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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 06:52:58 -0500
Subject: Re: Rear window wiper

Re: Car's the Star:

Dead on - I have the LRO article where QW is going on about the horrid green
Stage1 he bought. Seems a tidy enough motor, though - nice piece of hardware.

                    ajr

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From: Mick Forster <cmtmgf@mail.soc.staffs.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:54:51 +0000
Subject: Re: Making a trailer out of a LR!!

Olafur Agust Axelsson wrote:

> I was wondering!! - I have a SwB s3 hard top that I have to get rid off
> - but I came up with the idea of making a trailer out of him! - That is,
> to use the *drawer* and back-axle and cut the frame in half behind the
> gearbox - and maybe use the roof as a lid on it!!

Two years ago I saw a 109" Series III with a trailer made from an 88".
Imagine cutting through a hard top 88 at the rear of the doors and
putting an A-frame for the towing hitch on front of whats left of the
chasssis, then a panel covering the front of this trailer, the whole rig
looked great painted black with tinted windows.
So, yes it has been done and looks really good, go for it and send us
some pictures, I had ran out of film when I saw this one.

Mick Forster
1972 109" Series III Safari 2.25 petrol 
1963 88" Series IIa 2.25 petrol
http://gawain.soc.staffs.ac.uk/~mick/landpics.html

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From: Mikko Kalevi Lehmusto <mlehmust@hit.fi>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:28:31 +0200
Subject: RE: LR'as trailers

Hello, Olafur!

A friend of mine has used such a setup for some years now. He had an extra
109" rear body lying around, and got the same idea. He didn't use the LR
rear axle, though. He got the rear axle out of a Saab 96-wreck, and
installed larger wheels to it. The Saab axle is a "twisting" tube axle,
and is U-shaped to form "trailing links" for the rear wheels. 

However, my friend turned it vertical and attached it to the LR springs.
That way he got lots of ground clearance under the axle. He uses the
trailer mostly off-road, and says that it's very handy to be able to
reverse the trailer over big rocks and tree stumps when fe. collecting
firewood.  

Of course a more "civilian" setup would be preferable for on-road -use.
But don't they let you register really crazy things up there in Iceland?

Greetings

Mikko Lehmusto
student, Mech. Engineering
FINLAND

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From: "Joost Kramer" <jkramer@best.ms.philips.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:33:54 +0100
Subject: Re: Making a trailer out of a LR!!

>I was wondering!! - I have a SwB s3 hard top that I have to get rid off
>- but I came up with the idea of making a trailer out of him! - That is,
>to use the *drawer* and back-axle and cut the frame in half behind the
>gearbox - and maybe use the roof as a lid on it!!

I was wondering the same. The only two down sides I can imagine is the weight 
of such
trailer and the difficulty to operate the brakes of a normal axle.

Joost

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From: "Tackley, John" <jtackley.dit@state.va.us>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:45:46 -0500
Subject: RE: Making a trailer out of a LR!!

Interesting...So Nigel's Disease applies to great ideas between LROs of
superior intellect as well...cool!
I obtained a wrecked '69 IIA 88 last summer that was hit hard in the left
front.  I salvaged the frame from the rear front spring hangers, rearward.
I first contemplated obtaining a good front frame section and rebuilding.
But the I had a better idea, which of course was to make it into a shortened
88 Trailer.

Plan is to use the rear tub, top and roofsides, with two doors and a
windscreen plus a rear door.  Fabricate a simple bulkhead out of angle and
sheet, then bring the frame together in an "A" to make a tongue.  No seat
box, just flat floor made up from old 'found' road signs, with access via
the original driver's and passenger doors.  Rather than sacrifice the Rover
rear axle, a 3500 lb. trailer axle will be bolted to the springs, perhaps
sans a leaf or 2.

Voila!  An 88 Trailer, complete from the windscreen back.

Larry Smith has offered to participate as co-creator on this project, and
some of the design ideas are his.  Alas, we have as yet not been able to
decide which one of us will get to pull it to the next rally site.
Suggestions from the list members, short of a duel or joust (w/starting
handles!)?

Hmmmmm......So Black with tinted windows looks good....would that be Beluga
Black?

So, Olafur, want to bring your trailer to a rally in Virginia for
comparison?  We could create a new class for competition!

John Tackley
Richmond, VA

>previously....
From: Olafur Agust Axelsson [mailto:olafura@ti.is]
Subject: Making a trailer out of a LR!!
I was wondering!! - I have a SwB s3 hard top that I have to get rid off
- but I came up with the idea of making a trailer out of him! - That is,
Do you have any comments on this? - My main worry was that it would be
to heavy!
Has anyone done this?

Olafur Agust

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From: Peter =?iso-8859-1?Q?Thor=E9n?= <peter.thoren@genetik.uu.se>
Date: 	Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:42:59 +0100
Subject: Re: Gearbox/Diff Question

I am no expert but could it be that you have to much free play at the
intermediate gear in the transfercase? It is easy to check. Just take off
the large, squared lid in the bottom of the transfercase and measure free
play with a feelergauge. If memory serves me right it should be 0.10 to
0.20 mm. If this is to large you just add shims.

