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1 Philip and Aimee Houser 29Dipstick heater - 220v (Re: Block Heaters)
2 "Con P. Seitl" [conseitl22Re: Head Trauma
3 "Neil Brownlee" [metal_t13Weber carb
4 TeriAnn Wakeman [twakema28Re: Head Trauma
5 Alan_Richer@motorcity2.l16Re: Virtual bartender...
6 "Neil Brownlee" [metal_t16Re: Head Trauma
7 Paul Oxley [paul@adventu21Re: Weber carb
8 David Scheidt [david@inf16Re: Weber carb
9 "Neil Brownlee" [metal_t11Re: Weber carb
10 "Neil Brownlee" [metal_t10Re: Weber carb
11 William Leacock [wleacoc20Transfer gear changing.
12 TeriAnn Wakeman [twakema30Re: Head Trauma
13 Dale Smith [smithd@bunt.19Re: Virtual bartender...
14 Dale Smith [smithd@bunt.7[not specified]
15 Paul Lonsdale [Lonsdale@21Re: head injuries (was oxen) (was ball j
16 Russ Wilson [rwwilson@mh19Re: Weber carb
17 "James G.Wolf" [elvenwoo21RE:bull bars
18 Peter Venters [peter@hoi35Series 1s and Isuzus
19 IBEdwardp@aol.com 18Re: Weber carb
20 "d.h.lowe" [dhlowe@idire15Re: head injuries (was oxen) (was ball j
21 John Cranfield [john.cra11Re: head injuries (was oxen) (was ball j
22 john hess [jfhess@dcn.da26front drive flanges
23 GElam30092@aol.com 31Re: TAW Picture
24 "Wise Owl Innovation Inc41Re: Series 1s and Isuzus
25 "K. John Wood" [jwrover@21Re: Land Rovers are y2k compliant
26 "david hope" [davidjhope22Early Series llA Breakfast, radiator panel
27 John Cranfield [john.cra11Re: Early Series llA Breakfast, radiator panel
28 "Peter Hope" [phope@hawa12Re: Early Series llA Breakfast, radiator panel
29 DNDANGER@aol.com 17Re: Early Series llA Breakfast, radiator panel
30 Bill Caloccia [caloccia@22yahoo subscribers...
31 Axel Haakonsen [haakona@18Oh no, not another personal homepage!!!!
32 Joseph Broach [jbroach@s25Re: Early Series llA Breakfast, radiator panel
33 DNDANGER@aol.com 22Re: Sighting
34 "The Becketts" [hillman@31Anti-seize
35 DNDANGER@aol.com 20Re: Compression readings
36 DNDANGER@aol.com 26Re: Clutch
37 Steve Fullwood [ansdf@TT37Not Infant worthy
38 DNDANGER@aol.com 13Re: Weber carb
39 jimfoo@uswest.net 26Re:Not Not Infant worthy
40 DNDANGER@aol.com 23Re: Not Infant worthy
41 Todd Schlemmer [nullman@29Re: Not Infant worthy
42 Paul Oxley [paul@adventu24Re: Not Not Infant worthy
43 Harald Hansen [harald74@33Re: Head Trauma
44 M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (M19Re: Glow plugs, again...
45 M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (M13Re: first start - diesel
46 Mick Forster [cmtmgf@mai36Re: Not Not Infant worthy
47 M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (M16Re: oxen (was ball joint)
48 Paul Oxley [paul@adventu20Re: oxen (was ball joint)
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From: Philip and Aimee Houser <pahouser@fidnet.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:00:33 -0600
Subject: Dipstick heater - 220v (Re: Block Heaters)

If you really want to operate a 110 heater on 220, wire a single diode in
series with the heater.  1/2 the wave, 1/2 the power.

			Philip,
			no LR  :(

=When I was in Alaska I saw some great heat mats which people glue /tape
=/ fix onto the oil pan and battery to keep them warm - I even saw one
=wrapped around the bottom hose to the radiator. They have core heaters
=too, though i don't know if these will fit a rover engine. But what
=about a dipstick heater - they have those in the US too.
=
=I saw these at either fred Meyer's or Sears.
=
=Pity they wont work on 220 volts over here (well i could wire two in
=series?)
=
=Go for the dipstick heater and a battery pad if you cant get a core
=heater to fit.
=
=Good luck!
=
=Adrian Redmond

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From: "Con P. Seitl" <conseitl@sprint.ca>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 08:35:26 -0400
Subject: Re: Head Trauma

Paul Oxley wrote:
>.
> me dropping a brick on her head when we
> were building our house - it was an accident, I swear it was!), 
.sure it was.....my wife was also thrown from a runaway horse, while
pregnant! (She, not the horse) However, she loves the RR and loves to
see someone else driving the Series. The resultant child has his own LR
and he likes the outdoors. Me, I got a severe blow to the 'ead from
diving off a diving board. Springing off the board, doing a backwards
flip, and keeping the distance from the board to a minimum on entry to
the water. A wee bit of a misjudge and WHACK! Was pulled from the water
unconscious.....yeah, I really love those rovers, and deep holes.

