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From: Lorri Paustian <lorri@sound.net>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 04:18:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Waving (was American Safari)

At 09:33 PM 1/13/99 +1100, you wrote:
>>99.999 percent of Range Rover and Discovery owners have
>>no idea of Land Rover's  history or what a Series Land Rover
>>even is.

My husband parked his D90 at one of the local hardware stores next to a
Range Rover owner.  The Range Rover owner says, "I like those Land Rovers.
And you know they're made by Range Rover"  Steve explains that no, Land
Rover makes Range Rover.  The guy insists that since he's had his Range
Rover for some time now he knows that Range Rover makes Land Rovers.  Sheesh!
Lorri Paustian, Flatland Rover Society
Lenexa, Kansas
'95 Coniston Green D90 SW
'95 Arles Blue D90 SW
'93 D110

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From: "M. Tompkins" <mmglass@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 07:47:39 -0500
Subject: Re: rainex

Mick Forster wrote:

> I've never tried car wax, but the good lady once used a household window
> cleaner on the motor which left the glass clean when it was dry but in
> the wet, at night the glare was so bad I had to stop and do something.

Speaking as a stained glass craftsman, I only use a mixture of
vinegar and water to clean any window. Guaranteed to leave no
streaks nor any glare. If a window is really filthy I use some good
old fashioned baking soda. In this case good old fashioned methods
and all natural ingredients works best. Also an inexpensive solution!
    On stained glass windows we use a wax, similar to carnuba. The
stuff we get is thinner. Never tried it on my rover but will and post
the results. I have been using Rain-X for many years. Don't do much
night driving, so I have never noticed the glare others have mentioned.
Probably will notice it now that it was mentioned here.
    I never have used Rain-X on any of our other cars' windshields,
you need to use the wipers anyway and my wife complains about the
noise. I rarely use the wipers on the rover. I think the combination
of the flat and upright posture of the windshield adds to the
success I have achieved using Rain-X.
    While on the subject. A few years ago, when one of the
windshields started to leak. I pulled it and used stained glass putty
to reseal it. The same stuff used to seal leaded windows. I figure
if some of those cathedral windows have stayed leak free for over
a hundred years it would work for my rover. I'd be happy with
10 years. Did the other side this year and so far it shows no signs
of deteriorating.

Cheers,
Mike
'66 109" Hybrid Coiler SW - 'No Chance'
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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:00:11 +0100
Subject: Re: Cam swap

I'd go the slow hard route if I were you. Some years ago, I was changing
a head gasket, and decided to check the cam followers for wear. In the
process, I removed the guide on the back valve (#8) before removing the
cam follower and roller - and the roller dropped down into the engine,
behind the camshaft. Luckily for me it was #8, as I could remove the
cover at the rear of the engine (a pig without removing the engine or
the firewall!) and get the roller out that way. If it had been any other
valve, I would have had to turn the engine upside down and shake it
until the roller fell our like loose change.

So - sum ad sumarum - remove the head, pull the valve rods, remove the
cam followers and rollers using a bit of hooked wire, THEN (and only
then) remove the rolers. The you can pull the cam.

This is one job which i won't try to do quickly another time!

Adrian Redmond

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:06:32 +0100
Subject: Cleaning windows

There is no better substitute for cleaning windows than newspaper and
diluted ammonia spray.

Usual disclaimers - watch your eyes!

Adrian Redmond

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From: Leger Marc-Andre <mleger@wefa.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:19:31 -0500
Subject: RE: Cleaning windows

vinegar is good too...

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:59:34 +0000
Subject: Re: Cleaning windows

Once,many years ago,I cleaned a car windshield with Teepol,commercial
liquid soap,on my father''s recommendation.What Father did *not* say
was that it needed to be diluted.*Very* diluted.It got the glass
beautifully clean.Then it rained.You can take it from one who knows
that windshield wipers will NOT successfully clean off copious
amounts of soapsuds,especially the sort that keep regenerating in
the rain!

Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 99 05:58:05 -0800
Subject: Re: Hydraulic Thingamajigs....

> With a 109 3-door it would be simple - there are lockers back there that
>would easily take a tank. 
;>Were it me, though, I think I'd mount the tank on a 109
;> 3-door in the well opening for the spare-tyre well - make a 
rectangular tank
;> with a lip on the top edge and just drop it in and rivet it down. 
Recess the
;> filler and you don't even lose any floorspace.

This is where and how I mounted The Green Rover's water tank.  There is 
an unused outrigger below this opening.  My water tank is mounted as Bill 
describes above AND it is deep enough that it sits on the outrigger with 
a pad of rubber between.  The outrigger takes the weight while the flange 
helps keep it in location.  The tank hold 15 gallons of drinking water.

The same space and outrigger on the other side holds a 5 gallon propane 
tank.

TeriAnn Wakeman                                  Border to Border
Santa Cruz, California                          Expedition Society 
twakeman@cruzers.com                           "Live the adventure"
http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman           http://www.bordertoborder.com

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From: "Andy Grafton" <andyg@sherco.co.za>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:47:01 +0200
Subject: Re: Waving (was American Safari)

>>99.999 percent of Range Rover and Discovery owners have
%%no idea of Land Rover's  history or what a Series Land Rover
##even is.

This bait is well worth rising to!

I would tend to exclude those RR owners who own vehicles that 
were made in the 70's and early 80's...  After all, their cars are 
older than any Defender on the road.

Pet hate...  persons with post 1970 leaf sprung vehicles 
automatically assuming that a rangie is a "newer" vehicle than 
theirs.

Lorri wrote;
<snip> Land Rover makes Range Rover.  The guy insists that 
> since he's had his Range Rover for some time now he knows that 
# Range Rover makes Land Rovers.