Peter

Peter Thorén
1975 LR 109" diesel Stationwagon
member #1379 Swedish Land Rover Club
Långmyrtorp
740 20 Vänge
Sweden

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From: John Cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:23:26 -0400
Subject: Re: Onslo's Hat

Steve Mace wrote:

> My God I didn't know that anyone actually watched that!
> British comedy at it's absolute worst.
> On 9 Feb 99, at 22:47, The Stockdales wrote:
> > I need to ask a favor of our UK list members.  SWMBO faithfully watches
> > "Keeping Up Appearances" a UK tele show.  You get Dynasty we get some of
> > yours.  The Bucket womans brother in law Onslo wears a hat that says FH.
> > What does FH stand for?  This really wont get me anything but I just want to
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> Tel: +44 1482 621888
> Fax: +44 1482 62187

I t may be British comedy at it's worst but it is still miles ahead of what 
passes
for comedy on North American TV.
I blame it on the ratings panic. You may know the story. TV company has a show
that is vaguely popular so all the others  produce clones. Currently it seem you
have to have a skinny slighty wierd young female (insert employment choice) as 
the
lead
and procede to bash large hetero males and fat women. Supporting male lead must 
be
gay.
John and Muddy

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From: John Cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:36:37 -0400
Subject: Re: Gearbox/Diff Question

John Baker wrote:

> The following relates to my 1975 SIII 109 with Salisbury rear axle.
> I am not sure if I have one or two problems that I need to address.
> First, the symptom: When shifting from 1st to 2nd there is a clunking (not
> a severe clunking, just the sound of something  being a bit loose)
> sometimes, that does not occur when starting out in first gear, or starting
> up from 2nd, or any other combo. This doesn't always happen, so I assume
> that when it doesn't the slack, wherever it may be, has been taken up.
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> Thanks to all who might take a stab at this.
> Regards,

Before you get too worried. check out the splines in the drive plates on the
wheel hubs where the axle shafts go through.
I had the same problem and that was the situation. I have found the these wear
quite fast compared to the one on the Rover axle. The best bit is that they are
cheap and easy to change
John and Muddy

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From: Lodelane@aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:39:43 EST
Subject: Re: Making a trailer out of a LR!!

In a message dated 10-02-99 7:47:09 AM Eastern Standard Time,
jtackley.dit@state.va.us writes:

<< Larry Smith has offered to participate as co-creator on this project, and
 some of the design ideas are his.  Alas, we have as yet not been able to
 decide which one of us will get to pull it to the next rally site.
 Suggestions from the list members, short of a duel or joust (w/starting
 handles!)? >>

Depends John,  have we decided to use a tow ball set up or the more proper
lunette and pintle setup?  8^)  "Lunatics for Lunettes"

Larry Smith
Chester, VA

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From: BEN_NIBALI@denso-diam.com
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:59:48 -0500
Subject: Front Cover Gasket

The front cover gasket for the 2-1/4 is of the glorified paper-towel type.
I don't trust this feeble little strip of paper to keep my engine sealed up
after all of the work I have put into fixing the crankshaft oil seals.  I
have had good luck with this sort of gasket on hub drive flanges and such
but this application is a bit more difficult to access in case of future
leaks.

Anyone have any experience with augmenting these gaskets by smearing RTV or
something else on them- or should I just trust it as is?

Ben Nibali
'65 88" HT

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:10:48 -0500
Subject: Re: Front Cover Gasket

Secrets of the Universe re: front cover gaskets:

Use the Force, luke.....oops, sorry, wrong drama....8*)

Personally I've had good luck wih the following:

a. Don't use a super-cheap gasket. Better quality ones are a bit thicker and
seal better.
b. Cleanliness is extremely important - make sure that all the mating surfaces
are scraped clean and tidy. Old gasket spooge is bad...
c. Inspect the mating surfaces for dents or ridges on the edges. If the cover or
block surfaces or edges are dinged, a fine flat file to clean up the mating
surface will help things seat right.
d. a thin coat of Hylomar or Permatex 2a (the non-hardening kind) on thecover,
then the gasket, makes it easy to get the damned thing into place and torqued
down without folding or tearing the gasket. Wipe away the excess that squeezes
out and no one will ever know.

Works for me! -ajr

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From: BEN_NIBALI@denso-diam.com
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:19:06 -0500
Subject: Cracked Block

In the process of cleaning the engine while it was out for clutch work, I
discovered a very disheartening feature of my '65 2-1/4 petrol engine.
There is a 4-5 inch crack in the left hand side of the block.  It begins
near the coolant flushing fitting and extends straight back towards the
rear of the engine.  It has apparently leaked coolant in the past from this
spot as evidenced by the complete lack of crusty grease beneath the crack.
(The crack allows coolant under pressure to leak from the water jacket to
the outside of the engine.)  It appears that the freeze plugs did not do
their job at some point in the past- before I owned it.

I have never seen it leak from this crack, but then I've never had a fully
pressurized cooling system either.  When I finally got a decent radiator
cap, the radiator leaked so badly that I had to stop driving it.  That is
when I started the clutch job.

My countermeasure was to clean it well with the wire wheel on my 4-1/2"
angle grinder, then J.B.Weld the hell out of it.  I think I've got it
covered but if not then I am not above using BarsLeak or some similar
product to stop it up tight.

I am wondering who else out there is driving around with a cracked block
and if I should start budgeting for a proper repair.  Can this sort of
thing be welded?  Access is very good when the engine is out.

Thanks,
Ben Nibali
'65 88" HT

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 99 06:23:10 -0800
Subject: Re: Buying LR stuff in London?

>>entire internals of a SIII gearbox on the 'plane home as 
>>hand luggage.
;>I once put my hand luggage through the machine at Manchester
;> airport  on my way to carryout a mercy mission for a friend 
;>stuck in North Africa and a voice the other side the viewer 
;>screen said "hey, a Land Rover fuel pump"

I guess I have different priorities.  The Land Rover parts have
always gone in checked lugage, the camera gear goes as carry on
and the flim gets smuggled on my body.

