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From: Olafur Agust Axelsson <olafura@ti.is>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:10:17 +0000
Subject: Re: LR Supermarket

To contrast the compliment LR Supermarket has gotten here on the list -
I did have a few problems with them. Mainly I got all the wrong stuff -
I got a S3 part when I wanted a S2a one and got a slave cylinder when I
wanted a master and so on and so on! - BUT despite being far up north
here in chilly Iceland, they rectified all their mistake in the end -
...and were deeply sorry!

I would recommend them despite this - if not only for their online
catalog!

Olafur Agust

Civil Engineering student

Icelandic University of technology and engineering

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From: "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:34:36 +1100
Subject: Onslow's Hat

The Stockdales wrote:

>This really wont get me anything but I just want to
>know.  LR content=  The Buckets drive a Rover car.

Dunno about Onslow's hat, but the dog kennel in Onslow's and Daisy's front
yard is a Hillman Avenger (sold as a Plymouth Cricket in the USA - in an
earlier email I called it a Colt.).

Regards,
Ron Beckett
'86 Range Rover 4.6L
Webmaster Hillman Owners Club of Australia
Webmaster Land Rover Owners Club of Australia (Sydney Branch)
check my web site http//www.users.bigpond.com/hillman

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From: "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:29:57 +1100
Subject: Exhaust discharge side

William Leacock wrote:
>In the UK it is illegal to discharge the exhaust on the
>kerb side of the vehicle, the offside or rear is acceptable

Why is it then that every Rangie (including both Rangies I owned) I've seen
discharges the exhaust onto the left hadnd side.  In Australia, this
certainly puts the exhaust onto the kerbside.

Ron

Ron

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From: Olafur Agust Axelsson <olafura@ti.is>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:29:14 +0000
Subject: Trailer making!

Thanks for the massive response! - I can see that I am not as innovative
as I thought. - This has clearly been done before, so we should I
bother??

Seriously! - A few things are now learned, 1. 109 would make a more
practical trailer, and 2. I have to go to Texas to get a large enough
beercan to cover the diff hole!

But! - I havent measured the width of the roof! - does it fit the
bulkhead excactly? I dont think I would be including the side-windows
and doors! - thats just to much! - and I dont think I need to install
brakes - as someone said; You can register anything here in Iceland - as
long as its on a few wheels!!

Olafur Agust

Civil Engineering student

Icelandic University of technology and engineering

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:27:23 -0500
Subject: Re: Trailer making!

Re: Roof:

Simple enough to tell - just sight your Rover from the front and eyeball it.
Looks pretty close...or at least well within tolerances.

Re: Civil engineering student:

Does that mean that you're nice to people while you design things for them?

                    aj"Uncivil engineer"r

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From: "Andy Grafton" <andyg@sherco.co.za>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:14:23 +0200
Subject: Re: Exhaust discharge side

Ron wrote, Re: UK legislation.

> Why is it then that every Rangie (including both Rangies I owned) 
I've seen
> discharges the exhaust onto the left hadnd side.  In Australia, this

Ron there are may UK vehicles with the exhausts on the near 
side...

I was told long ago that Public Service Vehicles have to have 
exhausts discharging away from the pavements.  Perhaps there is 
legislation to that effect?  It would make some sense 'cause 
otherwise pedestrians would get dirty legs every time a bus took off 
from the kerb.

All the best,

Andy

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From: Norman Lewis <nflewis@deseretonline.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 06:20:03 -0800
Subject: Re: Making a trailer out of a LR

I have made trailers from Series IIa and Series I 88" beds.  Both were
constructed similarly in that the front portion of the frame, up to
about where the bulkhead mounts, was brought together to form an
A-frame.  A piece of 3" square steel tube was welded in the point of the
"A" to create a short tongue for the trailer coupler.  For a trailer of
this size, I see little need for brakes to be incorporated.  The
Land-Rover rear axle was used, minus the diff and half shafts.  All
brake componnts were removed, as they were redundant, and some old brake
drums were cut down to provide the proper spacing at the wheel studs. 
On the Ser I, I had to add fully-floating hubs, as it originally had the
semi-floating axles.

Overall, these made nice little trailers, but there is one technicality
you need to be aware of.  On an 88, the axle is biased towards the front
of the bed and therefore if the trailer is not loaded carefully, it can
have a negative tongue weight.  This will affect handling, and under
some circumstances can be dangerous if there is a very heavy load.  The
trick is to be very careful with loading.  Otherwise, either trailer
tracked well, although I have preferrred the Ser I one, as it is a bit
lighter.  I also removed the shocks, as they tended to make the
suspension too stiff.  Even doing that, there is some tendency to bounce
when empty, but there isn't much else that can be done about that.

If anyone needs more specifics on how these were made, contact me
directly.

Norm Lewis
Denver, CO

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:58:36 +0000
Subject: Re: Trailer making!

>Re: Civil engineering student:
>Does that mean that you're nice to people while you design things for them?

No Alan,it means he's in the branch of engineering that puts bolts in
loose and leaves them to rust up tight....

