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From: nicholas turck <nicholas.turck@tradition.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 12:00:19 +0000
Subject: swivel hubs

I am just in the process of stripping down the swivel hubs on my RR
project . How hard is the oil seal at the back of the rear bearing to
remove and replace ( with a new one ).

Where do I stuff the grease other than the bearings ?

One of the swivels is a little pitted but I am loathed to replace it.
If I use grease would this solve the problem of the poor seal the
pitting causes ?

I like the comments on haynes manuals I have this feeling I should buy
the workshop manual so I don't have to guess the " and now remove the
hub " bit

nick     93 disco with leaking axle (great)

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From: "Dario Eduardo Marcoppido" <marcoppido@intramed.net.ar>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 09:02:18 -0300
Subject: CAMEL TROPHY
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Hi:

What happen with the Land Rovers who participate in a Camel Trophy once =
this competition ends?
Are they sold? Anyone can buy one of them? At what prices? Are they to =
much destroy?

Dario Eduardo Marcoppido
marcoppido@intramed.net.ar
ICQ # 19368859

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From: "Dario Eduardo Marcoppido" <marcoppido@intramed.net.ar>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 08:55:48 -0300
Subject: Official price list ! ! ! !

Hi you There:

I wish if people around the world who compose this mailing list post
messages concerning prices in your country about Defender 110 SW, Series III
and Series II (used ones from 1965 to 1987)
I'm doing this because here in ARGENTINA, all Land Rover users who want to
sell his vehicles seems to be thiefs or criminals, because they think that
their vehicles are made of gold ! ! ! ! ! ! ! (because of the PRICE ! !)

Thanks a lot.

An non-Land Rover-user, but sonner I'll get one

Dario Eduardo Marcoppido
marcoppido@intramed.net.ar
ICQ # 19368859

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From: Peter Goundry <peterg@aircast.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 07:20:25 -0500
Subject: Importing old Land Rovers from England

<<David wrote: But how do you know the vehicle is any good?  Any
recommendations for a really reliable dealer?>>

Most of the vehicles I have seen that the dealers prepare are either low
mileage ambulances which have spent most of their lives garaged or
vehicles that were never issued to active units, hence the quality. If
you head to Fradley Park in England, you will see those others that were
used/abused. I have gotten the impression that the military dealers pick
over new releases before the general public ever see them or that they
have 'pipelines' that ensure they get the quality. All the big dealers
seem to recondition then sell the vehicles on all over the world. The
best way of ensuring you get what you want is to take advantage of the
cheap fares to England and go visit. LRO, LRW, & LRM will provide you
with a list of dealers. This also provides you with a nice long weekend
off!

Peter Goundry
67 GS109 IIA, 73 Lightweight, 97 D90 #127

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From: Peter Goundry <peterg@aircast.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 07:26:24 -0500
Subject: 

<<John wrote: . So there are several thousand LRs available over there
in all conditions some almost unused. I believe it was one company that
bought them but I don't remember the name.>>

John, they do advertise in LRO. They are situated at Fradley Park, just
off the A38 between Lichfield & Burton on Trent. Most of the vehicles
there are Series III's which cannot be brought into the US. The series
IIA's there are mainly ambulances and are in pretty poor condition (see
previous post about the dealers). Check out
http://www.aircast.com/peterg/billings.htm
<http://www.aircast.com/peterg/billings.htm>  for some photographs of
the Land Rovers at Fradley

Peter Goundry
67 GS109 IIA, 73 Lightweight, 97 D90 #127

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From: "oldhaven" <oldhaven@mail.biddeford.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 07:47:16 -0500
Subject: washing things

Just one thing to add, courtesy of John Steinbeck.  He would hang the 
bucket of clothes from a stout bungee in the back of his camper so they 
got seriously agitated all day.  Seems quite fitting.  This was pre plastic 
bucket with tight fitting lid, so probably led to a few spills.

Ron Franklin
Bowdoin, Maine, USA

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From: Peter Goundry <peterg@aircast.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 07:52:57 -0500
Subject: Importing old Land Rovers from England

<<Peter wrote: How much was the shipping?>>

The two most common ways are container & RoRo. The container is more
expensive unless you share the cost with someone else. The big advantage
of the container is multiple vehicles and as many LR bits as you can
safely get in there bringing the per vehicle cost way down. 

As far as I know, if you use a RoRo then the vehicle must be empty (can
anybody confirm this?).

The cost, excluding duty, should be below $1000, especially if you can
handle the customs clearance and stripping the container yourself (never
been able to do this at Newark).

Peter Goundry
67 GS109"IIA, 73 Lightweight, 97 D90 #127

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From: "oldhaven" <oldhaven@mail.biddeford.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 07:55:43 -0500
Subject: Zen Travel

I have been reading Ted Simon's "Travels with Jupiter" recently.  He 
spent four years traveling around the world on an old Triumph motorcycle, 
but the book is as much about motorcylcles as is "Zen and the Art of 
Motorcycle Maintenance".  A great read which has caused a few people 
to give up normal life and take to the road.  What other books have any of 
you read that fall into this category of life changing road literature?

I  am also  looking for a source for the book Travel Vans by John Speed, 
which was discussed on LRO aeons ago.  Can anyone give me a hand 
here.  It discusses expedition mods in depth, according to the 
description and would be pretty useful to me right now.

Ron Franklin
Bowdoin, Maine, USA

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From: John Cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 09:14:04 -0400
Subject: Re: Shipping rovers/parts from the UK.