Last time I came back from the UK I brought a new rear 109 prop shaft, 
complete removable handle pick ax, and a TR3 metal fuel line.

The biggest pile was when I came home from Billing.  I returned with:
My camping gear
new heated windscreen
new exhaust manifold
Glazed door tops
complete shower tent
New Coverall Europe rear tent
And a big pile of little parts & pieces

Luckally I was flying British Air business class.  I wheeled a cart to 
the counter & they had a steward wheel it off to baggage.  No weighing, 
no hassles and I did not have to pay shipping for a ton of stuff.  That 
was a good trip.  The plane trip was on frequent flyer miles, I got parts 
at Billing show special prices and did not pay shipping 8^)

EVERY time my 4X5 camera has gone through X-ray they have asked me to 
open up the camera and they looked at the lenses.  Large format lenses 
are basically two cones with their points together.  I make a point of 
going through security early to have time for my show and tell session.

Unfortunatly they  will not hand inspect the film unless they open the 
box and look inside at the individual sheets of film.  Since there is no 
metal associated with the film boxes I tend to stash them in inside 
jacket pockets instead of sending them through the X ray machine.

TeriAnn Wakeman               If you send me direct mail, please
Santa Cruz, California        start the subject line with TW - 
twakeman@cruzers.com           I will be sure to read the message

http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman   

"How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare"
Amelia Earhart 1898-1937

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:25:53 -0500
Subject: Re: Cracked Block

Re: Welding the block?

JBWeld....eeeewwwww......<grin>

Well, at least it ain't cracked into a cylinder.

Yes, it can be welded, if the welder knows whattheHell he's doing. This would
need to be ground to a V, ends drilled to stop its travel, cleaned, preheated,
welded then allowed to cool slowly so as not to develop stresses.

I'd call about to local welding shops were I you, and pick the guy who knows
best. It ain't gonna be cheap, but neither is a new block...ouch.

               ajr

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:32:49 -0500
Subject: Re: Cracked Block

As an addendum:

This reminds me of a repair method that I saw recommeded in a "Motor's Repair
Manual" circa 1925:

The repair of a crack in a block is a simple procedure - they recommended
drilling a hole at the end of the crack of 1/4" or so and tapping it for a bolt,
which was then screwed in with a red-lead sealer. Grind of fhte head, then do it
again, overlapping the next hole slightly into the previously-inserted bolt.

Continue until the crack is closed, then file and paint.

Yow.....

               ajr

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From: "Tackley, John" <jtackley.dit@state.va.us>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:36:19 -0500
Subject: RE: Making a trailer out of a LR!!

Only the 'Proper' setup, please...but I noticed that you have a tow ball on
your 88!

>previously, Larry Smith said
Depends John,  have we decided to use a tow ball set up or the more proper
lunette and pintle setup?  8^)  "Lunatics for Lunettes"

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From: "Tackley, John" <jtackley.dit@state.va.us>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:45:07 -0500
Subject: RE: Rimmer Bros 

FYI, LROs:

I received this from Rimmer Bros....

>Dear sir
      Thankyou for your recent enquiry, unfortunately the free delivery
offer is only open to Triumph and SD1 owners, we are willing to quote you a
discounted price for delivery to your door by UPS, please advise which
model of landrover you have also engine size, and year etc.

Regards

Garry(export sales) email: export@rimmerbros.co.uk

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 99 07:06:01 -0800
Subject: Re: Making a trailer out of a LR!!

>I was wondering!! - I have a SwB s3 hard top that I have to get rid off
>- but I came up with the idea of making a trailer out of him! 
<SNIP>
;>Do you have any comments on this? - My main worry was that it would be
;>to heavy!

;>Has anyone done this?

In the US it was commonly done to 109 two doors which is why 109 two door 
LRs are hard to find in the states these days.   

You cut the body at the bulkhead creating a box trailer.  You lay the top 
on the box with the front at the seat bulkhead (front of the trailer) and 
cut off the back.  You grind off the rear rivits to remove the rear 
vertial section of the top and re-rivit it to the back of the trailer 
top.  You can front hinge the  top and use a pair of bonnet prop rods  to 
prop the roof up when open.

TeriAnn Wakeman               If you send me direct mail, please
Santa Cruz, California        start the subject line with TW - 
twakeman@cruzers.com           I will be sure to read the message

http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman   

Walk in harmony with the earth and all her creatures and you will create 
beauty wherever you go.

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From: Lodelane@aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:16:51 EST
Subject: Re: Making a trailer out of a LR!!

In a message dated 10-02-99 9:37:41 AM Eastern Standard Time,
jtackley.dit@state.va.us writes:

<< Only the 'Proper' setup, please...but I noticed that you have a tow ball on
 your 88! >>

Nope, neither one of them.  The '66 has the military pintle, and the '72 has
the stock "forked tongue" with a pin pintle.  However in a pinch, a 2 inch (5
cm) tow ball can be stuffed into the bolt hole on the civvie pintle and
torqued down.

Larry Smith
Chester, VA

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 99 07:22:28 -0800
Subject: Re: Gearbox/Diff Question

>The following relates to my 1975 SIII 109 with Salisbury rear axle. 
;
Just for the fun of it remove the rear axle drive flanges and look 
closely at the oil/grease near the end of the flange where it touches 
both the flange and axle.  Have someone rock the car while it is in 
fourth.  If you can see any freeplay between the axles and drive flanges 
you proably have worn drive flanges that should be replaced.  Just a 
little freeplay in the drive flange can be enough for clunks farther up 
the drive rain. It may not be your whole problem but it may be part of 
it.  This is a common clunk source in Salisbury equipped cqars

Also check your rear prop shaft 'U' joints and the wear on the prop shaft 
slip joint splines.

