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1 Michael Becker [Michael.25Sicherungen/Fuses
2 wayne@yorkshire.u-net.co21Solido Model in Green just for Frank
3 wayne@yorkshire.u-net.co8[not specified]
4 Marijn van der Himst [ma46re: loose nuts
5 Jan Schokker [janjan@xs4311998 LROI tyre test
6 Jan Schokker [janjan@xs417LROI 1998 tyre test 2
7 "Peter Estibeiro" [peter31Re: 1998 LROI tyre test
8 tc971613@student.paisley15Re: Lack of Daily Digest
9 "Peter Estibeiro" [peter22Re: Hands on the wheel (was Re: safety (sheep droppings))
10 "Gewoff Wilkin" [geoff.w36Re: 1998 LROI tyre test
11 The Bickertons [Bickerto38Bad drivers
12 Gordonkerr@aol.com 34Re: 90 V8 Ignition Switch
13 Gordonkerr@aol.com 5[not specified]
14 "Rich" [Rich@Llanthony.c16RE: Bad drivers
15 "John Slater" [G6euo.Ray5Re: Lightweights
16 "Tom Murkin" [tom@rivers32Re: Trailer warning light/Instrument panel wiring
17 "Tom Murkin" [tom@rivers34Re: Safety/loose nut
18 "Tom Murkin" [tom@rivers17Re: 90 V8 Ignition Switch
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From: Michael Becker <Michael.Becker@post.rwth-aachen.de>
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 09:29:01 +0100 (MEZ)
Subject: Sicherungen/Fuses

Hello Neill,

though we might conversate in german, I will stick to English to make sure 
everybody interested can 
understand my message.

I had a 1986 110 some years ago. Actually, I had no problems to get fuses. I 
bought them at an ordinary 
supplier for car spares here in Germany. They were from 'HELLA' - you will have 
heared of the name. It were 
those cylindrical ones, and I had no problems at all with the length. Think I 
have some left. I can measure the 
length for you if this helps. Maybe I can also find a number on them so that 
you can order them at your local 
supplier. 

Greetings from Aachen

	Michael Becker

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From: wayne@yorkshire.u-net.com (Wayne Davies)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 09:36:19 GMT
Subject: Solido Model in Green just for Frank

It was at Craven Models, Skipton, near the Castle, but no doubt many
similar shops will have it available to them.

I say Craven Models with total bias because the dear chap is placing an
advert in the newsletter.

I can get one and kick it all the way to your house if you like Frank,
should look something like by then....

-- 

Wayne Davies         Editor of Ex-Military Land Rover Newsletter
  Harrogate             Website info on SAS Pink Panther, Lightweight,
 North Yorks       Shorland, Belgian Minerva & Armoured Land Rovers
01423 526642                      www.yorkshire.u-net.com

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From: Marijn van der Himst <marijn@multiweb.net>
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:44:32 +0100
Subject: re: loose nuts

Arhg! Nuts on the loose! Hold on...

  Frank, you wrote:
[[My theory being that if those who are able (ie big dirty beaten up Land
Rover) [['punish' them, (...)
[[However, rather than drive dangerously myself I will ALWAYS back off.

  Got very simular sentiments, but it seems futile... 'they' seem to come 
in increasing numbers... scary
Now, if a group of, say 20, Green Land-Rovers were to do normal cruising
speed -at intervals- , on a daily basis, on the same road, during rush-hour,
for a week or two, how would the effect be, I sometimes wonder... 
...dreaming again... would never get that many people...

[[BTW my other comments on Volvo drivers becoming dangerous these days was
[[not specific, but in general it is true.
  Yes. Sadly. NVO versus OVO, ridiculous.

[I do not believe - or like not to
[believe - that anyone with enough in their head to enter this pub would
[deliberately do anything anti-social, whether on the road or anywhere else.
  Even without enough in my head, would not dare :)
                      ****
  b.t.w. the saw-dust *on* my head is my external memory.
                      ****

[[of course, you're family.
    ...
    Ah. I see... Allright then, if the day comes when one of the family 
    askes me to return the favour, I'll be ready.
                                                 <|%=\>

      ________
     |______|_\_==_   SIII 109 FFR
     |___|_|"__|_ _|  Long & Green,
      (O)```````(O)   donnow where's its been

 Best Regards,
 Marijn van der Himst
 

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From: Jan Schokker <janjan@xs4all.nl>
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:25:24 +0100
Subject: 1998 LROI tyre test

Dear all,

After coming to the conclusion that a set of new tyres to replace the silly
looking 205's would be of more use then a Leica camera that is not used most
of the time I now have the money to take the 109 back to its original looks.
I guess a lot of people must have read the tyre test in the 1998 may issue
of LROI.
After reading that article my (well LROI's) conclusion was that you should
no longer go for BFG Trac-Edge, but take a serious look at General Grabber
AP and Avon Range Master.
Yet, in this group there is a lot of talk about the Trac-Edge, never the
other two.

Are there people here with experience with the tyres that came out so well
in this test?
It seems that the Grabber is not available in a size close to 750-16. Am I
right (I don't want to go much wider)?
For the dutch readers: now the best place to buy the above mentioned tyres?
 