Mike Rooth

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From: "Neil Brownlee" <metal_thrasher@offroading.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:35:52 -0000
Subject: Re: Alternator not charging

in my experience, if you're battery won't charge or goes flat quickly - try
swapping it.

Neil

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From: "Robert A. Virzi" <rvirzi@gte.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:46:41 -0500
Subject: Darwin awards and sighting?

Two nominees from the recent Darwin awards.  Note that the 
descriptions of the trucks involved bear an uncomfortable similarity 
to Land Rover products.  Anyone on the list?  		-Bob

[Kalamazoo Gazette] James Burns, 34, (a mechanic) of Alamo, MI, was 
killed in March as he was trying to repair what police described as a 
"farm-type truck." Burns got a friend to drive the truck on a highway 
while Burns hung underneath so that he could ascertain the source of 
a troubling noise. Burns' clothes caught on something, however, and 
the other man found Burns "wrapped in the drive shaft."

[Arkansas Democrat Gazette] Two local men were seriously injured when 
their pick-up truck left the road and struck a tree near Cotton Patch 
on State Highway 38 early Monday morning. Woodruff County deputy 
Dovey Snyder reported the accident shortly after midnight Monday. 
Thurston Poole, 33, of Des Arc and Billy Ray Wallis, 38, of Little 
Rock are listed in serious condition at Baptist Medical Center. The 
accident occurred as the two men were returning to Des Arc after a 
frog gigging trip. On an overcast Sunday night, Poole's pick-up truck 
headlights malfunctioned. The two men concluded that the headlight 
fuse on the older model truck had burned out. As a replacement fuse 
was not available, Wallis noticed that the .22 caliber bullet from 
his pistol fit perfectly into the fuse box next to the steering wheel 
column. Upon inserting the bullet, the headlights again began to 
operate properly and the two men proceeded on east-bound toward the 
White River bridge. After traveling approximately twenty miles and 
just before crossing the river, the bullet apparently overheated, 
discharged and struck Poole in the right testicle. The vehicle 
swerved sharply to the right exiting the pavement and striking a 
tree. Poole suffered only minor cuts and abrasions from the accident, 
but will require surgery to repair the other wound. Wallis sustained 
a broken clavicle and was treated and released. "Thank God we weren't 
on that bridge when Thurston shot his nuts off or we might both be 
dead" stated Wallis. "I've been a trooper for ten years in this part 
of the world, but this is a first for me. I can't believe that those 
two would admit how this accident happened", said Snyder. Upon being 
notified of the wreck, Lavinia, Poole's wife asked how many frogs the 
boys had caught and did anyone get them from the truck.

 rvirzi@gte.com  |                Be nice to your kids.
+1.781.466.2881  |  One day they get to pick your home.

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From: Art Bitterman <artbitt@netscape.net>
Date: 11 Feb 99 08:04:15 MST
Subject: 

C Irvin asked:

LR content: Anybody know the title of that English series about the 3 retirees

  - of which, one owns a 88" truck cab? It's pretty funny too. 

  Charles 

"Last Of the Summer Wine"

Great Show!! Filmed up in the Yorkshire Dales, I believe. One of the Brit LR
firms who export to the States, mentions they are near the town where it's
filmed (Holmfirth??)

Also-None of the 3 own the LR-it belongs to a Brother in Law? who 's wife is
very Houseproud and never lets him in when wearing his coveralls!!

Art Bitterman
1960 SII "Aardvark"

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From: Art Bitterman <artbitt@netscape.net>
Date: 11 Feb 99 08:08:56 MST
Subject: Last of the Summer Wine

Mike Rooth beat me to the answer!! SHould read the whole digest before
replying!!

Favorite episode was when they used the capstan winch on the 88 to pull them
back up the grassy slope when Foggy was grass sking.

People have said I act like Foggy at times----

Art Bitterman
1960 SII "Aardvark"

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From: Harald Hansen <harald74@online.no>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:54:09 +0100
Subject: Re: Making a trailer out of a LR!!

If you make a trailer out of a 109", you could keep the fuel tank.  A
little plumbing job could hook it up to the towing vehicle, and presto,
you've got 60 liters extra! :)

Regards,
Harald

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From: "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 06:20:59 -1000
Subject: Cheep Migs (was: Re: life is......)

>BUT WHO CARES! I just looked at the current Harbor Freight flyer, and they
>have 115V / 120A mig welders on sale for $199!
>...time to fix the 109...

I would be wary of a cheep mig.  Probably has a low duty cycle, like 10%.
This mean that for every 1 minut of use you have to let the machine cool
down 9 minutes. BTDT got a burnt out machine.
Pete

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From: Jan Ben <ben@lucent.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:41:14 -0500
Subject: free seats. FOB NJ, USA

These are not LR or RR seats, but you can prob. make them work for
either.
These are from a 80-s big MB sedan.  all-leather(tan, great shape),
all-electric controls(and no Lucas, either), both have heating.
Come and get them, in central NJ.
plse email, first come-first serve (I mean first *physically* come and
get them :)
Jan
PS.. oh yeah - I am off for a week starting tomorrow, so if they're not
placed today, it'll have to be after the 2/22.
rgds
Jan
109+
'89 RR

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From: "John Baker" <daddyo@loxinfo.co.th>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:57:10 +0700
Subject:  Gearbox/Diff Question

Thanks to all who responded to my post yesterday. I will be checking the
rear drive splines, I wasn't aware that they could be a problem on the
Salisbury.