Hmmm..... now what *is* a Defender but a jumped up '70's Rangie 
with an old style body on to persuade technophobes that it is still a 
"real" Land Rover?

chickeneggchickeneggchicken?

Flames to the usual address.

All the best,
^O
Andy
andyg@sherco.co.za
'79RR and '82 SIII.....

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 99 06:23:34 -0800
Subject: Re: Moab

> During the week of April 19th through the 24th, members of 
>the Arizona Land Rover Owners club will be heading to Moab, 
;> Utah for a week of 4x4ing. We will be working with a couple 
;> of California Clubs in trying to do this as a package deal.  
;>I will be obtain room rates and arranging for guide service.
<SNIP>
;> What the schedule will be like is Sunday the 18th arrive at hotel.
<SNIP>
;>The package will be for the hotel and guide service.

Moab has extensive BLM (Bureau of Land Management) lands around the 
parks.  The area is full of free or VERY inexpensive camping grounds.  
During the warm months the Moab area is one of my very favorite places to 
camp.

I'm sure you guys are setting up a good Hotel/ restaurant/guided tour 
trip.  but....

TeriAnn Wakeman                                  Border to Border
Santa Cruz, California                          Expedition Society 
twakeman@cruzers.com                           "Live the adventure"
http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman           http://www.bordertoborder.com

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 99 06:43:24 -0800
Subject: Re: Waving (was American Safari)

>99.999 percent of Range Rover and Discovery owners have
>no idea of Land Rover's  history or what a Series Land Rover
>even is.
;
This happened to me in a local parking lot just before Christmas.  The 
quotes are as best as I can remember the conversation.

I was going shopping and parked The Green Rover (1960 109) in a parking 
lot.  This fellow in a Land Rover Discovery parked almost opposite me 
while I was gathering my purse and putting the keys in it.  He walked 
over and with a smile said "Real nice looking Land Cruiser you have.  
What year is it?"

I looked him in the eyes, smiled and said "1960."  I glanced towards his 
Discovery and commented "Nice looking new Land Cruiser you have there too"

He corrected me by saying "No Mine is not a Land Cruiser, It's a Land 
Rover."

I just said "Oh.  The badge on the front looks kinda like the one on my 
car so I just thought that they were made by the same company" and walked 
away to the store.

TeriAnn Wakeman               If you send me direct mail, please
Santa Cruz, California        start the subject line with TW - 
twakeman@cruzers.com           I will be sure to read the message

http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman   

"How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare"
Amelia Earhart 1898-1937

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From: "Andy Grafton" <andyg@sherco.co.za>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:02:35 +0200
Subject: Re: Waving (was American Safari)

> True!  Even Down Under it's the same.  But, Series drivers don't wave back
> to Rangie drivers either (and no comments, PU-LEEASE).

Bit different here...  I get regularly waved at by Series 
vehicles/Defenders in the Rangie and by Rangie owners in the SIII; 
I mean by people I don't know.  Those I do know, ignore me..! :-(
Maybe having a Rangie that looks battered helps with the LR<>RR 
identification?

What surprises me is the number of people driving 4.6HSE's that 
wave or pull up to chat when I'm driving/parking the old Rangie.  It 
appears that most of them are above 65, sold their mid-70's-80's 
Rangies to someone like me, bought the HSE when they retired 
and "miss the old girl" ....  "best damn car I ever had" and so on.  
When questioned, however, they say that they wouldn't switch 
back.  I wonder why?!?!

All the best,

Andy
andyg@sherco.co.za, '79RR

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From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 9:50:53 -0500
Subject: Waving...

Hey, you! In the Rover! LOOK OVER HERE!! Yeah, HI !!! Yup....I'm an 
IDIOT!!!

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'69 Buick LeSabre Ragtop
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon,
'81 Honda Goldwing 1100 Standard:
"Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching"

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From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <rover@pinn.net>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:37:54 -0500
Subject: Of Tappets and Followers

"Steve Rochna" <mns@oasisol.com> wrote:

>I'm thinking about changing the camshaft in my 2.25 in the near future. 
>Has anyone done this without removing the head?  It seems that I may be
>able to lift the lifters out of the way with wire or hooks/strings while
>swapping but that's just a thought.

I don't see how.  The "lifters" are basically three parts: a little steel
hockey puck (the roller cam follower - a pretty revolutionary design for
1957), the u-shaped brass tappet piece and the pushrod.  While you may be
able to get ahold of the tappets (once the wired-on secutity bolts are
released) I don't know any gizmo that'll grab the follower.  Can't use a
magnet, 'cause that'll grab the cast iron of the block and you can't remove
the tappet slides without removing the head.

BTW...all these bits these should be retained in sets. And don't forget
that little grub screw holding the dizzy drive gear in place.  It's under
the oil filter mount and is a real *&$#% to refit....  Cheers

  *----jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary----*
  |                                                   |
  |             A. P. ("Sandy") Grice                 |
  |    Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
  |     Association of North American Rover Clubs     |
  |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
  |(O)757-622-7054, (H)757-423-4898, FAX 757-622-7056 |
  |                                                   |
  |   (original owner)        (pre-production)        | 
  *----1972 Series III------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)----*

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From: "Chris Dillard" <cdillard@Aholdusa.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:40:27 -0500
Subject: Re: Waving (was American Safari)

Even though I own, both 2 series trucks and a Disco (previously 91 RR),
Ihave to agree with TA that the majority of other rover owners (Disco and
RR) never wave, even when I flash at them (lights that it). They just seem
to look at me  like I'm a "freak" of some sort (I very well may be) (one
more rover and I might be a divorced freak!!) Mosy of the waves that I get
are from older LC  and CJ's (as well as cute young girls in little
BMW's)(Only on my way home when I pass by the local HS)

Cheers,

Christopher (smili' and wavin') Dillard Dba
                                  Ahold USA (BI-LO Inc)
95 Discovery V8i (Rusty II)        cdillard@aholdusa.com
55 Series I    (???)                     Greenville, SC USA
55 Series I (The Green Hornet)
1989 Thoroughbred Racehorse (the other Rusty!!)
SoLaRos #136
http://www.mindspring.com/~cfdillard

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 99 08:27:58 -0800
Subject: Re: Waving (was American Safari)

Near Silicon Valley there are a LOT of new Rover products on the road and 
no one waves at the Rover products.  I very seldom see other series rigs 
on the road since I got laid off from Apple and I no longer park my 
Dormie next to David Reha's Dormie in the Apple parking lot.