Peter Hope wrote:
> >  Can you stop in Pittsburgh and pick up the Fort Pitt Land Rover Group?
> >We could use some normally priced LR parts too!
> No problem, passenger compartment on the C-5 carries 73.  Not counting cargo
> ramps we have 1459" x 228" x 162" of cargo space so I feel confident that we
> should be able to get a couple dozen 109's in her.
> Ya know, the AF is always looking to get more flight time.  Way it usually
> works is we pay for the gas for them to haul us around.  So all we need to
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> Someone on the list recently mentioned doing this, getting a container.  Am
> curiour as to what the $$ ran for the project?

I was told recently that a container from Hamburg, Germany to Halifax,
Nova Scotia was $1900 Canadian or about $1300 US.
US ports of entry would likely be a bit more due to higher port charges.
John and Muddy

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 08:28:48 EST
Subject: Re: Weber icing question

In a message dated 3/17/99 1:51:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, urbncby@sgi.net
writes:

> Mine would do this once and a while. It would start and idle but, any
>  throttle would make it stall.  It was water in the fuel tank.  

I think that's what's going on here.  First day was BAD.  Added some drying
agent and gas (3 gal).  Second day was bad.  Added more drying agent. Third
day was not too bad.  Now I've filled up (5 more gal) and it seems to be ok.

Nate

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From: dbobeck@ushmm.org
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 99 08:59:47 -0500
Subject: Re[2]: Some of the most fun I've had with my clothes on: 

> Anybody that thinks this is booooooring has obviously never had half a 
>plane dissappear from underneath them... it does make you think twice 
>about life in general.

I don't think boring would be the right term to describe that but I bet the 
novelty wore off pretty quick...

dave

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From: "Peeler, Gilbert W" <Gilbert.W.Peeler@WGP.TWC.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 07:58:09 -0600
Subject: Rover CB Channel?

We recently picked CB channel 35 as the main radio channel for the ONSLRS
Uwharrie Safari rally in N.C. Easter week-end.  I posted the question on
several other lists about promoting Channel 35 as a "un-official" Rover
channel.  Many of us have CB radios for trail rides and I thought it would
be nice to have a "meeting" place when you pass on the road.  I have
received several responses 
indicating that a few clubs already use channel 7 for outings, but no one
seems to know why it was chosen.  Is there a most commonly used channel
already? If not do we need one and how do we promote it?

Wayne Peeler
Appomattox, Va.
64 IIA 88 (his)
97 D90 SW (hers)

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From: "Andy Grafton" <andyg@sherco.co.za>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 15:35:34 +0200
Subject: Re: Importing old Land Rovers from England

> As far as I know, if you use a RoRo then the vehicle must be empty (can
> anybody confirm this?).

>From experiences UK<>South Africa on a ro-ro the vehicle does 
not have to be empty but if you leave anything in it, the contents 
will probably be stolen as theft is a huge problem.

All the best,

Andy

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From: "Brad Harris" <brad.harris@westernsouthernlife.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 09:10:55 -0500
Subject: Re: RR hybrid conversion HELP PLEASE

Piet,

Interesting solution to the dead SLU on your RR. I am running OME HD springs
in the rear of my RR so if my SLU goes out I'll just ditch it and I won't
have to worry about sagging. In fact, it could be dead now and I'd probably
not even know with those springs. I liked the soft ride of the original
springs but when the rear was heavily loaded (which is very often) the
vehicle handled so bad because so much weight was being supported in the
center of the axle.

Andy,

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From: Piet Fourie <pah@saao.ac.za>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 16:39:06 +0200
Subject: Re: RR hybrid conversion HELP PLEASE

Brad Harris wrote:
> Piet,
> Interesting solution to the dead SLU on your RR. I am running OME HD
> springs
> in the rear of my RR so if my SLU goes out I'll just ditch it and I
> won't
> have to worry about sagging. In fact, it could be dead now and I'd
> probably
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> center of the axle.
> Andy,
[spamkill: weight loss input: %s]	 > Garbage in You're right. I hadn't 
even thought about the weight loss
[spamkill: weight loss input: %s]	 > You're right. I hadn't even thought 
about the weight loss going to the
Web: http://ma.saao.ac.za/~pah

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From: nicholas turck <nicholas.turck@tradition.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 15:03:12 +0000
Subject: hubs and stuff

I am just in the process of stripping down the swivel hubs on my RR
project . How hard is the oil seal at the back of the rear bearing to
remove and replace ( with a new one ).

Where do I stuff the grease other than the bearings ?

One of the swivels is a little pitted but I am loathed to replace it.
If I use grease would this solve the problem of the poor seal the
pitting causes ?

I like the comments on haynes manuals I have this feeling I should buy
the workshop manual so I don't have to guess the " and now remove the
hub " bit

nick     93 disco with leaking axle (great)

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:04:39 EST
Subject: Oil pressure sending unit (again)

Ok,

Before I go out and buy a Trico sending unit, (for 12V gauge),  can I assume
it will give a fairly accurate reading with my Smith's gauge or will I have to
bite the bullet and replace sending unit and gauge.

Sounds like the only other option is to buy the $150 (!!!!!) sending unit from
RN

Nate

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From: Niall Duncan Forbes <nforbes@is2.dal.ca>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 11:06:49 -0400 (AST)
Subject: Re: Shipping rovers/parts from the UK.

On Wed, 17 Mar 1999, John Cranfield wrote:

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From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <rover@pinn.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:46:31 -0500
Subject: series washing machine

>TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>

>> I am sure you havelaundered your smalls in a bag of soapy water as you 
>>drive.  John and Muddy

>That thought never occured to me.  So please describe your method in 
>greater detail.

>I just hand wash mine in one of my car's sinks and hang them to dry.  
>Your method sounds more interesting.

