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From: Andrew Baker <andrew.baker@gssl.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 08:11:59 -0000
Subject: V8 fiddlings

Well the V8 is back on the road, But not all is well. 

It seems to go really well, I can spin the rear wheels as I pull away and it
seems more responsive to the throttle, although when I rev it hard and take
my foot off, it still takes a long time for the revs to die away and it's
not the cable.

I fixed the leaking rocker covers :-)) But when I got back from the test
drive there was a cloud of smoke coming from under the bonnet!! It appears
to be oil blowing out of the dip-stick and falling on the manifold. The oil
seal does not fit very well so I'd better get a new one.  Putting my hand
over the oil filler there doesn't seem to be much crankcase pressure, so
what's pushing the oil out?

I wish I had looked at a V8 manual before I started, I was really surprised
when I removed the old valley gasket to see the cam shafts and push-rods, I
don't really know what I was expecting, but I never expected that! 

The inside of the engine was covered in a thick black film, I have never
seen the inside of an engine look such a mess, why is it like this? 

I sheared one of the bolts holding the valley gasket down and now I've been
running the vehicle for a day, oil is leaking out the back valley seal (not
the end I fixed). I didn't used any gasket sealer, so if I take it all apart
again and use some sealer 'everywhere' will I need a new gasket, or could I
get away with the old one? What is the lists favourite gasket sealer these
days?

I also had a quick check inside the carbs, when I blew threw the main jet on
one of the carbs, I could swear it was hard at first the got easier, was it
blocked, or was I just cold, tired and fed-up of the wind and rain?

Regards,
Andrew C. Baker

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Email: andrew.baker@gssl.co.uk
> Global Simulation Systems Limited

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From: GMBubb@aol.com
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 03:43:01 EST
Subject: Re: Ugandan electricity

If it's like the bits of Africa I've known, all you need is teeth (to strip 
the wires) and matchsticks (to wedge them in the plug).

Gordon

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From: BurgDM@aol.com
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 04:23:16 EST
Subject: Re: Ironman leaf springs vs. parabolics

In a message dated 28/01/00 19:08:05 GMT Standard Time, 
hiske_remco@hotmail.com writes:

<< Which parabolics do you have on your Landrovers? >>
 The Chris Perfect ones although I believe the Rocky Mountain ones are 
identical but cheaper!

Darren Burgess

Orange Stage 1 V8 CSW
Bronze Green Ser. III 88" 2.25 petrol

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From: BurgDM@aol.com
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 04:23:17 EST
Subject: Re: Ironman leaf springs vs. parabolics

In a message dated 30/01/00 11:47:53 GMT Standard Time, 
eric@solihull64.freeserve.co.uk writes:

<< Any idea of what the total cost of the job was? Including shocks.
  >>

Around £600.00, but this did include all new nuts and bolts, etc.  I believe 
Rocky Mountain springs are cheaper. The shocks I got with mine are Pro Comp 
Explorers which seem very good. I think Rocky Mountain sell another brand, 
but I'm not sure which.

Darren Burgess

Orange Stage 1 V8 CSW
Bronze Green Ser. III 88" 2.25 petrol

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From: "Moses, Mick" <Mick.Moses@ee-plc.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:28:33 -0000
Subject: RE:Welcome Back Adrian / Eddie Evans

Adrian

Welcome back to the list.  It's always sad to see someone leave and drink in
a different virtual pub.   I have enjoyed most of your postings.

I am writing an article for our club mag and would like to use a line you
used recently about meeting Courier 10pt.  Is this OK by you.

Muck.

Tim Burt wrote:-
	My old friend Eddie Evans at LRO is at it again this month.

I've been walking to ASDA from work everyday recently. To try and rid myself
of some of the Christmas/New Year over indulgence.  I spotted LRO with the
rest of the magazines.  There were about 5.  A week later they were all
still there....

Muck Moses
Yorkshire Rover Owners Club
Club Rep to ARC

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From: aworsley ox <Worsley@miebach.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:10:44 -0000
Subject: And on that line

Our clubs (htp://www.bog.oxfree.com) meet is at Bicester (tonight actually,
see web for map)
50% of the bar's occupants are female and like LRs). Sadly they all have
partners.....

