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From: Dave Ladell <ladell@proasisn.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 08:38:27 +0000
Subject: Franks Tool supplier

I think this is the mail you sent last year Frank.

>>tel/Fax 0161 440 0821 for catalogue

>>Best Cheers

>>Frank

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From: "Iain Tennant" <i.r.tennant@dundee.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 08:42:30 GMT
Subject: Re: Wheelclamps

Mathew wrote:-
> I would like to reiterate that I have no intention to ever get in a
> situation where a wheelclamp would be applied to my vehicle, merely as to

You're moving up here to a civilised country (where clamping's  
illegal)  then?   :-)

Regards,

Iain

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From: nicholas turck <nicholas.turck@tradition.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 09:00:19 +0000
Subject: to greese or not to greese

I am just in the process of stripping down the swivel hubs on my RR
project .

One of the chrome spheres is a little pitted but I am loathed to replace it.
If I use grease would this solve the problem of the poor seal the
pitting causes ?

Update : last night I managed to get the swivel off and I will be replaceing the
oil with greese .
how much greese do I put in, cover the chrome ball thickly ?
Do I greese the CV joint ?

tks   Nick

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From: "Baker, Stuart J" <bakersj@bp.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 09:15:55 -0000
Subject: Re: SIII Diesel front leaf springs

Adrian
I had this exact same problem on my SII.  Mine didn't settle until
everything was fitted.  I thought that with engine/ bulkhead on this should
be the majority of the weight.  I'm not sure how far you are with the
engine, but if you haven't got the rad on then you'll be missing the 17
Litres of coolant/ ? Litres of oil, not to mention a full tank of petrol,
it's easy to under-estimate the weight of that lot!
If yours is anything like mine, it will come right after everything is back
on, and you've moved it back and forth a few times.

Cheers

Stuart
1961 SII Big and Yella

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From: "Peter Dowson" <Peter.Dowson@softwareag.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 09:40:17 -0000
Subject: Re: SIII Diesel front leaf springs

Adrian,

Also, do not tighten up the shackle bolts until you have finished and had a
few minor runs up and down the drive. Everything should settle down and be
level and the bushes will last a few years this way.

Peter Dowson
S1 80"

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From: "Davidge, Anthony" <antony_davidge@merck.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 04:35:22 -0500
Subject: wheel clamps and winches

I think Mathew asked about the largest wheel clamps available - well I've
looked at a catalogue at work which sells such items and I've found out that
there are 3 or 4 different sizes. The good news is that the two smallest and
the largest sizes will not fit (267x75's) but the largest of the mid size
has about 2/3mm spare - so it will just fit. The other bit of good news is
that prices rise steeply each size you go up - so it's unlikely that the
'run of the mill' clamper/pub car park will have all the sizes.

If anyone is really interested I could dig out the sizes etc from the
catalogue and post it to the list individuals???

Off topic but slightly to do with LR's - On the way home the other night I
thought why are winches fitted to the front of vehicles?
If you are stuck in a boggy section it must be better to pull yourself out
onto where you've already driven rather forward to the unknown and if going
down a steep incline you could use the winch and first gear as you go down?
I know if in the front they will be able to get you up a section, but was
thinking for self recovery positioned at the back would be best?
or have I missed something simple?  

There's always one in a pub that rambles (can I say that?) and today it's
me.

Tony
S2a 1970 88''    
1990 90''
And a hand winch I can use for both vehicles front or back

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From: gwinston@cisco.com (Graham Winstone)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 09:47:23 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Re: Those blue pole thingies

Just came across this.  Should answer most of those questions
about those blue poles that were mentioned a while back:

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/2195/speedtrap_bible.html

- Graham

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From: Mick Forster <cmtmgf@mail.soc.staffs.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 09:51:36 +0000
Subject: Re: SIII Diesel front leaf springs

Adrian Redmond wrote:
> My 109" drive chain, suspension and wheels are now all mounted on the
> new galv. chassis.
> Question is - how do I get the springs to flat out so that the shackles
> lean back and the chassis comes a little closer, so that I can fit the
> shocks. (Yes the shocks are the right ones, the brake hoses are too
> short too!)

Had the same problem with my 109", I used a chain over the chassis and a
trolley jack.
See http://gawain.soc.staffs.ac.uk/~mick/LWBrst/wbrs2170b.jpg and
http://gawain.soc.staffs.ac.uk/~mick/LWBrst/lwbrs2170e.jpg
The damper was too short until I squeezed the spring.
The chain was a bit long hence the use of the old cylinder head for
packing, cos I didn't want to cut the chain!