However, I did tear the gearbox down today. As TeriAnn advises, check the
simple things first, which is excellent advice--So I will explain this
somewhat drastic step.

As I mentioned earlier the person who did the work for me on the gearbox
turned out to be a total incompetant, I would have been better off giving
it to the first person on the street. I overhauled the transfer and output
shaft areas last month and found about 6 different things wrong, loose nuts
holding gears, too much slop, no cotter pins and a loose nut, you name it.
So, my confidence in the gearbox being assembled to spec was not high.
Well, today I drained the oil because I was going to fixy a leaky drain
plug gasket, and the oil was a very silvery metallic color, and it was not
very old. I also found a small tooth of a gear in there, so that did it!!

Had everything apart by dusk, did not spot the gear with the missing tooth
yet, most everything looked OK, nothing jumped and said, WOW, I am really
worn. However, I did not find the two pins on the one shaft (name escapes
me) and there may be a thrust washer or such like missing as well. This
would be the style of the work that was done before.

I will take a more thorough look on Saturday and inform the list as to what
I find, and how it turns out.

My gearbox problems and the news that  Tinky Winky may be gay have really
ruined my day.

Thanks again for the advice,

John Baker

Bangkok

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From: Mathias Babinsky <mmb@henhappl-babinsky.de>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:54:09 +0100
Subject: Re : Alternator not charging

>in my experience, if you're battery won't charge or goes flat quickly -
try swapping it.Neil

It's certainly not the battery. Same problem happened with two
batteries, both of which work fine in another car.

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From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <rover@pinn.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:41:33 -0500
Subject: LR trailers

>"Tackley, John" <jtackley.dit@state.va.us>
>Plan is to use the rear tub, top and roofsides, with two doors and a
>windscreen plus a rear door.  Fabricate a simple bulkhead out of angle and
>sheet, then bring the frame together in an "A" to make a tongue. Voila!

An >88 Trailer, complete from the windscreen back.

Mike McCaig did this back in '76 or so, 'cept he used from the rear
bulkhead back.  Bolted a tool box across the "pinched" section of frame
(A-arm) with Dick Cepek-style jerry can holders there as well.  He kept the
Rover axle, including diff, figuring that would be the best place to carry
a spare.  it;s probably still kickin' arounf Penlan somewhere, no longer
road-worthy.... Cheers

  *----jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary----*
  |                                                   |
  |             A. P. ("Sandy") Grice                 |
  |    Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
  |     Association of North American Rover Clubs     |
  |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
  |(O)757-622-7054, (H)757-423-4898, FAX 757-622-7056 |
  |                                                   |
  |   (original owner)        (pre-production)        | 
  *----1972 Series III------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)----*

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From: Zaxcoinc@aol.com
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:20:54 EST
Subject: Re: Rear window wiper

In a message dated 2/10/99 4:06:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, DNDANGER@aol.com
writes:

<< Out this way it's "no brains, no pains" an apt description of Albuquerque
 drivers. >>
My personal worst drivers are in Colorado Springs.  the best part is that they
blame all the accidents on drivers from California.  In one half hour shuttle
to the airport I saw ten wrecks all blamed by the shuttle driver on newbies
from California.  This is probably what made Art Bittermans rig overheat
there.  Aggressive driving and  snow don't mix.
Zack

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From: Jeff Goldman <roverboy@gis.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:17:10 -0500
Subject: Re: Rear window wiper

At 10:11 AM 2/9/99 -0500, you wrote:
>I've used the JC Whitless "single hole" wiper motor.  The shaft through the
>door frame is the means to attach it.  I forget what shaft length I used,
>but you can carefully cut the outer shaft then the inner one to get a
>perfect fit.  About $27 last time I looked.

  I just picked up one of these little motors for my own rear window wiper
modification, and I was wondering what you did about wiper parking, if
anything?

Jeff Goldman

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From: Coron Thomas R DLVA <CoronTR@NSWC.NAVY.MIL>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:34:20 -0500
Subject: Darwin Awards

The Darwin Award story about the guys who replaced the fuse with the 22
cartridge
is a hoax, as are many of the famous Darwin Award stories.

Check out www.snopes.com for a list of hoaxes ;-)

Tom Coron
King George, Va.
'66' IIA SWB RHD

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From: RoverNut@aol.com
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:24:24 EST
Subject: Series I for sale or trade...

First, sorry about the cross post....