I get occasionally waves from people driving cookie cutter clone 2WD 
cars.  I guess they just admire the car  

I get a fairly high percentage of waves from people driving old Land 
Cruisers. My guess is that they are acknowledging the relationship of 
someone maintaining a semi-orphan old unusual off road rig.

When I'm on the highway returning from trips with the roof rack loaded I 
get a lot of waves from people in CJs & old Land Cruisers loaded for 
camping.  I think that are acknowledging someone who actually uses their 
4X4 for camping trips.  Of course now we are usually traveling close to 
the same speeds on the level highway and there is lots of time to look at 
each other's cars & wave.  

I get waves from:
Range Rover owners less than 1% of the time
Discovery owners less than 1% of the time 
CJ & earlier jeep owners about 3% of the time
Defender owners about 25% of the time, 
FJ-40 owners about 40% 
series owners about 90% of the time

These days I'm a lot more apt to wave at older 4X4s and never wave first 
at a Plushmobile unless I know the driver.  The Plushie owner would just 
think I was an idiot.  The owners of old 4X4s KNOW I am and tend to wave 
back acknowledging that they are too.

When my car is sitting in a parking lot I see someone going over and 
looking at her well over 50% of the time. and someone asks me questions 
about 10% of the times I park in a crowded public parking lot.  The first 
question is ether what year is it? or so what makes it an historical 
vehicle?  I have historical vehicle license plates on the car.

"Where the waves are someone waves for me"....All the world's a song cue

TeriAnn Wakeman                                  Border to Border
Santa Cruz, California                          Expedition Society 
twakeman@cruzers.com                           "Live the adventure"
http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman           http://www.bordertoborder.com

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From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:32:42 +0200
Subject: Re: Waving (was American Safari)

TeriAnn Wakeman wrote:
> I just said "Oh.  The badge on the front looks kinda like the one on my
> car so I just thought that they were made by the same company" and walked
> away to the store.

You gotta mean streak in you, supergirl!

Regards

Paul Oxley
http://AfricanAdrenalin.co.za
http://Adventures.co.za

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From: CIrvin1258@aol.com
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:28:16 EST
Subject: Re: Waving (was American Safari)

I get the most waves from D-90/110 folks, when in my 109. Here in L.A., too
many "rich posh bastards" drive Range Rovers, and they won't even take their
eyes off of what's in front of them! I do, very very rarely, get a wave from a
Range Rover owner, when I'm in my own Range Rover - but almost never when in
my 109.

However, when I'm climbing out of the 109, I get more people walking up, and
gawking at the truck - and most know what it is. (was having tires removed
from TR-4 wheels just yesterday, and all the guys/customers at the tire shop,
came over to look at it!)

I remember the very first Brit car show at the Santa Monica Airport: I went to
it riding along with a buddy of mine, in his 109 SW. When at the entrance, the
lady looks, and says "Oh, you're in a Jeep: you have to park outside the
facility with the other Jeeps."!

...first time I've ever seen this guy so angry that he wanted to kill!

Charles

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:54:13 -0800
Subject: ... by any other name

I've noticed that many of the local kids under 15 seem to think that my
Rover is a Hummer  :-0

Mind you, all of my relatives back in Glasgow call their vacuum a Hoover, be
it an Electrolux or what have you...

They even go as far as to verb it as in "I can't come out this afternoon as
I have to hoover the rugs..."

I think that  'fridge' originated from 'Fridgidair' and not 'refrigerator'.

But I still call my Maytag a fridge.

Paul, 
1961 SII 88
Victoria, BC  Canada

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 99 11:07:13 -0800
Subject: Re: Waving (was American Safari)

>I remember the very first Brit car show at the Santa Monica Airport: I 
>went to it riding along with a buddy of mine, in his 109 SW. When 
>at the entrance, the lady looks, and says "Oh, you're in a Jeep: you 
;>have to park outside the facility with the other Jeeps."!

;>...first time I've ever seen this guy so angry that he wanted to kill!

Had I been on the jury I would have voted for justifiable homicide.

"I'm sorry but the Singers need to park outside with the rest of the 
sewing machines..."

TeriAnn Wakeman                                  Border to Border
Santa Cruz, California                          Expedition Society 
twakeman@cruzers.com                           "Live the adventure"
http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman           http://www.bordertoborder.com

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@ibm.net>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:09:46 +0100
Subject: Re: ... by any other name

wrote:
>I think that  'fridge' originated from 'Fridgidair' and not
'refrigerator'.

>But I still call my Maytag a fridge.

My aunt still calls it an "icebox".

Tom Rowe
Atlanta, GA

Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck
in places even more inaccessible.

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@ibm.net>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:11:37 +0100
Subject: Re: Waving (was American Safari)

wrote:
snip
>"I'm sorry but the Singers need to park outside with the rest of the 
>sewing machines..."

"Park your Sunbeam out with the loaves of bread"?
:-)

Tom Rowe
Atlanta, GA

Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck
in places even more inaccessible.