Alasdair Worsley

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From: "Rouart, Brian" <BXROUART@ctrl.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:31:57 -0000
Subject: Monaco GP - 4 June 2000

Alan,

Tickets for the weekend can be purchased at the circuit on the
day..................get there early.
It's easier to travel to the principality by Bus or Train than to find
suitable car parking space. Alternatively stay at the Hotel de Paris (if
you've got a couple of grand spare) 

Saturday practise/qualifying + other races - 100FFR

Sunday practise/race - 200FFR

You will be restricted to certain areas on the circuit depending on which
entrance you use. There's no way you can move around the circuit. Keep an
eye out for the Tifosi..............they're bloody mad.
Its well worth the trip.

Brian ROUART

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From: aworsley ox <Worsley@miebach.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:15:52 -0000
Subject: No LR, Vauxhall

Vauxhall are now doing "dual" fuel cars. With gas and petrol tanks and a
monitoring/swap over system for heat and amount in the tank. 6 years they
will be on the scrap heaps and we can retro fit them to the LRs.

Tee Hee.
Not suggesting anything here, just 6 years is the average cars life
expectancy (incl. Crashes)

Alasdair Worsley

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From: aworsley ox <Worsley@miebach.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:20:50 -0000
Subject: 

Is the major ill?
htp://www.land-rover.team.net does not seem to produce anything useful.

Alasdair Worsley

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From: Leigh Ryder <leigh@ryderl.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:30:32 +0000
Subject: Re: Hitting the road

In article <bulk.10024.20000130050312@Land-Rover.Team.Net>, Colin Shaw
<roving@mic.ro> writes
>I have to unsubscribe tomorrow (Mon) for a week as Tuesday morning first
>thing, I start the 5 day journey back to UK (got to visit people on the
>way).  If I can get to a computer in UK I will re-subscribe, otherwise

Have a safe journey.

Leigh Ryder
Ellesmere Port
Cheshire

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From: "Hiske & Remco" <hiske_remco@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 10:35:49 +0100
Subject: Re: Ironman leaf springs vs. parabolics

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From: "Moses, Mick" <Mick.Moses@ee-plc.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 09:44:50 -0000
Subject: Happy New Year, Century, Millennium

I don't know if this will work as it's on a time delay.  Timed to avoid the
Millennium rush, so hopefully this has gone out before the internet crashed
with a back log of good wishes..........

Muck Moses
Yorkshire Rover Owners Club
Club Rep to ARC

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        CCV Spec                    Metallic
 
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From: Peter Dowson <Peter.Dowson@softwareag.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:59:58 -0000
Subject: RE: Happy New Year, Century, Millennium

An a happy new year to you too!

I don't think it worked, Muck ;-)

Peter Dowson

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From: "Moses, Mick" <Mick.Moses@ee-plc.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 10:09:52 -0000
Subject: Where have you all gone?

I've just tried to get the hourly update from
www.land-rover.team.net/UK-2000/hourly.html and been told 
"The requested URL /UK-2000/hourly.html was not found on this server."
Have you all swapped pubs whilst I was away?  How am I to managed without my
fixes of LR mail during the day?
Guess I'm stuck with the daily digest for a while.

Muck Moses
Yorkshire Rover Owners Club
Club Rep to ARC

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          Blue                British Racing Green
        CCV Spec                    Metallic
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From: Neill Hogarth <Neill-Hogarth@burger-tech.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 11:04:35 +0100
Subject: AW: Happy New Year, Century, Millennium

>I don't think it worked, Muck ;-)
Of course it did! Just got the wrong Millenium and the time delay of 999
years 11 months was perhaps a little extreme!

Neill Hogarth

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From: aworsley ox <Worsley@miebach.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:53:56 -0000
Subject: dead digest

I can't read the digest on the web hourly, what's going on?
Please can someone reply direct and tell me?

Alasdair Worsley

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From: aworsley ox <Worsley@miebach.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 10:22:02 -0000
Subject: 

It appears, the major locked the doors at closing time Friday and forgot to
reopen them.
Another Green King take-over?

Alasdair Worsley

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From: "Bishop, Alan" <BISA1@worc.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 10:58:17 +0000
Subject: Re: Monaco GP - 4 June 2000

Cheers Brian,
That sounds a fair bit cheaper than I was expecting! I guess we will just 
turn up and see if we can get in. Probably try and find somewhere the 
night before to sleep in the back of the LR.
Thanks
Alan

Tickets for the weekend can be purchased at the circuit on the^O
> day..................get there early.^O
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> You will be restricted to certain areas on the circuit depending on 

which^O
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From: "Moses, Mick" <Mick.Moses@ee-plc.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 11:09:57 -0000
Subject: Recall: Happy New Year, Century, Millennium

Moses, Mick would like to recall the message, "Happy New Year, Century,
Millennium".

