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From: Patrick Colbeck <pat.colbeck@esc.azlan.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:21:12 +0000
Subject: Re: Sceech turns into dead gearbox

On Thu Feb 25, 1999 at 06:52:35PM +0000, Dave White wrote:
> >> Dunstable sort of area...
>   [ truncated by lro-lite (was 11 lines)]
> > That would be a bit of an expensive tow since I live in North Yorkshire :)
> > Pat
> hi ! message from Davew - he will get back to you later on this, he's had to
> rush out. Apparently there is a auto specialist near Leeds, so might not be

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> such a problem.
> Pam (his ever patient wife)

Thanks, I had the mechanic from the next village to me recover it and he is
goint to drob the box and have a look, he was happy to swap in a recon box
but seems a little hesitant about repairing one. It would be great to have
somewhere he can send it if it gets too much for him.

NB the high and low selector is very very very stiff as well although diff
lock engages nice and easy, is this connected to my cuurent problem or have
I got two problems with this transmission. I must addmit the extent of my
off roading is ferrying people accross fields occaionally so I cant rember
the last time I had to use the high low selector, do they get stiff due to
under use ?

Pat - who is feeling less depressed this morning than he was yesterday after
starting the day by hitching four miles to a garage.

-- 

 Patrick Colbeck 	  email: pat.colbeck@esc.azlan.co.uk          
 Senior Analyst            tel:  you dont seriously expect me to 
 Azlan Ltd                       give that out on the internet do you ?

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From: "Iain Tennant" <i.r.tennant@dundee.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:37:44 GMT
Subject: Re: Defender station wagons

Geoff muttered.....

>again No complaints. I am tubeless, older LR rims need tubes. Dont 
>know about the new

Tubeless no problem on the newer rims.   Our  XPCs are as fitted 
(tubeless) by LR on the standard rims.  Out of interest, although the 
tyre is marked "tubeless" it also specifically  says on the sidewall 
that tubes may be fitted if required.

> They all leak... but who cares?... 

Oh no they don't!  Granted, virtually all land rovers I've had 
contact with over.. cough..cough.. years have (of course) leaked but 
our present 110 is the absolute antithesis of this and has NO leaks  
(YET! I hear you shout).  Seriously though, LR are actually capable 
of producing  vehicles with decent doors seals.  I have no way of 
course of knowing if ours is the only one in existence though!  :-)

>just drill a couple of holes in the floor
> to let it out!.

We could suggest to LR that this be offered as a factory-fitted 
optional extra!  

I know you've got your tongue firmly in cheek Geoff but.... no,   IMO 
it's not unreasonable to expect in this day and age that even a new 
LR meets some pretty basic standards and rainwater pouring down the 
inside of the doors of a new car is simply not acceptable.

> Tsk Tsk... "Had"  it waxoyled.... if you want it done properly ... do it
> yourself

A question of time and needs-must as they say.  I was very specific 
on what was to be done and had it on the ramp straight after to check 
they'd done a decent job.  They did as good a job as I could have,  
complete underside with bitumous Waxoyl and inside all chasis members 
and doors with clear.  I also spent a couple of hours afterwards 
doing various other bits and pieces.  This is not the end though and 
the annual summer assault with the waxoyl sprayer will be done as 
always by your's truly.

Regards,

Iain

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From: Anthony Cornell-Hewlett <Tony.Cornell-Hewlett@Bristol.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:11:59 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Re: Freelander (LANDROVER SPIRIT OF ADVENTURE)

OK, I know that the Freelander has less capability over rough terrain then
a Susuki Jeep!  Even so I quite like the look of them and they appeal to
me as an economical second car for travelling to work rather than using
the V8 90.  Also due to IMBO giving me an ultimatum that the series III or
the 90 had to go, the coils won I'm afraid!  Mainly due to the problem of
leaded fuel post 2000 and before I read the dvlc proposed road tax cost
increase!   Still I am persuading IMBO that the only thing that can pull a
double horse trailer is a V8, keeping fingers crossed that the EU doesn't
impose towing regulations, then I will have to argue for a 110 upgrade
(less fun on the rough though!!!).

Back to the point:  As the Freelander is badged a Landrover and fairly
priced I would like one!  However, when going to a local Landrover Agent I
looked around one and tried to open the back door, as one normally does by
squeezing the handle, no joy, locked I thought...!   The Sales man speaks
up and says 'you can't open that it is controlled electronically and it is
switched off................!'  Maybe I'll look for a second hand disco
once I've checked the floor panels for rust!