Land Rover has an 'official' publication, the "Manual for Africa".  In it,
they suggest putting the articles, washing powder and a suitable amount of
water in a sealable container, "then driving 50 miles, after which the
clothes will be clean!  Of course water must then be available for
rinsing".  This might not work on the Interstate over here, but what would
pass for primary arterial routes in most of Africa would serve just fine.
Just be careful of the spin cycle....  Cheers

  *----jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary----*
  |                                                   |
  |             A. P. ("Sandy") Grice                 |
  |    Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
  |     Association of North American Rover Clubs     |
  |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
  |(O)757-622-7054, (H)757-423-4898, FAX 757-622-7056 |
  |                                                   |
  |   (original owner)        (pre-production)        | 
  *----1972 Series III------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)----*

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From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <rover@pinn.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:46:32 -0500
Subject: Mind you're "P's" and "F's"

 Nate <NADdMD@aol.com> wrote:

>Sandy, is that BSF or BSP?  I can find an adaptor for BSP, BSF may take
>some doing...

My mistake...it's British Standard *Pipe,* not "fine".  If you can find a
fitting in your area, good on ya', mate.  Searched everywhere down here for
nought.  I had Robert Davis braise up a fitting for me, as he had a whole
bunch of esoteric brass hydraulic fittings left over from his MG days....

I bought a used Smiths hydraulic guage at Bowie last year for $5 and a
gen-you-wine Smith's fitting kit for another five - still in the blister
pak.  However, I needed a double male (1/4"??) BSP fitting to make it all
work.

Cheers

  *----jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary----*
  |                                                   |
  |             A. P. ("Sandy") Grice                 |
  |    Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
  |     Association of North American Rover Clubs     |
  |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
  |(O)757-622-7054, (H)757-423-4898, FAX 757-622-7056 |
  |                                                   |
  |   (original owner)        (pre-production)        | 
  *----1972 Series III------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)----*

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From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <rover@pinn.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:46:35 -0500
Subject: series washing machine

>TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>

>> I am sure you havelaundered your smalls in a bag of soapy water as you 
>>drive.  John and Muddy

>That thought never occured to me.  So please describe your method in 
>greater detail.

>I just hand wash mine in one of my car's sinks and hang them to dry.  
>Your method sounds more interesting.

Land Rover has an 'official' publication, the "Manual for Africa".  In it,
they suggest putting the articles, washing powder and a suitable amount of
water in a sealable container, "then driving 50 miles, after which the
clothes will be clean!  Of course water must then be available for
rinsing".  This might not work on the Interstate over here, but what would
pass for primary arterial routes in most of Africa would serve just fine.
Just be careful of the spin cycle....  Cheers

  *----jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary----*
  |                                                   |
  |             A. P. ("Sandy") Grice                 |
  |    Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
  |     Association of North American Rover Clubs     |
  |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
  |(O)757-622-7054, (H)757-423-4898, FAX 757-622-7056 |
  |                                                   |
  |   (original owner)        (pre-production)        | 
  *----1972 Series III------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)----*

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:43:37 -0500
Subject: Re: series washing machine

>Just be careful of the spin cycle....  Cheers

I dunno....New England Winter..icy road - no problem!

Been there,  done this...fun!

               aj"It was in 2WD, though..."r

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From: "Huub Pennings" <hps@fs1-kfih.azr.nl>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 16:44:34 +0100
Subject: Capstan winch parts

Hello roverists,

After consulting the achives I have come to the conclusion tha I 
might not be the only one who has a capstan winch without the 
attachment bits to the front of the engine.

Is there anyone out there who has succesfully fabrikated a drive 
gear of his own design and wants to share his wisdom?

Regards,

Huub Pennings
(private e-mail to jpennings@worldonline.nl

e-mail adress
Pennings@kfih.azr.nl

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:53:23 -0500
Subject: Re: Capstan winch parts

Re: Attachment bits:

Do you have the driveshaft? I've got a sketched-up design on a drive plate, but
I've never had anyone to test with.

Talk to me...I can make one of these if you're intrested. -ajr

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From: "Huub Pennings" <hps@fs1-kfih.azr.nl>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 17:08:23 +0100
Subject: Re: Capstan winch parts

Hello AJR

> Do you have the driveshaft? I've got a sketched-up design on a drive plate, 
but
> I've never had anyone to test with.
> Talk to me...I can make one of these if you're intrested. -ajr

I just have the winch (brandnew)  Aeroparts, none of the other parts 
are available.

By looking at the scematics I figured it would be most easy to 
copy the Fairey design, it's more simple  then the original 
Aeroparts.
 
Regards,

Huub Pennings
(private e-mail to jpennings@worldonline.nl

e-mail adress
Pennings@kfih.azr.nl

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 99 08:13:31 -0800
Subject: Re: Rover CB Channel?

Most all the West coast clubs seem to use channel 7 as the standard 
channel.  My local Triumph club also uses the same channel on outings.

SO why did you pick 35 as a proposed North American "standard" channel?

TeriAnn Wakeman                                  Border to Border
Santa Cruz, California                          Expedition Society 
twakeman@cruzers.com                           "Live the adventure"
http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman           http://www.bordertoborder.com

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 11:14:04 -0500
Subject: Re: Capstan winch parts

Re: Aeroparts winch:

Ok, the biggest bit is finding a driveshaft that can take the RPM. an ordinary
PTO shaft won't as they're rated for 540/1100 RPM, so cutting one of them down
is not an option.

The bit I designed up was the plate to give an attachment point to the front of
the engine (this is what you want, right?).