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From: aworsley ox <Worsley@miebach.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 11:19:11 -0000
Subject: Dating on LRs

On the dating club line, I've added
http://www.users.waitrose.com/~1tonnefc/me.htm

Showing off of course......

And for those that wish to know, a rod with a hole in an engine means it's
married.

****************************************
Alasdair Worsley
Email: 1tonnefc@waitrose.com (or reply)
Web 1: http://www.users.waitrose.com/~1tonnefc/index.htm
Web 2: http://www.bog.oxfree.com (club) 
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From: "Steve Mace" <steve@solwise.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 11:47:14 -0000
Subject: Re: No LR, Vauxhall

Only problem I can see is that in less than 6 years time the current Government 
(who ever that 
will be) will have increased the duty on LPG until it costs as much as petrol! 
:-(

On 31 Jan 00, at 9:15, aworsley ox wrote:

> Vauxhall are now doing "dual" fuel cars. With gas and petrol tanks and a
> monitoring/swap over system for heat and amount in the tank. 6 years they
> will be on the scrap heaps and we can retro fit them to the LRs.

Steve

1972 SIII LtWt
1993 D90
In the UK
Name: Dr Steve Mace
E-mail: steve@solwise.co.uk
www: http://www.solwise.co.uk
Tel: +44 1482 621888
Fax: +44 1482 621877

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From: "SOTTAVENTURA" <sottaventura@mail.telepac.pt>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:07:15 -0000
Subject: 

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From: "SOTTAVENTURA" <sottaventura@mail.telepac.pt>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:08:37 -0000
Subject: 

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From: "David Levett" <dlevett@pc.jaring.my>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 20:43:20 +0800
Subject: Overland to Canada

This may seem like an off the wall question but - can you go overland =
from the UK to Canada. I don't mean all the way but does anyone know if =
you can get a boat/ferry from Scotland (Shetland Isles) to Iceland. I =
suppose then you need a ferry from the Scottish mainland to the Shetland =
Isles. Then from Iceland to Greenland and on to a ferry from Greenland =
to the Canadian mainland. This would only, I suspect, be possible in the =
height of Summer! if possible at all.
The reason for the question is that I will be moving from Malaysia to =
Canada soon (and the LandRover is in the UK). Rather than having it =
shipped an overland trip sounds appealing.
Any suggestions?
David Levett

dlevett@pc.jaring.my

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From: Colin Shaw <roving@mic.ro>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:28:55 +0200
Subject: RE: Hitting the road

John,
Many thanks, I'll try that.
Bye,
Colin.

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From: Colin Shaw <roving@mic.ro>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:38:42 +0200
Subject: Re: Dreaming Jjjjjjs

Frank,

Be careful - the brakes on those things aren't too good either - mind
you you should see it coming...;-)
I had a Duster (called ARO 10 here) when I was working at the children's
project (the one that now has the V8 110 and an ARO 244 with pug
engine).  1400cc Renault engine, independant front suspension, live axle
leaf sprung rear, part time 4x4 with 4 speed main and 2 speed transfer
box.  Useless on the road, but quite competent on forest and mountain
tracks.  At least it convinced me I needed a Land Rover here.

Bye, Colin (just leaving).

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From: Colin Shaw <roving@mic.ro>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:51:54 +0200
Subject: Re: Brush painting - any ideas?

Frank,

Many thanks for the invite.  Not sure if I can get that far north but
I'll try.  I'm sending my 'unsub' message shortly, but you can e-mail me
off list until midnight tonight.  Do you have a phone number?

Colin.

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From: <Andy_Talbot@unipart.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:02:45 +0000
Subject: Re: Overland to Canada

Scotland mainland to Shetland to Iceland shouldn't be a problem (cost aside...).
Greenland might be. Basically Greenland is covered by one huge ice cap - i.e.
permanent ice/snow. To my knowlege there is no road network, (apart from
immediately around the mostly small coastal communities that do thaw out in
summer). I can ask my brother though 'cos he spent some time there...

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From: Neill Hogarth <Neill-Hogarth@burger-tech.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:23:52 +0100
Subject: AW: Overland to Canada

If you want to go overland then Siberia / Berings Straights / ALaska would
be a real trip. If you want to go via the Shetlands you will still be
shipping it as the port of entry and departure will be the same for the
Shetlands and Iceland. It will just be more expensive.

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From: a.e.french@talk21.com
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:45:16 GMT
Subject: Re:Oh,I should have fixed it earlier! 