Celebrate the 50th with a ~

1949 Series I.
 80" nimble inches of over-engineered tractor power!
Manufactured in first year of production. Runs well, might need a little
tweaking, but I drive it weekly with no problem. Repainted (well) in NATO
blue. Paint is in great shape for an LR - only two blemishes to speak of. 
Has soft pick-up top. RHD. Engine is in great shape, doesn't burn much oil at
all for a SI and tears up the road at a screaming 48mph!
And what torque...
Hood mounted spare, 16" rims, no serious rust.
A damn fine truck....

I'll take a serious offer to purchase, but what I really want is a IIa in good
shape. Cosmetics are not as important as frame, engine, you know the deal if
you're reading this list. I'm pretty flexible and might consider a SIII as
well.

PLEASE CONTACT ME DIRECTLY, NOT AT THIS LIST.
I can't seem to get the LRO reliably these days, so email me at:
Rovernut@AOL.com

Thanks for your interest,
Alex Maiolo
Chapel Hill NC

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From: Sski3@aol.com
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:39:10 EST
Subject:  Rimmer Bros

 I received this from Rimmer Bros....

>Dear sir
      Thankyou for your recent enquiry, unfortunately the free delivery
offer is only open to Triumph and SD1 owners, we are willing to quote you a
discounted price for delivery to your door by UPS, please advise which
model of landrover you have also engine size, and year etc.

It does't say Triumph parts in the Flyer,the only exclusions are Body
shells,Body panels,Hardtops,Chassis,Wheel sets,Engines,and Bonnets.
 IT doesn't say anything about exhausts...........
Do they want the biz or not, that is the question 8>(
Steve F
69 SIIA 88

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From: dbobeck@ushmm.org
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 99 13:12:36 -0500
Subject: Re: Darwin awards and sighting? 

>Two nominees from the recent Darwin awards.  Note that the 
>descriptions of the trucks involved bear an uncomfortable similarity 
>to Land Rover products.                -Bob

Not so Bob...
I disagree. Land Rover owners would NEVER do these things. Noises are either 
inaudible or ignored until the problem part reveals itself by totally failing, 
or just plain falling off. Nobody would be so eager to fix a Land Rover that 
they would ride holding onto the bottom of the truck. Besides any Land Rover of 
that vintage is going to be pretty slippery underneath and therefore impossible 
to hold onto, especially with all the bouncing from the complete lack of 
suspension.
 Not to mention the fact that there are no "new" noises is a Land Rover. As any 
seasoned owner can tell you, each part has its own particular range of musical 
ability, and the dedicated enthusiast should be familiar with the full 
repertoire. Sometimes these can be played just right to produce mechanical, yet 
beatiful cover renditions of famous musical pieces of all genres.

[spamkill: Sona input: %s]	  My favorite is "Fan Belt Sonata in B Major 
with Seatbox Duet." The sound is 

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:53:30 -0000
Subject: Re: Making a trailer out of a LR!!

Most folks use a LWB bucket for the  longer er.. length.
weight is a big problem and, again, most folks make up a frame with angle
iron to which they add, either a LR axle, or something lighter that takes LR
hubs.
One which I thought wouldn't work has independent suspension arms ala
Indespension, with Transit Wheels.
 I'd still prefer Land Rover sized wheels myself tho'.
I know one which sleeps two (hardtop) and cooks etc and looks great... I
know a lot more just open for garden rubbish.
 When my present homebuilt job falls to pieces I will have a go. just looks
so cool.
Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:49:05 -0000
Subject: Re: Buying LR stuff in London?

.>>>>>Be fair,Frank,they *do* go off-road a lot.They can often be seen
parked with at least two wheels on the pavement(sidewalk).<<<<<<

really Mike, you must pay more attention to your writing.
That sentence above as a f'rinstance..
 simply change the words  "... can often be seen..." to "....are usually
seen....."
 see what I mean :-)>

Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:05:46 -0000
Subject: Re: Onslo's Hat

>>>>>>Currently it seem you
have to have a skinny slightly weird young female (insert employment choice)
as the
lead
and proceed to bash large hetero males and fat women. Supporting male lead
must be
gay.<<<

yeah we get stuff like "Veronica's Closet" on late nights.

Funny thing, you lot are masters of the "one liner" gag in comedy shows, but
the storyline. acting and direction is sh*t.

Mind you, all the great comedy shows, "Hancocks Half Hour", "Till Death Us
Do Part", "Monty Python" "Fawlty Towers" "Steptoe and Son" are all in the
past over here as well.

BTW, just to prove how rubbishy the rest are you did make two all-time great
comedies, "Taxi" and "M.A.S.H", just like to show up every other detective
programme you made "Rockford Files" and then - just to show the rest of the
world that anyone can make a mistake you made the greatest TV series ever
made in the history of television : "Hill Street Blues"
 LR content, er I drove it to work today... and back.

Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Faure, Marin" <Marin.Faure@PSS.Boeing.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:28:06 -0800
Subject: British comedy (was Onslo's hat)

Steve Mace wrote:

> My God I didn't know that anyone actually watched that!
> British comedy at it's absolute worst.