Con Seitl
1973 III 88 "Pig"
1991 RR "hers"

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From: "Neil Brownlee" <metal_thrasher@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:19:55 -0000
Subject: Weber carb

A complete stranger gave me a new weber carb today....very much a surprise,
as I'd been thinking of changing/rebuilding the stock zenith. I will fit the
weber, but has anyone come across any obvious problems?

Neil

Series III 2.25 petrol 1978

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 99 06:28:34 -0800
Subject: Re: Head Trauma

I have never had any physical head trauma.  But on the other hand, I have 
never claimed to be very good at this sanity thing.

However, I have always had this fascination with "things" that were 
designed to do something very well in a simple elegant way.  I'm also 
drawn to "things" with charisma.  Sorry but I just HAD to touch the 
Rosetta stone when I saw it in the museum.

Series Land Rovers were designed to be a farm workhorse.  So when I got 
into livestock in '77 I just had to have a Land Rover to help me with the 
animals.  The design is simple.  It does it's intended mission very well. 
 There is an elegant conservation of technology that fits the car to it's 
intended roles better than the modern technoboxes could ever dream of 
doing.

There is also more charisma in a series Land Rover lug nut than in any of 
the new 4WD mini vans that are being passed off as SUVs these days.

TeriAnn
"Elegant conservation of technology and simplicity of line is a 
technological art form"
Therefore series Land Rovers are an example of high art.

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 09:31:24 -0500
Subject: Re: Virtual bartender...

How about Nigel O'Leary....:-)
Smitty

No, British, not Irish.

I propose Nigel Lucas.....

Call up all the demons at once.....8*)

               ajr

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From: "Neil Brownlee" <metal_thrasher@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:34:32 -0000
Subject: Re: Head Trauma

TeriAnn,

I haven't been catching up on all the list messages recentlry, but can you
tell us who sent  your piccy in to LRO yet? My friend sent a rebuild story
in 2 years ago, and they only printed it 2-3 months ago.......(it was the
100" hybrid with the Chevy engine...it is a BEAST!)

Are you sure you didn't send it in - years ago???

Neil

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From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 17:09:40 +0200
Subject: Re: Weber carb

Neil Brownlee wrote:
> A complete stranger gave me a new weber carb today....very much a surprise,
> as I'd been thinking of changing/rebuilding the stock zenith. I will fit the
> weber, but has anyone come across any obvious problems?

Neil, this sounds like a scam to me. Take the Weber to your nearest UPS
or Fedex office and send it to Box 838 Melville, 2109, South Africa.
Only by doing this can you avoid the possible disastrous consequences of
this "gift".
 
Regards

Paul Oxley
http://AfricanAdrenalin.co.za
http://Adventures.co.za

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From: David Scheidt <david@infocom.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 10:20:13 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Weber carb

:Neil Brownlee wrote:
:> A complete stranger gave me a new weber carb today....very much a surprise,
:> as I'd been thinking of changing/rebuilding the stock zenith. I will fit the
:> weber, but has anyone come across any obvious problems?

Check the floats and make sure it is jetted correctly.  These carbs get
used on all sorts of things, and if it isn't set up for a Land-Rover out
of the box, you will have all sorts of problem.

David

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From: "Neil Brownlee" <metal_thrasher@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:21:44 -0000
Subject: Re: Weber carb

Paul,

Nice try! I guess this stranger did me a favour then?

Neil

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From: "Neil Brownlee" <metal_thrasher@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:23:24 -0000
Subject: Re: Weber carb

David,

It was used on a LR before, according to the guy who gave me it, only the
last owner switched to a diesel just after buying it.....still it was FREE

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From: William Leacock <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 11:54:52 -0500
Subject: Transfer gear changing.