It is done, the new spring is in place and the glove removed. Also I managed to 
replace a bolt holding the dynamo on and adjust the front brakes. 

The question I have now is...
  What sort of jack should I buy as the standard LR screw jack is not that 
good. I am looking at present into getting a 4ft jack-all. Any better 
suggestions.

Andie French

1965 Series IIa 109" S/W 'Larry'
Dual fuel LPG/PETROL

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From: a.e.french@talk21.com
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:48:18 GMT
Subject: Re: Ladies

> Wow, a bit of romance in the pub - brilliant!
> Come on Andie and Alasdair - get it together! 
Well I would come on, but he hasn't got me a drink yet, in that vain I have 
been standing here for a while without a drink being offered to me... Sothern 
comfort would be nice :-)

Andie French

1965 Series IIa 109" S/W 'Larry'
Dual fuel LPG/PETROL

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From: "Adams, Rod J" <rod.adams@eds.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:54:44 -0000
Subject: Re: Dating on landrovers

>And for those that wish to know, a rod with a hole in an engine 
>means it's married.
I don't have a hole in my engine, but I'm married. What does that mean?

Cheers

Rod.

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:11:42 +0000
Subject: Re: Dating on landrovers

>I don't have a hole in my engine, but I'm married. What does that mean?

Total subservience usually.

Mike Rooth

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From: <Andy_Talbot@unipart.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:16:46 +0000
Subject: Re: Overland to Canada

Greenland - No roads whatsoever outside of each village. Villages connected by
dog, boat and helicopter only. Across the icecap by plane or foot only.

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:23:22 +0000
Subject: Re:Oh,I should have fixed it earlier!

  What sort of jack should I buy as the standard LR screw jack is not that
good. I am looking at present into getting a 4ft jack-all. Any better
suggestions.

Depends really.If you mean a jack to work with,a Jackall is a
bad idea.It's not anywhere near stable enough to be safe.If,
on the other hand you mean an "unbogging" jack they're fine.
It's just that you mentioned replacing the LR screw jack,and
it wasnt clear what use you intended for it.

Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: Peter Dowson <Peter.Dowson@softwareag.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:25:53 -0000
Subject: RE: Oh,I should have fixed it earlier!

Just picked up on this thread. For workshop / wheelchanging purposes I
reckon that a good rated trolley jack is what you need. It will lift the
vehicle and has the ability to move axles etc.

Peter Dowson

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From: "John Leah" <jleah@nortelnetworks.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:25:15 -0000
Subject: RE: Overland to Canada

Anyone remember that promotional thing Ford did a few years ago? London to
New York, overland, using Mondeos and Maveriks I think.

They got to the Baering St. and were going to cross the pack ice in a weird
'ice crawler'. It sank!

John.

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From: aworsley ox <Worsley@miebach.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:08:18 -0000
Subject: Married

Ah yes but is your Land Rover?

Alasdair Worsley

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From: aworsley ox <Worsley@miebach.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:10:34 -0000
Subject: Pub lurrrve

Yes, true, drinks not yet on offer, but I have invited you to my local pub.
Or has that email not got through.
Do you live near Bicester?

Alasdair Worsley

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From: aworsley ox <Worsley@miebach.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:12:33 -0000
Subject: Jacks

A trolley jack with 350mm + lift and 2 decent axle stands should do you. 
Or a hilift (dangerous) and an axle stand for wheel changing. No wheel
changing on Hilifts here!

Alasdair Worsley

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From: "Adams, Rod J" <rod.adams@eds.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:30:39 -0000
Subject: FW: Oh,I should have fixed it earlier! 

A 4ft jackall is as good as any for carrying about in the vehicle, changing
wheels, recovery etc. Make sure it's tied down or you'll get a lecture from
Geoff :-))

For workshop use I use a 2&1/2 ton trolly jack. They are quicker to use than
the hi-lift and more stable. Get a set of good axle stands whilst your at
it. Trolly jacks look pretty safe but it only takes one seal to go and
you've got a landrover on your head. Not pleasant unless your names jack.
OK, knaff joke but get the stands. 

I've seen adverts for a stand that goes along with a hi-lift for use when
working underneath the vehicle. Anyone tried these?

Cheers

Rod.

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From: "David Levett" <dlevett@pc.jaring.my>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 23:57:19 +0800
Subject: Re: Canada Overland

It sounds like I'm going to have to get my atlas out - Siberia / Berings =
Straights / Alaska - I know nothing about Siberia except the Russian =
exile bit - I think I may need my long-johns though.

