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From: Bruce Napier <b.napier@bangor.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 09:57:58 +0000
Subject: Re Freewheel hubs

My SIII has Selectro FWHs - I'm a bit alarmed to hear about the spares
situation. I've been meaning to ask for some time about the way one of them
feels much stiffer than the other when I try to engage/disengage the drive
via the twisty bit in the end. Where does the lube come from? It feels like
the splines are gunging up, but I haven't had the bottle to take it apart
and look, and I'm even more reluctant if I can't get repalcement seals or
whatever.

Any help gratefully received.

Cheers

Bruce

Bruce Napier
IMSCaR
University of Wales, Bangor
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1980 88" SIII: Green and Cream
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From: Bruce Napier <b.napier@bangor.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:01:56 +0000
Subject: re Heating oil

My heating engineer friend tells me that the UK is unusual in that it uses
paraffin (aka 28m sec oil) as heating fuel, not diesel (aka 30 sec oil). He
reckons it's because we have little demand for it in the summer, when the
airlines have increased demand for it as jet fuel, and vice versa in the
winter.

Hope I've got this right - I'm repeating what he said from memory, and I've
only had the two cups of coffee so far this morning, so the wetware isn't
fully booted up yet!

Cheers

Bruce

Bruce Napier
IMSCaR
University of Wales, Bangor
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1980 88" SIII: Green and Cream
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From: "Peter Dowson" <Peter.Dowson@softwareag.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:10:36 -0000
Subject: Re: Re Freewheel hubs

Just a general question about free wheeling hubs. Do people really find them
of any use? I had them on my 88" S1 and never really noticed a great deal of
fuel consumption improvement (about 10% isn't it - or 1.5mpg) and the fact
that you were constantly having to lock them in or out either because of
going off-tarmac or you hadn't had them engaged for a 100 miles or so made
me, in the end, just leave them locked in.

Peter Dowson
S1 80" - now with permanent four wheel drive

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From: "Tim Burt" <tim@muddyweb.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:33:29 -0000
Subject: Re: Re Freewheel hubs

I used to have a set of Fairey hubs on my S3.  Yes, I could notice the
difference, especially going round corners.   If I had the hubs in I could
feel the diff and propshafts turning throught the steering wheel.

Didn't particularly notice much difference in fuel econonomy, but I was much
happier knowing that my front diff wasn't spinning all day for no reason.

Cheers,

Tim Burt
www.muddyweb.co.uk

>Just a general question about free wheeling hubs. Do people really find
them
of any use?

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From: Mike Thomas <miket@sqf.hp.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:24:12 +0000
Subject: Re: Blue poly-bushes

> From: Andy Gardiner <101_nut@shedcity.demon.co.uk>

> Anyone got any comments about using polybushes off-road - the blue
> comfort ones that is, I know standard yellow are too hard? They'll go on
> a RR ... perhaps ...

I've just got a set on my '84 RR which I use quite enthusiastically off
the tarmac. They don't seem to have compromised the performance much
though I haven't used it enough to really judge them - they are however
considerably better than the original suspension components that were
seriously kn*ck*r*d.

I have a friend who changed his 90 to polybushes (I think they were the
yellow ones though) and had to change half of them back to standard
rubber as it limited its off-road performance too severely.

> Awaiting you informed and always inspiring replies ... :-)

well an opinion anyway (-:

Mike
-- 
Mike Thomas - Edinburgh - RR V8

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From: "Dave White" <davew@landie.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:05:34 +0000
Subject: Re: More autogearbox problems

> Rember my gearbox that lost all drive. Well the saga continues. It was
> "clutch A" as the kind people on this list had suggested and the mechanic
> has put a new clutch in and it now has drive.

> The bad news is that he has just rung me to say that it still has a problem.
> It sets off then changes up into first then second then third then drops
> straight back to third.

