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From: Dave Ladell <ladell@proasisn.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 08:11:19 +0000
Subject: Re: Re:Utter madness

>to be most helpful under all circumstances.

In my experience, the fourth emergency service is often the landlord of the
local hostelry!

Cheers,

Dave Ladell  
'75 Lightweight 2.5TD 
nr. Buxton, Derbyshire, UK

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From: "Geoff Wilkin" <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:26:17 -0000
Subject: Re: sob,sob,sob....Daily drive?

Hmmmm Has anyone seen Rolf Harris in a Land Rover ambulance? 

Best Regards
Geoff Wilkin

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'84 110 CSW - Green & Clean
'73 Lightweight V6 - All in bits

> Yeh! and what's up with the lizard...someone call an ambulance!!!

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From: "Geoff Wilkin" <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:37:52 -0000
Subject: Re: Corrosion problems?

Who cares anyway... If you want a nice shiny bright 4x4SUV then buy a
Japmobile. (or a company 110CSW)

I havent washed my 110 for at least 18 months, and the LightWeight for 15
months.  Washing and polishing sounds like hard work... and I dont want to
do any of that!. (Just spray it underneath with waxoyl)

Us Land Rover Drivers Pose just as well in a battered 30 year old S11a, and
dont give a fig about it!.

Third Owner?... Both of mine are on their 7th and 8th owner. (15 and 24 year
Olds - The Landies that is!)

I must admit the only chickens I have in the back are usually deep frozen
from the supermarket!.
I wouldnt mind a couple of 24 year old  birds though!.

The whole "thing" about Land Rovers is they are 1940's technology, and
everything is replaceable. evey panel, nut and bolt right down to the
chassis. If it wear out or gets busted... replace it, with new or second
hand (with exceptions for Brake and Steering parts).

Tongue in cheek......

Best Regards
Geoff Wilkin

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'84 110 CSW - Green & Clean
'73 Lightweight V6 - All in bits

> Land Rovers have a surviving problem. By the time most SUV's have
> depreciated to their third and final owner, and have long since swapped
> theirpristine interior with smoked glass and stereo for
> chickens-on-the-back-seat, Land Rovers are just getting worn in.

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 10:31:32 +0000
Subject: Re: Re:Utter madness

>please, please please junk the AA. Join any organisation you like (and
>despite your good luck so far you should be with someone) but as the AA are
>anti-greenlaning they are the enemy......

Whatever you do,beware of Green Flag.If my daughter's experiences with
them are anything to go by they arent part of the solution,they are part
of the problem.Example: 1 litre Metro wont start in the morning.GF attends,
puts a charge on the battery,starts the car,then tells her the fanbelt is
loose,which is why the battery is flat,says..wait for it...that it needs
three days in the garage (their garage) and that's *if* they can get the
spare parts.With that,he buggered off into the sunrise *leaving the fan
belt loose*!
It would seem that the so-called "advantage" of them using local garages,
means you very much take pot luck.At least the AA and RAC train their own
people.
This BTW wasnt the only example.
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: "Andy Woodward" <azw@aber.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 10:42:08 -0000
Subject: Exhaust paint

What's the best exhaust paint for a rusty but wirebrushed exhaust?

How does Aluminium paint do - I ask cos Al in contact with steel corrodes 
away, so maybe hte paint would act as a sarificial anode, protecting teh 
steel?

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From: lro@benison.freeserve.co.uk (Dave Benison)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 10:50:29 GMT
Subject: Re: Utter madness

On Fri, 26 Mar 1999 10:31:32 +0000, you wrote:

>It would seem that the so-called "advantage" of them using local garages,
>means you very much take pot luck.At least the AA and RAC train their own
>people.

Up here where I live if you call out the AA, RAC, GF or any of the others the 
same truck covered in different logo's arrives.  Where's the AA/RAC training 
advantage there :-)

Dave

Northern Scotland

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From: "Neil Brownlee" <metal_thrasher@offroading.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 11:13:45 -0000
Subject: Re: Re:Utter madness

Mike,

I agree - I used Britannia Rescue, just as bad. I warped the head on my old
J reg Granada on the motorway. Took 2 hours to come and get me, then they
spent an hour trying to fault it - declared NO FAULT FOUND and sent me
packing...2 miles later the temp. gauge was off the scale. I discovered that
she would run100% at any speed under 50...so I took her slowly to a friends
garage...where he swore lots at what damage had been done due to their
mis-diagnosis!