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From: GElam30092@aol.com
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:08:44 EST
Subject: Re: Waving (was American Safari)

In a message dated 1/13/99 11:33:18 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
CIrvin1258@aol.com writes:

<< Here in L.A., too
 many "rich posh bastards" drive Range Rovers, and they won't even take their
 eyes off of what's in front of them!  >>

How do you expect them to wave?  Cell phone in one hand and Starbucks coffee
in the other..... it's the same when I go to Scottsdale.

Cheers,
Gerry Elam
PHX AZ

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From: Dale Smith <smithd@bunt.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:30:35 +0100
Subject: Re: Waving

TW posted....
I get occasionally waves from people driving cookie cutter clone 2WD 
cars.  I guess they just admire the car  
I get a fairly high percentage of waves from people driving old Land 
Cruisers. My guess is that they are acknowledging the relationship of 
someone maintaining a semi-orphan old unusual off road rig.
When I'm on the highway returning from trips with the roof rack loaded
I 
get a lot of waves from people in CJs & old Land Cruisers loaded for 
camping.  I think that are acknowledging someone who actually uses
their 
4X4 for camping trips.  Of course now we are usually traveling close to 
the same speeds on the level highway and there is lots of time to look
at 
each other's cars & wave.  
I get waves from:
Range Rover owners less than 1% of the time
Discovery owners less than 1% of the time 
CJ & earlier jeep owners about 3% of the time
Defender owners about 25% of the time, 
FJ-40 owners about 40% 
series owners about 90% of the time
These days I'm a lot more apt to wave at older 4X4s and never wave
first 
at a Plushmobile unless I know the driver.  The Plushie owner would
just 
think I was an idiot.  The owners of old 4X4s KNOW I am and tend to
wave 
back acknowledging that they are too.

TW, were you the person talking about coming to Europe on vacation? If
you do come over, don't expect any waves in Germany (France, Belgium,
UK, or Holland usually). I don't think the idea of a friendly wave has
made it here yet. I have only gotten one here, and that was just a nice
older couple flagging down a fellow Rangie owner to ask us directions
because they were confused(not lost mind you, "are you sure we are on
that page in the atlas?") about where they were.
As you pointed out in a previous post, if Rover owners can't even
identify other model Rovers, I guess you can't really expect them to
manage even a polite wave.
Rant mode off, time for another Guiness.
Smitty

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:49:10 +0100
Subject: Re: ... by any other name

Ah! Now I know what a Maytag is....!

thanks!

Adrian Redmond

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From: mary freeman <marfree@iosys.net>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:02:37 -0600
Subject: Range Rover shimmy

Help!
We have a problem with our 1990 Range Rover County which has baffled our
area Land Rover dealer/garage. 
We noticed a severe shimmy at highway speed which causes the steering
wheel to shake violently until we slow down to about 35 mph or less. We
have noticed that this happens only after hitting a bump or ridge in the
pavement which goes on an angle to the vehicle. And it seems to happen
more frequently at speeds of 55 mph or more, although it has on occasion
occurred at slower speeds. 
We have taken it to our area Rover garage and their mechanic drove it to
duplicate the shimmy we had described to him. They had no suggestions
but to begin replaceing front suspension parts in the hope that this
would solve the problem. Obviously, this was too expensive and chancy
(about $5,000) a solution to commit to. 
So we continue to drive our SUV, but have noticed that the shimmy seems
to be occurring more frequently. 
The Rover dealer replaced the steering box (which was leaking) last
year, but we are unsure whether there is any connection to this problem.
Anybody there have any ideas? 
Tom Freeman
marfree@iosys.net

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From: st93wxta@drexel.edu
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:12:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: rainex / glare

I keep a bottle of rain-x under the seat in case the wipers give out.

I have noticed a good amount of glare off my windscreen at night regardless 
of weather conditions.  I heard that an old glass is likely to be 
scratched causing glare.  Anyone ever use any kind of buffing compound to 
polish out all those tiny scratches?

Casey M

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From: asfco <asfco@banet.net>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:52:20 -0500
Subject: Re: rainex / glare/Buffing scratches

st93wxta@drexel.edu wrote:
 
>   Anyone ever use any kind of buffing compound to
> polish out all those tiny scratches?
> FWIW;

 On the advise of a local glass shop I used Crest Toothpaste to remove
some fine scratches on my windscreen.  This is exactly what the shop
uses, seems it has more grit than the regular glass rouge compound the
suppliers sell to the glass shops and is way cheaper.
it works well and leaves a fresh clean scent
recommended by 4 out of 5 Glaziers 
Rgds
Steve Bradke

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From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <rover@pinn.net>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:54:46 -0500
Subject: Carbs and fuel pumps

C. Marin Faure faurecm@halcyon.com wrote:

>>If it doesn't, you can make it flat by sanding it using the appropriate
>grit paper on a piece of glass.  However, if it warped once, it will 
>probably warp again.

Basically, you've got to do what Solex (they own Zenith now) neglected to
do: anneal the damn thing.  Strip it of all its brass and rubber bits and
put it in a 350F oven overnight.  The next day, decrease the temp by 50F
each hour 'til you are at room temperature.  *Then* glass plate grind the
thing...for the last time....

scott wilson <swilson@spacelab.net> wrote:

>I had to put about a quart of oil in it every hour... fixed the valve
>cover, but now the oil's leaking from somewhere like the fuel pump gasket
>or something... but every inch of the bottom (and back) of the
>truck are covered in a layer of oil...

Ben Smith wrote a piece on this two months or so ago...basically, the oil
seal for the pushrod of the oil pump has perished, and it is vigorously
pumping oil out the little breather hole on the bottom half of the pump
housing.  Ben used a brake cylinder seal (appropriately modified with a
Swiss Army knife) to fabriate a new one as the seal is NLA.