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From: aworsley ox <Worsley@miebach.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:41:21 -0000
Subject: Warm un

This weekend, I fitted an electric fan with a £12 thermostat (£20 in all).
Back flushed the heater and removed the flies.
1. The engine is now warm
2. The occupant /s are now warm
3. The single bed in the back is still empty.

On the basis of 2 out of 3, I can deem that modification to be a success.

Alasdair Worsley

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From: "Steve Mace" <steve@solwise.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 17:11:43 -0000
Subject: Re: FW: Oh,I should have fixed it earlier!

Yep..... Got one... 
Use it a fair bit. It's basically two supporting pillars and a cross beam which 
is raised by a High 
Lift jack placed centrally. There are two toes sticking out spaced about 2 and 
half feet apart 
which go under the front bumber or rear x-member. Works quite well and has the 
advantage that 
after you've used the jack to get it up there it locks into position so you can 
remove the jack 
completeley. It is 100 quid though...

On 31 Jan 00, at 15:30, Adams, Rod J wrote:

> I've seen adverts for a stand that goes along with a hi-lift for use when
> working underneath the vehicle. Anyone tried these?
Steve

1972 SIII LtWt
1993 D90
In the UK
Name: Dr Steve Mace
E-mail: steve@solwise.co.uk
www: http://www.solwise.co.uk
Tel: +44 1482 621888
Fax: +44 1482 621877

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From: BurgDM@aol.com
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:07:14 EST
Subject: Re: Ironman leaf springs vs. parabolics

In a message dated 31/01/00 09:50:19 GMT Standard Time, 
hiske_remco@hotmail.com writes:

<< Why did you go for the Chris Perfect ones then??? >>
I replaced them before the Rocky Mountain ones were available.

Darren Burgess

Orange Stage 1 V8 CSW
Bronze Green Ser. III 88" 2.25 petrol

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:22:26 +0100
Subject: Pardon the Land Rover Content

This is really too much. Recently a new and insidious habit is creeping
onto these lists - people are actually talking about Land Rovers.

Now we all know that this list is for discussing firearms, sporting
dogs, philosophy, women, african electrical installations and beer. This
sort of off-topic discussion about motor vehicles is the tip of the
iceberg - if we allow this, next week we'll be talking compression
ratios, lubrication and off-roading, from which it's not far to green
lane politics and paint colours. This off-topic waffle must stop - if we
allow such anarchy it to continue, where will it end?

Maybe we should make a list for those few who wish to discuss this dark
subject?

Yours offtopically,

;-)

Adrian Redmond

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:24:06 +0100
Subject: Re: Welcome Back Adrian / Eddie Evans

Hi Mick/Muck,

Feel free! Help yourself.
:-)

Adrian Redmond

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From: Elwyn York <Elwyn@ey-eg.freeuk.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:29:25 +0000
Subject: Re: Some interesting driving habits

Dear All

When I first got my LR a freinds and garage owner told me about one hire he
did where the guy drove from Aberystwyth to Portsmouth and back.  Going
down apparently there was smoke issuing out of the gearbox area.  Turned
out the handbrake was mostly on, and he was not impressed with the
performance coming back.  He had dropped in low box for manouvering to get
the trailer - about 3 ton - into position and then drove back in low box,
with the handbrake now totally useless.  Also he said the temp guage was
stuck on the red bit.  Even having stopped for 2 hours it didnt come down.
It drank loads of fuel and he (the driver) reckoned the engine wasnt quite
right as it was chucking out black smoke when he was accellerating in top
gear.

After that, the engine was knackered.  One of the oil seals had gone, it
had run dry, the handbrake was a gonner.  several gears were chipped and it
took a lot of coaxing to get it out of low range!

Needless to say it was a good thing the insurance covered it!
Elwyn York   ICQ: 17087824
S3 Lightweight. Aberystwyth, Mid Wales Area.
http://www.ey-eg.freeuk.com ESig@ey-eg.freeuk.com

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From: "Geoff Wilkin" <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:09:42 -0000
Subject: Re: Series 2A H reg, 50 quid

Its worth 50UKP just for the tax free REG...

I already have one, so am not interested....

Geoff

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From: "Geoff Wilkin" <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:17:19 -0000
Subject: Re: A plea

If you come up to Tony's, let me know, as I am only about 15 miles up the
road, and would love to meet up for a chat...

Geoff...