The reason: can you imagine going through a puddle and getting
your electrics wet or an electrical problem exists, and in the Freelander
that would't have to be very deep, your engine stops so you pop around to the
back to get the dogs out and the handwinch or tools you carry cause you
are a prepared offroader!  However, you can't open the door because there
is no electrickery.....!

>From what I hear Defenders are going the same way?

I refuse to have a car with electric windows for the reason that you can't
wind the window up or down without having to turn the ignition on!

Wish I kept the series and dropped a diesel in it.

Regards

TONY C-H
90 County V8 1987

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From: "Iain Tennant" <i.r.tennant@dundee.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:11:30 GMT
Subject: Re: Defender 110 CSW

Adrian wrote:

> galvanised cappings, handles on the back, hand throttle. They should be
> standard.

Don't think a hand throttle was ever a standard fitting, certainly 
not on SIIs, SIIIs but...  a definate Yes!  to the rest.   Sad, 
but it's unlikely to happen though.
> galvanised cappings, handles on the back, hand throttle. They should be

> I removed the ront seat bottoms to check underneath. Funny little
> battery - why is it inside the car instead of under the bonnet (manual

This isn't a new location for LR batteries.  I recall our 1969 
6 cyl IIA had an enormous battery in the same place.  It's a bit of a 
pain when you want to give someone a jump-start though.  The box is 
v. well ventilated though.
 
> Under the middle front seat there is a box of Lucas/Rover electrics

EGR unit if I remember right.

> a funny little switch with a rubber nipple on it - what does this do? Is

I've also wondered about this.  The rubber bit is a dust cap for a 
socket.  Part of the service diagnostic system maybe?

> Well - I'm playing with it, crawl ing underneath (Do catalysators
> actually work on diesels - I didn't know that) 

I asked the same question a couple of years ago.  The TD5 
apparently doesn't have one as it is "so efficient".

Regards,

Iain

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From: "Peter Dowson" <Peter.Dowson@softwareag.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:28:33 -0000
Subject: Re: Freelander (LANDROVER SPIRIT OF ADVENTURE)

Anthony Cornell-Hewlett wrote :-
->
-> snip
->The reason: can you imagine going through a puddle and getting
->your electrics wet or an electrical problem exists, and in the Freelander
->that would't have to be very deep, your engine stops so you pop around to
the
->back to get the dogs out and the handwinch or tools you carry cause you
->are a prepared offroader!  However, you can't open the door because there
->is no electrickery.....!
->
-> snip
->
So how many dogs do you need to pull out a stuck Freelander, and do you have
numbers for the other LandRover models? (Does the breed matter?)

Peter Dowson

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From: "Iain Tennant" <i.r.tennant@dundee.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:28:00 GMT
Subject: Re: It's amazing what you see in Morrisons car park

> look. The vehicle looks like a SWB / 90 from the rear, but smaller, and =
> seems to be based on a Scamp or other Mini-based kit car. Didn't get the =

Not at all like a 90 but it couldn't have been an Austin Gypsy?

Regards,

Iain

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From: Geoff Wilkin <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:03:10 -0000
Subject: Re: Defender 110 CSW

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From: Rtes@aol.com
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 06:03:08 EST
Subject: Re: Adrian/300TDi

If someone else hasn't mentioned it yet, the little device under middle seats
should be the EGR valve (Exhaust gas recalculation.) Common to most modern
diesel engines and just about as effective as catalytic converters.
To start a new stream, maybe. it was explained to me that B4 a cat starts
functioning to the benefit of the environment the ambient temp needs to be in
the order 20 degrees C. So they would work well in California but Denmark...
 5 years of 300TDi driving. fuel consumption 30+ mpg
                                          performance more than adequate
                                          only leaving the line esp. loaded
and towing does it  lack  "oomph" but more than makes up for this once
rolling.
One last thing, I had no idea the age for driving was so low in Denmark and
your command of English seems better than mine, what a clever little chap you
must be.
Have a better one.
Robert (not SHOUTING) Stewart
Sorry but it does look like that's your age.
I only read the digest so response will be slow.