My philosophy is to check the easy to get at cheap things before even 
considering the hard to get at expensive stuff.  I learned that one the 
hard way a couple of times after doing major tare downs for minor things 
that could have been fixed in an hour or so.  Of course at the time I 
told myself that it never hurt to dissassemble a good transmission to 
check bearings & such.

TeriAnn Wakeman               If you send me direct mail, please
Santa Cruz, California        start the subject line with TW - 
twakeman@cruzers.com           I will be sure to read the message

http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman   

Walk in harmony with the earth and all her creatures and you will create 
beauty wherever you go.

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From: dbobeck@ushmm.org
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 99 08:43:19 -0500
Subject: Re[2]: Overdrive theory 

>Yes, there is a guy in Oregon named Timm Cooper who is making underdrive 
>units.  He has one on his '88 and it's a pretty sweet setup.

>I can get you more info if you'd like.

that wasn't orignally my question but I would like to know more...what else is 
Tim(m) up to? he does V8's as well, right?

later
dave

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From: "Tackley, John" <jtackley.dit@state.va.us>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:48:28 -0500
Subject: RE: Making a trailer out of a LR!!

Well, I have the civie Pintle too.  I guess that settles it.  (Oops, I don't
think I have the Pintle 'pin'.)

>Larry said:
Nope, neither one of them.  The '66 has the military pintle, and the '72 has
the stock "forked tongue" with a pin pintle.  However in a pinch, a 2 inch
(5
cm) tow ball can be stuffed into the bolt hole on the civvie pintle and
torqued down.

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From: "Wise Owl Innovation Incorporated" <wiseowl@direct.ca>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:40:12 -0800
Subject: Re: NADA 6 cyl EXhaust valves Help?

Rob we have two valves here if this will help. Price $17.00 each. Ray

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From: John Cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:38:02 -0400
Subject: [Fwd: Yellow 109 spotted?]

I thought the west coast Canadians might be interested to read this. If
you see this Rover with the travel scenes on in try to buy it!
John and Muddy

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From: DONOHUEPE@aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:37:51 EST
Subject: Making a trailer out of a LR!!

On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Olafur Agust Axelsson wrote:

<< I was wondering!!  - I have a SwB s3 hard top that I have to get rid off -
but I came up with the idea of making a trailer out of him!  - ...  Has anyone
done this?  >>

Salaam Olafur:

In the US, dead pickup trucks are often made into trailers.

With some welding you can fabricate a trailer tongue from frame material.
Remove half shafts, brake parts and differential to get rid of some weight
(and add to the pile of spare parts in your shed).  The hole where the
differential was removed can be covered with a simple sheet metal panel made
from a stop sign or a Texas beercan.

A little fabrication and you have an inexpensive trailer.  Go for it!

Paul Donohue
1965 Land Rover 109

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:05:23 -0800
Subject: RE: [Fwd: Yellow 109 spotted?] 

	>>around somewhere in BC. I wonder if the owner knows how much the
drawings
on the sides would be worth. Maybe Paul Quin from the list will see it.<<

I haven't seen such a Rover around here, but I do know where Mr. Bateman
lives on Saltspring Island.  I have met him in passing a few times in
Ganges.  Will stop him and see if he knows where it is next time...  

To the right collector, that truck would be worth *a lot* of money...

Paul in Victoria.

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From: "Faure, Marin" <Marin.Faure@PSS.Boeing.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:23:15 -0800
Subject: Re: Onslo's hat

From: "The Stockdales" <mstockdale@mho.net>
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:47:23 -0800
Subject: Onslo's Hat

>I need to ask a favor of our UK list members.  SWMBO faithfully watches
"Keeping Up Appearances" a UK tele show.  You get Dynasty we get some of
yours.  The Bucket womans brother in law Onslo wears a hat that says FH.
What does FH stand for?  This really wont get me anything but I just want to
know. 

I've wondered about the FH on Onslo's hat for years.  I have never seen a hat 
with this
emblem on any of my many trips to the UK, but that doesn't mean anything.  I've
asked several of my UK friends about this in the past, and all they have been 
able to do is
take an educated guess.  Their guesses have included: a local football (soccer) 
club, a
DIY (do-it-yourself) store, something to do with the race-horse industry, or an 
agricultural
equipment manufacturer (Massey Ferguson is, or was, a British tractor company, 
for instance).  

However, the explanation that holds the most credibiliy for me at this point is 
one from a friend of
mine in the UK broadcast industry.  Although she was not connected with the 
show, she told me the 
logo on Onslo's hat stands for "F--k Hyacinth," and was an inside joke for the 
cast and crew.  
Having had cast members of my own productions come up with things like this in 
the past, I actually
give this theory a lot of credibility.

__________________
C. Marin Faure
faurecm@halcyon.com
marin.faure@boeing.com
  (original owner)
  1973 Land Rover Series III-88
  1991 Range Rover Vogue SE

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From: Lodelane@aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:57:14 EST
Subject: Re: Onslo's hat

In a message dated 10-02-99 12:21:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Marin.Faure@PSS.Boeing.com writes:

<< ogo on Onslo's hat stands for "F--k Hyacinth," and was an inside joke for
the cast and crew.  
 Having had cast members of my own productions come up with things like this
in the past, I actually
 give this theory a lot of credibility.
  >>
Heard a similar inside joke about "Star Trek - Next Gen"  That two of the
cultures represented on the show were named after the Swedish tennis star,
Bjorn Borg.

Larry Smith
Chester, VA

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:03:38 EST
Subject: Lunettes, was Making a trailer out of a LR!!

