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From: Orlando_Scott-Cowley@watsonwyatt.co.uk
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 08:52:27 +0000
Subject: Swivel Grease.

Morning folks...

Had an interesting w/e not only has my Hard drive been mashed, but also my 
shocks... time for some De-Carbons me thinks.

Anyone got the part number for that 'one shot' (Disco) swivel grease sachet?

VMTIA.
Orlando.
93, Lop-sided Disco.

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From: Anthony Cornell-Hewlett <Tony.Cornell-Hewlett@Bristol.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 09:28:02 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Re: Billing 99

On Mon, 15 Mar 1999, Eric Leuzinger wrote:

> Just got my confirmation for Billing 99!!
> I don't really want to be camping with that scruffy Series 3 lot! I mean the
> Series 1s and Series 2s are the aristocracy of Land Rovers...not like the
> nouveau riche of RR and Disco....and boy racer Freebies.
> Loz

If you can't find a pitch you can squeeze in with us pre 1988 90's
and 110 owners to demonstrate the march of progress from leaf sprung to
coil.

regards

Tony C-H

1987 V8 county 90

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From: Mick Forster <cmtmgf@mail.soc.staffs.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 09:40:08 +0000
Subject: Re: thirsty, Welcome back!

Frank Elson wrote:
> Hi gang,
> I'm back in the virtual pub and am I thirsty.
> I do not EVER want to hear/read the word  "Computer" again but I need to
> read about LRs on the list.
> In the past fortnight I've realised that I'm a Land Rover junkie. Just
> owning and driving one isn't enough, I need to be fed regular emails about

Hi Frank, its good to read your dulcet verbs again! While yer at the bar
mine's a Newky, er Newcy er oh sod!, Newcastle Brown ta!.
I presume you want to stay on the back page then? Must admit I prefer
your column there, its saves plowing through all the go-faster ads to
find a good read. We could do a mail-bomb job on the editor, entirely
off our bat of course..

Mick Forster
1972 109" Series III Safari 2.25 petrol 
1963 88" Series IIa 2.25 petrol
http://gawain.soc.staffs.ac.uk/~mick/landpics.html

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 09:57:30 +0000
Subject: Re: thirsty

that#s a good one Graham. Ain't no such thing as an Orange Land Rover....
>surely not......
Well actually Frank,it was pink......

Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: "Iain Tennant" <i.r.tennant@dundee.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:03:11 GMT
Subject: Re: Billing 99

> I don't really want to be camping with that scruffy Series 3 lot! I mean the
> Series 1s and Series 2s are the aristocracy of Land Rovers...

And we all know what can happen to aristocrats!  It's easy of course 
to keep your head by blending in (grubby overalls to match the 
exposed bits) but don't lie underneath too long as the SI/II owner 
will usually stand out as the dirtiest!

> nouveau riche of RR and Disco....and boy racer Freebies.
> Series 1s and Series 2s are the aristocracy of Land Rovers...
90/110 owners are obviously the poor (and of course warm) relations.

Regards,

Iain

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From: Mick Forster <cmtmgf@mail.soc.staffs.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:04:16 +0000
Subject: Re: Billing 99

Eric Leuzinger wrote:
> Just got my confirmation for Billing 99!!
> I applied through Series II club,
> I don't really want to be camping with that scruffy Series 3 lot! I mean the
> Series 1s and Series 2s are the aristocracy of Land Rovers...not like the
> nouveau riche of RR and Disco....and boy racer Freebies.

Now look here, my lad, the Series III's were the last of the best, still
with proper suspension and a real windscreen. But with some attempt at
modernising with a dashbord you can balance a whisky tumbler on and
instruments you can see in front of you.
As for scruffy, well, is Fred Dibnah scruffy? or Wesley? It's part of
the charm. Honest. I have been known to travel in the Series III while
wearing a suit, but that was a rare occasion. 
As for RR and Disco's, I have been told off for wearing a wax jacket in
a RR!! 

Should be at Billing on the Sunday, hopefully, this year with the
Safari.

Mick Forster
1972 109" Series III Safari 2.25 petrol 
1963 88" Series IIa 2.25 petrol
http://gawain.soc.staffs.ac.uk/~mick/landpics.html

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From: "Dave White" <davew@landie.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:24:02 +0000
Subject: Re: Billing 99

> I applied through Series II club, but form from LRO makes no mention of
> this...just states that there is no specific pitch number...the whole idea
> was that the club would all be pitched next to each other....or was I
> mistaken?