Sods - the lot of them. The AA don;t like it if you tell them what is wrong
and the guy I had deliberately checked EVERYTHING else on our old Pony
before checking what I'd said the fault was. And then he got it ******
wrong! The timing was out - anyone could tell! Ah well, and to top it all,
you all know my Exploder is smashed, well when I rang the RAC, they told me
my cover had expired - very embarassing, as I was in the cop car, and when
that was sorted they levied an extra charge for the vehicles size and the
fact it was 'offroad'! About 3 bloody feet offroad. They had to use
'Special' Equipment - I they winched it off the hedge - nothing the standard
recovery vehicle is'nt fitted with was used?!

Ah well, see you later, I suspect Ford are going to insult me and give me a
Ka to drive, or at best a Focus...I'll never live it down, of course I could
put the Ka in the back of the 109" as a spare!

Neil

SIII 109"
Kit Form Ford Exploder.

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From: Andy Gardiner <101_nut@shedcity.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 11:12:11 +0000
Subject: NFU playing silly buggers ...

In message <bulk.19575.19990326000650@Land-Rover.Team.Net>, owner-uk-
lro-digest@playground.sun.com writes
>>for the D90. Turns out there is no problem, full domestic
>>and work cover for 142 - down 45 from my previous
>>insurer. The only thing is it isn't covered for driving
>>underwater (their words not mine!).
>>Now the problem is the SIII LtWT - they want to charge
>>276!!!
>They have to be joking, they charge that much (nearly) for my expensive
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 10 lines)]
>comfortable car..... P reg! 140 ruffly what the Stage 1 costs and I must
>have a similar post code to you.... HU5
1976 Range Rover - they want in excess of 230 for it ... they won't do
classic car policy 'cause it's not 25 years old. Brokered through a
Lloyds syndicate it's about 160 but I will never get no claims on it and
I'm still limited to 5000miles per year ...

It's more annoying that I've got another vehicle which is fully insured
for the road under my name, which I obviously can't drive whilst I'm in
the Rangy, yet I have to have two complete policies ... seems like a
rip-off to me! (And yes, the bloody tax man takes his cut of both of
them!)
-- 
Andy Gardiner
BLRC Editor
Lit me tell yew tha' orl vews, ign'rent o' th' fax an' tu'al lud
a' squit tha' thay moit be, are me own unless oi sed atherwoise.

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From: Andy Gardiner <101_nut@shedcity.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 11:29:36 +0000
Subject: Frank's famous ...

He's finally made it. Not only does Frank appear in LRO, but he has just
got a passing mention in Breckland LRC magazine (courtesy of Mike
Rogers!). 
I now find he's on the magazine mailing list as well, can I ever get
away from this man ... ? I hope he cuts out the page and pastes it to
the back of the bog door ...:-)

BTW, my girlfriend is still fed up with 'not have your bits' on the back
page of LRO, sad isn't it Frank? :-(
-- 
Andy Gardiner
BLRC Editor
Lit me tell yew tha' orl vews, ign'rent o' th' fax an' tu'al lud
a' squit tha' thay moit be, are me own unless oi sed atherwoise.

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From: Andy Gardiner <101_nut@shedcity.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 11:20:01 +0000
Subject: parking

In message <bulk.19575.19990326000650@Land-Rover.Team.Net>, owner-uk-
lro-digest@playground.sun.com writes
>Multi-stories cause major problems for the Ambulance and 
>fire services due to access problems, but for profit 
>reasons they won't make more room, height wise, for larger 
>vehicles. 
Just heard a 'storey' (sorry) about the multi-storey they've recently
dug (it's basically underground) in Norwich - may with something like
jacked-up hi-lux got in easily enough but couldn't get out again. Had to
resort to letting a lot of air out of the tyres to lower it down ...

I think I'd have charged them for the hassle ... either the clearance is
x feet or it isn't ... 
-- 
Andy Gardiner
BLRC Editor
Lit me tell yew tha' orl vews, ign'rent o' th' fax an' tu'al lud
a' squit tha' thay moit be, are me own unless oi sed atherwoise.

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From: "Geoff Wilkin" <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 11:49:06 -0000
Subject: Re: Re:Utter madness

Hmm Green Flag didnt get a good write up on Watchdog last night.
However the man from GF did do a superb PR job for his company.

I'm (sorry) I am with the AA.
The wife was before we were married, she pays the subs, and wont change.