I can't really imagine that this is truly No Longer Available.  A while
back, I called up AC, trying to source some more of those nifty glass
sediment bowls that are so perfect for the consumption of single malt.  The
guy said that he'd check the stock in the computer.  "I've got a
few...*thirteen thousand* in the warehouse."  Unfortunately, to get a
volume discount, I had to buy a a *pallet's* worth (16 cases of a gross
each).  I've got the AC number around here somewhere...I'll try to give 'em
another ring.  I'll bet they've got thousands of these seals somewhere....
Cheers

  *----jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary----*
  |                                                   |
  |             A. P. ("Sandy") Grice                 |
  |    Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
  |     Association of North American Rover Clubs     |
  |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
  |(O)757-622-7054, (H)757-423-4898, FAX 757-622-7056 |
  |                                                   |
  |   (original owner)        (pre-production)        | 
  *----1972 Series III------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)----*

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From: andy Smith <andy@bobstar.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:35:45 +0000
Subject: ser2a clutch

Friends,
        A mate of mine with a diesel 2a is having a spot of bother with
his clutch. He parked it up 6 weeks ago, and has now fixed the engine so
he tried to move it and the clutch doesn't work. He has record the
master cylinder and re bled it but it still isn't working. He has about
1" movement on the slave cylinder is that enough?. The clutch isn't
seized but it just wont engage any one got any ideas?.
 I havent seen the job yet he phoned me up the other night and I though
I would ask the gang.

-- 
andy Smith
1965 ser2a V8 swb ccvt/road
1971 ser2a 2.25P swb road
Tamworth Staffs

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From: Slade@DreamLab.cc (Michael Slade)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:00:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Waving (was American Safari)

>In a message dated 1/13/99 11:33:18 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
>CIrvin1258@aol.com writes:
><< Here in L.A., too
> many "rich posh bastards" drive Range Rovers, and they won't even take their
> eyes off of what's in front of them!  >>
>How do you expect them to wave?  Cell phone in one hand and Starbucks coffee
>in the other..... it's the same when I go to Scottsdale.
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>Gerry Elam
>PHX AZ

Damn Range Rover owners!  Who do they think they are anyway!

Hrumph.

Michael Slade
Portland, Oregon
www.DreamLab.cc

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From: Marc-Andre Leger <ma.leger@wefa.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:13:02 -0500
Subject: Re: Waving (was American Safari)

My 2 cents...

I still wave anyway... RR, LL, Series, what ever... even J**ps sometimes...

MA Leger '94 D90

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:50:08 -0000
Subject: Re: Waving (was American Safari)
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two on this thread:
I arrived at a family wedding in my 1972 Range Rover some years back, an =
admiring cousin looked at it (lights on the roof, bullbar, few more =
mods, no Range Rover badge but plenty of stickers) and said, "Oh, is it =
one of those Japanese things?" when I said no he said "Well it says =
Yokohama on the back."
 Parking my 110 (with everything on) at a Rotary meeting a fellow =
Rotarian walked up, walked around it and then said: "I can't see a name =
badge, what kind of vehicle is this?"
 and this is in the UK!!!
Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+           
     I !__|  [_]|_\___  
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:08:58 -0000
Subject: Re: Waving (was American Safari)
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just to annoy our transatlantic cousins..
there are so many Land Rovers, of every type, around the Lancashire =
Hills where I live, used by farmers, builders, and just about everybody =
else, no-one waves 'cos you'd be waving for evermore. My record is being =
part of a seven Land Rover convoy, not one of which knew the others, we =
just happened to be driving along the same road.
 however, identifiably enthusiast vehicles, (club badges, extra lights, =
winch etc) Ser, 110, Ninety, Rangie, Disco all wave at each other.
Best Cheers

Frank
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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:23:23 -0000
Subject: Re: rainex / glare
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Have used "Brasso" a liquid metal polish available her in the UK. =
However, the terror involved in trying not to miss a bit, or cock it up, =
plus the four hours it took led me to believe that it's cheaper to buy =
new glass.
It's flat laminate fer chrissake, how expensive can that be?
Best Cheers

Frank
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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:17:41 -0000
Subject: Re: Waving (was American Safari)
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>>>>I remember the very first Brit car show at the Santa Monica Airport: =
I went to
it riding along with a buddy of mine, in his 109 SW. When at the =
entrance, the
lady looks, and says "Oh, you're in a Jeep: you have to park outside the
facility with the other Jeeps."!
>>>>I remember the very first Brit car show at the Santa Monica Airport: =
I was "on duty" at the LRO stand at Billing last year when a guy =
(English) walked in and asked if we knew the owner of "the jeep outside =
with a for sale sticker on it", naturally I went for a deek, to find a =
Ser 1 with a "for sale" sticker on it
Best Cheers

Frank
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From: "M. Tompkins" <mmglass@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:28:26 -0500
Subject: Re: Waving 

Rarely see a series rover in my neck of the woods
- central Maryland near I-95 (Ellicott City).

Get more waves from people that try to give themselves
whiplash after taking a second look at someone in a
right-hand drive vehicle. A few people will approach me
in a parking lot to ask a few questions. Lots of times I see
people walk out of their way to make a few laps around
her to admire her beauty. More often than not, I usually
wait until they move on before getting in and driving off.

I certainly get many more waves from RR owners than
those in a Disco. I still try to wave to any LR I see.
Although I am wondering why I even try waving at a
Disco. When I see another series vehicle, which I
haven't in months, I am almost climbing out of the window
to wave. Wish I was back in the UK so I can be driving
down one of those roads where I could be in a 'convoy'.

Cheers - Mike
'66 109" Hybrid Coiler SW - 'No Chance'
http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Trails/6623/
http://pw1.netcom.com/~mmglass/index.html
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/8365/

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From: kevin.murphy@ps.ge.com
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:09:31 -0500
Subject: RE: Waving (was American Safari)

Chris,

I stopped waving at other LR owners (even if they WERE driven by cute girls)
because they generally looked at me in my SIIA with that confused,
glazed-over facial expression that was clearly asking the question "why is
that person in that old Jeep waving at me?"  So, I then incorporated the
same policy that the US Navy uses regarding "waving" at sea... you wave
first, and then I'll wave back.