I don't have any connection with the club... but as one of the people who
helps site the caravans - If your club want an area, they should book it
through Billing or LRO. That way they can mark off an area and marshal it
themselves. This is what the Range rover Register do every year, also I have
heard that the Series III club have done the same this year. It may have
been your club though - I always get the two mixed up - they look so similar
:-)

If you have booked through LRO in the usual way then you will be sited in
the next free pitch when you arrive or you can try one of the "free for all"
areas. Anyone wanting to be in a group is usually advised to do the latter
when they arrive at the LRO caravan reception.

If your club has an allocated area you still book through LRO, when you
arrive at the caravan reception they will be able to direct you to the
allocated field. Note that the LRO caravan reception is NOT at the gate, the
Billing staff will not have a clue what you're talking about if you ask for
the "Series II area".

> I don't really want to be camping with that scruffy Series 3 lot! I mean the
> Series 1s and Series 2s are the aristocracy of Land Rovers...not like the
> nouveau riche of RR and Disco....and boy racer Freebies.

Please make your feelings known to caravan reception when you arrive and
we'll make sure you get a suitable pitch. Perhaps in the centre of the Range
Rover Register area ??? Perhaps the RRR people would object to having a
scruffy leaf sprung relic of a bygone age in the middle of their site :-)

Who knows, a weekend surrounded by V8 coil sprung, refined motors might turn
you away from the dark side... :-)

Questions you should NOT ask at caravan reception... (these are genuine)

I want a nice quiet spot, somewhere away from all these Jeeps...

I'm looking for my mate, he's in a Land Rover... it's green. Do you know
where he's camping ?

PLEASE can you tell me where the exit is ??? This is my fourth time round
and I can't find it.

Dave White <davew@landie.demon.co.uk>
'72 SIII  V8 auto, Range Rover Chassis
'89 Range Rover
'80 Range Rover (For Sale...)
'98 Freelander
Yorkshire Rover Owners Club
<http://www.landie.demon.co.uk/>

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From: "Tim Burt" <tim@muddyweb.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:22:24 -0000
Subject: LHD Conversions

Just something I was musing over at the weekend......

I you convert a RHD Series 3 to LHD, how do the steering linkages work. ?

I am assuming that the axle and chassis are the same on a LHD vehicle and
hence the steering relay is still on the offside.

Anyone know ?

Cheers,

Tim Burt
www.muddyweb.co.uk

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From: d.p.round@bangor.ac.uk
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:23:05 GMT
Subject: Re: Differential Swap

> I own a series 3 Lightweight with military diffs (5.1?). I wish to
> change these to standard Series 3 diffs (4.7).

All SIIIs were fitted with 4.7 diffs unless you have something really
unusual. SIII LWB 1ton LRs were fitted with a low ratio transfer box
IIRC. You can fit 4.3 diffs from some old rover cars and 3.5 diff from
Range Rovers and 90/110s. Fitting higher 3.5 diffs will make it more
difficult to maintain high speeds when towing heavy loads and will
raise low range. I chose not to fit 3.5 diffs because I really did
not want to lose low first.

Another option is a SIII overdrive. I don't know if they are still being
produced. They have a reputation for being fagile so need proper 
maintenance and take care if you look at second-hand ones.

Finally, and this is the route I chose, you could go for a high ratio
transfer box. They are made by Ian Ascroft 
(http://www.autoconv.com/index.html). Their high ratio transfer box
provides a strong, reliable increase in high range but low range is
unchanged.

> Would this mean an increase in speed and greater fuel economy (please
> say yes!)?

Top speed will not change much, it may fall slightly, but the LR will
be much quieter at crusing speeds. I found that I tended to drive
faster (50-60 mph) and so fuel consumption did not improve...

> Would the speedo read incorrectly?
> say yes!)?

Not if you fit an overdrive or a high ratio transfer box. If you fit 
oversize tyres or 3.5 diffs, however, it would read low.

> I've been advised against changing to Range Rover Diffs because of the
> increased need to change gears on the slightest incline, as the 2.25
> petrol engine might be underpowered. Does this seem sensible?

I ran my lightweight with a high ratio transfer box and 750-16s. With the
2.25 it wasn't exactly overpowered but it was fine. The stock LR is
overgeared because it was designed to be able to tow a stock trailer
all day. I found that when towing with the high ratio box I needed 
to use third a fair bit, but since third was nearly as high as the
original top it was hardly a disadvantage.