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From: "Iain Tennant" <i.r.tennant@dundee.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:14:34 GMT
Subject: Re: Defender 110 CSW

> They havent had galv cappings for at least 10 years (bad decision)

hear hear!
> They havent had galv cappings for at least 10 years (bad decision)

> Waxoyl the shit out of it... drench it inside and out (if you buy her!)

absolutely!

> I dont think you have a Cat on a diesel. it for unleaded engines isnt it?..

It is indeed a Cat.  Standard fitting on 300s from late '96.   The LR 
blurb on the TD5 says it doen't need a Cat because of the efficiency 
of the engine.

Regards,

Iain

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From: Andy Gardiner <101_nut@shedcity.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:50:44 +0000
Subject: Re: size of ballast resistor wire

In message <bulk.14259.19990226000633@Land-Rover.Team.Net>, owner-uk-
lro-digest@playground.sun.com writes
>>Ask a stupid question, but what is the resistance of the ballast wire in
>>a '76 rangy supposed to be?
>Nothing in Range Rover manual or parts book but from a non LR data book
>resistance is 1.3 - 1.5 ohms

My hero!

Thanks,
-- 
Andy Gardiner

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From: "Micky" <micky@big101.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:07:34 -0000
Subject: Re: It's amazing what you see in Morrisons car park

>> look. The vehicle looks like a SWB / 90 from the rear, but smaller, and =
>> seems to be based on a Scamp or other Mini-based kit car. Didn't get the

=
>Not at all like a 90 but it couldn't have been an Austin Gypsy?
>> seems to be based on a Scamp or other Mini-based kit car. Didn't get the

Nope... it _looked_ just like the back end of a Landy, but was smaller -
like a scale model. Definitely not a Gypsy.

Running gear definitely seemed to be Mini based - low ground clearance,
slightly higher at the rear that the front, 13 inch wheels (give or take an
inch). Next time I see it I'll have a closer look.

Cheers

Micky
101 in bits

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From: Anthony Cornell-Hewlett <Tony.Cornell-Hewlett@Bristol.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 12:13:50 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Re: Freelander (LANDROVER SPIRIT OF ADVENTURE)

On Fri, 26 Feb 1999, Peter Dowson wrote:

> snip:
> So how many dogs do you need to pull out a stuck Freelander, and do you have
> numbers for the other LandRover models? (Does the breed matter?)
> snip

You need just enough dogs to patrol the area and bite the ankles of the
pisstakers, mocking you because you got stuck!  The Breed doesn't matter
but obviously the dogs should be called names such as Rover etc.

ps Hows your ankles Pete......?

Regards

Tony C-H
1987 V8 90 County

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From: Anthony Cornell-Hewlett <Tony.Cornell-Hewlett@Bristol.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 12:27:39 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Re: Military Landrover Club (not list in general)

Sorry this is to the list in general but I have deleted past messages and
can't remember who the original requester was for some photo's of military
Landrovers.

I've looked through all my old photo's and only found two photgraphs with
any landrover content:

	1.	a glimpse of the front of a LHD 101 & LHD Ltwt in Germany

	2.	a row of rolled/range damaged LWB series IIIs in Canada
                (I might submit this one to LROI)

I don't think either of them would have any value for Military Clubs
sorry

Regards

TONY C-H
1987 V8 90 County

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From: tc971613@student.paisley.ac.uk (Timothy Coles)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 13:22:14 -0800
Subject: Re: The UK/IERE Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

>    LR's response to this in a recent
> issue of LROi was that they couldn't  achieve the consistent
> tolerances required for the assembly line with galvanised frames.
> I'm not sure I'm convinced by this argument.

What you mean they actually have tolerances?  They don't just use a drunk man 
with a piece of
string?

TIM

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From: "Dave White" <davew@landie.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 13:45:11 +0000
Subject: Re: Freelander (LANDROVER SPIRIT OF ADVENTURE)

> squeezing the handle, no joy, locked I thought...!   The Sales man speaks
> up and says 'you can't open that it is controlled electronically and it is
> switched off................!'

What he actually meant to say is - it's locked !

The Freelander has two stage central locking - when you open the door using
the key fob, the drivers door is the only door to unlock. This is for
security reasons - it makes hijacking of the vehicle more difficult as the
only way in is the way the driver is getting in...

A second press of the key fob will unlock the rest of the doors including
the back door. If you want all the doors to open simultaneously on the first
press, your dealer can switch it over for you.