I have been away in the Uk for a few days so have missed some of the
background to this discussion, it is easy to change from hi to low on the
move, it does however require the locking up of all the wheels and making
the change quickly.
 My ser 2 has the option of changing from 4 to 2 or 2 to 4 in hi ratio on
the move, simply by de clutching and changing a lever. 
This requires some mods to the front output shaft gearbox. The cross linkage
between the hi low and the 2 / 4 select shafts must be removed and a lever
fitted to the end of the 2/4 wheel drive selctor shaft. It is possible to
add an arrangement to the end of the case so that 4 wheel must be selected
before low ratio is selected using only a single lever, or two levers can be
used, one for hi low and one for 2 or 4 wheel drive.
Bill Leacock  ( Limey in exile ) NY USA.
 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR 

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 99 09:08:12 -0800
Subject: Re: Head Trauma

>TeriAnn
>I haven't been catching up on all the list messages recentlry, but can you
;>tell us who sent  your piccy in to LRO yet?

I have not seen the reader's rig piece.  I haven't a clue who did it but 
I guess it was within the last year and a half.  My car was repainted 
early Aug 1997.

;>Are you sure you didn't send it in - years ago???

Positive.  If I did I would have spelled my name correctly and I would 
have gotten the facts correct.  I understand that the picture is from the 
back.  I would have sent in a side picture. 

Clueless in Santa Cruz

TeriAnn Wakeman               If you send me direct mail, please
Santa Cruz, California        start the subject line with TW - 
twakeman@cruzers.com           I will be sure to read the message

http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman   

"How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare"
Amelia Earhart 1898-1937

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From: Dale Smith <smithd@bunt.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 18:42:12 +0100
Subject: Re: Virtual bartender...

How about Nigel O'Leary....:-)
Smitty

No, British, not Irish.
I propose Nigel Lucas.....
Call up all the demons at once.....8*)
               ajr

Good point, I was just trying to keep the Guiness drinkers happy..:-)
I guess you could drop the O', and really spell it out.
Nigel Lucas Leary, or they could always be twins...:-0
LR content, what is the usual culprit for a bouncing tach?
Smitty

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From: Paul Lonsdale <Lonsdale@compuserve.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 13:15:31 -0500
Subject: Re: head injuries (was oxen) (was ball j

D.h.lowe,

<< I was about one year old ,in my large wheeled pram (omen) ,with the "hood" 
up, >>

 Would that be a leaf-sprung or coil-sprung pram ??
 
Paul

Ex- H.M. Coastguard SIII SWB
"Dougal Mc Landie"
B895 OJT (1984)
(Navy Blue with a Yellow Roof)

 

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From: Russ Wilson <rwwilson@mho.net>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 00:16:11 -0700
Subject: Re: Weber carb

>David,
>It was used on a LR before, according to the guy who gave me it, only the
>last owner switched to a diesel just after buying it.....still it was FREE

Buy the guy who gave it to you a Guinness or two and enjoy driving a much
improved rover.  The Weber I have has given me no problems after fighting
and swearing at a Zenith for two years.  Good luck.

Russ Wilson
Leslie Bittner

"That's just my opinion; I could be wrong...."
				Dennis Miller

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From: "James G.Wolf" <elvenwood@whro.net>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 13:26:17 -0500
Subject: RE:bull bars

>even
>>with the animal.  They call em bull bars for a reason.  Revenge delayed
>is
>>revenge intensified.
>Revenge is a dish best served cold, if I'm not greatly mistaken. And I'm
>beginning to see a pattern here; kicked by a mule (in the head) at 12,
>bitten by a mustang at 14, kicked by a Morgan Mare in the stomach at
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 11 lines)]
>a cow at 17. Maybe there's something to this animal abuse/rover ownership
>thing?

DUH, how about "BULL" as in BULLING ONES WAY THROUGH AN OBSTICAL. Do we
have some of these PETA types here on the digest?

Jim Wolf

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From: Peter Venters <peter@hoiho.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 20:21:44 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Series 1s and Isuzus 

Jim Fraser asked whether his 53 80" tranmission will survive the 68hp and
130lbft roque of an Isuzu 2.2l disiesel...

Jim, I can't really say for a pre-54 vehicle, but for what it is worth I
had no trouble with the original transmission on my 55 86" when I put in a
LR 2.25 diesel (67bhp, 125 lbft). And in any case, from what I recall when
I last went round this loop, the only later transmission which is any
stronger is the 2a (the S3 tranmission is weaker cos they crammed in
namby-pamby synchromesh on first and second). 

Since then I've now done about 20-30K miles so far with a well refurbished
2a box suffering under the full onslaught of 85 bhp and 150lbft from a
Perkins 4.182 - so far it all still works. So I'd be inclined to leave
your original transmission alone unless it is already knackered or unless
you are planning on driving at max torque and/or power a lot. After all LR
didnt make any major changes when they put in the terrifyingly powerful
(71bhp) 2.25L petrol. 