If that has raised any more questions please feel free to ask.

David

******        David Round - EMail  round@bangor.ac.uk             ******
*****These are my own views, I represent nobody (Well maybe myself)*****
***********I guarantee nothing - Particularly the spelling**************

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From: Mick Forster <cmtmgf@mail.soc.staffs.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:35:16 +0000
Subject: Re: Billing 99

Talking of Billing .........
On the priority booking form on page 55 of LROI April at the bottom of
the form it says "No all-male parties", what does this mean? Is it "no
groups of young enthusiastic lads wanting to talk about Landys for a
camping weekend" or "no gatherings of e-mailing drunken slobs having a
good time in the beer tent" type party.
Is it ok if a female drunken slob is included? 

Mick Forster
1972 109" Series III Safari 2.25 petrol 
1963 88" Series IIa 2.25 petrol
http://gawain.soc.staffs.ac.uk/~mick/landpics.html

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From: "Saunders.Richard" <Richard.Saunders@haltoncollege.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:54:55 -0000
Subject: Billing etc

From: "Eric Leuzinger" <eric@solihull64.freeserve.co.uk>

Subject: Billing 99

I don't really want to be camping with that scruffy Series 3 lot! I mean the

Series 1s and Series 2s are the aristocracy of Land Rovers...not like the

nouveau riche of RR and Disco....and boy racer Freebies.

Loz

 

 

I Resemble that remark...

Water pistols at dawn at Billing you swine...

Frank will have a beer gun or was that gut... no thats me. on with the
plot...

How is my motor going to fit into your list RR motor and supenders S11 body
s111 wings 90 BH and Roof.

I suppose that I am just all of them...

Look forward for more....

Richard 

 

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From: Paul Lonsdale <Lonsdale@compuserve.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 06:07:34 -0500
Subject: Re: Billing 99

Eric,

<< I don't really want to be camping with that scruffy Series 3 lot! >>

 At least most of the Series IIIs pay road tax, unlike you cheap SII
owners...  (VBG)
 
 Just jealous really
 
Paul

Ex- H.M. Coastguard SIII SWB
"Dougal Mc Landie"
B895 OJT (1984)
(Navy Blue with a Yellow Roof)

 

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From: Andrew Baker <Andrew_Baker@mitel.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:42:50 -0000
Subject: RE: free-wheel hubs.

Jason writes:
>If they have a red/black center they're AVM's which
>I've found are better made and much more abuse resistant. 

That's the ones.

When I took the end cap off, oil ran out, well out of one side anyway
the other was empty. My question  is the same as Bruce's, where did the
oil come from and how do I put it back?

And Mark what did you do about your bent spring, one of mine is broken
but it seems to work OK.

Andrew B

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:33:55 +0000
Subject: Re: Billing 99

At least most of the Series IIIs pay road tax, unlike you cheap SII
>owners...  (VBG)

Ah,but we have to brave the filthy looks when we go to renew our
tax disc,and dont hand over any money.Its a dirty job,but someones
got to do it:-)

Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:37:24 +0000
Subject: Re:Reference unleaded additive

>I can hear you all yawning already!

Not at all.I'd be interested too.Even if I *do* drive an oily wadder.

Mike Rooth

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From: "Nicholas John Roe" <N.Roe@plymouth.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 12:30:11 GMT
Subject: Re: Fw: Help

it is my understanding that you can only post from accounts which are 
subscribed.  Is he trying to post from a different account to the one 
he recieves from?  

Nick Roe

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From: Andy Gardiner <101_nut@shedcity.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:29:29 +0000
Subject: re: polybushes

In message <bulk.20506.19990313000602@Land-Rover.Team.Net>, owner-uk-
lro-digest@playground.sun.com writes
>>  >I have been thinking about making a 4 ton press from some solid Angle Iron
>>  >and a 4 ton  hydraulic Car (bottle type) jack.
>Nothing wrong with the idea, however, keep in mind that the construction must
>be capable of holding four or better five as you wont stop at four won't you
>;-)) tons of pressure, i.e. a few angle irons won't exactly do. The downside
>of using the hydraulic cylinder of a jack is that theusually are very short,
>ie. the travel of your press is short as well whereas you ideally want long
>travel, but better than buying one anyway...