Finding small U-joints is a problem... -ajr

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From: John Cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 12:57:57 -0400
Subject: Re: series washing machine

"A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" wrote:
> >TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
> >> I am sure you havelaundered your smalls in a bag of soapy water as you
>          [ truncated by lro-lite (was 7 lines)]
> >I just hand wash mine in one of my car's sinks and hang them to dry.
> >Your method sounds more interesting.
> Land Rover has an 'official' publication, the "Manual for Africa".  In it,
> they suggest putting the articles, washing powder and a suitable amount of
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> pass for primary arterial routes in most of Africa would serve just fine.
> Just be careful of the spin cycle....  Cheers

Ask Marty Amedeo about the spin cycle at Winter Romp if you ever get a
chance.
John and Muddy

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From: dbobeck@ushmm.org
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 99 10:38:50 -0500
Subject: Re: Oil pressure sending unit (again) 

>Before I go out and buy a Trico sending unit, (for 12V gauge),  can I assume 
>it will give a fairly accurate reading with my Smith's gauge or will I have 
>to bite the bullet and replace sending unit and gauge.

>Sounds like the only other option is to buy the $150 (!!!!!) sending unit from 
>RN

>Nate

Nate, Nate, hold the frickin phone there bud! Don't go spending $150 bucks on 
the oil pressure sender. Look, you've got several options. 
1. Find a parts car with one. All NAS late IIa and SIII came with a Smiths 
Electric Oil Pressure Guage. Somebody's bound to have one of these laying 
around. I would let you have mine but it fried itself underwater and took the 
guage with it. Which leads me to my next point.(and the route I would and did 
go) 

2. Go ahead and get the bits off of an early IIa that came with a Smiths dual 
Oil Pressure/Temperature Guage. You can use the dual guage, which means you 
will have more parts to acquire, or you can get a Smiths capillary oil pressure 
only guage. These are available at every british car event ever held, along 
with all the hoses, etc. I got a secondhand dual guage, and both electrical 
senders died shortly after I got it (btw it was free, with all hoses intact and 
all the fittings, but with broken glass and a dented face. I bought a busted 
guage with good glass at Carlisle for $2, and straightened the face of the 
guage and painted it out. Now I have a really accurate guage instead of some 
electrical POS. Even a rebuilt Smiths Dual Guage will run you less than the 
price of that fuggin sender unit.
Go for it. I did. BTW the oil pressure only guages were about $50. They 
generally do not go bad, and the reading is pretty much bound to be accurate.

later
dave

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From: Keith Cutler <keith_cutler@csgsystems.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:10:04 -0700
Subject: Re: Heads up! Staffing Changes at RN

Charlie is the parts manager for the new (not yet open) LR dealership
near Boulder, Colorado.  Local LR expert Ron Pederson played a major
role in getting this business off the ground and will run their service
facility.

Keith Cutler
1961 SII SWB

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From: "Faure, Marin" <Marin.Faure@PSS.Boeing.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 09:17:33 -0800
Subject: Re: Importing old Land Rovers from England

From: "david hope" <davidjhope@email.msn.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 07:39:35 -0600
Subject: Importing old Land Rovers from England

>Peter Goudry wrote that it is cheaper to buy an old Land Rover from a a
reputable dealer in England who specializes in used military vehicles:
But how do you know the vehicle is any good?

Buying a used Series Land Rover in the UK can be a good deal, 
but there are a couple of things to keep in mind.  One is that, 
for the most part, the vehicles will all be right hand drive.  That's 
not really a problem, but it does take some getting used to if 
you drive on the right side of the road.  A right-hand drive Land 
Rover is easier to work on as far as the brake and clutch masters 
are concerned because they are out in the middle of the engine bay 
instead of being tucked in under the left wing.

The other thing to be very concerned about if buying an old vehicle 
of any kind in the UK is rust.  They use salt on the roads in the UK, and 
vehicles can develop severe rust problems if they are not carefully looked 
after.  In the case of an old UK Land Rover, rotting bulkheads, frame 
outriggers, and door frames are very, very common.  There are several 
reputable Series restorers in the UK, some of whom advertise in Land 
Rover Owner and the other UK Land Rover magazines (a friend of mine 
in the UK just sent me a relatively new magazine called LRM).  
But even though the prices of a used Series in the UK can be very attractive, 
by the time you add on the shipping charges you're going to have a pretty fair
 investment.  It would be a shame to go to all that trouble and 
expense only to find you've got a bunch of rust under that new paint.

Air fares to the UK, especially from the east coast, are not all that high, 
so I think it would be a wise investment if you're serious about importing 
an older Series vehicle to line up some dealers and vehicles and then fly 
over and look at them and test drive them. There are plenty to choose from, 
but the odds of getting a problem vehicle are very, very high if you buy 
sight unseen.  Remember, Land Rovers in the UK are not considered 
cult vehicles or collectibles as they are in the US.  For the most part, 
Series Land Rovers in the UK were used by farmers, the military, 
building contractors, etc., and they were generally used very hard.  
While there are people in the UK who look on old Land Rovers the same 
way many people in the US do, for the most part, the vehicles spent most 
of their lives earning a living in one way or another.  If you were shopping 
for an early '70s Ford or Chevy pickup truck in the US, what are your odds 
of finding a really nice one?  Pretty slim, unless you come across one that's 
been restored.  Most of them that are even still running are going to be 
beaters.  Would you buy a '60s or '70s pickup in the US sight-unseen?  The 
situation is no different in the UK with Land Rovers.