Should you be stuck in said puddle and don't want to open the rear door for
fear of getting nasty muddy water all over your lovely Freelander carpets
you can press the key fob again (and hold it for a few seconds) and the rear
window will open, allowing your towing dogs to get out and pull as required
:-) This works whether the ignition is turned on or off.

Having said all that, if the electrickery fails completely, you still can't
open the back door due to the rather sexy way that the rear window engages
in the top door seals... if you don't know what I mean find one and try it !

If you are seriously looking for an off roader, don't buy a Freelander. If
you are looking for a good looking car with some off road/snow/wet grass
capability, buy a Freelander. (Or a Subaru Impreza Turbo).

Dave W

Dave White <davew@landie.demon.co.uk>
'72 SIII  V8 auto, Range Rover Chassis
'89 Range Rover
'80 Range Rover (For Sale...)
'98 Freelander
Yorkshire Rover Owners Club
<http://www.landie.demon.co.uk/>

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From: "Dave White" <davew@landie.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 13:06:43 +0000
Subject: Re: Sceech turns into dead gearbox

> On Thu Feb 25, 1999 at 06:52:35PM +0000, Dave White wrote:
>> >> Take it to Ian Ashcroft, of Automatic Conversions somewhere near Luton /
>> >> Dunstable sort of area...
>   [ truncated by lro-lite (was 12 lines)]
>> such a problem.
>> Pam (his ever patient wife)
> Thanks, I had the mechanic from the next village to me recover it and he is
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> but seems a little hesitant about repairing one. It would be great to have
> somewhere he can send it if it gets too much for him.

There is a place in Huddersfield that seems to be regarded in the trade as
THE place to get autos fixed... My own experience of them has been very
good too. Contact:

Ronauto
Tel: 01484 426243

They can give you a price on a repair kit or can repair the box for you.
I don't think a local mechanic would have a problem repairing the box with
the kit - especially with some "over the phone advice" from Ronauto.

Your high-low selector problem is unrelated to the auto box and is probably
just due to lack of use... Easy solution, take it off road more often :-)

regards
Dave White

Dave White <davew@landie.demon.co.uk>
'72 SIII  V8 auto, Range Rover Chassis
'89 Range Rover
'80 Range Rover (For Sale...)
'98 Freelander
Yorkshire Rover Owners Club
<http://www.landie.demon.co.uk/>

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From: gwinston@cisco.com (Graham Winstone)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:56:52 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Re: Freelander (LANDROVER SPIRIT OF ADVENTURE)

Dave White wrote:
  If you are seriously looking for an off roader, don't buy a Freelander. If
  you are looking for a good looking car with some off road/snow/wet grass
  capability, buy a Freelander. (Or a Subaru Impreza Turbo).

Couldn't agree more.  Taking my Freelander just through some of the more
deeply rutted byways round hear produces some very interesting scraping
noises from the underside of the vehicle.  Nothing has fallen off yet, but
I never managed to get this scraping on my 90 no matter where I took that.

Also when the traction control or the HDC kicks in, the car is capable
of making some very worrying grinding noises without the need for scraping
its belly along the ground.

I just love the rear window though.

- Graham

(still saving my pennies for a more serious weekend vehicle...)

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From: "Iain Tennant" <i.r.tennant@dundee.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 15:14:33 GMT
Subject: Re: Freelander (LANDROVER SPIRIT OF ADVENTURE)

> Having said all that, if the electrickery fails completely, you still can't
> open the back door due to the rather sexy way that the rear window engages
> in the top door seals... if you don't know what I mean find one and try it !

Whatever happened to "keep it simple"?    We were given a Diesel FL 
at the last service.  It drives well but this rear window is weird. 
Pull the handle to open the door and there's a delay while the window 
motor cuts in and drops the window about 1/2" away from the seal.  
Also, for me the steering wheel completely obscures the top half of 
the speedo even with the column adjusted right up.  Was perfect for 
SWMBO but we both found the front screen pillars v. obtrusive.
>.
> you are looking for a good looking car with some off road/snow/wet grass
> capability, buy a Freelander. (Or a Subaru Impreza Turbo).
. 
Have a good friend who decided (and also managed to persuade her 
husband!) that a McCrae Special would be a good wheeze.  Living in 
Braemar they're used to lots of snow around and this was to be her 
ultimate winter car.  Lovely machine...only problem is that once 
behind the wheel it scared her absolutely witless (or similar!).  
Last I spoke with her the Subaru was on the market!