I'll reiterate that. Design it how you think then over-engineer by a
factor of two! The short travel is a bit of a pain but not that bad as
long as you have a couple of spacer blocks close to hand.
-- 
Andy Gardiner
BLRC Editor
Lit me tell yew tha' orl vews, ign'rent o' th' fax an' tu'al lud
a' squit tha' thay moit be, are me own unless oi sed atherwoise.

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From: Andy Gardiner <101_nut@shedcity.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:24:11 +0000
Subject: Re: The UK/IERE Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

In message <bulk.20506.19990313000602@Land-Rover.Team.Net>, owner-uk-
lro-digest@playground.sun.com writes
>I would be interested in anything you have on this.
>I may also be able to give some info on this, as I am currently working on
>the team that is responsible for developing a British standard method, to
>check the levels of additives in the new leaded replacement fuel.
>I don't want to bore list members, but if your interested I can certainly
>expand on what's happening at the moment in the UK with regards to lead
>replacement fuel.

I would be more than interested to hear about this before it's landed on
us - as would my Club members ... <notebook at the ready ...>.
-- 
Andy Gardiner
BLRC Editor
Lit me tell yew tha' orl vews, ign'rent o' th' fax an' tu'al lud
a' squit tha' thay moit be, are me own unless oi sed atherwoise.

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From: "Baker, Stuart J" <bakersj@bp.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 16:58:07 -0000
Subject: Re:Reference unleaded additive

The BSI British Standards are currently deciding what the UK spec should be
on lead replacement fuels for next year (they tell retailers what specs must
be met e.g. for leaded fuel there must be at least x amount of lead).
At the moment in the UK there are 3 runners to replace lead - Potassium,
Phosphorous and Manganese.
BSI have 4 options at the moment.
1)  To allow all three to be offered and clearly identify which is which at
the pump.
2)  To assume all fuel is Potassium based, and identify the other two at the
pump.
3)  To only allow the Potassium additive.
4)  Not to have a BSI standard for lead replacement fuel and get people to
put it in themselves after filling up.

I think it likely that option 3 will be they way forward for the following
reasons.  Phosphorous is not as efficient in stopping valve seat recession
as Potassium.  Manganese is considered unfriendly to the environment
although it does increase octane rating, and it seems stupid to offer the
public 3 different options for lead replacement.
Potassium has been extensively tested for years now and does stop valve seat
recession, although I hear it does not have as good a memory effect as lead
(some people run on unleaded then fill up with leaded every 4th tank as it
has good memory effect).

Strange John said "also if you have anything on octane boosters I'd be
interested.."
Not sure what your after hear but there are several chemicals used in the
industry to boost Octane.  One of the cheapest ways is to add lead!, but
that's soon to be out the door.  For unleaded fuel the most commonly used is
a compound called MTBE.  Gasoline as it comes out of the refinery has an
octane rating of 60-75 and is relatively cheap, this is blended with MTBE
which has a rating of 118 and is expensive.  It depends on the octane rating
of the neat gasoline as to what octane booster is added.

Bottom line on lead replacement fuel is, yes it will be available next year.
I don't think it will be as good as lead (in terms of engine, not
environment) but it will be the next best thing.

Stuart
1961 SII Big and Yella

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From: "Baker, Stuart J" <bakersj@bp.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 17:01:36 -0000
Subject: SII wing mirrors

Can anyone on the list tell me if and where you can buy wing mirrors that
will mount on the door hinge/bulk head as opposed to the front wings?  There
a bit to far away for my short arms!!

Ta

Stuart
1961 SII Big and Yella

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From: Peter Barton <pbarton@dial.pipex.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:04:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: SII wing mirrors

>Can anyone on the list tell me if and where you can buy wing mirrors that
>will mount on the door hinge/bulk head as opposed to the front wings?  There
>a bit to far away for my short arms!!
>Ta
>Stuart
>1961 SII Big and Yella

[spamkill: admin@ input: %s]	           Peter Barton            e-mail:  
admin@canford.com

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From: "Rich" <Rich_from_bath@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 19:37:11 -0000
Subject: RE: SII wing mirrors

> Use the Series 3 door mounted arms and mirrors, but you will have to make
> up a mounting plate from aluminium or the such like.