And speaking of suffering, when you change the engine you will certainly
notice the increase in engine noise, especially at below "cruising speed" 
- I remember that the 2l petrol in mine was very quiet at low speeds once
I'd got it sorted. 

Good luck, and I bet you never want to go back to petrol once you've made
the change to a proper engine - I wouldn't, no matter how quiet the
tickover is  :-)

Peter
86" 1955 S1 with Perkins 4.182

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From: IBEdwardp@aol.com
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:04:16 EST
Subject: Re: Weber carb

I too am in the process of fitting a Weber 1 bbl. With the adaptor, looks
pretty straight forward except I may do away with the "cold engine" light in
exchange for the Weber supplied "choke on" light. Also since the Webber has a
smaller intake throat, some kind of bushing may be necessary to make the
original oil bath air cleaner work. I've been told that the Webber being
smaller diameter works more efficiently at lower rpm's while the Zenith is
better at the upper end of the rpm scale.  Any truth to this?

Ed Bailey
S2a 88 - Millennium Falcon
(And rhe red retriever "Chewbacca")
Somewhere in East Tennessee

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From: "d.h.lowe" <dhlowe@idirect.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 03:17:26 -0500
Subject: Re: head injuries (was oxen) (was ball j

 Paul    I seem to remember it as a Silver Cross which had leave springs , 
leather
shackles and 18" dia wheels.
      Brought my sons up the same way, in the same type of "pram"

> Cheers.......  Dave.
> << I was about one year old ,in my large wheeled pram (omen) ,with the "hood" 
up, >>
>  Would that be a leaf-sprung or coil-sprung pram ??

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From: John Cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 16:40:24 -0400
Subject: Re: head injuries (was oxen) (was ball j

I thought that no mere "stroller" would be enough for a member of the Lowe 
Clan.:)
John and Muddy

"d.h.lowe" wrote:

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From: john hess <jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 12:46:30 -0700
Subject: front drive flanges

Hi,

Does anyone have a pair of front drive flanges they will sell me?  I have
automatic hubs that disengage(!) when ever power is not applied.  How'd I
find out?  Rear axle shaft broke and while driving home in FWD, I had no
engine braking, just a quiet coasting feeling whever I let off the gas.

I know all about FWHubs and that argument.  I'd like to remove my funny
hubs and go to drive flanges that are always on.  The new ones for sale are
round disks.  Stubby, my 1960 88 has finger shaped extensions that the
mounting bolts go through (6 point snowflake shape).  I would prefer the
finger style if I have a choice.

cna anyone help me out?

John F Hess   jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us
Land Rover Dormobile web pages:
http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html
1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis"  1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby"
1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie"

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From: GElam30092@aol.com
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 16:37:28 EST
Subject: Re: TAW Picture

In a message dated 1/24/99 10:07:52 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
twakeman@cruzers.com writes:

<< I have not seen the reader's rig piece.  I haven't a clue who did it but 
 I guess it was within the last year and a half.  My car was repainted 
 early Aug 1997. >>

It's a mystery easily solved.  I have the magazine.

When at Greek Peak last year, someone from LRO obviously took a lot of
pictures.  Along with that one of TAW, there are three more pictures from GP
in the Readers' Rovers section.  One is of Warren Smith who is the president
of Slippery Rock University, the other is of the guys who had the 101's for
sale and the third is a guy from Canada.  

So, my conclusion is that either James Taylor or the LRO rep from Canada whose
names escapes me for the moment.

TAW is pictured sitting on her rear (er.. the LR's rear tail gate).  She's
looking right at the camera so she knew she was being photographed.... just
didn't have any guesses as to where it would end up!

Cheers,
Gerry Elam
PHX AZ

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From: "Wise Owl Innovation Incorporated" <wiseowl@direct.ca>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:00:15 -0800
Subject: Re: Series 1s and Isuzus 

I think the series I transmission is a bit marginal for this application.
Up to suffix A gearboxes have a very small journal supporting the bearing
at the front of the layshaft and I've seen several break at this point.
Suffix B and C are better but tend to fail by the layshaft retaining ring.
i would look around for a D,E or F with the forged layshaft. Ray

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> From: Peter Venters <peter@hoiho.demon.co.uk>
> To: lro@playground.sun.com
> Subject: Series 1s and Isuzus 
> Date: Sunday, January 24, 1999 12:21 PM
> Jim Fraser asked whether his 53 80" tranmission will survive the 68hp and
> 130lbft roque of an Isuzu 2.2l disiesel...