Mick Forster
1972 109" Series III Safari 2.25 petrol 
1963 88" Series IIa 2.25 petrol
http://gawain.soc.staffs.ac.uk/~mick/landpics.html

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From: Andrew Baker <Andrew_Baker@mitel.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 09:56:56 -0000
Subject: RE: Those blue pole thingies

4 of these have sprouted on the A38 between Plymouth and the Avon wick
turning in the last 2 wks.

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From: Andrew Baker <Andrew_Baker@mitel.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 09:59:33 -0000
Subject: One for you Frank

Last night on the way home I saw a 127 painted in what I can only
describe as "fluorescent lime green" and immediately though of you
Frank. Strange how the mind works when I've never even met this mystical
person :-)

Andrew C. Baker
Principle Engineer
Media Group
Mitel Semiconductors
Tel: 01752 693237 E-mail: andrew_baker@mitel.com

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From: "Peter Dowson" <Peter.Dowson@softwareag.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 10:00:50 -0000
Subject: Re: wheel clamps and winches

->Off topic but slightly to do with LR's - On the way home the other night I
->thought why are winches fitted to the front of vehicles?
->If you are stuck in a boggy section it must be better to pull yourself out
->onto where you've already driven rather forward to the unknown and if
going
->down a steep incline you could use the winch and first gear as you go
down?
->I know if in the front they will be able to get you up a section, but was
->thinking for self recovery positioned at the back would be best?
->or have I missed something simple?

I think that this relates to the intended use of winches on vehicles. You
are thinking of a winch as a self recovery aid when you gewt stuck off-road
(I assume that it is unlikely that you would get stuck on-road - even of the
green type). Most winches have been fitted to vehicles for other uses such
as those used by the post office and BT. There requirements will probably
dictate that the best place is the front.

The ideal place must surely be the middle of the car (as in the new Foers
Ibex and, I believe, the 101) when they can be used forwards or backwards.

Peter Dowson
S1 80"

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From: Andy Gardiner <101_nut@shedcity.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 09:21:55 +0000
Subject: Re: The UK/IERE Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

In message <bulk.29380.19990318000730@Land-Rover.Team.Net>, owner-uk-
lro-digest@playground.sun.com writes
>Shortly after building my hybrid I mangled one of the front disk brake stone
>guards on the hybrid and never bothered replacing it. Ever since the pads on
>that side have worn out at almost twice the rate of the other side. I took the
>wheels off today to clean out the stone bearing mud deposited during a BLRC
>fun day on Saturday, and hey the bloody front pads on that side are worn out
>again.
Sunday was the day of 'brakes filled with gravel'. There was more brake
squealing at Beeston than I'd heard in a long time. That goes for my
Rangy as well. It was a good day out though, good weather, a large
turnout (including some wierd Japanese and American things) - and cheap
too!!
<blatant advertise mode OFF>

>Now here is my point, I just stuck a pair of pads in that were taken out of
>the other side last year to keep me mobile. Having bedded them in the brakes
>feel perfectly normal. So why is it that all the rules on pad replacement say
>never re use old pads and never put them back in different locations. 
>How about a second point, I seem to only get about 3500 miles out of a set of
>pads how about you.
I think old pads that are scored up may result in next to no braking
initially on even slightly marked discs. Once they are bedded they'll be
ok but, unless you're lucky, braking could be somewhat perilous for a
while!

-- 
Andy Gardiner
BLRC Editor
Lit me tell yew tha' orl vews, ign'rent o' th' fax an' tu'al lud
a' squit tha' thay moit be, are me own unless oi sed atherwoise.

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 10:07:49 +0000
Subject: Re: Franks Tool supplier

I think this is the mail you sent last year Frank.

try A&R Sheldon of Stockport
tel/Fax 0161 440 0821 for catalogue
Best Cheers
Frank

Thanks Frank&Dave.Worth bearing in mind.All I need is to con the
cash out of 'er indoors.....
Mike Rooth

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From: "T.D.I.Stevenson" <gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 10:09:25 -0000
Subject: Re: Sore Left Foot....

>I have two worries now, firstly, my foot hurst when I drive the LR - I am
>not used to the clutch but it seems awful tight...prior to now it hasn't
>been a problem, but town driving........argh! Is there an adjustment?