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From: "rob smith" <rob@archenland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:43:43 -0000
Subject: RE: Ugandan electricity

Take a 'bodge-it', that fits anywhere.
Most African electricity can be best described as 'lumpy', both in terms of
frequency (twice a day to once a week) and voltage (50-500).

Rob Smith
Mine's the Blue 110

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From: "Geoff Wilkin" <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:45:28 -0000
Subject: Re: Ladies

That counts Franks OUT.... He can only offer Northern Comfort!... :-))

You see... there is some good points to us "Southerners"

I would offer you some of my home made Sloe Gin....  :-))

Its some good stuff... Just slides down....'seasy

Geoff

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From: "Geoff Wilkin" <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:43:18 -0000
Subject: Re: Re:Oh,I should have fixed it earlier! 

4ft Jack all, or a 4ft Hi Lift. Either are very good.

In the UK we have some chinese copies, and I would not want to risk one, not
for the sake of saving a tenner.
Get a mounting kit, as several Lbs of Jack flying thru the vehicle in the
event of an accident is not very nice.
ie bolt or lock it down.

Geoff

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From: "Geoff Wilkin" <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:50:46 -0000
Subject: Re: Oh,I should have fixed it earlier!

Yep and cheap ones are only twenty quid...

But A Hi-lift / jackall is a usefull item, BUT Must be used with great care,
as you can be dangerous with them.

Engage and Lock in 4WD (Series). or Lock Diff (90/110/Disco/rangey)

Apply Hand brake, and Choch wheels. Or it all just tips off the jack...
Hi-lIfts / jackalls are a single point jack and as such are inherrently
unstable.
Take all the precautions and they are a good tool.

I ALways shove a spare wheel under a section of the chassis near where I am
working, even with Axle stands in use.
At least you have a 6" gap that may save your leg or arm from being
completely severed.

Geoff

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From: "Geoff Wilkin" <geoff.wilkin@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:56:24 -0000
Subject: Re: Ugandan electricity

You need a "Bryant May plug, It fits ALL known Sockets..

Geoff

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From: "Phil Norris" <phil.norris@virgin.net>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 20:04:46 -0000
Subject: 2 PKVs in 1 day....

(de-lurk)
I know Franks free parking hideway in wildest Bolton and wave at PKV
whenever I pass but blow me if I didn't spot a near relative only a few
miles away....
Matt green 110 canvas B80?PKV parked at "K" motors in Horwich... just down
the road...  Is it a list machine and what is the significance of the PKV?
I've read abt particular reg's being ex-Lode lane vehicles....
BTW does anyone know anything of K Motors??  When I finally convince SWMBO
that a LR is a necessity rather than the RR SHE likes they are a likely
candidate for a supplier...
Also (getting his penniesworth) I got a driving day for Christmas but due to
an op am only now looking to take it up.  Both Steve Parker and Abbstracked
are in th catalogue, any pro's/cons to each... I'd prefer maximum LR content
at the loss of tanks etc just to feed my addiction!!
(re-lurk)
TIA
Phil

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From: "Mike Rogers" <MikeRogers@Mattishall.org.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:56:34 -0000
Subject: : RE: gearbox types

Tim Wrote:
>True enough, you can get anything to fit, some will be easier than others.
>The LT95 RR box should bolt straight in, and John is correct that the later
>ones used the LT85 box.  (These boxes are very good, but very expensive)
Frank Wrote:
>I've had two 5spd gearboxes fitted in the 110 after changing from the
>original 4 spd. Both, I was told, came out of Nineties, but goodness knows
>what letters or numbers they are...
John wrote:
>My 110 started off with a LT77 (before I had it), I fitted an LT95 to the
>original seat box and am now about to fit an LT85 to it.....only needs a
>little bit of cutting ;-)
Ok bear with me I am getting there. Can anyone now describe to  me what an
LT77 or LT95 is? I for instance use a four speed long stick Range Rover box
in the Hybrid of the type with integrated transfer box but do not have a
clue what its LT number is. Would a scrap V8 Range Rover of similar year to
the 110 yield the same box and bellhousing? I am (or so I have been told)
quite  good at making things fit but it is a hell of a lot easier if you
start off with the most compatible parts.

Mike Rogers
Lightweight/Range Rover hybrid
gearboxless 110 project

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From: "John McMaster" <john@chiaroscuro.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 20:48:50 -0000
Subject: RE: : RE: gearbox types

You have an LT95 gearbox in your hybrid, that will drop straight into a 110
V8. Is it a V8 chassis as the engine mountings are in a different place?
LT95 (4 speed) and LT85 (5 speed) are stronger than the LT77, not sure where
the R380 slots in....

