinder at it and it just fell off! Amazing!

All I have to do now is find another pair of shackle plates... :(

Cheers

Micky
101 in bits

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From: Jerry Hoare <jerryh@orchis.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:56:19 -0000
Subject: RE: Blue things

New Trafficmaster sensors.  They are extending the coverage of their system 
to all major trunk roads - to be switched on in the next few months.
Interestingly, these new sensors are actually cameras (with infra-red LED 
illumination built in).  The system reads your number plate - actually only 
the centre-5 characters (for legal reasons) - which is then transmitted to 
the central computer.  When the same characters are read again at the next 
sensor, the system can tell how fast you have travelled and so how fast 
traffic is moving.

Jerry
LR90 TD CSW

-------- ORIGINAL MESSAGE -------------
 I know that I am a little of topic but

Are there any people out there who knows what the Blue poles with aerials
and detector things on the top, these things are springing up all over 
north
Shropshire and Cheshire. They seem to be in National speed limit areas and
open country?

I am just being nosey.

Richard. (Still White Frank)

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From: Geoff Wilkin <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:29:41 -0000
Subject: Re: Overfinch rangie ... and welding petrol tanks

Scothclad (775 ??)  is the stuff to use, made by 3M,

Its been mentioned on here several times..

Best Regards
Geoff Wilkin

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'97)
All views expressed are my own and are no-one elses! (or so I am told).

'84 110 CSW - Green & Clean
'73 Lightweight V6 - All in bits

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From: "Geoff Wilkin" <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:36:08 -0000
Subject: Re: Blue things

Hmmm we got them down here as well saw my first one last week..
Anything to do with the  DETR "Breaking the Logjam"
consultation doccument on their site www.detr.gov.uk under the consultation
doc section.

I will ask around..

Best Regards
Geoff Wilkin

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All views expressed are my own and are no-one elses! (or so I am told).

'84 110 CSW - Green & Clean
'73 Lightweight V6 - All in bits

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From: "Geoff Wilkin" <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:39:53 -0000
Subject: Re: Blue things

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From: "Geoff Wilkin" <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:43:45 -0000
Subject: Re: Blue things

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From: doghouse@cix.compulink.co.uk (Michael Dyer)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 99 21:57 GMT0
Subject: Re: Overfinch rangie ... and welding petrol tanks

Of course, filling the tank with fine sand - and I mean FULL - gets rid of 
the vapur just as easily whilst you're welding the seam.

73s and 88s

:-) Mick Dyer (doghouse@cix)

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From: Famlyprice@aol.com
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:15:06 EST
Subject: Re: unsubscribing from a different address

Hi all
Can anybody help, due to the fact that I am unable to get BT to enable my CLID
to be attached, Freeserve have disabled my ability to send outgoing mail.
Due to this I am unable to unsubscribe from my freeserve address -
dave@riverwood.freeserve.co.uk
Can anybody help as, although its their own fault, it wont help if uk-lro
messages just keep stacking on their system.
Thanks for any help

Dave SIII 109 2.25 petrol Safari

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From: Rich@llanthony.co.uk
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:53:30 -0000
Subject: Re: Blue things

> .... then why are they on an obscure, unclassified road outside Cambridge?

Dunno! Could be something else I suppose!!! The ones I am 
thinking of are about 12 feet high (never checked tho...) and have 
"squarial" type detectors at the top. On m-ways there is only one, 
on A roads there are two - one pointing in each direction.
 
> Main roads, trunk roads, and even B road...
> Not so likely on the backroads.

I suppose it could warn you when the farmer is herding the 
livestock along the road :-)

> Maybee you are right... but then this one doesnt make sense.

Must be something else then!!!

It's when you start seeing them on "green lanes" you ought to 
worry ;-)

Cheers
Rich

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:30:13 -0000
Subject: Re: Overfinch Rangie...

you'll struggle with the upper vent panel, y can get 'em but they cost a
mint.
sounds like a good wife to have, mine won't even attempt to drive the Land
Rover, even on ASDA car park.
I'm sorry also to tell you that you'll never get an decent performance out
of a LtWt.
I had the 2000TC engine out of a Rover fitted in mine. It was "good" for
90mph with Rangie Diffs and an overdrive, but at anything above 65 it wanted
to shake itself to death.
You'd have to spend an awful lot of money on bodywork (bonnet doors etc)
before you could get a LtWt to do any real speed.
Best just accept it for what it is....... a plodder with character.....
Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:38:45 -0000
Subject: Re: re ...