"Lunatics for Lunettes"
I thought Lunette was the girl on the Big Comfy Couch!? Can you tell I have
six grandchildren, all under 7yo?

Cheers!!
John Dillingham
near Canton, GA
KF4NAS
LROA #1095
SoLaRoS #23
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1
(770)345-3516 

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:11:03 EST
Subject: Wot?? was life is......

Dunno about that, but here its 75 degrees in Feb in the North Georgia Hills,
and fuel is 73 cents a US gallon.
Cheers!!
John Dillingham
Probably have an Ice storm in May !?!
near Canton, GA
KF4NAS
LROA #1095
SoLaRoS #23
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1
(770)345-3516 

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:07:59 EST
Subject:  Re: Onslo's Hat

Betty Jo and I both enjoy "Keeping up Appearances" a couple times a week on
public TV. Sometimes I feel a little like Richard, myself............
BTW the car's a Rover 400 series, right? like the four door Honda Civic we
have over here.
Cheers!!
John Dillingham
near Canton, GA
KF4NAS
LROA #1095
SoLaRoS #23
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1
(770)345-3516 

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From: CIrvin1258@aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:31:22 EST
Subject: Re: Onslo's Hat

In a message dated 99-02-10 08:22:24 EST, you write:

<< I blame it on the ratings panic. You may know the story. TV company has a
show
 that is vaguely popular so all the others  produce clones. Currently it seem
you
 have to have a skinny slighty wierd young female (insert employment choice)
as the
 lead
 and procede to bash large hetero males and fat women. Supporting male lead
must be
 gay.
 John and Muddy >>

Where's the great Al Bundy when we need him!

Charles

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From: "David Hope" <davidjhope@email.msn.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:26:42 -0600
Subject: Ex British Army llAs from Rovers North

I am curious about the quality of these low mileage vehicles.  Is there
anyone on the list who either bought one last year or who knows anything
about them?

David Hope
64llA

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From: Steven Nijweide <steven.nijweide@wxs.nl>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:38:57 +0100
Subject: Exhaust sides

Peter Hope Wrote:

Frown on
> >kippered pedestrians, I guess if the driver is smoked in his own fumes then
> >thats too
> >bad. There is a logic in this ie. if you do it be responsible for it.
> John, is this 'driver side' as they drive in Britain??  Or drivers side for
> the intended market?
> Reason I ask is both of my 88's were LHD but the exhaust exited on th

I think I'm especially lucky since I drive my RHD LR with the exhaust at
the RH-side on the Right side of the road. This way I can kipper myself
AND the pedestrians at the same time

Steven
'70 SIIA SWB "Betty"

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:54:22 -0800
Subject: RE: Exhaust sides - Flame throwers

A buddy's '69 IIA used to have the tail pipe on the sidewalk side of his.
He also has dual fuel tanks.  When switching from one tank to the other, he
used to release one hell of a back fire that would on occasion shoot out a
good sized flame / spark shower from the tail pipe along with a
'RRRRrrrmmmmmm..........ffffffwwwwoooOOOossshhhh' sound that used to scatter
pedestrians like no ones business.   :-)

Paul in Victoria.

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From: dbobeck@ushmm.org
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 99 15:13:21 -0500
Subject: Re[2]: Exhaust sides - Flame throwers 

paul wrote:

> he used to release one hell of a back fire that would on occasion shoot 
>out a good sized flame / spark shower from the tail pipe along with a
>'RRRRrrrmmmmmm..........ffffffwwwwoooOOOossshhhh' sound that used to scatter 
>pedestrians like no ones business.   :-)

he released it? or the landy? seriously, pedestrians scatter at the sight of my 
rover, they don't wait until its close enough to hear. oh wait maybe they hear 
it before they see it...beccause of the smoke screen...

HAHAHAHAHAHA

later
dave/greenHELL (soon to be sporting drive flanges and no FWH's) 

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:29:36 -0800
Subject: RE: Re[2]: Exhaust sides - Flame throwers 

Well, he's quite a spice / curie fan so maybe is was him all along...   ;-)

It was always really fun to switch tanks while flying down a dark highway at
top speed.  It'd let loose a twenty foot flame.  Sure got rid of any
tailgaters quickly!

Switching from his old Zenith to a Weber seems to have cured the 'problem'
though.  Bummer.

Paul.

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From: "Richard Clarke"<Richard.Clarke@nre.vic.gov.au>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:54:02 +1000
Subject: Re: Olafur's trailer

 Olafur Agust Axelsson
 wrote
"I was wondering!! - I have a SwB s3 hard top that I have to get rid off
- but I came up with the idea of making a trailer out of him! - That is,
to use the *drawer* and back-axle and cut the frame in half behind the
gearbox - and maybe use the roof as a lid on it!!
I just think this would be a great looking trailer behind my S2a ...if
painted in matching colors!!
Do you have any comments on this? - My main worry was that it would be
to heavy!
Has anyone done this?"
Olafur,
they are relatively common in Australia, although usually using the LWB
tub, the weight of the chasis (frame), and the fact that the rear cross
member is often rusted out, means that often a light weight RHS frame is
made up to carry the tub, springs etc.

the diff centre can be removed from the axle housing to make it lighter but
you need to make a steel plate to bolt in its place or the housing will
twist and bend

I built a trailer out of a swb series one tub, with a transfer box on the
front and can drive it from the rear pto from my series 1 (the round hole
in the rear cross member had to be 'moved' into the centre to alow
articulation and you have to remember to change the transfer box on the
trailer when you change the one in the car).  It was a 'challenge' to built
and some of the engineering is a bit rough, it didn't cost much 'cos it was
built for bits which were lying around

richard

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From: "Richard Clarke"<Richard.Clarke@nre.vic.gov.au>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:59:15 +1000
Subject: Re: rear window wipers

my old 110 had the standard wiper at the bottom of the rear window, on my
previously owned stage 1 I hade fitted an old serII wiper mounted at the
top.