In the course of my visits to the UK, several of which have been spent in the 
Yorkshire Dales and the Lake District, I've seen tons of old Series Land 
Rovers, 
mostly Series IIIs.  Most were still running, and many were still being used on 
a 
daily basis.  But all the ones I've seen were obviously well used, with bent 
panels, rusted frames, and so on.  All these things can be fixed, of course, 
but 
I would think you'd want to know exactly what you're getting for your money.  A
good friend of mine who works at Airbus in Toulouse bought a cottage in 
northern 
Scotland.  He wanted a utility vehicle to work on the property, so he spent 
some 
time shopping in the UK for a Series IIa in decent condition.  My friend is no 
slouch 
when it comes to vehicles, and he knows what to look for.  He eventually found 
what seemed like a very nice IIa at a good price.  He bought it, and
it is doing a good job for him.  But all sorts of things have gone wrong with 
it and 
have had to be fixed, all the result of the vehicle simply being old and 
well-used.  
So fly over and look before you plunk down your money.

__________________
C. Marin Faure
faurecm@halcyon.com
marin.faure@boeing.com
  (original owner)
  1973 Land Rover Series III-88
  1991 Range Rover Vogue SE

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From: John Cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 13:20:45 -0400
Subject: Re: Oil pressure sending unit (again)

NADdMD@aol.com wrote:
> Ok,
> Before I go out and buy a Trico sending unit, (for 12V gauge),  can I assume
> it will give a fairly accurate reading with my Smith's gauge or will I have to
> bite the bullet and replace sending unit and gauge.
> Sounds like the only other option is to buy the $150 (!!!!!) sending unit from
> RN

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> RN
> Nate

Nate I have used a generic sending unit in the past and it seemed to
work
OK. at very worst it will give you an indication of what the pressure is
doing if not a reading in PSI
John and Muddy

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From: "Wolfe, Charles" <CWolfe@smdc.org>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 11:24:51 -0600
Subject: Tire Recommendations - BFG AT vs TracEDge

Baby needs a new set of shoes.

Looking at BF Goodrich AT vs TracEdge
235/85/16
for 109 PU for northern MN.  Use a daily driver but also spend a lot of time
in snow and mud in the county forest land and national forests.  Want a good
aggressive snow/mud tire but one that is good for the 30 highway miles into
town.

Opinions suggestions greatly appreciated.

Cwolfe

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From: dbobeck@ushmm.org
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 99 12:18:31 -0500
Subject: Re[2]: Capstan winch parts 

>Finding small U-joints is a problem... -ajr

Al- 

McMaster Carr.

Dave

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From: "Wolfe, Charles" <CWolfe@smdc.org>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 11:50:14 -0600
Subject: RE: Tire Recommendations - BFG AT vs TracEDge

I am also strongly considering the Goodyear ATS 235/85/16.  Anyone with
experience with this tire?

Cwolfe

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From: "oldhaven" <oldhaven@mail.biddeford.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 12:59:36 -0500
Subject: Re: [EXPMOD] Zen Travel

On 17 Mar 99, at 7:55, oldhaven wrote:

> I have been reading Ted Simon's "Travels with Jupiter" recently. 

This should of course read "Jupiter's Travels".  I was thinking about 
another book in the same category, "Travels with Charlie", by Steinbeck, 
and had an age related episode.

Ron

oldhaven@gwi.net
Bowdoin, Maine, USA

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 13:00:04 EST
Subject: Re: Oil pressure sending unit (again)

In a message dated 3/17/99 12:09:28 PM Eastern Standard Time,
dbobeck@ushmm.org writes:

> Nate, Nate, hold the frickin phone there bud! Don't go spending $150 bucks
on 
>  the oil pressure sender.

No chance of that.  I'd replace the whole job for $30 (or run a manual gauge)
before going that route.  $150?  It should change the oil itself for that!

Nate

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From: Allan Smith <smitha@candw.lc>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 14:12:41 -0500
Subject: Re: Tire Recommendations - BFG AT vs TracEDge

That's what I'm looking at too, but have to import. I'd would appreciate
knowing what the ballpark cost of the TracEdge would be.
Allan
St. Lucia

>Looking at BF Goodrich AT vs TracEdge
>235/85/16

>Cwolfe

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From: Peter Goundry <peterg@aircast.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 13:21:32 -0500
Subject: Importing old Land Rovers from England

<<Marin wrote: Buying a used Series Land Rover in the UK can be a good
deal, but there are a couple of things to keep in mind. One is that, for
the most part, the vehicles will all be right hand drive. >>

Civilian yes, military not necessarily. That's why I prefer the military
dealers as a great many of the vehicles they have were originally built
for units stationed in Europe. The rust problem is also why many of the
109's coming in to the US were originally ambulances. Most have not
suffered the ravages of time as many of the original 109's have.

Peter  Goundry
67 GS109" IIA, 73 Lightweight, 97 D90 #127

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From: TeriAnn Wakeman <twakeman@cruzers.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 99 10:20:37 -0800
Subject: Re: Tire Recommendations - BFG AT vs TracEDge

>Looking at BF Goodrich AT vs TracEdge
;
All terrains like the mud terrains have much stronger side walls than 
TrackEdge.  If I were going to run in places where the side walls of my 
tyres were going to be poked at with sharp rock edges & such or if I were 
going to be running at very low air pressures at times, I would go for 
the tyre with reinforced sidewalls.  So given the choice between the two 
I would go for the All Terrains.  

My car currently has Mud Terrains.  I got well over 50,000 miles on the 
last set and they grip well on sliprock and granite rock crawling.

TeriAnn Wakeman               If you send me direct mail, please
Santa Cruz, California        start the subject line with TW - 
twakeman@cruzers.com           I will be sure to read the message

http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman   

"How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare"
Amelia Earhart 1898-1937

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From: "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 08:30:22 -1000
Subject: Re: Oil pressure sending unit (again)

>Sounds like the only other option is to buy the $150 (!!!!!) sending unit
from
>RN

Nate, did you check the prices overseas?  Small past like that, shipping
shouldn't be much.