In that time I have called them 3 times,
1. Wheel came of the 18 month old caravan - 20 min wait, on a bank holidat
Sunday evening - low loaded home, good service.

2. hot spot fellinto the engine on the 2.5 NA D 110 (hence My 200Tdi
engine) -  40 min wait  - Sat lunchtime -Towed home by aa AA Disco  (Full
street cred, ariving home towed by another Land Rover (Disco)

3.Clutch flexi hose rubbed thru and split in Cornwall. Man arrived in 30
mins. Took off the exhaust, and other bits, extracted the pipe, disappeared,
took 40 mins, back with new Lockheed pipe which was heaper than a genuine LR
part. Fitted it and no charge other than the cost of the part. Total time 4
hours in  Trago Mills Car park Cornwall.

I have had good serevice from the AA. I must admit I am not happy about
their Anti Green Lane stand, but the wife pays so I shut up!.
If I paid it would be a different matter.

He (she) who pays the piper calls the tune.

Best Regards
Geoff Wilkin

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'84 110 CSW - Green & Clean
'73 Lightweight V6 - All in bits

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From: "Steve Mace" <steve@solwise.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 10:56:48 -0000
Subject: Re: Exhaust paint

Standard Al paint just burns/corrodes off after about a 
week!

On 26 Mar 99, at 10:42, Andy Woodward wrote:

> How does Aluminium paint do - I ask cos Al in contact with steel corrodes 
> away, so maybe hte paint would act as a sarificial anode, protecting teh 
> steel?

Name: Dr Steve Mace
E-mail: steve@solwise.co.uk
www: http://www.solwise.co.uk
Tel: +44 1482 621888
Fax: +44 1482 621877

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 11:58:27 +0000
Subject: Re: Utter madness

Up here where I live if you call out the AA, RAC, GF or any of the others
the same truck covered in different logo's arrives.  Where's the AA/RAC
training advantage there :-)

You know,Dave,there's a TV sitcom in there somwhere....:-)

Mike

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From: MRogers315@aol.com
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 08:27:33 EST
Subject: Re: sob,sob,sob....Daily drive?

>.and only a bleeding lizard in the bidet!

>Is this Genuine Parts or an aftermarket bidet?

Must be a Genuine lizard, as I have never hears of an aftermarket one.

Mike Rogers

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From: "Gareth Evans" <g.d.evans@talk21.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:56:57 -0000
Subject: Reliability

Bloody hell...!

AA,RAC,GF...what...!

I thought the only thing going for my 109 was reliability.
Every time I use it I'm 100% sure of getting home. (Well.....Yes I am
.....not always....most of the time).

Does everyone break down allot?

With all this talk of Recovery services, the next time I hear a serious
mechanical noise emanating from anywhere my arsehole's going to be
twitching. If thats the case I'm staying as far away from it as possible.

Even the poor buggers with nervous ticks can't twitch that much.

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From: Linda Brooks <lbrooks@stc.net>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:10:52 -0500
Subject: Pump&stuff

Do the right thing. Sell the troughs and the horses and buy a fire
engine with the money.

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From: "Dave White" <dave@bang.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 08:23:41 -0000
Subject: Re: sob,sob,sob....Daily drive?

>Anyone who drives a 109 daily is a masochist, especially if its a diesel.
>If he has a choice he's a sado-masochist.

Yes but if it is a V8 it is sheer pleasure......

Dave White
'82 V8 Stage 1 SW (Light Green)
'69 2.6 LWB 2A (in bits)

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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:16:37 -0000
Subject: RE: Re:Utter madness

And they get to scene much quicker, by at least an hour in my uncontrolled
experiment.
A little hose had blown on my 110, dumping all the water on the M6, I pulled
onto he hard shoulder behind a Transit van, coincidentally with a similar
problem.  I used the emergency phone to contact the RAC, and had tow explain
my card was on the kitchen table.  No problem, was told they would have a
man with a van there in an hour.  Passed the time of day with the occupants
of the Tranny, they had phoned the AA the best part of an hour before I
arrived.  About half an hour later the RAC van arrived, looked at the
problem and said "That pipe's burst - I've got the thing for it in the
back".  Ten minutes later he is sorting my paper work out when the Tranny
driver bangs on the door saying something like "AA can't come for another
hour, and are asking if you can fix it?".  Not too sure what the RAC man
said to the AA call centre, but we both backed up the hard shoulder and left
in a cloud of diesel exhaust, my 110 leaving the RAC Tranny a fair distance
behind until I reached cruise velocity...

Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110

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From: "Rob Smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:32:32 -0000
Subject: RE: Corrosion problems?

I'm sure Frank can arrange a couple of 16 year old birds, but they may not
be mature enough for your tastes ;-)

Rob Smith
Mine's the blue 110

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 00:11:03 -0000
Subject: Re: fire engine

nope, that's "he who dies with the MOST toys wins"
Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

From: Eric Leuzinger <eric@solihull64.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: 25 March 1999 7:59pm
Subject: Re: fire engine

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 23:43:54 -0000
Subject: Re: fire engine

ageism right?
so how much past 40 do you have to be to NOT fancy a fire engine?
I can't remember that far back (ie, did I want a fire engine when I was 40)
But having been to the Commercial Motor Show this week I know what I do
want... a Volvo Tractor with wood grain dashboard, sixteen preselector
gears, bed in the back, fourteen point variable seat, dribble dribble
Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 23:50:30 -0000
Subject: Re: sob,sob,sob....Daily drive?

mate of mine been sharing drives to work, along M66, M60 and M61 (who said
bingo?) in his 2,5 N/A diesel Ninety and friend's fastermobile. Friend is
now hunting for a Ninety 'cos he says, in rush hour the journey times vary
by no more than 7 minutes (guess which is the slower - and if he timed it is
he sad or wot?) but the Ninety drive is more fun, more relaxing etc etc.
I do mostly the same run (w/out the M61) and, as I hit the motorway I am
overtaken by hoards of fastermobiles. At the sliproad traffic lights into
town (North Manchester) I am often sitting right alongside many of the
fastermobiles. But I'm relaxed and content and they're all hung up and
nervous........
Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 23:44:54 -0000
Subject: Re: sob,sob,sob....Daily drive?

ignore him Andrew, he's just jealous :-)>
Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Dave White" <dave@bang.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 19:10:49 -0000
Subject: Re: Pump&stuff

>Do the right thing. Sell the troughs and the horses and buy a fire
>engine with the money.

Here here or was that me too, if I had some troughs that is......

Dave White
'82 V8 Stage 1 SW (Light Green)
'69 2.6 LWB 2A (in bits)
Wanting a cheapo fire engine to renovate....

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From: "Dave White" <dave@bang.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 19:08:16 -0000
Subject: Re: Reliability

>Bloody hell...!
>AA,RAC,GF...what...!
>I thought the only thing going for my 109 was reliability.
>Every time I use it I'm 100% sure of getting home. (Well.....Yes I am
>.....not always....most of the time).
>Does everyone break down allot?

I must admit there is usually something wrong with it, it never seems to
pass an mot, but it has never failed to get me home...... (It once failed to
get me somewhere but it wasn't important and I could have got there cos the
oil was not comming out toooo fast.... :-()

Dave White
'82 V8 Stage 1 SW (Light Green)
'69 2.6 LWB 2A (in bits)

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From: "Dave White" <dave@bang.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 19:12:32 -0000
Subject: Re: Utter madness

>Up here where I live if you call out the AA, RAC, GF or any of the others
>the same truck covered in different logo's arrives.  Where's the AA/RAC
>training advantage there :-)

Yeah that happend to me on Barra. (I can't even remember which one I was
with but) the man arrived did em all....

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 00:11:25 -0000
Subject: Re: Auto replies

and here
Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

From: Eric Leuzinger <eric@solihull64.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: 25 March 1999 8:01pm
Subject: Re: Auto replies

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 19:30:13 -0000
Subject: Re: Corrosion problems?

Do you stay awake, Rob, or wot?
They were sixteen a year ago, do the maths.............

Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 19:22:17 -0000
Subject: Re: Frank's famous ...

I may sue :-)>
Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Gareth Evans" <g.d.evans@talk21.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 00:25:42 -0000
Subject: Come on guys

This may come as a shock to some of you...?
I use my Land Rover as it was intended.
This may be boring but bear with me....I'm pissed.
It has to earn it's keep with me.  To be fair, so far it has.
I'm even managing to convince Marie-Anne we must keep it..!
She will never go to South of France (with caravan) in it ever again.....BUT
One day we may not be able to get to the field in her car........! Snow etc.
neddy will starve.
So she puts up with it. BY the way I'm completely mad and in my own opinion
should have been certified years ago. She thinks I'm worse than that..!
Oh sod it..Does anyone want to buy a work horse.
250,000 miles (never raced or rallied).
Only the saddest people own more than one Landrover....I want a fire
engine...6cylinder...drooooool.
500 gallons of water....ecstasy.......1000 psi ( I Hope)..my god the havoc I
could cause.