I think "Keeping Up Appearances" was a very well done show, particularly when
compared to most American comedy series.  Now if you want to talk about bad
British comedy, let's talk about "Are You Being Served," or "The Benny Hill 
Show."  
Of course, these are very, very old series, so perhaps at the time they were 
done 
they were perceived to be more sophisticated than they are today.

__________________
C. Marin Faure
faurecm@halcyon.com
marin.faure@boeing.com
  (original owner)
  1973 Land Rover Series III-88
  1991 Range Rover Vogue SE

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:54:21 -0000
Subject: Re: Onslo's Hat

>>>>>BTW the car's a Rover 400 series, right? like the four door Honda Civic
we
have over here.<<<<
 yeah, one of the less impressive results of the Honda link with Rover. (You
should have seen the Triumph something, horrible)
driven by people just like Richard, not quite a real Rover (Auntie Rovers
had a very special clientele in this country) but thought of, by the
ignorant, as a cut above F*rd.
Of course, the Honda version was better made and, usually, slightly
cheaper...
go figure

Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:08:48 -0000
Subject: Re: Buying LR stuff in London?

>>>>I guess I have different priorities.  The Land Rover parts have
always gone in checked lugage, the camera gear goes as carry on
and the flim gets smuggled on my body.<<<<<

didn't have any checked luggage.....

Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+            
     I !__|  [_]|_\___   
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV 
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:50:34 -0000
Subject: Re: Onslo's hat

Patricia Routledge is due in our head office next week recording a segment
for "Hetty Wainthrope Investigates" ( she's a private detective with a
difference, NOT, like "murder she wrote"), so I'll ask her.......

Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:39:59 -0800
Subject: RE: British comedy  / EURO SOPHISTICATES LAUGH AT PRUDISH AMERICA

I still think that the first three Black Adder series are some of Britain's
best.  Far superior to Rowan Atkinson's latter work...

Vaguely related to European comedy, I found this gem in my inbox this
morning...
Almost broke a rib, I was laughing so hard.  I'm sure that I've met some of
these people...

Paul in Victoria, BC  Canada

EURO SOPHISTICATES LAUGH AT PRUDISH AMERICANS

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From: "Faure, Marin" <Marin.Faure@PSS.Boeing.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:48:13 -0800
Subject: X-rays and film (was buying LR stuff)

Contrary to what most people believe, the hand baggage X-ray
scanners currently in use around the world will not damage film 
unless you run it through at least 50 times.  What WILL damage 
film are the new checked baggage scanners that are being installed 
at more and more airports.  These $1 million dollar machines are 
designed to detect the new generation of plastic explosives, and as 
a result, the scanning signals are extremely powerful.

The older checked baggage scanners were similar to the hand baggage
scanners, and in numerous tests Kodak and Fuji determined that there
was no danger in sending film stock through as checked baggage.
But last year, David Attenborough lost an entire documentary's 
worth of exposed film when he passed through the Manchester, 
England airport and the cases containing his exposed film was run 
through that airport's brand new, super-power baggage scanner on 
entry into the country.

Fortunately, David's production about tropical birds was insured, 
so he went back to India
or wherever it was for another few months and shot it all again.  As
a result of this experience, I and my film crew now hand-carry all our
16mm motion picture film (15,000 feet of it) on the plane with us on
our way to and from our shooting locations.  It all gets run through the
hand baggage scanners coming and going, but I have never in 20 years of
doing this lost a single frame of film to X-ray fogging or streaking.  On
some of our trips, our unexposed and exposed film is run through scanners
five or ten times: we've never had a problem.

So don't worry about sending film through the hand baggage scanners.  
But NEVER, NEVER put film, unexposed or exposed, in a checked 
piece of baggage.  If you go through an airport with one of the 
new scanners, and most of the major ones have them now, your 
film will be ruined in one pass.  Those lead-lined pouches they sell
to "protect" film are totally useless in these machines, and are not
necessary in the hand-baggage scanners.

By the way, X-rays have no effect whatsoever on video tape.  You can 
send them as checked baggage with no worry.  We've had video 
tapes pass through Heathrow's big new checked baggage scanner 
several times on a trip, and there were no detrimental effects at all.

__________________
C. Marin Faure
faurecm@halcyon.com
marin.faure@boeing.com
  (original owner)
  1973 Land Rover Series III-88
  1991 Range Rover Vogue SE

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From: Rick Grant <rgrant@cadvision.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:30:30 -0700
Subject: Re: X-rays and film (was buying LR stuff)

At 03:48 PM 11/02/99 -0800, Faure, Marin, wrote
> What WILL damage 
>film are the new checked baggage scanners that are being installed 
>at more and more airports. 

Is there any danger to computer stuff packed in baggage?

			Rick Grant

			1959, SII   "VORIZO"  

rgrant@cadvision.com	
www.cadvision.com/rgrant
Rick Grant Associates.  Calgary, Canada
Media and Public Affairs

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From: DNDANGER@aol.com
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:16:27 EST
Subject: Re: life is......now miscellaneous ramblings

In a message dated 99-02-11 02:29:17 EST, you write:

 BUT WHO CARES! I just looked at the current Harbor Freight flyer, and they
 have 115V / 120A mig welders on sale for $199!
 