Murph
'67 IIA 88"

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From: "Jeff and Chris Jackson" <jcjcj88@email.msn.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:51:24 -0800
Subject: Re: Re: Missing on cylinders #1 and #3

I fought and fought and finally figured out that three of the
four new Champion plugs were bad.
Don't overlook the obvious.
Cheers.

Tom Rowe
Atlanta, GA

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From: James Wolf <J.Wolf@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:55:53
Subject: RE: Grease

>I believe the proper lube for both types is gear lube (90W or whatever the
>:multivis calls itself). I think the main point of the grossly overpriced
>:sachets is just a more convenient method of getting the lube ino the joint.
>I am not sure what rover are selling in handy tubes, but it is not 90W.
>It is something closer to grease.

I still bet that it's just common garden varity CV joint grease 8^). After
all a cv is a cv is a cv right? So, same kind of lubrication!

Jim Wolf

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From: "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:51:26 -1000
Subject: Re: Range Rover shimmy

>. We
>have noticed that this happens only after hitting a bump or ridge in the
>pavement which goes on an angle to the vehicle. And it seems to happen
>more frequently at speeds of 55 mph or more, although it has on occasion
>occurred at slower speeds.

This sounds almost like an alignment problem.  Speciffically . . . Castor
angle is too great.  But may also be toed-out too  much.  Problem is, these
problems cause more of a drifing or vaugness in the wheel after bumps and
ridges.  As far as a shimmy, I assume you mean a shaking.  Shaking comes
from a component being out of spec ei. badly worn tires, tires out of
balance, broken belt in tire, warped rim, out of round rim.

Where do you feel the 'shimmy'?  in the wheel, in your feet, or in your
seat?
Pete

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From: Marc-Andre Leger <ma.leger@wefa.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:55:14 -0500
Subject: Re: Waving in RHD

I get the same thing when I drive my RHD Lightweight... It seems to blow
peoples mind to see a RHD in the USA.

People have stopped me at lights to ask about it, started conversations in
mall parking lots, etc... I got a lot of nice people with LR stories that
start talking to me at stop signs... even pedestrians. Also the Police often
follow me to look, but never stopped me...

Personally, I love it...

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From: "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:09:19 -1000
Subject: Re: rainex / glare

>It's flat laminate fer chrissake, how expensive can that be?
>Best Cheers

10$ per square foot last time I got some from a glass shop.  Never
understood why people would spend 100+ and shipping for windows from parts
houses in this country.
Pete

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From: urbncby@sgi.net (Scott C. Wickham Jr.)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:09:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: starter

>And Just to stir the pot of your discontent, you didn't need to take the
>exhaust
>pipe off in the first place. The stater can be removed without that hassle even
>on a lefthand drive it is possible Have another nice day :)

  You do if your running a header.  My SIII had one when I got it, it must
be removed for the starter to come out.  BTW, made a cool heat shield for
the starter out of an old coffee can and hose clamped it to the end of the
starter!

  Scott Wickham
  Ser III 'Sherman'

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From: "M. Tompkins" <mmglass@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:42:21 -0500
Subject: Re: Range Rover shimmy

mary freeman wrote:

> Help!
> We have a problem with our 1990 Range Rover County which has baffled our
> area Land Rover dealer/garage.
> We noticed a severe shimmy at highway speed which causes the steering
> wheel to shake violently until we slow down to about 35 mph or less. We

<snipped>

As always, start with the simple things. I'm sure the dealer has already
checked tire balance and alignment. Being those are sound. I'd check for
worn bushings. Had similar symptoms with my LR but mostly at slower
speeds and quite pronounced when braking. Not sure what it looks
like under your RR but I think it is similar to my hybrid coiler. On mine
it was worn bushings in the panhard rod. Could also be bushings in the
radius arms. Fairly easy to check both of these. Panhard Rod - grab
it and try to move it up and down and back and forth. If any play then
the bushings need replacing. Radius Arms - insert a large screwdriver
along side of the arm and use it as a lever to move the arm. Watch the
bushings if they don't flex and return with the arm then they need
replacing.
Only had to replace the panhard rod bushings on mine. During regular
oil changes I check mine all the time now.

Good Luck,
Mike
'66 109" Hybrid Coiler SW - 'No Chance'
http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Trails/6623/
http://pw1.netcom.com/~mmglass/index.html
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/8365/

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From: "Anwar Hussein" <CJKARH@arcochem.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:48:45 +0700
Subject: Clutch Problem

Dear fellows,

I very appreciate to anyone who can advice me for my SIII 1974 clutch
problem. I was in steering and brakes reconditioning, then I was not caring
about my clutch for about 2.5 months not in use.

When I finished with my steering and brakes, I realize that my clutch could
not work properly even though I have kicked down-deep the pedal repeatedly
its still too hard to enggage to the 1st gear,
neither the rest.

I was very confused with the system, I have treated the top and below
master, but it still does not work well. Does my clutch possible glued to
the flywheel and make it won't move vice-versa ? Or is there anything else
that could make the clutch won"t move easily afterwards ?

Thanks to all. Best of luck.

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From: David Scheidt <david@infocom.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:30:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Clutch Problem

On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, Anwar Hussein wrote:

:I was very confused with the system, I have treated the top and below
:master, but it still does not work well. Does my clutch possible glued to
:the flywheel and make it won't move vice-versa ? Or is there anything else
:that could make the clutch won"t move easily afterwards ?