I just gave up and went to text only, still miss the nice bold green of HTML
tho'
mind you, the sig is to go out there, not to look nice to me and to many of
you 'orrible shower (Oh, god, reruns of "It Ain't Half Hot" are having an
effect)  were moaning about the sig being all over the shop.

Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:46:33 -0000
Subject: Re: re paint ...

>>>>>I reckon there are six colours for Land Rovers,Frank.Bronze Green
Light Green,Dark Grey,Light Grey,Marine Blue,and Sand.As advertised
for Series Twos.So there.>>>>>

Bigot me? I'm the most easy going, do your own thing person I know.
I am aware that there are many people in the world, including Land Rover
Ltd, who either like colours other than Bronze Green, or who "have to put up
with it".
I have pity and charity for you all..........

Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: doghouse@cix.compulink.co.uk (Michael Dyer)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 99 00:22 GMT0
Subject: RE: Blue things

Jerry shows a touching innocence

|<<<<<.  The system reads your number plate - actually only the centre-5 
characters (for legal reasons) - which is then transmitted to the central 
computer.  >>>>

I would suggest that the Plod have had a great deal of input into a system 
which can record _just_ where car X was on such-and-such a time.  In this 
country, civil liberties are disappearing faster and in a more insidious 
manner than ever before.....so do you _really_ believe that they would 
restrict the software to only read the middle 5 characters? and then risk 
prosecution fro failing to turn over required info to the Establishment?

Yeah right.

73s and 88s

:-) Mick Dyer (doghouse@cix)

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From: "Clive Taylor" <clive@tcns.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 01:01:46 -0000
Subject: Re: Overfinch Rangie...

>Best just accept it for what it is....... a plodder with character.....
Just remember, Frank, That you said that.

Ah, well. Suits the wife then (I really am glad I married her - she's almost
as laid back and relaxed as I (and the dog) am - besides of she's prepared
to mend her own LR, I can spend more time on the running rebuild of the
Rangie (sorry, but its Blue)).

I can't vouch for the type of CD she'll be wearing at Billing this year.
Just be glad that I haven't got round to enabling her e-mail account on our
network at home yet (so am I, otherwise she'd be reading this reply) .

>sounds like a good wife to have, mine won't even attempt to drive the Land
>Rover, even on ASDA car park.

Mine kicked up a hell of a stink (glad she can't read this) when ASDA
imposed a height restriction on their car park down here.

Where I live (deepest Kent) we have snow as good as anyone else in the
country. We live 10 miles from the nearest town. I happen to rather like my
family and wish them safe. We have nothing but Land Rovers. Seen a Volvo hit
by a couple of tons of LR? Makes a very good mess. BTW the SWB is Bronze
green. The LWt is matt green (about to be repainted - probably in camo
colours - green and black). The RR is blue. Sorry, but it looks good in
blue. I need to change some of the paintwork  (lost in white powdery
something....it will be blue).

Incidentally, she'd love to see (as would I) her name in print in your
column. If you have room for a Sue Taylor mention as a wife who looks after
her own LWt next month (which will arrive not too long after her birthday
(22/2)), I'll stand you a couple of pints (or maybe more - who knows) at
Billing (unless work keeps me away - the kids are desperate for another
visit).

Clive
SIII SWB (Very dead, currently - smoke from behind dash last time I tried to
fire it up)
SIII LWt (Used and enjoyed daily)
RR EFi - '86 so not too much luxury)

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From: doghouse@cix.compulink.co.uk (Michael Dyer)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 99 01:17 GMT0
Subject: Re: Lwts

Frank says

<<<<<I'm sorry also to tell you that you'll never get an decent 
performance outof a LtWt>>>>>

Even an 8-cyl Frank? < Aside> 'Here, Cathy, there's some guy called Elson 
here who says your buggy wont go very well'

' Tell him it will if you ever get it finished'........

73s and 88s

:-) Mick Dyer (doghouse@cix)

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From: Jerry Hoare <jerryh@orchis.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:04:53 -0000
Subject: RE: Blue things

> From: Michael Dyer [SMTP:doghouse@cix.compulink.co.uk]
> Jerry shows a touching innocence

Jerry works in the electronic security industry and understands the 
implications of the technology :-)

Jerry
LR90TD CSW

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From: Jerry Hoare <jerryh@orchis.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:10:23 -0000
Subject: RE: Blue things

You're right, Geoff.  It reads the lot, but only uses the centre-5.

Jerry
LR90TD CSW

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From: Jerry Hoare <jerryh@orchis.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:51:28 -0000
Subject: RE: Blue things

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