 ...time to fix the 109...
 
 Charles >>

Glad you mentioned that, someone told me they opened a Harbor Freight outlet
in Albq, Sounds like a great place to spend part of Saturday.

Bill Lawrence
Albq, NM

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From: DNDANGER@aol.com
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:48:02 EST
Subject: Re: Rear window wiper

In a message dated 99-02-11 13:29:18 EST, you write:

<< My personal worst drivers are in Colorado Springs.  the best part is that
they
 blame all the accidents on drivers from California.  In one half hour shuttle
 to the airport I saw ten wrecks all blamed by the shuttle driver on newbies
 from California.  This is probably what made Art Bittermans rig overheat
 there.  Aggressive driving and  snow don't mix.
 Zack >>

I won't argue with you about Colo Springs drivers. My brother in law lives
there and used to have a bumper sticker that said "Pray for me, I drive
Academy." Albuquerque drivers are about the same but have their own special
charm.

Bill Lawrence
Albq, NM

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From: DNDANGER@aol.com
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 20:03:36 EST
Subject: Re: Darwin awards and sighting?

In a message dated 99-02-11 16:50:56 EST, you write:

<< On the second count, I will simply say that if it was a Land Rover, the
fusebox 
 would have been outside in the engine bay. Not likely a .22 round could 
 penetrate a double thickness firewall (and dash panel, etc) unless fired from
 within a barrel. If it was a Series III, the proximity of the fuse box is 
 correct but they certainly could have borrowed one of the other three fuses. 
 
 Besides, anybody daft enough to not carry spare fuses, not to mention 1 each
of 
 every other critical part, *deserves* to be shot, but not necessarily in the 
 testicle.
  >>
My question, What make of vehicle has fused headlamp circuits?

Bill Lawrence

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From: RykRover@aol.com
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 20:20:00 EST
Subject: Re: Darwin awards and sighting?

My `94 D-90 has fused headlites.
RGDS, Rick

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From: DNDANGER@aol.com
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 20:10:26 EST
Subject: Re: Onslo's Hat

In a message dated 99-02-11 18:13:36 EST, you write:

 Funny thing, you lot are masters of the "one liner" gag in comedy shows, but
 the storyline. acting and direction is sh*t.
  >>
If they can show enough T&A and talk dirty they don't need to be able to act.
Did someone say Hell in a hatbox?

Bill Lawrence
Albq, NM

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From: DNDANGER@aol.com
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 20:26:39 EST
Subject: Re: Onslo's Hat

In a message dated 99-02-11 18:13:36 EST, you write:

 BTW, just to prove how rubbishy the rest are you did make two all-time great
 comedies, "Taxi" and "M.A.S.H", just like to show up every other detective
 programme you made "Rockford Files" and then - just to show the rest of the
 world that anyone can make a mistake you made the greatest TV series ever
 made in the history of television : "Hill Street Blues"
  LR content, er I drove it to work today... and back.
 
 Best Cheers
 
 Frank >>

Just to demonstrate the true mentality of american TV viewers one actor made
one of the best and one of the worst series ever. I have trouble reconciling
that George Peppard starred in "Banacek", One of my favorite shows (not meant
for the brain dead viewer) and "The A Team" a gross waste of celluloid based
on pre-adolescent plot themes and the worlds worst marksmanship. (They blew
off enough ammunition to do D-Day all over again and never hit anyone.)
Needless to say Banacek was cancelled faster than the first Neilson moron
could say "Duhh Huh, I didn't get it" And A-team may still be in production
today for all I care.

Required LR content: I drive mine to work and back everyday. (Knock wood)

Bill Lawrence
Albq, NM

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From: "Kevin Campbell" <KCampbell@AdRem.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:31:03 -0800
Subject: RE: British comedy (was Onslo's hat)

No, I don't think Benny Hill was ever considered "sophisticated". No if you
want to really sniff out some unsophisticated comedy, lay your peepers on
"The Dick Emery Show". Very pleased to be able to get BBC America on digital
cable now - Young Ones, Julian Clary, Harry Enfield, Brilliant (AKA The Fast
Show)....