It is easier to get a pair of SIII top hinges - then the mirrors just bolt
on. I used to have a pair, but I lost them <g>

Cheers
Rich

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From: "Peter BRADLEY" <pbrad@dial.pipex.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 22:00:01 -0000
Subject: Re: Michelin XCL's for 1997 Discovery

pbrad@dial.pipex.com            http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/pbrad/ibex.htm

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From: Gunnar Stolpe <g.stolpe@tu-bs.de>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 23:12:07 +0100
Subject: Re: LHD Conversions

> I am assuming that the axle and chassis are the same on a LHD vehicle and
> hence the steering relay is still on the offside.

No, on my LHD 88 itīs on the LH side (as it is on all LHDs over here.)
The original chassis had only a hole for the steering relay on the
LH side, the replacement I got has holes on both sides, so suitable
for LHD or RHD.

Do I get it right that
  nearside = where driver sits
  offside = where passenger sits

==> so near/offside on different sides on LHD/RHD vehicles ???

Gunnar

Gunnar Stolpe                  LR  SIII '88 SW 2 1/4 Petrol (1977)
g.stolpe@tu-bs.de              ***        WL-GS 219            ***

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 20:52:40 -0000
Subject: Re: Billing 99

>>>>with that scruffy Series 3 lot! I mean the
Series 1s and Series 2s are the aristocracy of Land Rovers...not like the
nouveau riche of RR and Disco....and boy racer Freebies.<<<<

you're back, then, I notice Loz.........

good job you left 110s out of yr rant, or are you just scared of us real
he-men wot drive them ?

"110s eat Ser 2s for breakfast"

Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: andy Smith <andy@bobstar.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 22:34:43 +0000
Subject: Re: SII wing mirrors

In message <bulk.25537.19990315090534@Land-Rover.Team.Net>, Baker,
Stuart J <bakersj@bp.com> writes
>Can anyone on the list tell me if and where you can buy wing mirrors that
>will mount on the door hinge/bulk head as opposed to the front wings?  There
>a bit to far away for my short arms!!

Stuart,
       Replace the top hinges on the front doors with ser3 or 90 type
hinges and fit 90/110 mirrors to the hinges. 

Andy Smith
1965 ser2a V8 swb road/ccvt 1971 ser2a 2.25p swb road
Tamworth Staffs    ICQ 30236512
Founder of #uk_rover IRC chat channel on DAL.NET
For more information please visit  http://www.bobstar.demon.co.uk/index.html

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From: "David Price" <dave@riverwood.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 22:45:54 -0000
Subject: Re: SII wing mirrors

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From: Christopher Striesow <C.Striesow@exeter.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 23:02:17 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)
Subject: new owner??

hi everyone!

I am looking for a cheap to run and reliable everyday 
transport (I am a student...) somehow I have alway like 
LR's... can I have your opinion please whether a LR is a 
suitable car for me, I am thinking of a series II (I would 
like a tax extempt one). what are the running costs? what 
about fuel comsumption, diesel or petrol? what is a good 
place to start in terms of literature? - I beleive the 
haynes manual?

Thanks for your input!

Christopher

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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 23:04:01 -0000
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Does anyone know where I can get service parts from for AVMs. The casing =
on one of mine on the LWt is broken and leaks "like a good'un".

TIA

Clive

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From: "Eric Leuzinger" <eric@solihull64.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 23:11:58 -0000
Subject: Re: Billing 99

In every pub there's always a guy who takes the piss out of
everything....he's usually drunk...but always good for a laugh.

>>>>>with that scruffy Series 3 lot! I mean the
>Series 1s and Series 2s are the aristocracy of Land Rovers...not like the
>nouveau riche of RR and Disco....and boy racer Freebies.<<<<
>you're back, then, I notice Loz.........
>good job you left 110s out of yr rant, or are you just scared of us real
>he-men wot drive them ?

He-men wot drive them......with your coils to keep your delicate backsides
all nice and comfy.......

Leafers for REAL men!

Ho, ho.....

>"110s eat Ser 2s for breakfast"
>Best Cheers
>Frank
>    +--+--+--+
>     I !__|  [_]|_\___
>     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV

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>     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
>     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Eric Leuzinger" <eric@solihull64.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 23:16:55 -0000
Subject: The LRs nearly fixed - who's going to Sodbury?

Spoke to my mate today, about my SII which has been having a new box fitted.
Loads of dosh to repair, but not too bad since its been rattling like
buggery for the last 5 years, so I guess it had to go sometime.

It'll be all fixed before Saturday and the Old Sodbury Sort Out.

Who's going?

Meet up somewhere?