> It never gets into fourth and it starts jumping up and down between third and
> second like a thing possesed. Also it occasionally refuses to change out of
> first at all. I never had this problem before the clutch went.

Hi Pat,

There are a couple of things you need to get right when refitting an auto
box...
First, the gear selector mechanism/cable needs to be correctly adjusted - it
is quite possible to get that out a notch and have some bizarre effects.
More likely though, is the second thing - the kickdown cable.

The kickdown cable, contrary to what it's name suggests, effects the way the
gearbox behaves throughout the throttle range. It sounds like it is either
not connected at all or badly adjusted. A loose cable will cause the box to
hold on to gears for a lot longer or, in extreme cases, not change gear at
all...

If the cable is connected at the engine, pull on the inner, the cable should
come out smoothly for about an inch or so, it will then need a firm hard
pull to overcome the kickdown resistance then it will come out another half
inch. (All measurements VERY approximate).

Glad to hear it was the A clutch - smug grin follows :-)

regards
Dave W.

Dave White <davew@landie.demon.co.uk>
'72 SIII  V8 auto, Range Rover Chassis
'89 Range Rover
'80 Range Rover (For Sale...)
'98 Freelander - Now with only 134 design faults :-)
Yorkshire Rover Owners Club
<http://www.landie.demon.co.uk/>

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From: MRogers315@aol.com
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:44:23 EST
Subject: re-ble poly-bushes

Hi Andy
I now run poly bushes in the areas that do not flex too much ie; radius arm to
axle. but am sticking to rubber bushings where max. movement is required ie;
radius arms to chassis. I can feel a little more vibration being passed up
from the road but have noticed no difference in articulation. I am now on the
point of replacing the panard rod bushings and am undecided whether to go poly
for longer life or stick with rubber and the inevitable never ending
replacements.
By the way I just took the radius arms into JSF and they pressed out the old
bushes & fitted the new just for the price of the bushes, now there is service
for you.

Mike Rogers
Lightweight/Range Rover hybrid

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From: "Geoff Wilkin" <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:19:26 -0000
Subject: Re: re-ble poly-bushes

From: MRogers315@aol.com <MRogers315@aol.com>
Date: 12 March 1999 15:45
Subject: re-ble poly-bushes

>By the way I just took the radius arms into JSF and they pressed out the
old
>bushes & fitted the new just for the price of the bushes, now there is
service
>for you.

Yes I took mine into my local BT garage, and pressed them out myself!... Its
nice to see that good service can still be found.

I have been thinking about making a 4 ton press from some solid Angle Iron
and a 4 ton  hydraulic Car (bottle type) jack.

Anyone done this, and if so what problems did you encounter?.

Best Regards
Geoff Wilkin

This note is copyright of Geoff Wilkin and should not be published
elsewhere in whole or part without the strict agreement of the author.

EMail      geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com
Homepage - http://www.btinternet.com/~geoff.wilkin - (Site REVAMPED 18 Sept
'97)
All views expressed are my own and are no-one elses! (or so I am told).

'84 110 CSW - Green & Clean
'73 Lightweight V6 - All in bits

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From: "Baker, Stuart J" <bakersj@bp.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:22:42 -0000
Subject: Re:Reference unleaded additive

I would be interested in anything you have on this.
I may also be able to give some info on this, as I am currently working on
the team that is responsible for developing a British standard method, to
check the levels of additives in the new leaded replacement fuel.
I don't want to bore list members, but if your interested I can certainly
expand on what's happening at the moment in the UK with regards to lead
replacement fuel.

I can hear you all yawning already!

Stuart
1961 SII Big and Yella (already converted for unleaded)

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From: John Strang <john.strang@bbc.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:46:20 -0000
Subject: RE: Reference unleaded additive/No LR Content

Hi Stuart

I'd be interested in hearing the (non techie) info on lead replacement
also if you have anything on octane boosters I'd be interested..

To Michael (The original poster), I was one of those who replied,
so any info (off list) appreciated..