I'm convinced.......I think..

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From: "Gareth Evans" <g.d.evans@talk21.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 00:29:18 -0000
Subject: Re: fire engine

Frank...An old Fergie would do me...at least I wouldn't have to scat about
looking for a PTO

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From: "Gareth Evans" <g.d.evans@talk21.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 00:33:43 -0000
Subject: I cant take any more.. i want a V8

I WANT A V8...AT ALL COST

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From: "Matthew Reeve & Mel Mauger" <blatchwood@btinternet.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 00:47:31 -0000
Subject: Re: Reliability

>Does everyone break down allot?
>With all this talk of Recovery services, the next time I hear a serious
>mechanical noise emanating from anywhere my arsehole's going to be
>twitching. If thats the case I'm staying as far away from it as possible.

I think it's fairly safe to say that most of us breakdown quite a lot, not
to mention our LR's :-))

Seriously, I'm sure most of us suffer breakdowns, but we generally get the
vehicles going again with a minimum of fuss, ok a lot of fuss, swearing,
skinned knuckles etc, but we do get going. Personally, I've got breakdown
cover for the times when it's raining and I've got white jeans on :-))

The only exception to this was when a throttle cable snapped on the motorway
and (silly me) I didn't have a spare in the glovebox. The guy was there
before I got off the phone convincing the stupid bint on the switchboard
that I knew where I was without getting out and checking a lamppost . It's
amazing how quick the service is when you've tell them you've got a
wheelchair in the boot.

Matthew
UK, nr Heathrow
1979 2-dr Range Rover 300Tdi

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From: AVAC11@aol.com
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 21:23:25 EST
Subject: Re: Reliability

In a message dated 27/03/99 01:42:23 GMT Normalzeit, blatchwood@btinternet.com
writes:

>  >Does everyone break down allot?
>  >With all this talk of Recovery services, the next time I hear a serious
>  >mechanical noise emanating from anywhere my arsehole's going to be
>  >twitching. If thats the case I'm staying as far away from it as possible.
>  I think it's fairly safe to say that most of us breakdown quite a lot, not
>  to mention our LR's :-))

Only break down when I've got no tools with me (sod's law) so I carry always a
toolkit and never break down in return. Last time on of my cars broke down I
had no tools, but the bugger brought me just about in front of the lock up
(petrol pump duff) but wasn't to be convinced to drive into the garage so I
had to pour petrol into the fuel line to fill the bowls up.

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 04:30:56 +0100
Subject: Re: Paint (was =?iso-8859-1?Q?A=A7=A7hole?=)

Not that I'm a reactionary old fart by any means - but of late I have
noticed that this list is being treated by newcomers as if it were a
newsgroup, where 80% of all postings are nothing but a verbal diatribe
at the other contributors.

There is room for difference of opinion on this list - for example -

Many consider TeriAnn a precision fanatic when it comes to engine
details
Many consider me a loony for keeping my chassis cleaner than my bathroom
floor
Many consider Frank a tad funny about colours
And no-one can agree on whether to use oil, grease, goosefat or cowdung
in their swivels.

We usually manage all this disagreement and friendly jibing without
having to resort the words like jerk, a§§hole, idiot or Jeep.

I enjoy free speech, but often wonder at the ease with which people
resort to the lowest common denominator. It's not the language which
gets me, its the ramant disrespect for diverging opinion.

OK, tell me to stop preaching, I'll get back to my 109" (LR intent)

:-)

Adrian Redmond

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From: JPitcher@sperry-sun.com
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 21:32:43 -0600
Subject: AA Vs. The rest (was utter madness)

Frank,

I appreciate the point and I don't agree with the AA's attutude towards
greenlaning (of course!), but the scale of economics dictates that, as I run 3 -
4 vehicles, I only take out 1 recovery policy for all of them. If the RAC or
anyone else for that matter, offered the same cover, rather than one policy for
each vehicle, then I would switch over immediatly. As it is I pay approx. 70
quid for year round recovery, rather than 300+ quid. If you know of anyone else
that can match that, I'll sign up.

Cheers

Jason

1970 Siia
1986 Overfinch Rangie
1989 V*****ll Nova (for sale)
1994 Triumph Sprint

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