Pete

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From: "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 08:35:45 -1000
Subject: Re: Capstan winch parts

>Ok, the biggest bit is finding a driveshaft that can take the RPM. an
ordinary
>PTO shaft won't as they're rated for 540/1100 RPM, so cutting one of them
down
>is not an option.

Just curious, is the drive shaft going to be the same/similar as the one
that drives my Koenig Winch?  Shaft off the crank pully?
If so and it's needed I can snap some pictures and make measurments for
anyone.
I am very anal when it comes to keeping track of my parts, shaft is in a bag
labled 'shaft' in the box labled 'winch' stored with the other boxes of
parts from the front of the vehicle.
My first resto projects I just put stuff where ever.  Moved about a bunch
during the time.  Some how or other I managed to 'loose' an almost complete
Spitfire.  hahahaha

Pete

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From: Jeff Gauvin <jeff.gauvin@lsil.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 11:38:09 -0700
Subject: Re: Kona Coffee

>From: Faye and Peter Ogilvie <ogilvi@hgea.org>
>Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 17:12:52
>Pete, What shameless hustling of my fine locally grown native grown product.  
>Just getting ready to roast the last of this years crop, once this is gone
>no more until probably October when the new crop comes in.  Still only $15
>a pound plus shipping.

Hmmm... I'll be on the Big Island in early May. Maybe I should
drop by for a Cup o' Joe and to watch your LR-intensive operation
in action.

Do you roast the beans on your manifold?

--
Jeff Gauvin
'94 D90

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 13:38:41 -0500
Subject: Re: Oil pressure sending unit (again)

Does anyone in the Boston area have a car with one of these on it that works?

Seems to me that there has GOT to be a standard unit out there with the right
resistance range, and rethreading it should be no big deal (ah, the joys of a
lathe....).

Hell, for $150 i'll make the damned things...8*)

Seriously, I'd be glad to get a resistance measurment or three from someone if
possible. I have the same gauge on my RR, but its sensor is gerflatz too..

               ajr

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From: "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 08:41:47 -1000
Subject: Re: Tire Recommendations - BFG AT vs TracEDge

>Looking at BF Goodrich AT vs TracEdge
>235/85/16

Have you looked at the BFG MT's?

As far as the AT's they are a great tire.  Pretty road smooth for a truck.
OK traction off pavement.  I had over 50k on the set that was on my Scout
when I sold it and they still looked great.
Pete

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 13:38:12 EST
Subject: Re: Oil pressure sending unit (again)

In a message dated 3/17/99 1:32:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
phope@hawaii.rr.com writes:

> Nate, did you check the prices overseas?  Small past like that, shipping
>  shouldn't be much.

I got the same price from RN, DAP and BP.  Maybe I'll give LR supermarket a
ring.

Nate

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 14:02:47 -0500
Subject: Re: Capstan winch parts

SHould be pretty-well the same thing if the Aeroparts winch was originally
rigged to run from the crank pulley.

It'd be a matter of shaft end size and the slip sections, along with U-joint
clearance through the chassis to the front of the engine.

A bit of 1-inch shafting with the requisite U-joints on the ends would likeky do
it. SOme sort of slip coupling would also be required, but that should be easy
enough to rig. Balancing the whole lot would be a bit of a nightmare, but even
that's not impossible.

               ajr

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:53:36 +0100
Subject: Landy engine numbers

Once upon a time, a series diesel motor was called a 2.25 liter - 2.25
being a near round-up of its  cubic capacity. So too with the 2.5l Then
we had the V8, which at least meant it had 8 cylinders.

Later came the 200tdi 300tdi and now the TD5 - all of which I understand
are 2.5 liter c.c. so what does the 200, 300, and 5 mean?

I hope that does not mean that the Landy has gone completly yuppie with
fancy abbreviations.

Where will they ever find space on a truck for the decals advertising -

Land Rover, defender, 110" LWB, County Station Wagon, Shine, 4 cylinder
8 valves EFI, EGR, Catalysator, 5 speed 4WD, GXL laa-dee-dah...

I've pulled the prententious decals off my new defender, the 110,
defender, Tdi and county stripes - I am happy to see it just as any
other Land Rover. period.

Adrian Redmond

CHANNEL 6 TELEVISION DENMARK       (Adrian Redmond)
Foerlevvej 6  Mesing  DK-8660  Skanderborg  Denmark
telephone (office)                  +45 86 57 22 66
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telefacsimile / data                +45 86 57 24 46
mobile GSM (EFP unit)               +45 40 74 75 64
mobile GSM (admin)                  +45 40 54 22 66
mobile NMT                          +45 30 86 75 66
e-mail                       channel6@post2.tele.dk
      Visit the "Native Experience" website at 
          http://www.channel6.dk/native
Contact the "Native Experience" film unit in Alaska
          telephone   +1 (907) 230 0359
          e-mail      channel6@alaska.net
Visit our homepages!                www.channel6.dk

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 12:58:15 EST
Subject: Re: Oil pressure sending unit (again)

In a message dated 3/17/99 12:19:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,
john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca writes:

> Nate I have used a generic sending unit in the past and it seemed to
>  work
>  OK. at very worst it will give you an indication of what the pressure is
>  doing if not a reading in PSI

That's kinda what I'm looking for.  I picked up a $10 sending unit which runs
from 0 to 80 psi-they also had 0-60 sending units.  I figure if it looks like
it runs too high, I'll add a small resistor in the circuit and bring it down a
bit.  Right now, I run up to 25 psi at cold idle, on the freeway, hot idle you
name it.  I figure the old unit won't move past that point.