Kevin
Up the road from you in Bothell

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 20:40:12 EST
Subject: 73 s3 swb FS, was 67 Land Rover 88 pick up Series IIA FS RHD

Well, as long as we're offering to sell Rovers, Pansy is FS, and I'm even more
motivated than usual because I found a RR I can afford, and don't want to let
*this* one slip by, too. 
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"

This truck was built between 30 June and 9 July 1973. I have a copy of the
microfiche for vehicles begun in late June and finished by mid July. She was
job number 2982, ordered for British Leyland Jacksonville, which tells us that
was the port of entry. Sold by Baker Motors in Atlanta to a farmer down near
Newnan, who kept it a few years, and painted it tan, probably to match the
rest of the equipment on his place. He sold it to Fred Lawrence of Marietta,
who became acquainted with LRs while in Egypt with President Carter during all
the shuttle diplomacy leading to the Camp David Accords. Fred was in the
Secret Service. He took it to Virginia when he was transferred to Washington
DC and brought it back to Marietta in the late 1980s. I bought it from him as
a basket case in 1992. The first owner had dented the front wings when some of
his help (the term Fred used was 'some of his boys') ran or let her roll into
a fence. some of that damage is still there. 
 I cleaned everything under the hood and installed dynamat over the
bellhousing and in other strategic places to cut down on heat and noise. It
has made a *big* difference. The engine was installed with new diesel motor
mounts, cause they're beefier and didn't cost *that* much more. A double
grooved alternator and fan pulley, with the highly desireable tropical fan,
were also installed, with a new engine wiring harness. The carburettor is a
new Weber.
  The heater control cables and heater all work fine. I replaced the cable
that controls the defroster/footwell function, which required taking up the
floor of the dash tray; not a fun job, but at least mine works! The clock came
out of a VW Scirocco.
Engine is a used rebuilt block from British Bulldog, to which I have added an
unleaded head, weber carb, rebuilt alternator and starter and (soon) water
pump.
Solid frame, lotsa trail dings. $6000. 
Cheers!!
John Dillingham
near Canton, GA
KF4NAS
LROA #1095
SoLaRoS #23
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1
(770)345-3516 

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From: DNDANGER@aol.com
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 20:39:46 EST
Subject: Re: Darwin awards and sighting?

In a message dated 99-02-11 20:21:43 EST, you write:

 My `94 D-90 has fused headlites.
 RGDS, Rick >>
Now that you mention it so does my Rangie and I suppose a lot of higher
quality vehicles do but most don't and I doubt thats the grade of vehicle
these dumbasses were allegedly driving.

Bill Lawrence
Albq, NM

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From: "The Becketts" <hillman@bigpond.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:37:41 +1100
Subject: Onslow's Hat and other comedic stuff

<< Where's the great Al Bundy when we need him!

You know, I've never seen that show (I can't remember the name of it)

>>Or even Archie bunker?

Wasn't Archie Bunker's show (can't remember the name) a take-off of the
British comedy (can't remember the name) starring Warren Mitchell (who now
resides in Australia for 6 months of each year).

But, noting the books that Onslow reads, the FH might stand for some
British scientific establishment.  (What?  You've never checked the titles
on the books?  )

>My God I didn't know that anyone actually watched that!
>Hey, we watch that and the thin Blue Line with "Mr Bean"
>as the inspector.

If you saw "Hettie Wainthrop Investigates" you wouldn't believe the changed
roles of Patricia Routledge (Hyacinth).

I like Rose and Onslsow

Don't forget "Goodness Gracious Me", British comedy starring Indian actors.
They take all the prejudices about Indians and Pakistanis and exaggerate
them.  Excellent!

Also "The Fast Show" - Paul Whitehouse is very good (Frank Elson can't
stand this show).  My daughter loves "Red Dwarf" and regularly emails
Crichton (sp?).

Ron

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From: DNDANGER@aol.com
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:24:12 EST
Subject: Re: Onslow's Hat and other comedic stuff

In a message dated 99-02-11 21:14:08 EST, you write:

 << Where's the great Al Bundy when we need him!
 You know, I've never seen that show (I can't remember the name of it)
 "Married with Children"

 >>Or even Archie bunker?
 Wasn't Archie Bunker's show (can't remember the name) a take-off of the
 British comedy (can't remember the name) starring Warren Mitchell (who now
 resides in Australia for 6 months of each year).
  >>
"All in the Family", Carroll O'Conner, Rob Riener, Sally Struthers (before she
hit size 40)

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From: "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:40:43 -1000
Subject: Re: X-rays and film (was buying LR stuff)

>Is there any danger to computer stuff packed in baggage?

Of being droped, kicked about...probably.  XRays will not effect the disk
medium, but don't let it get near magnets (to include car speakers :-(  ) or
high heat sources.
Pete

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From: "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:50:44 -1000
Subject: Series IIa 1st Gear

Aloha
Month or so back I had asked and received a reply to this question,
unfortunately the machine that has the post is dead.

So, I have a 1970 IIa.  I need to replace the first gear.  Some one has
offered me some gears from an older IIa (62 i think).  What all parts do I
need other then the gear itself.
TIA and again
Pete

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From: John C Mueller Jr <jmueller@who.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:48:14 -0800
Subject: 5 Speed Transmission

I have recently acquired an 85 Range Rover and need a
rebuilt 5 speed manual transmission.  Where can I buy one?

The one that came with the RR was in the back seat in
pieces.  It looks like the rear bearing on the primary
pinion gear failled, taking the rear pinion gear and the
front layshaft gear with it.