Tim Wrote:
>True enough, you can get anything to fit, some will be easier than others.
>The LT95 RR box should bolt straight in, and John is correct that the later
>ones used the LT85 box.  (These boxes are very good, but very expensive)
Frank Wrote:
>I've had two 5spd gearboxes fitted in the 110 after changing from the
>original 4 spd. Both, I was told, came out of Nineties, but goodness knows
>what letters or numbers they are...
John wrote:
>My 110 started off with a LT77 (before I had it), I fitted an LT95 to the
>original seat box and am now about to fit an LT85 to it.....only needs a
>little bit of cutting ;-)
Ok bear with me I am getting there. Can anyone now describe to  me what an
LT77 or LT95 is? I for instance use a four speed long stick Range Rover box
in the Hybrid of the type with integrated transfer box but do not have a
clue what its LT number is. Would a scrap V8 Range Rover of similar year to
the 110 yield the same box and bellhousing? I am (or so I have been told)
quite  good at making things fit but it is a hell of a lot easier if you
start off with the most compatible parts.

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From: "Rob Stewart" <rob_bovensparkle@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:16:50 PST
Subject: Re: : RE: gearbox types

>Ok bear with me I am getting there. Can anyone now describe to  me what an
>LT77 or LT95 is? I for instance use a four speed long stick Range Rover box
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>quite  good at making things fit but it is a hell of a lot easier if you
>start off with the most compatible parts.

Hi Mike,

The early Range Rovers 1970 to about 1980 had the LT95 4 speed box with 
integrated transfer box as did the Stage 1 V8 Landrovers. The later Range 
Rovers had the LT77 5 speed box with a seperate LT230 Transfer Case either 
the LT230R or LT230T (signified by a B suffix on the serial number) The V8 
110s followed a similar pattern though the 5 Speed LT85 (Santana) box did 
appear in them.

Rob Stewart
Bovenkarspel, Netherlands

1999  90 Td5 CSW
1999 110 Td5 CSW
1975  88 Series III Hard Top
1975 2 Door Range Rover

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From: "Eric Leuzinger" <eric@solihull64.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:24:52 -0000
Subject: Re: Ironman leaf springs vs. parabolics

Thanks for your help

Loz

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From: "Eric Leuzinger" <eric@solihull64.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:35:19 -0000
Subject: Re: Pardon the Land Rover Content

The cold is getting to you, isn't it?

Loz

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From: "Eric Leuzinger" <eric@solihull64.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:44:34 -0000
Subject: Re: Oh,I should have fixed it earlier!

I definitely agree...nearly came a cropper about 3 years ago, axle stands
were sinking ( unknown to me ) into tarmac softened by hot weather.
Fortunately LR just slid onto spare thrown under chassis frame. I was
trapped under but had a breathing space and only suffered bruising and
intercostal muscle damage due to crush effect. But I'm still here. These
days I also chuck under a couple of short sections of railway sleeper I
obtained. They double as excellent ramps when the wheels can stay on.

Loz

> I ALways shove a spare wheel under a section of the chassis near where I
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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:22:59 -0000
Subject: Re: RE:Welcome Back Adrian / Eddie Evans

'walking', yeah, I've heard of that...
Best Cheers
Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 20:37:39 -0000
Subject: Re: 2 PKVs in 1 day....

Phil Norris wrote:
>>>> I know Franks free parking hideway in wildest Bolton and wave at PKV
> whenever I pass<<<<<
well why not pop in for a pint one lunchtime?

>>> but blow me if I didn't spot a near relative only a few
> miles away....
> Matt green 110 canvas B80?PKV parked at "K" motors in Horwich... just down
> the road...  Is it a list machine and what is the significance of the PKV?
> I've read abt particular reg's being ex-Lode lane vehicles....<<<<<
PKV is a Lode Lane registration, some have made press pictures but mostly
they appear to be just company cars etc. Mine was one of I am told 12 of the
sliding window types bought back from dealers when the wind-down windows
came out (at the same time as the Ninety in 1984, which is why I always
refer to her as a 1983 despite the B reg)
I know of a few PKVs - one 110 on this list which we believe was one of the
same dozen. But I donl;t know of the one at K motors..

>>>> BTW does anyone know anything of K Motors??  When I finally convince
SWMBO
> that a LR is a necessity rather than the RR SHE likes they are a likely
> candidate for a supplier...<<<<<
I have bought odd things from K Motors since working in Bolton with
occasional forays to Horwich. All I really know is that a former chairman of
Red Rose Land Rovers went to work there years ago and I liked and trusted
him. I have never heard anything bad about them...