Nate

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From: "Jeffrey A. Berg" <jeff@purpleshark.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 14:42:13 -0500
Subject: Re: series washing machine

John and Muddy write:
> Ask Marty Amedeo about the spin cycle at Winter Romp if you ever get a
> chance.

Or ask him how he got his shorts clean afterwards... ;-)

jab
==
 Jeffrey A. Berg     Purple Shark Media        Rowayton, CT
                    jeff@purpleshark.com
                     ==================

"Intelligent" and "Talented" don't sound especially
pejorative. That's why the talentless and stupid had
to invent the word "arrogant."
	Kristen Brennan, Buffalo Girls
	http://www.jitterbug.com/pages/buffalo.html

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From: "Russell G. Dushin" <rgdushin@blackcat.cat.syr.edu>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 14:57:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Capstan Winch Parts

Hubb-

Last time I checked (about a year ago) certain Fairey (Superwinch)
capstan parts were still available in the UK (don't bother with the
US distributors..they're totally clueless).  You should be able
to (at least) score the drive dog and big crank end nut for the
drive side of your drive shaft.

I trimmed down the shaft on mine - it was a new unit but made for
a Defender, without a recessed grille, and was longer by several
inches.  The design is tres simple...just a shaft with a ball
on the end (that fits snug in the drive dog), and the ball is held
to the shaft by a perpendicular (to the shaft) stud that runs all
the way through the ball and protrudes out about 1/4-1/2" on either
side.  This stud fits into the drive dog's slots...the drive dog
is essentially a U-shaped cup, uh, like this:

                    ___    ___
                   |   |  |   |
                   |   |__|   |
                   |          |
                   |__________|

edge on.  The shaft also has a groove in it for the set pin in
the U-joint coupling that connects the shaft to the drive coming
out of your winch.

The U-joint coupling may also be available (but will it fit?) or
you'll have to source it elsewhere (like Dave said, McMaster maybe).
YOu'll also need some sort of guide, and a big spring so's it retracts
like it's supposed to.  The spring fits over the shaft between the
aforementioned ball and the guide - which is simply a plate...with a U
shaped groove...mine bolts to a tab I had welded to my cross member and is
adjustable.  Uh, the spring I have is sorta cone shaped...wider at
the end that meets the guide and shaft diameter on the end that rides
on the ball.

Give Superwinch UK a call and see what they've got.  In sum, from crank
to winch, you need:

drive dog
crank end nut (different for defenders and series rigs)
spring
guide plate
drive shaft
coupling

OH, and presumably (not sure here) your aeroparts winch has shear
pins that fit within the coupling (and into a hole in the drive end of
your winch's shaft).  This is the way the Fairey shearpins work, at 
least...implication being you need more than just a regular ol' U-joint.
Um, there's also set pins in either end of the U-joint bit.

If need be I can measure up the diameter of the shaft coming out of my
Fairey...

hope this helps,
rd/nige

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From: MRogers315@aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 15:26:31 EST
Subject: Re-RR hybrid converion HELP PLEASE

Nick asked.

>Do I keep the RR steering column so that i can keep the power steering?

I used the top half of the Land Rover outer column sleeved into the bottom
half of the RR outer and the whole RR inner column this has worked well for 6
years now.

>Do I re use the servo , etc. from the RR ?
I used the LR servo and master cylinder powering RR disk brakes with no
problems.

>Do I need the load leveler strut ( I hope not as my one has gone )

No

>What fuel tank do I use should it go in  the load space. ?

I used a standard swb ser 3 tank mounted under the drivers seat, slightly
modified to miss the radius arm bracket on the chassis.

>At what point do I fix a roll cage in ?

Whilst you are building up the body. Do not forget to weld strengthening
plates onto the chassis as per ARC yearbook.

>How does the body attach ?

I used standard replacement outriggers. Watch that the bulkhead ones do not
foul the front radius arms.

If you are interested I will email you the text of the article I wrote for
LROI on the construction of my hybrid. It was written to be an interesting
read more than a guide to building a hybrid but contains a lot of useful
information, as well as a lot of grief.

Mike Rogers
Lightweight/Range Rover hybrid

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From: dbobeck@ushmm.org
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 99 15:38:10 -0500
Subject: Re[2]: Tire Recommendations - BFG AT vs TracEDge 

>I am also strongly considering the Goodyear ATS 235/85/16.  Anyone with 
>experience with this tire?

>Cwolfe

>From what I have seen the AT's are little better than worthless in the mud. 
I've been pretty happy with my Dunlop Radial Rover RT's which are very similar 
in design and tread pattern to the Trac Edge. I would venture as far to say 
that I will probably go with MT's next time. I don't think the wear factor si 
really that much greater for the increas ein off-raod ability.

later
dave

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From: "Neil Brownlee" <metal_thrasher@offroading.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 20:58:07 -0000
Subject: Sore Left Foot....

Sigh,

I am having to drive my purely offroad LR on road due to the fact that
someone ran me off the road in the Exploder. I am V. annoyed by this because
it is the second accident in 2 months in my house where the w*nker who
caused it has f*cked off without stopping. The Exploder is now a right mess,
the whole nearside is dented and scratched, the front hit a lamp post and
they tell me that the drivers doesn't hang right anymore..maybe a right off?

Anyway, I am okay, just got a sore thumb as the Exploder suspension
exploded(!) as she left the road (be fair, she left the road sideways and
hit the kirb with all the wheels...was a cool thing to see being winched
out...)