Thanks

John

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From: CIrvin1258@aol.com
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 03:41:22 EST
Subject: Re: Onslo's Hat

In a message dated 99-02-11 20:37:02 EST, you write:

<< Just to demonstrate the true mentality of american TV viewers one actor
made
 one of the best and one of the worst series ever. I have trouble reconciling
 that George Peppard starred in "Banacek", One of my favorite shows (not meant
 for the brain dead viewer) and "The A Team" a gross waste of celluloid based
 on pre-adolescent plot themes and the worlds worst marksmanship. (They blew
 off enough ammunition to do D-Day all over again and never hit anyone.)
 >>

Hey! I personally thought that the A-Team was very amusing, from a twisted
kinda point of view. Being ex-Air Force, I can wholly relate to Mr. H.M.
Murdock (the H.M. stood for "Howling Mad"), in that I served with characters
like him...hell, somteimes I could probably pass for him myself!

Rover content (sorta): the SD-1 that I own, was bought from a Mr. Spencer
Clark: Mr. Clark hapened to have been Dwight Schultz's stunt double (who
happened to play Murdock), during the run of A-Team! It still has a Special
Effects Unlimited sticker on its rear. (only reason I haven't fixed her up - I
want a replacement sticker)

Speaking of detective series - how 'bout that one that Burt Reynolds did in
the '60's? I forget the title of it, but I believe it was mid '60's, yet it
was in color. And, how about Cannon?

Charles

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From: CIrvin1258@aol.com
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 03:42:31 EST
Subject: Re: Onslow's Hat and other comedic stuff

In a message dated 99-02-11 22:45:26 EST, you write:

<<  Wasn't Archie Bunker's show (can't remember the name) a take-off of the
  British comedy (can't remember the name) starring Warren Mitchell (who now
  resides in Australia for 6 months of each year).
   >>
 "All in the Family", Carroll O'Conner, Rob Riener, Sally Struthers (before
she
 hit size 40)
 >>

Did 'ya'all know that Carroll O'Conner has his very own auto restoration
business?

Charles

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From: CIrvin1258@aol.com
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 03:44:47 EST
Subject: Re: 5 Speed Transmission

In a message dated 99-02-12 02:51:17 EST, you write:

<< I have recently acquired an 85 Range Rover and need a
 rebuilt 5 speed manual transmission.  Where can I buy one?
 
 The one that came with the RR was in the back seat in
 pieces.  It looks like the rear bearing on the primary
 pinion gear failled, taking the rear pinion gear and the
 front layshaft gear with it.
 
 Thanks
 
 John
 
 >>

John,

I believe that year they were using something based on the LT-77 box - same
thing used in the TR-7, TR-8, SD-1, and a few other cars.

HOWEVER --- I do not know what pieces (if any other than bearings - maybe)
would be interchangeable.

Charles

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From: "Steve Mace" <steve@solwise.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:38:59 -0000
Subject: Re: British comedy (was Onslo's hat)

No... They were (are) appalling as well :-)

On 11 Feb 99, at 15:28, Faure, Marin wrote:

> I think "Keeping Up Appearances" was a very well done show, particularly when
> compared to most American comedy series.  Now if you want to talk about bad
> British comedy, let's talk about "Are You Being Served," or "The Benny Hill 
Show."  
> Of course, these are very, very old series, so perhaps at the time they were 
done 
> they were perceived to be more sophisticated than they are today.

Name: Dr Steve Mace
E-mail: steve@solwise.co.uk
www: http://www.solwise.co.uk
Tel: +44 1482 621888
Fax: +44 1482 621877

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:09:55 +0000
Subject: Re: Onslo's Hat

. (You
should have seen the Triumph something, horrible)
>Of course, the Honda version was better made and, usually, slightly
>cheaper...
Triumph Acclaim/Honda Accord.My old man had one,the basic model.In
which Rover,in their infinite wisdom,in order to produce a basic
model,removed the original adjustable backrest front passenger seat,
and made a special *non* adjustable version.Brilliant business
acumen or what? And yes,speaking as a past owner of a Triumph Dolomite,
it *was* a horrible contraption.
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:12:53 +0000
Subject: Re: Buying LR stuff in London?

> simply change the words  "... can often be seen..." to "....are usually
>seen....."
I bow to your infinitely superior knowledge and experience Mr Shakespeare:-)
Plus,if I never go to London again,it'll be too soon.....
Mike Rooth

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From: alice@atd.crane.navy.mil
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 05:53:12 +0000
Subject: WhereHave AllTheOverdrivesGone...

LRO,
So, the overdrives have soared in price.  Are they no longer made? 
I once read it to be false economy to buy a used OD unit.  Let's 
pretend I have a number of used ones in front of me ...what do I 
look for, expect to pay?  Or ...is it not possible to check one out 
without driving it?  Mark

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From: alice@atd.crane.navy.mil
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:01:15 +0000
Subject: 109 2A HoopSets

LRO,
Are the 109 2A full hoop sets difficult to find?  Is the 109 2A 
three-quarter hoop set actually a full hoop set with some of the 
front bits not attached?  Was there a factory rollbar made to fit 
this vehicle?  How does it mount?   Mark

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