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 11 lines)]
> Jim, I can't really say for a pre-54 vehicle, but for what it is worth I
> had no trouble with the original transmission on my 55 86" when I put in
a
> LR 2.25 diesel (67bhp, 125 lbft). And in any case, from what I recall
when
> I last went round this loop, the only later transmission which is any
> stronger is the 2a (the S3 tranmission is weaker cos they crammed in
> namby-pamby synchromesh on first and second). 
> Since then I've now done about 20-30K miles so far with a well
> Jim Fraser asked whether his 53 80" tranmission will survive the 68hp and
refurbished
> 2a box suffering under the full onslaught of 85 bhp and 150lbft from a
> Perkins 4.182 - so far it all still works. So I'd be inclined to leave
> your original transmission alone unless it is already knackered or unless
> you are planning on driving at max torque and/or power a lot. After all
LR
> didnt make any major changes when they put in the terrifyingly powerful
> (71bhp) 2.25L petrol. 
> And speaking of suffering, when you change the engine you will certainly
> notice the increase in engine noise, especially at below "cruising speed"

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From: "K. John Wood" <jwrover@colo-net.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:49:30 -0700
Subject: Re: Land Rovers are y2k compliant

Ya' Know TerriAnn,

Just because you are some sort of Land Rover Icon in the USA now doesn't mean
that you should belittle the questions of other listers! Those poor suppy
pups are just triing to make certain that their new Series toy is going to be
OK!

By the way great little clip on you and the machine in LRO. Congrats! I hope
to be able to trail with you one day. I've heard quite a bit about you and
your rig from Russ Wilson (also a Dormy Freak!). I hope you know I was just
kidding above. I am astounded at some of the questions that hit the list!

John Wood

TeriAnn Wakeman wrote:

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From: "david hope" <davidjhope@email.msn.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 19:44:30 -0600
Subject: Early Series llA Breakfast, radiator panel

Why does the right side hole in my radiator panel (the left side of the
radiator panel as you look at it from the front of the vehicle) have it's
own fine mesh screen which is neatly held in place with two screws?  There
isn't one protecting the other side.  I'm curious whether this is a standard
piece or not.

I realize that this is a petty question and some of you are wondering who
cares, hasn't this guy got a life or some such sensible thoughts.

Well, I am three years into Land Rover ownership.  At first I didn't care
either - but the more I get to understand these machines the more fascinated
I become about all these small design issues.  So, if you know the answer I
would love to know.  Why does the right hole need it's own mesh screen?

David Hope
64llA  (LHD Station Wagon built for US market)

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From: John Cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 21:53:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Early Series llA Breakfast, radiator panel

It probably had a Kodiac heater which took its air from the front. It is about
the right age for that version.
John and Muddy

david hope wrote:

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From: "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 15:49:15 -1000
Subject: Re: Early Series llA Breakfast, radiator panel

>So, if you know the answer I
>would love to know.  Why does the right hole need it's own mesh screen?

Isn't that were the airintake for the heater runs to?  On some models at
least?
Pete

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From: DNDANGER@aol.com
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 21:27:13 EST
Subject: Re: Early Series llA Breakfast, radiator panel

In a message dated 99-01-24 20:53:43 EST, you write:

 Isn't that were the airintake for the heater runs to?  On some models at
 least?
 Pete
  >>
Yes, it had a large diameter wire reinforced fabric tube that ran right under
the battery support. needless to say its life span is somewhat limited.

Bill Lawrence
Albq, NM

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From: Bill Caloccia <caloccia@senie.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:16:03 -0500
Subject: yahoo subscribers...

OK, I think I've got it.

In case you hadn't noticed, posts from yahoo were mostly getting dropped.

This was because of lots of spam coming in with yahoo return addresses.

Before this affected only a couple people, now it affects about a dozen.
I'm in the process of modifing things so that once per week the kill 
lists will be re-generated with exceptions for list subscribers
with yahoo addresses, and yahoo addresses will show up in the digest.

I've also modified the real-time scripts, so those messages should get
through in real time also.

Cheers,
-Bill

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From: Axel Haakonsen <haakona@superlink.net>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:36:53 -0500
Subject: Oh no, not another personal homepage!!!!

Broke down and bought a scanner last weekend, and decided to jump on the

bandwagon and create a homepage:

http://mars.superlink.net/haakona/index.html

It is still a work in progress, but I have posted pictures and a trip
report from my
recent trip to Moab in Nov/Dec 98.