Get one of the Defender clutch pedal housings that are spring assisted; as
good as a clutch servo with fewer complicated bits. They cost about 20 quid
and will fit the existing clutch master and line up with the mounting holes
in the bulkhead. You will need new fixing bolts for the housing though,
since the welded on nets on the new bit are metric.

Tom Stevenson
University Marine Biological Station, Millport, Isle of Cumbrae, Scotland
Tel: 01475 530581  Fax: 01475 530601  Email: gbfv08@udcf.gla.ac.uk
Web page: http://www.gla.ac.uk/Acad/Marine/

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From: "Iain Tennant" <i.r.tennant@dundee.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 12:13:20 GMT
Subject: Re: Defender seats

Adrian Wrote:- 
> I must admit that I find the fancy seats on my new Defender much more
> uncomfortable than the Series III seats (new, still intact SIII seats

Nothing wrong with the seats Adrian.  Ergonomic analysis by the 
manufacturers over many years clearly shows the problem is almost  
invariably down to the design of the driver.  :-).    
Personally,  I find the 110 seats fine, even over long distances, 
but swmbo finds they give her back-ache.  She also finds the seats 
in her V**vo comfy but those give *me* a sore back. 
> I know, many of you must be mumbling "Geez, the lucky b*%%er gets a new
> 110 CSW and ALL he does is whinge?

Having broken your piggy bank open you're entitled to the occasional 
whinge!

Regards,

Iain

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From: "Iain Tennant" <i.r.tennant@dundee.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 12:35:50 GMT
Subject: Re: LHD Conversions

In response to:-
>Best stick to Left/Right. <
Frank muttered:-
> no, no, no..... right standing in front looking back, or left standing
> behind looking forward?  or wot??? always throws me into a tizzy, one man's
> right is another man's left......

Oh dear!   In that case, please warn us first if you're ever heading 
north of the border!    I think the primary school welly-labelling 
system may be called for on PKV!   :-)

Regards,

Iain

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From: GMBubb@aol.com
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 07:46:23 EST
Subject: Gaiters - contentious!

Now here IS a contentious issue!

Put them on and any sh1t that gets in behind them stays there and rots your
balls.

Don't put them on and all the sh1t you drive thru gets into the swivel
housings and rots your innards.

My theory is that if your swivels and their seals are in good nick, and there
is oil in the swivel, then gaiters are good. The balls will stay clean and
rust free as they are wiped with EP90 evey time you go round a corner. All the
nasty stuff you drive thru doesn't get at them.

If your balls etc are not in good nick, the gaiters stop stuff getting into
the swivels and also the MoT man can't see what state they're in.

The Army always used to use them, so they can't be that bad an idea. I've
recently put them on the trialer which suffers from rusty balls because it
doesn't get much use, so very little wiping of the balls by the oily seals.
They should keep the weather off while it's parked up.

I have a template for cutting gaiters, could post if anyone wants it. I made
mine from a welder's leather apron from Arco, much cheaper than the LR kit!

Gordon
80,86,RR

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 14:34:58 +0100
Subject: Re: Gaiters - contentious!

Gaiters are the way to go - but just like socks, they need changing
(washing) once in a while.

If you are really keen, then remove, or at least unlace the gaiters
every six months, wash out the crud, let them dry, then impregnate with
vaseline. Polish your balls with light oil, and refit. This way the crud
gets removed periodically, and the leather is kept clean and supple with
vaseline.

There is a popular misconception that just because a Land Rover can go
through/over anything (almost) then it may do so without suffering any
damage. True enough, a Land Rover will tolerate more mistreatment than
anything on or off the road, but the more you mistreat it, the more you
must look after it.

I have heard that the rubber military gaiters are good, though I have
never seen them. I suspect that just like the gearstick and handbrake
collars, they will chafe and wear and suffer the sme fate of the leather
gaiters.

Tempus fucit as they say...

Adrian Redmond

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From: Dave Ladell <ladell@proasisn.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 13:32:11 +0000
Subject: Re: Gaiters 

One of the advantages of leather gaiters is to stop stones and other flying
debris chipping the chrome on the balss and allowing rust to start.

Just my 2p worth.