TIA
Regards
	Strange John	john.strang@bbc.co.uk(W. London)
1994 LSE
1976 SWB SIII
1998 Speed III

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From: "Tim Burt" <tim@muddyweb.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:58:23 -0000
Subject: Lost Rovers 

I have added a new page to the muddyweb :  'Lost Rovers'

This page has been set up to help anyone who wants to trace a Land Rover, or
owns a vehicle and would like to share it's history. The page was prompted
by my interest in a Series 2 SWB that my father used to own.

If you have any information about any of the vehicles shown, or would like
to post a message or information please send an e-mail to :
Lost-Rovers@muddyweb.co.uk with full details. I can accept pictures in most
formats, just attach it to your e-mail message.

The page can be found at www.muddyweb.co.uk   follow the 'Lost Rovers' link
to see what it's all about.

Cheers,

Tim Burt
www.muddyweb.co.uk

P.S. - To anyone who has been waiting for an advert on the parts exchange
for the past week - sorry for the delay I have had a few problems.

All ads are now up to date.

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From: "Tim Burt" <tim@muddyweb.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 17:20:32 -0000
Subject: TEST - Please Ignore

Sorry to use the list, but I am just setting up a new muddy mail server and
I am having some odd problems.

Cheers,

Tim Burt
www.muddyweb.co.uk

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From: Peter Mains <peter@easyrecall.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 19:01:34 +0000
Subject: Differential Swap

I own a series 3 Lightweight with military diffs (5.1?). I wish to
change these to standard Series 3 diffs (4.7).
Would this mean an increase in speed and greater fuel economy (please
say yes!)?

Would the speedo read incorrectly?

I've been advised against changing to Range Rover Diffs because of the
increased need to change gears on the slightest incline, as the 2.25
petrol engine might be underpowered. Does this seem sensible?

Thanks in anticipation.

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From: Paul Williamson <Hartshay@hartshay.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 19:34:02 +0000
Subject: Tyres for S3

It had to come to it but I really do have to get some new tyres for my
S3.  The front ones are OK but the back ones are only just in the groove
from a legal point of view and a total deadloss off-road. In any case
they are presently road bias types and I need to get around some tracks
and land that is a tad sticky at times.

I wonder what tyres, make size type list members would, as a result of
their experience suggest for my vehicle (A S3 diesel, SWB with (capstan
and heavy home-made bullbar).  Usage will be 90% on road but when off
the tarmac the tracks/fields I I traverse be steep, and muddy.

Is it wise to buy the two worst ones now or is it better to get a set of
4 (or 5 ) immediately.

I have read up the ads but remain bemused as to the best purchase...
Paul Williamson

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From: Peter Mains <peter@easyrecall.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 20:07:08 +0000
Subject: Lightweight Diffs

My apologies if I am repeating a FAQ.

I own a series 3 Lightweight with military diffs (5.1?). I wish to
change these to standard Series 3 diffs (4.7).
Would this mean an increase in speed and greater fuel economy (please
say yes!)?

Would the speedo read incorrectly?

I've been advised against changing to Range Rover Diffs because of the
increased need to change gears on the slightest incline, as the 2.25
petrol engine might be underpowered. Does this seem sensible?

Can anyone foresee other difficulties (other than cost)?

Thanks in anticipation.
-- 
Peter Mains

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From: "Tom Murkin" <tom@riverside-repairs.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 22:57:04 -0000
Subject: Re: re-ble poly-bushes

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From: "Tom Murkin" <tom@riverside-repairs.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 22:58:12 -0000
Subject: Re: Re Freewheel hubs

>Just a general question about free wheeling hubs. Do people really find
them
>of any use? I had them on my 88" S1 and never really noticed a great deal
of
>fuel consumption improvement (about 10% isn't it - or 1.5mpg) and the fact