I don't know about on the SIII, but on the SII, it is quite easy to put
the slave cylinder on the wrong side of the mounting bracket.  If you do
this, the push rod won't disengage the clutch.  The pushrod also has a
length adjustment, check that it is right.  Assuming that you haven't done
something like that, get under the truck and check all the fiddley bits of
the linkage for misassembly, and slop.  Get some to work the pedal slowly
while you watch the linkage.  Everything should move smoothly, with no
bits starting to move long before the pieces they move start.  One of
things that happens to the linkage is that holes that are supposed to be
circular become oval.  A small amount of this makes a huge difference in
how the clutch works.   

It is possible that your clutch is rusted to the flywheel.  Unless you
live in a very wet climate, or went wading with out the plug, and put it
away wet, I wouldn't expect it to have had enough time.  

David

Hey, Dr. Russ!  Is there something you aren't telling us?  I mean, we have
seen a large number of stuck clutch problems lately.

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From: "David and Cynthia Walker" <wahooadv@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:35:15 -0800
Subject: Re: Waving in RHD

One of my favorite RHD experiences occurred while living in the Bay Area.  I
would have Orca, my 120 LB. Newfoundland in the LHD seat and after crossing
one of the many toll bridges in the area, the mindless toll taker would
reach out for the toll and get a big lick.  The stun factor was always set
on high.

Cindi Walker

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From: Russ Wilson <rwwilson@mho.net>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:05:30 -0700
Subject: waves

I've found that since I've become engaged I've been getting waves from more
attractive women.  More as in better looking and in greater numbers.
Hmmmmmm  what a strange and unfair world.....  Naturally I still wave back,
just to be polite.

Russ Wilson
Leslie Bittner

"That's just my opinion; I could be wrong...."
				Dennis Miller

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From: Jeff Goldman <roverboy@gis.net>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:51:05 -0500
Subject: Re: Range Rover shimmy

At 02:02 PM 1/13/99 -0600, you wrote:
>Help!
>We have a problem with our 1990 Range Rover County which has baffled our
>area Land Rover dealer/garage. 
>We noticed a severe shimmy at highway speed which causes the steering

  You would get a better response from the RRO/CSO on something like this,
but the usual suspects are worn bushes, worn dampers, and a worn steering
damper. Our 1991 had pretty bad front end shimmy over bumps at highway
speeds, but it all went away when I installed a new set of Old Man Emu
shocks and a Bilstein steering damper.
  That's not to say it couldn't be something like bad geometry or worn
swivel housings... If your Rover hasn't been re-shocked in some time that's
the most likely culprit. Good luck!

Jeff Goldman
Boston, MA
http://www.gis.net/~roverboy

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From: urbncby@sgi.net (Scott C. Wickham Jr.)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:01:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: waves

>I've found that since I've become engaged

  Russ, engaged??  It's about time!

  Scooter

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From: "d.h.lowe" <dhlowe@idirect.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:11:18 -0500
Subject: Re: Range Rover shimmy

It sounds like your swivel hubs have lost their preload. Tell your garage
,who do not appear to be too swift, to remove a shim or two from the top
pins.If they do not seem to understand what you are telling them take it to
another garage or find the nearest friendly Series owner. :-) Time to
fix...... about half an hour.

mary freeman wrote:

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From: "d.h.lowe" <dhlowe@idirect.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:36:16 -0500
Subject: Re: Cam swap

And if you do opt for new rollers and slides use only genuine parts. I had a
horror story a few years ago when I used non genuine rollers that lasted about 
18
months and ruined a new cam. The shape of the rollers had to be seen to be
believed.and the cam was destroyed.

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From: "Andy Grafton" <andyg@sherco.co.za>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:02:00 +0200
Subject: Re: Range Rover shimmy

> We noticed a severe shimmy at highway speed which causes the steering

Make sure they checked;

Attachment of drop arm to steering box (big bolt).
Attachment of steering actuation horns to fron hubs (?4 bolts)
Steering damper (tightness and operation).
Ball joints on steering rods.
Swivel bearings and the pins that locate into these bearings in the 
front hubs.

The swivel bearings may be the culprit if everything obvious has 
been changed/examined.

You might try swapping tyres front to back.  I had a bad shimmy 
with perfectly balanced wheels, which turned out to be a problem 
with one tyre.  Changed the tyre and no more problems - I never 
found out what was wrong with it.

Hope this helps,

All the best,

Andy
andyg@sherco.co.za, '79RR

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From: CIrvin1258@aol.com
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 02:39:47 EST
Subject: Re: Waving in RHD[multipart mime alternative 6 lines deleted.]

In a message dated 99-01-13 20:59:26 EST, you write:

<< It seems to blow
 peoples mind to see a RHD in the USA.
 >>

My favorite when I'm in my 109, is to get a double/triple take from somebody
at a traffic light, and if they have their window down, I'll yell out
"Damndest thing happened: I woke up this morning, and found everything on the
other side!", and you should see the reactions I get!

It's great at post offices though - go up to the curbside mailboxes, and I
don't have to get out to drop a letter in, and I have a blast at drive-thru
burger stands!

Charles

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From: CIrvin1258@aol.com
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 02:46:12 EST
Subject: Re: Waving (was American Safari)

In a message dated 99-01-13 18:26:48 EST, you write:

<< I arrived at a family wedding in my 1972 Range Rover some years back, an =
 admiring cousin looked at it (lights on the roof, bullbar, few more =
 mods, no Range Rover badge but plenty of stickers) and said, "Oh, is it =
 one of those Japanese things?" when I said no he said "Well it says =
 Yokohama on the back."
 >>

Wonder what kind of reactions I get, when people look at my rear door, and see
the "Punks not dead" sticker! The SAA received my 109 without any Land Rover
emblem on the rear, so I'd imagine it throws people. Never had an emblem on
the rear of it at all - no holes, no filled-in holes - nothing. Strange: makes
me wonder where it's been, and what it did. Grille is black, what's left of
the bumper (I cut off the r.h. corner accident damage, so I could drive it -
if I have to) is also black, and the rest if desert sand.