Dave Ladell  
'75 Lightweight 2.5TD 
nr. Buxton, Derbyshire, UK

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From: michael john arthur <t03mja@abdn.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 18:20:16 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Land rover Discovery Essay

Dear sirs,
	After reading your enthusiastic page on the 
land rover. I wonder if you are just the peaple i have been 
looking for. I am doing an M.S.C in Entreprenurship at 
Aberdeen University and have been set a Question concerning 
certain aspects of a cse study on the 1992 discovery.
1. Acertain the strenghths and weakneses of land-rover 
prior to the discovery launch.
2. Examine target market and Buyer behavior of discovery 
market.

	I have tried The Land Rover marketing deptment and 
both local and national dealers for info. to no avail. I 
wonder if Enthusiasts such as yourselves could point me in 
the right direction. Any help or sugestions would be 
aprechiated. Also the submision date in mon 22nd.
			Cheers
				M.J Arthur
			 

----------------------
michael john arthur
t03mja@abdn.ac.uk

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From: GElam30092@aol.com
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 14:00:35 EST
Subject: Re: Land rover Discovery Essay

In a message dated 3/18/99 11:21:00 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
t03mja@abdn.ac.uk writes:

<< Dear sirs, >>

Is he talking to us or to Frank?  Is there one or more Frank out there?  At
least he showing respect for his elders...   :-)

<< 1. Acertain the strenghths and weakneses of land-rover 
 prior to the discovery launch.
 2. Examine target market and Buyer behavior of discovery 
 market. >>

You'd probably do well to read some of James Taylor's articles that have
appeared in the LRO magazine regarding the Discovery and it's launch.  In
fact, some of the older  LRO's would have lots of the info that you're looking
for.

Cheers,
Gerry Elam
PHX AZ 

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From: Robert Jan van Vliet <rjvvliet@casema.net>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 20:52:39 +0100
Subject: Re: LHD Conversions

Frank Elson wrote

> >>>>Isn't the correct side of the road in case of a LR in the middle?<<<
> in Malta, according to a song I heard some years ago, it's "in the
> shade"......

So it's everywhere then!

Makes sense indeed.

Robert Jan
SIII 109" 2.25 petrol rhd '80

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From: pete.kirkham@minster.cs.york.ac.uk
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 21:15:51 +0000
Subject: Re: SII wing mirrors (real SII door mirrors)

You can actually get modified series 2 hinges that have a horizontal 
projection with a hole will take the mirrors currently fitted on your 
wings.  These are available both new or second-hand from PA Blanchard's,
at least they were last summer when I got mine, and work fine, mean you can 
keep your existing bottom hinges, and have even more projecting edges to 
scare americans.

I would recommend replacing the mirror arms with spring loaded ones if you 
live in a narrow street, as they will stick out more than they did on the 
wings.

Pete.

red 109

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From: pete.kirkham@minster.cs.york.ac.uk
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 21:19:26 +0000
Subject: Re: SII wing mirrors and hinges

Adrian Redmond wrote:
> AFAIK SII and SIII hinges are the same as SIV (D90!) the only difference
> being the rear of the hinge casting. When the defender was designed, the

No, series 2/2a hinges have a brass ball in them, similar to rear safari 
door hinges, so that the can wobble about more.  The design was changed 
to make them flatter and so more pedestrian friendly for the American 
market's regulations; presumably American drivers make a habit of missing 
pedestrians by the fraction of a inch that the difference between the
designs is...

Pete

red 109

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 19:55:01 -0000
Subject: Re: Franks Tool supplier

>>>>try A&R Sheldon of Stockport
>>tel/Fax 0161 440 0821 for catalogue<<<<<
that's the one, AF and Whitworth, people.
wish I was that organised Dave, thanx.

Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+            
     I !__|  [_]|_\___   
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV 
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 20:02:06 -0000
Subject: Re: One for you Frank

>>>>>Strange how the mind works when I've never even met this mystical
person :-)<<<<
not on the way home from the pub were you? wasn't a pink elephant; in the
back of there 127 by any chance ?
mystical? I've been described as a few things, but..........

Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 20:18:08 -0000
Subject: Re: Land rover Discovery Essay

>>>>>><< Dear sirs, >>
Is he talking to us or to Frank?  <<<<<

not tome, they always spell it Cur when they write to me.....
Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+            
     I !__|  [_]|_\___   
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV 
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 19:58:05 -0000
Subject: Re: wheel clamps and winches

>>>>>>>thought why are winches fitted to the front of vehicles?
If you are stuck in a boggy section it must be better to pull yourself out
onto where you've already driven rather forward to the unknown <<<<<

this one is always coming up. IMV the simple answer is that you are correct
but it's easier to fit a winch to the front than the back (although a lot
have put them on the back as well)

The other point is that the whole point of the exercise is to get somewhere,
not go back........
Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Micky" <micky@big101.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 23:35:44 -0000
Subject: Re: wheel clamps and winches

>The ideal place must surely be the middle of the car (as in the new Foers
>Ibex and, I believe, the 101) when they can be used forwards or backwards.

Yup - the winch on the 101 can be used when moving (winching from the
front) - even more useful for self recovery.

Cheers

Micky
101 in bits

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From: "Micky" <micky@big101.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 23:33:38 -0000
Subject: Re: Land rover Discovery Essay

Wow, it's not often I get called a sir by someone who's not in a uniform...

It's good to see students still leaving everything 'til the last minute. I
know I used to. Once wrote an essay the night before the deadline after
several herbal cigarettes. Started off as a comparison of super powers, and
the role Europe had to play. Finished up rambling on about whales.
Unfortunately long since lost the report so I can't remember how I got from
one to the other...

This is no use whatsoever for your research (and distinctly lacking in LR
content), but it was nice getting the slippers and pipe out again...

Cheers

Micky
101 in bits

>Dear sirs,
> After reading your enthusiastic page on the
>land rover. I wonder if you are just the peaple i have been
>looking for. I am doing an M.S.C in Entreprenurship at
>Aberdeen University and have been set a Question concerning
>certain aspects of a cse study on the 1992 discovery.
>1. Acertain the strenghths and weakneses of land-rover
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 20 lines)]
> Cheers
> M.J Arthur

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From: "Geoff Wilkin" <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 23:25:23 -0000
Subject: Re: SII wing mirrors

Yes.... Flying Helmet, Goggles, and a nice wire coathanger straightened out
and sewn into the old school scarf. The scarf then stays in that "Flying"
position (flapping to the rear in mid air) even when stationery at the
traffic lights.... yep a SAD bugger!..
Best Regards
Geoff Wilkin

This note is copyright of Geoff Wilkin and should not be published
elsewhere in whole or part without the strict agreement of the author.

EMail      geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com
Homepage - http://www.btinternet.com/~geoff.wilkin - (Site REVAMPED 18 Sept
'97)
All views expressed are my own and are no-one elses! (or so I am told).

'84 110 CSW - Green & Clean
'73 Lightweight V6 - All in bits

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From: "Geoff Wilkin" <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 23:20:17 -0000
Subject: Re: Wheelclamps

With a Large vehicle, they usually put a chain round the suspension strut.
So... carry enough tools to take off the strut / shock and spring.

I saw a lady with a Metro get here local garage pick it up with a Hi-Ab
lorry.
They charged her 50UKp but the unclamp fee was 75ukp, she was happy just to
beat the clamper!.

I still think the guy whose 18 wheeler had just been clamped was the best,
he just raised the wheel off the ground and drove away!. Telling the clamper
that the clamp would be at their depot... 260 miles away! (it they wanted to
collect it!)

DONT damage the clamp, its their property and they will sue you.
Get it off without damage, thats OK.

ie some nice long 27mm open ended spanners with just the right bends in
them,
I woud dismantle the vehicle before paying if I could!...

Best Regards
Geoff Wilkin

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'84 110 CSW - Green & Clean
'73 Lightweight V6 - All in bits

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From: "Geoff Wilkin" <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 23:36:53 -0000
Subject: Re: Gaiters - contentious!

The problem with rubber gaiters is that if / when they split then they are
an MoT failure point.
The leather ones dont split if vaselined well first.

Any thoughts on the MoT bit?...

Best Regards
Geoff Wilkin

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'84 110 CSW - Green & Clean
'73 Lightweight V6 - All in bits

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From: "Geoff Wilkin" <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 23:21:13 -0000
Subject: Re: Capstan winch

Whats it fitted for 90/110 or 88/109?

Best Regards
Geoff Wilkin

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'73 Lightweight V6 - All in bits

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 23:32:49 -0000
Subject: Re: LHD Conversions

>>>>>it's "in the
> shade"......
So it's everywhere then!<<<<<

in Malta, yes........
Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+            
     I !__|  [_]|_\___   
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV 
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Clive Taylor" <clive@tcns.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 00:21:26 -0000
Subject: Re: One for you Frank

Now Listen, Frank,

My local pub (in darkest Kent), used to have a real elephant drinking (from
its own bucket) at the bar, until it got too big to fit through the front
door. It was an elephant coloured elephant, not a figment of local
imagination.