Mounting it at the top put the motor out of the way

the wiper pattern was inverted but didn't seem to make much difference to
what you could see - either way it only wiped half of the glass - on the
stage 1 I used an arm off a car from the wreckers, it was quite a bit
longer than the standard series 1/2 arm and wiped more of the rear window
glass

richard

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From: DNDANGER@aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:50:49 EST
Subject: Re: Rear window wiper

In a message dated 99-02-10 01:44:08 EST, you write:

<< we have a saying in the UK: "Where there's no sense there's no feeling."
 just thinking out loud...... :-)>
  >>

Out this way it's "no brains, no pains" an apt description of Albuquerque
drivers.

Bill Lawrence
Albq, NM 

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From: Steve West-Fisher <steve@coastaldatasystems.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:03:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Onslo's Hat

On 10-Feb-99 Steve Mace wrote:
> My God I didn't know that anyone actually watched that! 
> British comedy at it's absolute worst.
> On 9 Feb 99, at 22:47, The Stockdales wrote:

It took me a long time to get to like it, but it helps if you have relatives
just like her.
E-Mail: Steve West-Fisher <steve@coastaldatasystems.com>
Date: 10-Feb-99
Time: 18:52:33

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From: Steve West-Fisher <steve@coastaldatasystems.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:02:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject: RE: Onslo's Hat

On 10-Feb-99 The Stockdales wrote:
> I need to ask a favor of our UK list members.  SWMBO faithfully watches
> "Keeping Up Appearances" a UK tele show.  You get Dynasty we get some of
> yours.  The Bucket womans brother in law Onslo wears a hat that says FH.
> What does FH stand for?  This really wont get me anything but I just want to
> know.  LR content=  The Buckets drive a Rover car.

Can't answer the question, but Adele (my wife) thinks Onslo and I must be
related.

E-Mail: Steve West-Fisher <steve@coastaldatasystems.com>
Date: 10-Feb-99
Time: 18:48:27

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From: Ian Spencer <toyguy@gte.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:11:05 -0500
Subject: '67 Land Rover 88 pick up Series IIA For Sale RHD

Hi,
I have a '67 88 RHD pick up that I would like to sell. It resides in
Dayton, Ohio. It has a good frame, I repaired the rear crossmember with
a galvanized one from Rovers North. The front frame horns are starting
to go at ther very tips,  and will need repaired someday. I have had the
body off of the frame and replaced the springs, shocks, rebuilt tranny,
rebuilt engine, drive shafts, and brakes. Just about everything
mechanically has been replaced or rebuilt in the past 6 years. The
bulkhead has had some patch work to the lower door posts and foot wells.
This will need some attention someday, but depending on your needs, can
be used the way it is for sometime. Pictures can be seen at
<http://home1.gte.net/toyguy/rover.html> This Rover is a good runner and
can be driven anywhere. I have used it as a second vehicle and only
wan't to sell because I have a good opportunity to buy another British
vehicle that I can't pass up on. Please feel free to contact me at
937-667-9402 or e-mail ian@sunbeamalpine.com. The asking price is
8000.00 and I am willing to listen to offers.
Thanks,
Ian Spencer
www.sunbeamalpine.com

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From: DNDANGER@aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:00:00 EST
Subject: Re: life is......

In a message dated 99-02-10 02:44:18 EST, you write:

<< Hmmm,
 home from a long day at school.  Sunny 80 deg.
 doing homework.  water and the radio.  cept for the weather I think I got
 'da shaft'
 Pete
  >>

You sound like Jimmy Buffet singing about "Just another shi**y day in
paradise.
I'm sure we all sympathize.

Bill Lawrence
Albq, NM

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From: Kathleen Hollington <kholling@nrn1.NRCan.gc.ca>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:32:21 -0500 (EST)
Subject: LR Supermarket

Has anyone on the list ordered from LR Supermarket (www.merseyworld.com)?
THey have a most interesting e-commerce site on the web, with nice
color pictures of all the parts arranged by groupings, with tables
from which you tick off how many items you want of what, add them to
your shopping basket, then check out, state your address and credit
card number.  I am considering placing an order from Canada and would
like to know if anyone has used this company before and what the service
was like.  Thanks.
-- 
Robert St-Louis -- OTTAWA/CANADA -- '68 IIA SWB LR -- 
  kholling@nrn1.nrcan.gc.ca.NOSPAM (remove NOSPAM when replying)

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From: David Cockey <dcockey@tir.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:00:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Making a trailer out of a LR!!

Joost Kramer wrote:

> I was wondering the same. The only two down sides I can imagine is the
> weight of such
> trailer and the difficulty to operate the brakes of a normal axle.

Use a "surge" brake coupling.

In the US large boat trailers use hydraulic "surge" brakes. The trailer
coupling is mounted on rollers so it can move fore/aft relative to the
trailer tongue. A master cylinder with integral reservoir is mounted on
the tongue with the push rod connected to the coupling. The master
cylinder is connected to a hydraulic brake on each wheel. When the
trailer pushes against the vehicle, the push goes through the master
cylinder. The master cylinder then applies the brakes. As long as the
brakes are in good shape and the master cylinder is not corroded solid
the system works very well. The major drawback is that reversing up a
hill is difficult because the brakes are applied. Some couplings can be
blocked from applying the brakes in such circumstances.