Regards,

Iain

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 17:28:02 +0100
Subject: Re: Adrian/300TDi

But what does the EGR valve do, and how does it work? And why is it
mounted such a bloody silly place?

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From: Geoff Wilkin <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 16:19:40 -0000
Subject: Re: Defender 110 CSW

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 17:35:18 +0100
Subject: Re: Mike Hammer(ite)

I heard so much hype about hammerite, that i could not resist trying it
when I rebuilt my 88 last year. I followed the instructions carefully,
prepped the metal properly, but already the rust is showing through. At
twice the price of normal marine grade black paint I would never use it
again.

I stripped my 109 front axle last night and sanded the paint - it was
the normal recipe - three coats rust paint, 2 coats black marine enamel
- after 5 years the paint was still OK, but as I'm doing a total
rebuild, i stripped it anyway.

Hammerite is great for parts which are not so exposed as the underside
of the chassis. Brake servo vacuum tank, radiator, metal brackets - a
nice finish and a quick drier with just one coat.

You must only apply one coat (paint all you ´want in the first 45
minutes) after which you must not add more coats until 6 weeks have
passed and the paint has cured.

Find a good marine enamel and stick to it...

Adrian Redmond

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From: "Iain Tennant" <i.r.tennant@dundee.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 17:03:33 GMT
Subject: Re: Defender 110 CSW

Geoff invited...
> Well bugger me with a blunt wooden spoon...
>.
Don't want to appear rude but..  no thanks,  if that's o.k. ...., in 
fact, come to think of it,.... even if it is o.k.    :-)

Regards,

Iain

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From: "Iain Tennant" <i.r.tennant@dundee.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 17:11:42 GMT
Subject: Re: Adrian/300TDi

> But what does the EGR valve do, and how does it work? And why is it
> mounted such a bloody silly place?
>.
The box of tricks contains the ECU for the Exhaust Gas Recirculator.  
Basically takes exaust gas and chucks it into the engine again to 
improve emission quality.  The other end of the cables from the ECU 
re-appear at the connector on top of the injector.   Ask LR for the 
answer to part B.   I re-mounted ours on the front of  the home-made 
cubby box.

Regards,

Iain

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From: Rtes@aol.com
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 12:22:58 EST
Subject: re: The UK/IERE/Adrian/300TDi

Subj:	Re: Adrian/300TDi
Date:	26/02/99 11:03:08 GMT Standard Time
From:	Rtes
To:	uk-lro@playground.sun.com

If someone else hasn't mentioned it yet, the little device under middle seats
should be the EGR valve (Exhaust gas recalculation.) Common to most modern
diesel engines and just about as effective as catalytic converters.
To start a new stream, maybe. it was explained to me that B4 a cat starts
functioning to the benefit of the environment the ambient temp needs to be in
the order 20 degrees C. So they would work well in California but Denmark...
 5 years of 300TDi driving. fuel consumption 30+ mpg
                                          performance more than adequate
                                          only leaving the line esp. loaded
and towing does it  lack  "oomph" but more than makes up for this once
rolling.
One last thing, I had no idea the age for driving was so low in Denmark and
your command of English seems better than mine, what a clever little chap you
must be.
Have a better one.
Robert (not SHOUTING) Stewart
Sorry but it does look like that's your age.
I only read the digest so response will be slow.

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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 18:25:52 -0000
Subject: RE: Defender 110 CSW

Chassis life is a variable thing.
Mine is un-galvanized, 10 years old, and no signs of other than surface
rust.  It will probably need replacing due to physical damage before the
rust worm has had a meal.  Brother's 110 is 14 years, and the bulkhead is
looking like it wants some attention, but the main legs are still in good
shape.
Both vehicles were bought second hand, after a hard life as forestry and
estate duties, and probably only saw a pressure wash when it was time for
their MOT tests, so no gentle life for them.
I can but assume that the grade of metal used is less prone to rust than
some older materials.  I can also guarantee that there will be people on the
list who will say 'three years old and full of holes'.

Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110

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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 18:25:58 -0000
Subject: RE: Defender 110 CSW

Catalytic converters are fitted to some diesels to reduce the amount of HC
emissions.  They work at lower temperatures than those on petrol engines, so
are less prone to be being wrecked by a gentle swim in a cold river, so
should last quite well, but I bet they are just as expensive.  The TD5
manages to be a very clean, and efficient, engine due to its combustion
chamber shape, very high injection pressure, and things like that.

Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110
P.S. Used the blunt wooden spoon on someone at work today - they deserved it
well;-)

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From: "Tim Burt" <tim@muddyweb.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 19:54:13 -0000
Subject: Re: It's amazing what you see in Morrisons car park

Sounds like a Mini Moke to me.........   I'm far too young to remeber them
of course !

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From: "Tim Burt" <tim@muddyweb.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 22:00:09 -0000
Subject: Auto Gearbox noises

Just been thinking.   (In case you haven't already got he thing out.)

The symptoms you describe point to one of a few things :

The Torque Converter
The Internal Fluid Pump
The Fluid Level
The Fluid Filter.

Before you go and drop the whole box out and spend lots of money, it is well
worth testing the pump pressure and first of all the fluid level.   These
may give you valuable info as to where the problem is.    The procedures are
all in the LR manual, I can send you copies if you don't have them.

It would be unusual for the actual gearbox to be faulty as they seem to be
quite reliable.   I agree with one of my esteemed pub colleagues that the
Hi/Lo lever is probably just stiff with lack of use.

Just the drunken thoughts of my mind.

Cheers,

Tim Burt
www.muddyweb.co.uk

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From: AVAC11@aol.com
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 17:24:35 EST
Subject: intro

Hi all,
my name is Gernot, I do have a SIII 2 1/4 swb lhd, I had a sIII 2 1/4 lwb rhd
petrol. I do own some more non LR cars (all british).
I'll start with a question, I'm thinking of getting a defender, whats the
engine of choice, keeping in mind that I need a reasonably fast, powerful and
durable engine. I for sure wouldn't use the 2 1/4, though with a weber kit is
wasn't too bad on the LWB. I'm not particularely concerned about petrol costs
as its a company car. If it would help I might be persuaded to get a disco,
but only just. 
Yeah, ok, easy task, I know.

Thanks anyway, Gernot

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From: AVAC11@aol.com
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 17:42:20 EST
Subject: intro

Hi all,
my name is Gernot, I do have a SIII 2 1/4 swb lhd, I had a sIII 2 1/4 lwb
rhd
petrol. I do own some more non LR cars (all british).
I'll start with a question, I'm thinking of getting a defender, whats the
engine of choice, keeping in mind that I need a reasonably fast, powerful
and
durable engine. I for sure wouldn't use the 2 1/4, though with a weber kit
is
wasn't too bad on the LWB. I'm not particularely concerned about petrol
costs
as its a company car. If it would help I might be persuaded to get a disco,
but only just.
Yeah, ok, easy task, I know.

Thanks anyway, Gernot

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 01:02:18 +0100
Subject: LATIN? (no LR content)

Know that I'm not the only reactionary old fart on this list, and
assuming that there must be some others whose Latin grammar is better
than mine - can anyone translate the following...

"Pic vivere et Deum et patrium deligere"

Cheers!

Adrian Redmond

          http://www.channel6.dk/native

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From: AVAC11@aol.com
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 21:42:21 EST
Subject: Re: LATIN? (no LR content)

sounds not worth translating...

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From: "Tom Murkin" <tom@riverside-repairs.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 02:34:12 -0000
Subject: Re: Freelander (LANDROVER SPIRIT OF ADVENTURE)

>I refuse to have a car with electric windows for the reason that you can't
>wind the window up or down without having to turn the ignition on!

A friend of mine had a lucky escape a few years back when the car he was
driving ended up in a ditch with the water half way up the windows.  The
sides of the ditch prevented him from opening the door enough to get out,
and the only other way was to squeeze through the window.  Had he had
electric windows he would not have stood a chance of getting out, and could
have been trapped for several days before the car was spotted.  He will now
not even consider a car with electric windows, and can't understand what is
so difficult about turning a handle.

Tom
SIII 2.5D

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From: "Tom Murkin" <tom@riverside-repairs.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 02:43:02 -0000
Subject: Re: Instrument panel wiring

Thanks to every one who gave me advice on the wiring, I guess I will attempt
it nearer the summer when we have lighter evenings.  One more question, will
I need a new wiring harness or can I make my own (just for the instrument
panel at the moment!)?  If I make my own, what ends should I use, and does
anyone know where I can get the correct colour wires without having to buy a
roll of each colour? unless I decide to use one colour for everything ;-)

Thanks again

Tom
SIII 2.5D

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