I don't notice any difference in fuel consumption, but do notice a
difference in vibration and kickback through the steering (yes it is in
two-wheel drive!).  It also seems slightly quieter and gives better top
speed - 70mph compared to 65mph with hubs engaged.  Maybe that is why I
don't notice a reduction in fuel consumption :-)

Tom
SIII 2.5D

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From: AVAC11@aol.com
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 18:06:08 EST
Subject: Re: re-ble poly-bushes

In a message dated 12/03/99 23:02:34 GMT Normalzeit, tom@riverside-
repairs.freeserve.co.uk writes:

>  >I have been thinking about making a 4 ton press from some solid Angle Iron
>  >and a 4 ton  hydraulic Car (bottle type) jack.

Nothing wrong with the idea, however, keep in mind that the construction must
be capable of holding four or better five as you wont stop at four won't you
;-)) tons of pressure, i.e. a few angle irons won't exactly do. The downside
of using the hydraulic cylinder of a jack is that theusually are very short,
ie. the travel of your press is short as well whereas you ideally want long
travel, but better than buying one anyway...

Cheers, Gernot

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From: Matt and Theresa Zavakos <mzavakos@earthnet.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 19:29:39 -0700
Subject: Michelin XCL's for 1997 Discovery

Hello All,
    I am e-mailing from Boulder Colorado in the US.  I am looking for
Michelin XCL's to fit my 1997 Discovery.  I have added the OME
suspension and feel I could fit 245/75R16's without any fender well
rub.  Unfortunantly the only size I can find the XCL's in in the US is
750x16 (31.5") and they are too tall.  Does anyone have any information
on where I might be able to order the appropriate size tires?  Thank you
for any information.
    Matt Zavakos
    mzavakos@earthnet.com

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From: Bill Caloccia <caloccia@senie.com>
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 02:09:24 -0500
Subject: Re: 2.5LTurbo Diesel

Well, Turners used to have a good reputation over on this side of the
pond, but when one 2.25L petrol went paws up this summer, with 2000 miles
and a bent rod, and they didn't stand behind the product (luckily the
local distributor made good on it and and supplied another).

Following that indicent, our opinion of them as a vendor dropped somewhat.

I've already sought out a local machine shop to re-work my 2.25L motor.
I've received recommendations from three different mechanics for them, and
the labor is about a third of what a long block from an imported 'name'
rebuilder is going for here (US$3000.) The shop will give it
a 1 year/12,000 mile warrenty.

    Cheers,
          Bill Caloccia			wpc@Caloccia.Net

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From: Bill Caloccia <caloccia@senie.com>
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 02:29:20 -0500
Subject: major's munching....

Hi Geoff,

	If you put your message ABOVE the message which is being forwarded,
you'll be ok... the major's rule of thumb is that the header "----- Origin-
al Message----"  is the end of the 'real' content of the message... and
anything below that is 'binned'.

	Hope that is of some assistance.

	Also, a message cannot be forwarded back to the list more than 
once - after the first time, a line is added to it which says "NO MAIL
LOOPS:  DELETE THIS and following lines to forward.", and if you don't
delete it and the list cruft at the bottom of the fowarded message, the
list will think it is a looping message...and 'bin' it.

    Cheers,
          Bill Caloccia			wpc@Caloccia.Net
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From: "Tim Burt" <tim@muddyweb.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 07:42:01 -0000
Subject: Fw: Help

Hi Guys,

I got this message from Loz but nothing springs to mind.  Could it be
something to do with which accounts are subscribed ?   I seem to remember a
change just recently.

Any ideas.....  please pass them on.

Cheers,

Tim Burt
www.muddyweb.co.uk

I'm having problems with the uk-lro list and was wondering if you could
suggest how I sort it out.

I receive messages from the list without diffculties, but none of my
postings ever appear. I tried contacting Frank, a I know he's on Freeserve,
but his computer's up the kybosh.

I tried contacting the Major, but no reply....

Any ideas...

I kinda miss winding everybody up!

Loz

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