>>>> Also (getting his penniesworth) I got a driving day for Christmas but
due to  an op am only now looking to take it up.  Both Steve Parker and
Abbstracked  are in th catalogue, any pro's/cons to each... I'd prefer
maximum LR content at the loss of tanks etc just to feed my addiction!!<<<<

I think most on this list know that I rate Steve Parker very highly and have
used his parts and workshops for many years. Dunno the other people. From
talking to Steve, however, I reckon there's more on the Abbott and big
trucks than Land Rovers, although he does have a couple on his driving
days - I intend to go on one of his days when he starts up again in the
Spring.

Best Cheers
Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Kevan Shaw" <kevan.shaw@webcom.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 23:34:13 +0000
Subject: Steering

My series 3 has suddenly developed an alarming fault, intermittently the 
steering becomes extremely stiff over about a quarter turn of the wheel then
it eases up after the quarter turn. This happens once a day or several times
on a trip. The swivels seem Ok as do the joints so I guess that leaves the
steering column or box, any ideas where to look first?

TIA Kevan Shaw

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 00:43:45 +0100
Subject: Re: Steering

Suspect the swivels or the relay - or that one of the ball bearings in
the steering box is missing/damaged and stuck in the worm gear at
critical parts of the rotation of the steering column.

I had this once on my 109. I was doing a total rebuild at the time, so i
didn't use much energy diagnosing it, as everything moveable in the
steering system was either to be overhauled or replaced. But I did find
a crushed ball in the steering box, which gave the same symptoms on the
workbench before I split it.

Good luck.

Adrian Redmond

          http://www.channel6.dk/native

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:36:17 -0000
Subject: Re: No LR, Vauxhall

or if it's more popular it'll be dearer than petrol.
Conspiracy theory anyone? No just politicians....
Best Cheers
Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:25:58 -0000
Subject: Re: Happy New Year, Century, Millennium

I really, like really, wish I had some way of dating when my emails arrive
:-)>
Best Cheers
Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 20:48:13 -0000
Subject: Re: Off topic - monaco GP

sorry mate - already spoken for...

Best Cheers
Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:23:47 -0000
Subject: Re: No LR, Vauxhall

Citroen also doing them....
Best Cheers
Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:31:55 -0000
Subject: Re: Recall: Happy New Year, Century, Millennium

so you don't want us to have a happy etc ?
Best Cheers
Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "John Leah" <jleah@nortelnetworks.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 00:16:28 -0000
Subject: LRM

I emerged from post Christmas financial hibernation at the weekend and
popped into Smiths for the monthly Land Rover trilogy: LRM, LRW & LRO.
Picked up Feb LRW, March(!) LRO but couldn't get Feb LRM. I asked the
assistant if they'd sold out and her considered opinion (without checking)
was no, it just wasn't out yet. Is she right or was I just being fobbed off?

What will I do without 'parting shot'? read his e-mails, I suppose - yep,
there's another one:-)

John.

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:45:13 -0000
Subject: Re: Overland to Canada

>>>>Siberia / Berings Straights / ALaska <<<<
but, if Ford with all their millions couldn't manage it :-)>
Best Cheers 
Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:57:52 -0000
Subject: Re: Oh,I should have fixed it earlier! 

trolley jack, with some wood to stand it on for soft ground is by far the
safest. I wouldn't try to change a wheel with a high-lift unless I had
someone holding onto the jack, and even then.....

by the way, this weekend we found use number 874 for a high-lift. On it's
side and up against a wall it moved the BIGGEST and HEAVIEST workshop bench
in the world
Best Cheers
Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: Steve Reddock <steve@softguides.com>
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 14:44:56 +0900
Subject: Santana lives!

You can buy a new Santana, leaf sprung defender clone with a Iveco diseasel 
engine.

http://www.ticonsole.nl/parts/../santana/ps-10.htm

The use "nice plastic" to avoid fuel tank corrosion problems:

Fuel capacity: 100 l (!) in nice plastic tank

19,000 euros is about 11 and a half grand...

It's interesting at that price.

You'd be looking at a fairly old 110 to be that cheap.

Still not sure if I'd ever pay 11.5k for leaf springs.

Steve

PS you can also get parabolic springs for your series here.

=====
Steve Reddock
Softguides Tokyo
Softguides Network: city information from around the world
steve@softguides.com
http://www.softguides.com

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