It certainly wasn't pink.

Clive

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 02:45:58 +0100
Subject: Crewe

When Sir John Betjemen wrote the famous lines "Come friendly bombs and
fall on Slough, it's not fit for humans now..." I think he really meant
Crewe. At least he would have meant Crewe if he'd ever got stuck there
for a month one weekend.

I lived in Crewe in the mid 70's, at a time when the only cosmopolitan
thing about the town culture was the increasing number of chinese and
indian restaurants, which were gradually taking over the role of the
chippy and the greasy spoon, because of the Lords Day Observance Act
rule that english shops, including fish and chip shops, could not open
on Sundays, whereas foreign/immigrant shops in a demonstrable immigrant
community could. All the immigrants in Crewe were (like me) from the
[spamkill: [Mm]erchant input: %s]	 South. Those were the days when it was 
also illegal for merchants to
          http://www.channel6.dk/native

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From: "James G.Wolf" <elvenwood@whro.net>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 21:00:12 -0500
Subject: Registrations

I have been checking the "for sale" advertisements in LROI, LRW, and LRM,
how does one read the various reg's? What would the year be for say, a "B"
reg. vehicle etc. Quite a lot of the personnel and commercial ads don't
have the year only the "___" reg.
Jim Wolf

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From: "Matthew Reeve & Mel Mauger" <blatchwood@btinternet.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 19:33:00 -0000
Subject: Re: Wheelclamps

>> I would like to reiterate that I have no intention to ever get in a
>> situation where a wheelclamp would be applied to my vehicle, merely as to
>You're moving up here to a civilised country (where clamping's
>illegal)  then?   :-)

Actually, with an orange badge on the dashboard, it's illegal for anyone to
clamp it, no matter where I park it, it *was* merely curiosity, hard as this
might be to believe.

Matthew
UK, nr Heathrow
1979 2-dr Range Rover 300Tdi

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From: "Matthew Reeve & Mel Mauger" <blatchwood@btinternet.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 19:41:01 -0000
Subject: Re:winches

>I know if in the front they will be able to get you up a section, but was
>thinking for self recovery positioned at the back would be best?
>or have I missed something simple?
>Tony

The simple answer is a Tirfor hand winch. Not only can you pull in any
direction, including sideways, you can also winch any vehicle in a convoy
with one winch, but most importantly the incentive of the arm power is a
great incentive not to get stuck in the first place......

Matthew
UK, nr Heathrow
1979 2-dr Range Rover 300Tdi

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From: "Matthew Reeve & Mel Mauger" <blatchwood@btinternet.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 19:44:27 -0000
Subject: Re: Sore Left Foot....

>Get one of the Defender clutch pedal housings that are spring assisted; as
>good as a clutch servo with fewer complicated bits.

Can someone do me a favour and send me this page from the parts manual? The
clutch on the rangie is a bit heavy for my (dodgy) knees and I could do with
something to help.

Matthew
UK, nr Heathrow
1979 2-dr Range Rover 300Tdi

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From: "Tim Burt" <tim@muddyweb.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 06:52:10 -0000
Subject: Re: Re:winches

>with one winch, but most importantly the incentive of the arm power is a
>great incentive not to get stuck in the first place......

I'll second that !!

The other point about mounting a winch on the front is that it's easier to
recover some else,  (i.e. the fool you put at the front of the convoy to
'test how deep that water is'), as you don't have to turn around in the lane
and you can see everything clearly without having to stand in the rain and
wind.

It's also (in many cases) easier to self recover with a winch on the front
as you can drive and winch at the same time.   With a rear mounted winch,
you have to reverse and that can be harder, especially if you're on your
own.

Personally I don't like mid-mounted winches much, as I always seem to end up
with it at the wrong end in any particular situation, and then have to roll
around in the mud trying to move it.

If you can afford it, the best answer is to put one on the front, (a nice
8274-50 for example) and one in the rear crossmember.  (something like a
Warn XD)    But you have to be pretty serious about your off-roading to
warrant that.

Enough from me, I've got to get to work !

Cheers,

Tim Burt
www.muddyweb.co.uk

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