I haven't checked the volume of the surge brake master cylinder relative
to LR brakes, but I suspect one would work with LR rear axle brakes. The
cost in the US ranges from $85 to $200. Norhtern Hydraulics is one mail
order source.

Regards,
David Cockey

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From: Jim Fraser <fraserj@webhart.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:01:27 -0500
Subject: Re: Cracked Block

Yes, one the the Practical Classic issues describes this procedure, I
believe it was a '98 issue.  Sounded VERY time consuming...

Jim Fraser

>As an addendum:
>This reminds me of a repair method that I saw recommeded in a "Motor's Repair
>Manual" circa 1925:
>The repair of a crack in a block is a simple procedure - they recommended
>drilling a hole at the end of the crack of 1/4" or so and tapping it for a

bolt,
>which was then screwed in with a red-lead sealer. Grind of fhte head, then
do it

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:37:30 EST
Subject: Re: LR Supermarket

In a message dated 2/10/99 7:33:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
kholling@nrn1.NRCan.gc.ca writes:

<< Has anyone on the list ordered from LR Supermarket (www.merseyworld.com)?

Yes.  Great service. Good response to faxed requests. Prices as promised.
Promptly shipped. I'll do business with them in the future. 

Nate

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From: DNDANGER@aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:57:02 EST
Subject: Re: Onslo's Hat

In a message dated 99-02-10 13:38:51 EST, you write:

<< Where's the great Al Bundy when we need him!
  >>
Or even Archie bunker?

Bill Lawrence

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From: John Cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:05:05 -0400
Subject: Re: LR Supermarket

Kathleen Hollington wrote:

> Has anyone on the list ordered from LR Supermarket (www.merseyworld.com)?
> THey have a most interesting e-commerce site on the web, with nice
> color pictures of all the parts arranged by groupings, with tables
> from which you tick off how many items you want of what, add them to
> your shopping basket, then check out, state your address and credit
> card number.  I am considering placing an order from Canada and would
> like to know if anyone has used this company before and what the service
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 10 lines)]
> --
> Robert St-Louis -- OTTAWA/CANADA -- '68 IIA SWB LR

I use them a lot. They are reliable and the service is excellent. I have
asked for items not in the catalogue and the always seem to have them in
stock. Usually about a weeks delivery to Nova Scotia.
Their prices are not thw cheapest but the quality of their non genuine items
is very good.
Satisfied customer      John and Muddy

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From: "James G.Wolf" <elvenwood@whro.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:14:40 -0500
Subject: RE: comedies

>My God I didn't know that anyone actually watched that! 

Hey, we watch that and the thin Blue Line with "Mr Bean" as the inspector.

Jim Wolf

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From: "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:52:30 -1000
Subject: Re: life is......

>You sound like Jimmy Buffet singing about "Just another shi**y day in
>paradise.
>I'm sure we all sympathize.

Ahhh, I shoulda thought of that.  Now where did I leave that "Beaches,Boats,
Bars and Ballads" collection??

Hahahaha.
And damm, it was even nicer today, trade winds dropped a bit.
Pete

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From: "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:55:31 -1000
Subject: Re: LR Supermarket

I have not ordered from them yet, but plan on doing so when the $$$ has
piled up enough.  You can download their complete catalog in an MS Acces
format.  You can then conduct searches based on item name or part number.
They have the best prices I was able to work out world wide, and the
shipping for me is gonna be irrelevent.  Cost almost as much to get
something from RN as it does from MerseyWorld.

Pete

ps.  John & Muddy, thanks for the feedback on this also.

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From: "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:58:12 -1000
Subject: Re: Making a trailer out of a LR!!

>The major drawback is that reversing up a
>hill is difficult because the brakes are applied. Some couplings can be
>blocked from applying the brakes in such circumstances.

I believe that it is also possible to have a hydraulic system that is
electrically controlled.  Brakes are only applied when the vehicle brakes
are applied.  Wifes truck is set up with this for towing the horses about.
Sorry, that's the extent of my knowledge on the subject.  BUT, any good
trailer/heavy truck shop should be able to help you out.
Pete

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From: Winn Bearden <wbearden@americus.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:19:28 -0500
Subject: Re: Cracked Block

That's called pinning a crack.  Did it to a 6.9 IH diesel a while back.

Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com wrote:

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From: urbncby@sgi.net (Scott C. Wickham Jr.)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:39:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: life is......

>is life good or wot?
>Best Cheers
>Frank

  You said it brother!  I'm hooking up with some people next weekend in
Altoona, Pa. to do some 'roverin.  Can't wait!  This Rover has definitely
added a good thing to my life.  Thank you Russ Wilson, where ever you are!
He got me hooked on these things in '96.  You don't see many right hand
drive anything in the little town of Verona, let alone an old Land Rover!
I knew I had to have one.

   Scott C. Wickham Jr.
     Pittsburgh, Pa.
     1972 Ser III
     Zebra truck
     

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From: urbncby@sgi.net (Scott C. Wickham Jr.)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:59:48 -0500 (EST)
Subject: RE: Making a trailer out of a LR!!

>So, Olafur, want to bring your trailer to a rally in Virginia for
>comparison?  We could create a new class for competition!
>John Tackley
>Richmond, VA

  Zoinks!!  I have all the parts for a trailer too!  A '59 rear frame, '72
tub, and a '59 top.  Axle and old springs also.  If I can get it ready for
the summer, count me in on the competition!

   Scott C. Wickham Jr.
     Pittsburgh, Pa.
     1972 Ser III
     Zebra truck
     

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From: DNDANGER@aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:43:38 EST
Subject: Re: life is......