Axel Haakonsen, NJ USA
97 Disco

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From: Joseph Broach <jbroach@selway.umt.edu>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 20:57:11 -0700
Subject: Re: Early Series llA Breakfast, radiator panel

<< Why does the right side hole in my radiator panel (the left side of the
radiator panel as you look at it from the front of the vehicle) have it's
own fine mesh screen which is neatly held in place with two screws?  There
isn't one protecting the other side.  I'm curious whether this is a standard
piece or not. >>

I have one as well, and mine's in use! A 4" hose clamps onto the back, goes
under the batt. tray and then attaches to the blower motor for my Kodiak
(not sure which "Mark"). This Kodiak has a fat cube of a core inside the
passenger footwell and the blower fan in the engine bay It bolts through
the holes where the RHD pedal boxes would be. It's a great heater by the
way, what's in your's now?

 *************************************
* joseph and sidney		      *
* missoula, mt			      *
* curator of the "Series Shed"        *
* http://jbroach.interspeed.net/rover *
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From: DNDANGER@aol.com
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:43:30 EST
Subject: Re: Sighting

In a message dated 99-01-21 22:12:14 EST, you write:

 One of my drivers saw a SWB in Columbus, GA with New Mexico plates. (I
 guess its an 88", he said that it was a little shorter than mine!) Isn't
 this a son of someone on the list?
 
 --
 Winn Bearden
 P.O. Box 464     >>

Yes, that's my #4 son Jason. He's a good kid but a little ignorant of
mechanical matters (only temporarily if he keeps the Rover) so if you see him
broken down somewhere please have mercy. Later

Bill Lawrence
Albq, NM

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From: "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:15:14 +1100
Subject: Anti-seize

Frank Elson wrote:
>get some on your overalls, wash them (really!) and it remains, ....
>it just repels water, and it's the water sliding down the threads
>that makes them rust.....

At the expense of upsetting you Series owners....

For the past 27 years with my alloy-head Hillman I've only ever used engine
oil on the plug threads and never had any problems so I used the same
method with the Rangie until recently.

On the last but one spark plug change, I tried anti-seize on the spark
plugs in my alloy-headed Rangie.

Bad idea.  I had hell's own trouble getting the plugs out and really was
worried I was going to strip the threads in the cylinder heads.

I've gone back to using oil on the plugs.

Regards,
Ron Beckett
'86 Range Rover 4.6L
Webmaster Hillman Owners Club of Australia
Webmaster Land Rover Owners Club of Australia (Sydney Branch)
check my web site http//www.users.bigpond.com/hillman

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From: DNDANGER@aol.com
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 00:28:02 EST
Subject: Re: Compression readings

In a message dated 99-01-23 13:57:04 EST, you write:

<<  A first step
 will be to dribble Marvel Mystery Oil in the bores and run it regularly to
 see how it behaves. My mechanic for the "daily" car swears by Bon Ami
 non-abrasive cleansing powder sprinkled in the air intake with the engine
 running to clean things up >>

If the engine is running well leave it alone. (If it ain't broke don't fix
it.) and don't let anyone talk you into intentionally putting any solid
material into an engine running or not. 

Bill Lawrence
Albq, NM

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From: DNDANGER@aol.com
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 00:41:11 EST
Subject: Re: Clutch

In a message dated 99-01-23 14:47:27 EST, you write:

 Lately when I'm starting out, it almost seems as if my clutch is
 slipping. I can give it some gas, pop the clutch, and it releases just a
 little slower than I would release it normally. What I think is
 happening is that the mechanism is getting gummed up. What is the best
 way to clean things up, hopefully without having to remove the tranny? I
 also recently rebuilt the clutch mc, but I think it was doing it before
 the rebuild although I'm not sure. Any other possibilities I've
 overlooked? Thanks. >>

Before you go to all that trouble make sure the clutch linkage is adjusted
properly. There should be a certain amount of clearance between the push rod
and the mc piston. (it's in the book) Without clearance the piston may block
the fluid return port in the mc and the clutch may act as though it is worn
out. As a further downside the force on the piston will cause it to wear the
upper portion of the mc bore and eventually ruin the cylinder. Good luck.