As always, thanks for any input.

Regards,
Jan.

Ex-mil 109 with high suspension but small tyres.

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From: Jan Schokker <janjan@xs4all.nl>
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:42:11 +0100
Subject: LROI 1998 tyre test 2

One more thing:

What do you think of the older type Avon Range Master with the squarer
thread pattern?
The tyre tested in LROI has a rounded thread pattern and doesn't seem to be
available in 750 R 16.
The older type is.

Thank,

Jan.

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From: "Peter Estibeiro" <petere@srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 16:09:22 +0000
Subject: Re: 1998 LROI tyre test

In reply to Jan's message about tyres:
I think all the tyres you mention and many others besides are really 
very good.  The best tyres are whatever you can get at a good 
discount.  I almost bought a set of Trac-Edge a couple of years ago 
then a local tyre dealer got a container of brand-new Olympic 
Steeltrek which he sold for ukp 60 per tyre.  That was about 40 
pounds per tyre less than Trac-edge for a tyre of similar quality and 
spec (Steeltreks are used as standard by Austrailian military.).  
They are really excellent.  I'd buy more unless I had to pay full 
price, in which case I'd see if any of the other reputable tyres were 
available for less.  There are horrible cheap tyres which should be 
avoided but most of others are all good.  Get the best deal, you 
probably wont be dissappointed with the tyres.

Cheers
Peter.

Peter Estibeiro
Membrane Biology Group
Department of Biomedical Science
University of Edinburgh
Edinburgh EH8 9XD
tel: 44 131 6503731
fax: 44 131 6503711
email peter.estibeiro@ed.ac.uk

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From: tc971613@student.paisley.ac.uk (Timothy Coles)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 16:47:06 -0800
Subject: Re: Lack of Daily Digest

Hi Everybody,
The network here at the Uni is doing strange things today and I have not 
recieved yesterdays or
tadays(sunday+monday) digests.  If everyone else is doing fine can someone 
e-mail me off-list to let
me know so I can go and talk to the brick wall that is the remedials of the 
Computer Services Unit.
Thanks
TIM

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From: "Peter Estibeiro" <petere@srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 09:56:59 +0000
Subject: Re: Hands on the wheel (was Re: safety (sheep droppings))

> >what the 'Advanced Test' people would say about this as to achieve the
> >above manoeuvre I use:
> My first response to this is "clever dick" :-)

No, he said Hand-controls!

P

Peter Estibeiro
Membrane Biology Group
Department of Biomedical Science
University of Edinburgh
Edinburgh EH8 9XD
tel: 44 131 6503731
fax: 44 131 6503711
email peter.estibeiro@ed.ac.uk

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From: "Gewoff Wilkin" <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:19:38 -0000
Subject: Re: 1998 LROI tyre test

I have Trac Edges, with about 12k on them, So far so good.
235/85 x 16 's

They are good, I have no complaints.

Cant say about the Grabbers... never had any.

But no probs with the Trac's.

Best Regards
Geoff Wilkin

This note is copyright of Geoff Wilkin and should not be published
elsewhere in whole or part without the strict agreement of the author.

EMail      geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com
Homepage - http://www.btinternet.com/~geoff.wilkin - (Site REVAMPED 18 Sept
'97)
All views expressed are my own and are no-one elses! (or so I am told).

'84 110 CSW - Green & Clean
'73 Lightweight V6 - All in bits

.>After reading that article my (well LROI's) conclusion was that you should
.>no longer go for BFG Trac-Edge, but take a serious look at General Grabber
.>AP and Avon Range Master.
.>Yet, in this group there is a lot of talk about the Trac-Edge, never the
.>other two.
.>Are there people here with experience with the tyres that came out so well
.>in this test?

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From: The Bickertons <Bickerton@compuserve.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:32:22 -0500
Subject: Bad drivers

Maybe it's just my overexposure, being 17 and all, but I seem to be cut up
most by young drivers in Novas, Golf GTis and Fiesta XR2s. Favourite
manouvre is 'Ooh! A LandRover. Must be doing about 20mph. Sure, I can
overtake a car going towards him, coz I'll be long gone before ... aah ...
umm .... F*CK! He's doing 70! <SCREECH> Mmmmm. Air horns', or there's 'Brow
of a hill, bend, bridge, *level crossing* etc. I can pass this Landy here'.
But then I drive on country roads, and very rarely do traffic work
(although the bullbar does suggest that I'm changing lanes NOW). It's just
assertive driving, trying to organise the plebs who drive around, in front
of and under my SIII. (And as you must realise, it's always everybody else
who's wrong, never me). I will admit to being so aggravated by an RS Turbo
who cut me up then sat revving in front of me at the next lights, that I
crept to within an inch of his rear (I could feel his bass through the
steering). But that's OK because if everyone did it, queues would be so
much shorter (?)