In a message dated 99-02-10 22:00:49 EST, you write:

 Hahahaha.
 And damm, it was even nicer today, trade winds dropped a bit.
 Pete
  >>
Yeah, the tradewinds blew through here today too and along with the dust it
traded a 70 degree day for a 20 degree night. I think we been screwed.

Later.

Bill Lawrence
Albq, NM

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From: urbncby@sgi.net (Scott C. Wickham Jr.)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:17:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Cracked Block

> Grind of fhte head, then do it
>again, overlapping the next hole slightly into the previously-inserted bolt.
>Continue until the crack is closed, then file and paint.
>Yow.....

  I'll bet that guy got paid by the hour, not the job!

   Scott C. Wickham Jr.
     Pittsburgh, Pa.
     1972 Ser III
     Zebra truck
     

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From: urbncby@sgi.net (Scott C. Wickham Jr.)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:25:39 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Onslo's Hat

>Where's the great Al Bundy when we need him!

  In the shit-house, where else?

   Scott C. Wickham Jr.
     Pittsburgh, Pa.
     1972 Ser III
     Zebra truck
     

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From: urbncby@sgi.net (Scott C. Wickham Jr.)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:33:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Making a trailer out of a LR!!

>I haven't checked the volume of the surge brake master cylinder relative
>to LR brakes, but I suspect one would work with LR rear axle brakes. The
>cost in the US ranges from $85 to $200. Norhtern Hydraulics is one mail
>order source.

  Or much less if there's a U-Haul yard in the local area ;)

   Scott C. Wickham Jr.
     Pittsburgh, Pa.
     1972 Ser III
     Zebra truck
     

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From: "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:01:43 -1000
Subject: Re: Making a trailer out of a LR!!

Just wondering.  Are the people making the trailers removing a few leafs
from the stock springs?
I would think that if left stock the trailer would be-a-bouncen along down
the road, not to mention a trail.

And say.  Any of you with all these spare parts laying about, got a RF wing
you would want to get rid of?  Unless your front end got wrecked, it has to
be in better shape then mine.

Latah Rovah Lovahs

Pete'thinks he may be missing home.....not!!!

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From: CIrvin1258@aol.com
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:28:04 EST
Subject: Re: life is......

In a message dated 99-02-11 00:04:05 EST, you write:

<< Hahahaha.
  And damm, it was even nicer today, trade winds dropped a bit.
  Pete
   >>
 Yeah, the tradewinds blew through here today too and along with the dust it
 traded a 70 degree day for a 20 degree night. I think we been screwed.
 >>

Today it was a brisk 49 at LAX before the 35-40mph winds hit! But, at least it
was nice and sunny - visibility was definately unlimited.

BUT WHO CARES! I just looked at the current Harbor Freight flyer, and they
have 115V / 120A mig welders on sale for $199!

...time to fix the 109...

Charles

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From: CIrvin1258@aol.com
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:32:21 EST
Subject: Re: comedies

In a message dated 99-02-10 21:12:55 EST, you write:

<< Hey, we watch that and the thin Blue Line with "Mr Bean" as the inspector.
 
 >>

My favorite is still Red Dwarf...Art Clokey must be alive and well, and
writing for that series! (granted I'm only 33, but for those too young, Mr.
Clokey was the creator of Gumby - he himself once said that he thought of
Gumby, whle on a LSD trip!)

...now that I think about it, he probably wrote AbFab as well.

LR content: Anybody know the title of that English series about the 3 retirees
- of which, one owns a 88" truck cab? It's pretty funny too.

Charles

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From: Kutschera Peter <Peter.Kutschera@arcs.ac.at>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:54:29 +0100
Subject: Glowplug resistor: how many ohms?

Can someone tell me the spezification of the resistor used between the
glow-plugs and +12V on a 2.25 l Diesel (SIIA)?

A SPO replaced most electric things and I really have problems starting
when it's going cold. Maybe it's only the missing compression or the
timing but the resistor is easier to check :-)

Thanks
 Peter ('68 SIIA LHD SW Diesel at http://enviro.arcs.ac.at/~peter/LR/ )

Peter Kutschera 
http://enviro.arcs.ac.at/~peter/
mailto:Peter.Kutschera@arcs.ac.at
Austrian Research Center Seibersdorf (ARCS)
http://www.arcs.ac.at/

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:47:03 +0000
Subject: Re: comedies

>LR content: Anybody know the title of that English series about the 3 retirees
>- of which, one owns a 88" truck cab? It's pretty funny too.

I think you must mean "Last of the Summer Wine" Charles.The three main
characters being Compo,Foggy and Clegg.The Land Rover is owned by one
Wesley Pegden,every LRO's hero,because he spends his days in filthy
old overalls,tinkering with his Land Rover.BTW the 88" has been
superceded by a very tidy 109" pickup.
There's a website at:
http://www.examiner.co.uk/summerwi/character.htm

Cheers
Mike Rooth
PS I think its funny,too.

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From: Mathias Babinsky <mmb@henhappl-babinsky.de>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:04:06 +0100
Subject: Alternator not charging

Hi all,
it appears that my alternator ist not charging the battery. Every week
or so the battery is flat. When this problem occured first, I thought it
could only be the alternator, so I replaced it with a Bosch alternator I
got very cheap at a scrapyard. But the problem remains. Maybe the new
alternator is defective, too. How can I be sure ? What measurements
could I do to find out ? Could it be that the new alternator was ok, but
got destroyed by something in my Landy not working as it should ?

I'm quite new to all this, so please tell me even the obvious !

Thanks a lot

Mathias
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