Bill Lawrence
Albq, NM

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From: Steve Fullwood <ansdf@TTACS.TTU.EDU>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 23:43:27 -0600
Subject: Not Infant worthy

Well....... the wife says there is no way the baby is riding in the 1961
SII
88".  I suppose it would not be the smoothest  vehicle for a baby.
Since I
have to have a vehicle I can drive the baby around in safely I decided
to
get another vehicle.  So today I went out and bought a 1992 Volvo 940
(not
many cars out there that are safer).  My friend said I may have gone a
little overboard but I had no intention of buying a Volvo it was just
the
right car at the right price.  Anyone out there with any Volvo
experience?
It looks like the old LR may not get very much use after the baby but I
figure when he (read...future LR nut) gets older I can rig something for
a
child seat.

    The real question:

    Does anyone out there have any info on toddlers and series LR?  Have
any
of you mounted a baby seat in a 88.  Since it is a 88 I am limited I
feel to
the front.  I dont feel to comfortable about the rear bench.  I need
some
good ammo for the wife so any suggestion would be great.

Thanks again,
Steve Fullwood
1961 SII 88" basic

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From: DNDANGER@aol.com
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 01:05:28 EST
Subject: Re: Weber carb

In a message dated 99-01-24 09:20:46 EST, you write:

 A complete stranger gave me a new weber carb today....very much a surprise,

Didn't your mother tell you not to accept gifts from strangers?

Bill Lawrence

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From: jimfoo@uswest.net
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 23:11:48 -0700
Subject: Re:Not Not Infant worthy

A friend of mine went 4-wheeling with his son a couple of times in his
88. The childs age is somewhere between 18 mo and 2 years. The kid kept
saying "more bumps, more bumps". He does have parabolics on it however.
A picture of John and his son Alec can be seen at:
http://silverstone.fortunecity.com/cowley/62/rover2.htm
at the bottom of the page. The third picture down on the right. He had a
child-seat belted into the front passenger seat. This kid will
definately be a rover owner as the first word I ever heard him say was
"Rover", and the fact that he has to sit in the Rover before he goes to
bed.

Steve Fullwood wrote:
=     The real question:
=     Does anyone out there have any info on toddlers and series LR? 
Have any
= of you mounted a baby seat in a 88.  Since it is a 88 I am limited I
feel to
= the front.  I dont feel to comfortable about the rear bench.  I need
some
= good ammo for the wife so any suggestion would be great.

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From: DNDANGER@aol.com
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 01:35:16 EST
Subject: Re: Not Infant worthy

In a message dated 99-01-25 00:46:54 EST, you write:

 Well....... the wife says there is no way the baby is riding in the 1961
 SII
 88".  I suppose it would not be the smoothest  vehicle for a baby.
 Since I
 have to have a vehicle I can drive the baby around in safely >>

Two of my "babies" and I have been in three separate major accidents in series
Land Rovers. The first (mine ) was a low speed endo. #2 son in the same
rebuilt vehicle had a near head-on collision. #4 son rolled his series III
three times after running a red light and being struck in the rear quarter. So
far none of us has recieved a scratch. I don't think you need to look too far
for a safe vehicle, just teach your wife some physics.

Bill Lawrence
Albq, NM 

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From: Todd Schlemmer <nullman@ptinet.net>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:50:53 -0800
Subject: Re: Not Infant worthy

Land Rover is an example of adaptive technology... The crumple zones
engineered into > other < vehicles protect the LR and its occupants.  

What's a volvo S/W weigh?

bboT

At 01:35 AM 1/25/99 EST, you wrote:
>In a message dated 99-01-25 00:46:54 EST, you write:
> Well....... the wife says there is no way the baby is riding in the 1961
> SII
> 88".  I suppose it would not be the smoothest  vehicle for a baby.
> Since I
> have to have a vehicle I can drive the baby around in safely >>

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> have to have a vehicle I can drive the baby around in safely >>
>Two of my "babies" and I have been in three separate major accidents in
series
>Land Rovers. The first (mine ) was a low speed endo. #2 son in the same
>rebuilt vehicle had a near head-on collision. #4 son rolled his series III
>three times after running a red light and being struck in the rear
quarter. So

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From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 08:43:28 +0200
Subject: Re: Not Not Infant worthy

jimfoo@uswest.net wrote:
> A friend of mine went 4-wheeling with his son a couple of times in his
> 88. The childs age is somewhere between 18 mo and 2 years. The kid kept
> saying "more bumps, more bumps". He does have parabolics on it however.

Following on from our severe head trauma thread... my interpretation of
the child's utterings would be that he is complaining about all the
extra bumps he is getting on his noggin from being whiplashed against
the seat back. And, yes, you are quite right in your prediction - given
the already confirmed causal relationship between early childhood head
trauma and L-R ownership - that the child will grow up to be a Rover
owner.
 