Seriously, I think LR drivers have potential to be, on average, better
drivers (except me). We have more information available to us from being
higher up and having mirrors the size of a small nation, driving a larger
vehicle allows you to move and hold people where they should be with only a
little thought (eg. not inside an artic on a roundabout). Plus (as Tim Burt
will testify) low range smooths the flow of traffic in jams. And then
there's the argument that NOBODY falls asleep driving a Series
motor........ I do agree that it's the driver who causes accidents, not the
car. Most of the time I enjoy driving (although I probably do it very
badly), but if I'm tired, preoccupied etc I tend to just steer and pedal,
rather than actually /drive/.

<A rant a day keeps the blood pressure above the level specified by the
bureaucrats in Europe, so that must be a good thing>

John B

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From: Gordonkerr@aol.com
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:40:44 EST
Subject: Re: 90 V8 Ignition Switch

Hi Frank

In a message dated 22/02/99 00:18:56 GMT Standard Time,
frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk writes:

> been there done that got the tshirt. Had the problem for more than six
>  months, you learn very quickly to compensate. putting a new un in is easier
>  than Mr Haynes says it is.

It's a relief to know that it is possible to live with if needs be. I was a
bit worried because the switch also contains the steering lock. Can do without
it suddenly deciding to lock without warning! Also good to know it isn't as
difficult as it sounds. The hardest part would seem to be removing the old
bolts. Any tips on how to get them out??
  
>  >>>>>PS to Frank - any news on the manual? - looks like I might be needing
>  it!!!<<<<<
>  sorry sorry sorry,  got something inthe post weighed (guess) half as much
>  and cost 5UKP... so got scared.
>  Will send it tomorrow but don't blame me if the postage makes you
>  sweat........:-(

It's OK, I promise not to complain about the cost of the postage. I expected
it to be costly anyway.

Thanks

Gordon

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From: "Rich" <Rich@Llanthony.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:57:08 -0000
Subject: RE: Bad drivers

> We have more information available to us from being
> higher up and having mirrors the size of a small nation, >
> John B

Wing mirrors? What are they? Mine never seem to last more that a few weeks
before they get smashed/ripped off :-(

Driving... I do notice that people are a lot more "tolerant" of me driving
slowly in the Landy... in the MG people can get very aggressive... but then
so can I :-)

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From: "John Slater" <G6euo.Raynet@btinternet.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:17:24 -0000
Subject: Re: Lightweights

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From: "Tom Murkin" <tom@riverside-repairs.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 00:32:58 -0000
Subject: Re: Trailer warning light/Instrument panel wiring

Marijn wrote:
> Sounds like some sort of short-cut in the circuit, like the wire going
> towards the warning light is getting current from a live-feed somewhere.
> Firstly, clean every connector you spot along the way. If that don't help:

Thanks Marijn, Cured the problem yesterday - I loosened the instrument panel
so I could reach in and feel for loose conections.  This made the light
sometimes go out.  Ended up accidently braking one of the wires which went
into the flasher unit and this cured the problem!

As this broke off it brushed on the metal bracket the flasher is secured to
and blew a 25A inline fuse, but everything seems to work fine now - even the
indicators flash instead of just flickering.

Don't know why a live wire should be running to the flasher with the
ignition switched off, but it just makes me more glad I fitted a battery
cutoff switch.  How difficult is it to rewire just the instrument panel on a
series 3?  there seems such a tangle of wires and snap connectors in there
its only a matter of time before something more serious goes wrong.  I could
only move the panel forward by about 1 inch, what are most series 3's like
behind the instruments?  How neat is the wiring supposed to be?

Thanks

Tom
Series III 2.5D

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From: "Tom Murkin" <tom@riverside-repairs.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 01:14:45 -0000
Subject: Re: Safety/loose nut

Frank wrote:
>there is a fair bit of lane changing (on
>motorway slip roads etc) involved and this does lead to a lot of bullying
>and downright dangerous driving from people attempting to accrue an
>advantage (that often disapears at the next jam or set of lights). These
>people, if I am able, I WILL NOT allow to get away with it. My theory being
>that if those who are able (ie big dirty beaten up Land Rover) 'punish'
>them, maybe they'll not try it later on a confused person and cause an
>accident.
>However, rather than drive dangerously myself I will ALWAYS back off.

I made the mistake once of not letting someone in front of me after they
undertook a whole line of cars waiting at traffic lights then came to a
parked car on the inside lane.  He then stayed right behind me for about 3
miles until I decided to stop, then got out and started shouting at me for
my 'inconsiderate' driving and not letting him in because he didn't see me
in his blind spot!

After I locked the door and refused to 'sort it out' I picked up my mobile
phone and pretended to call the police, at which point he shot into the
distance doing at least 60mph in a 30 limit.  I will now always let drivers
like this in front of me.  The car involved was an Escort XR3i with blacked
out windows - need I say any more?

Cheers

Tom
Series III 2.5D

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From: "Tom Murkin" <tom@riverside-repairs.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 01:20:08 -0000
Subject: Re: 90 V8 Ignition Switch

>The hardest part would seem to be removing the old
>bolts. Any tips on how to get them out??

Don't know about a 90 but on SIII the starter switch is a separate unit on
the back of the steering lock.  As for getting the old bolts out, don't try
the way I did - using a hand drill by torch light (don't ask).

Cheers

Tom
Series III 2.5D

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