Charles

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From: "Anwar Hussein" <CJKARH@arcochem.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:55:20 +0700
Subject: Re: Clutch Problem

Hi David,

thanks to yr kindly advice, I'll try to see what's wrong underneath my Bell
Housing. Anyway, once again thanks, I'll check it out whether that will
works properly or not, I don't wanna push my luck !!!

Regards.

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From: Olafur Agust Axelsson <olafura@ti.is>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:25:07 +0000
Subject: Re: rain-x

hi!

Someone mentioned Rain-X! - But has anyone tried another product from
the same company called something like Fog-X or Anti-fog?

I thought it was a brilliant idea until I tried it! - It doesnt seem to
work very well - which is a pity because when its raining or snowing I
am having real problems with fog inside my beloved LR

Any ideas what could work? - some homade recipes maybe!!

Olafur Agust

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From: Peter Thoren <Peter.Thoren@genetik.uu.se>
Date: 	Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:41:33 +0100
Subject: Setting the output shaft preload

Dear list,

I seem to have some radial play at the output shaft from the transfercase.
I am about to take off the rear propellershaft, transmission brake and
speedometer housing to check the shims situation. The green bible says the
pre load on the outshaft bearing should be 0.9 to 1.8 kg measured with
spring balance and a piece of cord coiled around the low gear wheel
selector groove. I was hoping to be able to do this with the transfercase
in situ and then I assume this method  would not work. Can I just take away
shims until the radial play is gone or can I measure the preload in any
other way? If it´s necessary I will take the transfercase off but I would
like to do as little work as possible since it is -10C outside and I don´t
have a garage...

Thanks for your comments,

Peter Thorén 
Peter Thoren 
1975 109" SIII Diesel
Member #1379 Swedish Land Rover Club
Långmyrtorp
740 20 Vänge
Sweden
phone/fax +46 18 39 20 56
peter.thoren@genetik.uu.se

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From: "Neil Brownlee" <metal_thrasher@email.msn.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:49:12 -0000
Subject: Re: Waving (was American Safari)

Must admit that driving in convoy is fun Frank! Scares the hell out of the
locals here in Northampton! We convoyed (my 109" is an ex-MOD one, with all
the markings and an aerial tuner) with a Lightweight, an ex-army ambulance
and 5 other 'remarkable' Series vehicles.....turned many a head! I think
they thought we were at war!! Tee Hee!

I do confuse the odd Series owner by flashing them from the Explorer and
then remembering that THEY don't KNOW I own a 109". Will have to put a big
badge on the Explorer : 'My Other 4x4 is a REAL 4x4' !!!!! And one for the
109" : 'My Other 4x4 Isn't'!!!!!!!!!

Ho Ho Ho! Oh well, not that anyone will care...rover content = nil, thanks
to all who helped me try and track down the fault on the Explorer, she's
almost okay now thank god. It was in for a week at the dealers while they
replaced a whole load of stuff. It only has a slight grind when turning
right now (at low speed, NOT on full lock). The dealer said it was a
characteristic, but a friend of mine who is a Land Rover mechanic said he
had seen/heard this with LR products, and it was to do with the power
steering fluid....any light to shed?

Neil

Series III 109"

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From: SFmms@aol.com
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 05:28:27 EST
Subject: RE: Zenith carb redundant hole fix

Marin Faure wrote:

<< There are also instructions on the web somewhere for plugging the offending
orifice in the carburetor, the one that lets the fuel bypass the jets. >>

This would be on the British Pacific web site under tech tips.  I just used a
piece of Viton O-ring of the appropriate cross section for this. Everything is
just as Marin describes, not much I can add, having been through the same type
of problems with my Zenith carb. Be careful to bend only the center tang on
the float assembly which contacts the needle valve to give the required 33mm
distance to the top of the floats, when adjusting the float setting. The
distance is measured from the top surface of the gasket BTW. Make sure both
floats are at the same distance and that you do not twist the arms where the
floats are attached. 

I finished my carb rebuild very recently and my '74 SIII would pass smog (it
is due now, only two more times and I am exempt). However just this past
weekend, my 23 year old throttle return spring broke and now it seems as if
the throttle plate got bodged up, so I will get very familiar with this
particular carb. 

Oh well, "it's never over in a Rover".

Karen Sindir
'74 SIII 88 Red Rufy
'95 Disco EFE

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From: "Andy Grafton" <andyg@sherco.co.za>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:03:13 +0200
Subject: Re: rain-x

Olafur wrote;

> Any ideas what could work? - some homade recipes maybe!!

Long ago I was told to slice a potato in half and rub it on the 
outside of the windscreen if my wipers failed.  I was also told that 
the potato trick would prevent fogging up inside a dive mask...  idea 
being rub potato and rinse.

Haven't tried either but if you want to try it it won't break the bank...

How's that for home made?

All the best,

Andy
andyg@sherco.co.za, '79RR

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From: "Bishop, Alan" <A.Bishop@worc.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:01:31 +0000
Subject: Chassis swap

Well in theory the strip and rebuild of the S3 should start very 
soon - how long have I said that for!

The question is the old one about tax exemption. As it's a '74, and 
therefore will never by tax exempt in the UK, I am considering 
building it back up on a S2A rolling chassis. Obviously if it's a 
log booked chassis I can register the vehicle on that log book - 
right? What if there is no log book and some has used the chassis 
number on a new galvanised chassis? Is there a way around this? Can 
you re-register as age related?

Obviously it would have to be a good chassis but I have seen a 
couple ready and rolling for about 300ukp. To me it would make sense 
to rebuild up this way and then sell the S3 chassis afterwards. Is 
there something I am missing or is this possible?

TIA
Alan.

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