Regards

Paul Oxley
http://AfricanAdrenalin.co.za
http://Adventures.co.za

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From: Harald Hansen <harald74@online.no>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:40:01 +0100
Subject: Re: Head Trauma

Hi!

Paul Oxley wrote:
> Peter Hope wrote:
> > Hmm, maybe this is why my wife is ok with my rovers.  She has been kicked,
> > thrown, bit, bucked, etc by horses growing up.
> > Pete
> Hmm, and my wife has also suffered blows to the head (being thrown from
> a runaway horse, tackling a MUCH larger opponent ina varsity soccer
> match - she got a concussion -, me dropping a brick on her head when we
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> were building our house - it was an accident, I swear it was!), and she
> LOVES series Landys.

I sincerely hope that this and other stories will not lead any misguided
souls out there to drop bricks on their spouse's heads...  Remember,
long exposure to LRs work just as well as head trauma, and won't land
you in jail!  ;)

Regards
Harald

-- 
Harald Hansen                       #========#       1976 Land Rover
Student, strategy gamer, LR owner   |___|__|__\___   Series III 109"
E-mail at: harald74@online[DOT]no   |  _|  |   |_ |}  Station Wagon
(Replace the [DOT] with a dot)      ""(_)""""""(_)"

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:47:53 +0000
Subject: Re: Glow plugs, again...

 If I have
>parallell plugs; can I use the old resistor and how should they be
>connected to each other?

Peter,
My heater plugs came in a plastic bag with a appropriate wires and
fitting instructions.Its possible that what you have are the heater
plugs for a later engine.
The Dieselglow heater plugs still use the resistor.They are wired
straight from one plug to the next,and the earth lead on the series
wired plugs is discarded with the parallel wired ones.
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:02:42 +0000
Subject: Re: first start - diesel

. There's a little electricly ignited diesel fuel burner in
>the intake that's fed from the injection pump supply line.
Which is fine until your fuel is waxed....:-(( Although not
such a problem these days.

Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: Mick Forster <cmtmgf@mail.soc.staffs.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:01:59 +0000
Subject: Re: Not Not Infant worthy

jimfoo@uswest.net wrote:
> A friend of mine went 4-wheeling with his son a couple of times in his
> 88. The childs age is somewhere between 18 mo and 2 years. The kid kept
> saying "more bumps, more bumps". 

I had two baby seats and a child seat belts fitted in an 88" a while
back! (1983...) Fortunately I was never involved in a major accident so
I don't know how effective they would have been. But they kept the kids
from being thrown around on camp sites and green lanes.
Talking of which, yesterday we (the good lady and I !!) went for a drive
in the Derbyshire Peak District and took my 82 year old mother along for
the trip intending to just keep to the normal roads and enjoy the
scenery. Clare, the wife, is exceptional at navigating and likes to find
quiet narrow roads to explore. She saw this 'white' road on the Ordnance
Survey map which looked like a bit of a short cut. When we got to it
there was this sign which read "Unsuitable for motors" so we decided
that the Series III 109" Safari wasn't a motor and carried on.
The tarmac gradually gave way to broken hardcore with grass down the
middle and then down a slight incline the hardcore gave way! to muddy
ruts. My mother sitting behind us on the middle seats, with no seat
belt! mumbled something has I plowed through the water at the bottom of
the incline and up the muddy ruts on the other side, I asked her what
she said and she repeated "I like it, I like it". Clare said that she
now knew where I got it from.

Mick Forster
1972 109" Series III Safari 2.25 petrol
1962 88"  Series IIa 2.25 petrol
http://gawain.soc.staffs.ac.uk/~mick/landpics.html
http://members.aol.com/IssyJames/LRlinks/LRlinks.htm

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:17:52 +0000
Subject: Re: oxen (was ball joint)

 The analytical side of me would like to know whether being a
>member of the list AND a L-R owner increases my chances of ABB (Assault
>By Bovine)?

Well if it is,and I was where you are Paul,I'd be dead worried.
I understand the Cape Buffalo is not the most even tempered
beast in the world.......

Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:23:13 +0200
Subject: Re: oxen (was ball joint)

Mike Rooth wrote:
> Well if it is,and I was where you are Paul,I'd be dead worried.
> I understand the Cape Buffalo is not the most even tempered
> beast in the world.......

Oh buff have a very even temper Mike. They wake up in the mornings
psychotic, and go to sleep at night psychotic, no fluctuations
whatsoever.

Regards

Paul Oxley
http://AfricanAdrenalin.co.za
http://Adventures.co.za

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