Loz

PS.....I was only joking about Series 3s

Better a Land Rover man...any day!

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From: AVAC11@aol.com
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 18:32:02 EST
Subject: Re: new owner??

>  I am looking for a cheap to run and reliable everyday 
>  transport (I am a student...) somehow I have alway like 
>  LR's... can I have your opinion please whether a LR is a 
>  suitable car for me, I am thinking of a series II (I would 
>  like a tax extempt one). what are the running costs? what 
>  about fuel comsumption, diesel or petrol? what is a good 
>  place to start in terms of literature? - I beleive the 
>  haynes manual?

Forget the haynes manual, called haynes bok of lies, HBL.
If you want a manual, get the factory manual, costs about the same.
Petrol consumption is the bit to worry about, the diesel and petrol use about
the same amount but obviously cost different. Diesel engine 2 1/4 pretty loud.
Petrol nice but not much power, well the diesel as well of course. Providing
you get a sound chassis, bodys are not too bad, watch out for bulkhead rust,
oil leaks (they all leak somewhere...) in short, look at one really close, ask
if in doubt. Parts reasonably cheap.
Reliable, well, depends on how well you look after it.
I only sold my lwb because the chassis was shite and because I have a swb.
LWB's make great camping vehicles as well...Older LR's very cheap to insure as
classic cars.

Cheers, Gernot

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 21:35:41 -0000
Subject: Re: Billing 99

>>>>Is it ok if a female drunken slob is included? <<<
yes, but only if she's six foot tall, blond and wearing a very short skirt.
PS don't tell the beloved 5ft, dark haired, Marjorie, I wrote that.
Best Cheers

Frank
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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 21:38:09 -0000
Subject: Re: Billing etc

>>>I suppose that I am just all of them...<<<

is that like being "one of those" ?
just asking

Best Cheers

Frank
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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 21:42:19 -0000
Subject: Re: Billing 99

>>>>>least most of the Series IIIs pay road tax, unlike you cheap SII
>owners...  (VBG)
Ah,but we have to brave the filthy looks when we go to renew our
tax disc,and dont hand over any money.Its a dirty job,but someones
got to do it:-)<<<<

My son's Ser3 is "hysteric" (sic) and he goes in with a big grin on his
face, waves the tax disk around and smiles happily at the rest of us as he
walks out......
I blame the parents (she blames the one who bought it for him)

Best Cheers

Frank
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From: "Eric Leuzinger" <eric@solihull64.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 00:29:00 -0000
Subject: Re: Billing etc

Dawn water pistols it is......or a pint in the beer tent and a good old
mutual piss-take...first one to fall over loses....?

Loz

>I Resemble that remark...
>Water pistols at dawn at Billing you swine...
>Frank will have a beer gun or was that gut... no thats me. on with the
>plot...
>How is my motor going to fit into your list RR motor and supenders S11 body

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>Look forward for more....
>Richard

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 01:02:23 -0000
Subject: Re: SII wing mirrors

     >>>>  Replace the top hinges on the front doors with ser3 or 90 type
hinges and fit 90/110 mirrors to the hinges. <<<<
whoa there Andy. Are you saying that Ninety hinges will fit a Ser3?
Course they will, silly me.
I think you've just solved my son's problem there.
SPOT here is Ninety mirrors fitted to Ser3 hinges, which means they don;t,
properly at least, and work loose every few miles. You just gave me the
answer you luvvly person you.
I love these lists.....

Best Cheers

Frank
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From: "Geoff Wilkin" <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 07:41:38 -0000
Subject: Re: major's munching....

OH dear... Sorry didnt know about the top and bottom bit...
Just goes to show... always summat to learn!

I will take note, I didnt think it mattered... but it does!...

Thanks V Much for the help...
I shall go and hide in the corner now!

Best Regards
Geoff Wilkin

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From: "Geoff Wilkin" <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 07:47:41 -0000
Subject: Re: Billing etc

I think you will resent that mark!....

If its going to be like this, thie I think I an going to fit a Post mounted
Water pistol on the back of the Lightweight!...

either Stirup pump or motor powered.....

This could get out of hand!...

he he he!....   :-)

Best Regards
Geoff Wilkin

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'73 Lightweight V6 - All in bits

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>I Resemble that remark...

>Water pistols at dawn at Billing you swine...

>Frank will have a beer gun or was that gut... no thats me. on with the
>plot...

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