I have two worries now, firstly, my foot hurst when I drive the LR - I am
not used to the clutch but it seems awful tight...prior to now it hasn't
been a problem, but town driving........argh! Is there an adjustment?

Secondly, there is a banging coming from the passenger front side..sounds
like a dodgy shock, but how do I check on a SIII, the bounce check is a no
no!

Neil

SIII 109" - now my daily driver

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From: John Cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 17:05:49 -0400
Subject: Re: Sore Left Foot....

Neil Brownlee wrote:
> Sigh,
> I am having to drive my purely offroad LR on road due to the fact that
> someone ran me off the road in the Exploder. I am V. annoyed by this because
> it is the second accident in 2 months in my house where the w*nker who
> caused it has f*cked off without stopping. The Exploder is now a right mess,
> the whole nearside is dented and scratched, the front hit a lamp post and
> they tell me that the drivers doesn't hang right anymore..maybe a right off?
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 26 lines)]
> Neil
> SIII 109" - now my daily driver

You'll have to get underneath and look. If the shock bushing s are bad
it 
will be fairly obvious. However it is also likely to be a bad spring
bushing either in the spring or the frame or both.
You could try to claim this on the insurance since the noise wasn't
there until the Exploder got in the accident 
John and Muddy

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From: "Neil Brownlee" <metal_thrasher@offroading.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 21:08:56 -0000
Subject: Re: Sore Left Foot....

Thanks John!

I think I'd better lay of increasing the claim...I can't even have a loan
car due to the fact that it is down to garages decision and not the
insurance company as I cannot claim against ... "two bright lights...."

Neil

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From: John Cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 17:18:36 -0400
Subject: Re: Sore Left Foot....

Neil Brownlee wrote:
> Thanks John!
> I think I'd better lay of increasing the claim...I can't even have a loan
> car due to the fact that it is down to garages decision and not the
> insurance company as I cannot claim against ... "two bright lights...."
> Neil

True and the chances are that if they buggered off they didn't have
insurance anyway.
John

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From: "James G.Wolf" <elvenwood@whro.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 17:02:29 -0500
Subject: Re: series washing machine  

Hey! Read John Steinbecks novel " My Travels With Charlie"!!!! He would
suspend his washing from the truck cap in a sealed bucket (bouquet) and
just drive along with it hopping and sloshing around all day.

Jim Wolf

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From: "James G.Wolf" <elvenwood@whro.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 17:14:35 -0500
Subject: ROAV web page

Attention! Attention! the ROAV web page has finally moved and has been/is
being/will be, updated and made better, much better. As Johathan Winters
says in one skit " WE LEARN BY DOING". 
   URL URL URL <http://members.tripod.com/ROAV/> URL URL URL
[spamkill: members.tripod\. input: %s]	    URL URL URL 
<http://members.tripod.com/ROAV/> URL URL URL

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From: "Peeler, Gilbert W" <Gilbert.W.Peeler@WGP.TWC.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 16:10:45 -0600
Subject: Re: Rover CB Channel

TW wrote:

SO why did you pick 35 as a proposed North American "standard" channel?

TeriAnn-

I picked ch 35 for our rally channel because all the lower channels seemed
to be more cluttered in this area. As far as a US "standard" channel, it
seems that 7 is used more than any other; I think I'll change our rally
channel to 7.  Do you think most Rover owners know ( or care? ) about
channel 7?

Cheers,
Wayne

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 18:27:20 -0000
Subject: Re: Front Fenders

>>>>>>Mersey World/LR Super Market.  I
have decided to order from them based on some comments from others on the
list, <<<<<<<

Pete,
I'll add my two-onehundreds-of-a-Euro (they haven't told us yet!)  and
concur with the others on the list.
Odd thing though, years ago, Merseyside Land Rover Services was a small
unit, always had whatever you needed (only hour and bit from me) but always
expensive and the counter staff were famous for their cussedness.
 Then a new owner moved in, turned it into the Supermarket, dropped prices
and kicked some staff ass........
amazing turnaround.
I still rarely shop there because my man is only ten minutes away and serves
better coffee (Steve Parker Land Rovers), but they do have a very good
reputation and if I'm over that way.......

hey, if you do get a flight, go to Manchester International, I'll pick you
up, take you to Liverpool, bring you back, give you a nice night out and
drop you back at the airport the next day..... windows in schedules
permitting....and all in a 1983 110.... Nirvarna, right?
Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:16:31 -0000
Subject: Re: Radiator Story... 

>>>>>>1. everything is chepaer over there, no?
2. Bill was referring to having a completely new radiator core installed.
HWat
they did on yours was just rod out the tubes, and put the tanks back
on.<<<<<<

recored Range Rover Radiator over here, complete with off-road modification
(that'll ensure some replies :')>  )  just under a oner (oner = one
hundred,) ie, 95UKP.

Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 18:29:48 -0000
Subject: Re: Chicken Khorma

>>>>>a chicken khorma, pilaw rice, ten papdams,
bombay aloo, bhindi bhaji, onion rahta, meat madras, and a beer.... <<<

and al available on Gainsborough Road, Crewe, at the Bombar Paradise
(remember it?) torture, what torture (tee hee)
Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:12:46 -0000
Subject: Re: series washing machine

>>>>>(note the rather
clever toffee-nosed John Cleese accent)<<<<<

oops, I read it in the voice of the "fey" gentleman out of Veronica's
Closet.....

works tho......

Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:01:40 -0000
Subject: Re: Importing old Land Rovers from England

>>>>But how do you know the vehicle is any good?  Any recommendations for a
really reliable dealer?<<<<<

you either ask the list (like you have done) or you get someone like me,
already over here, to have a look at it for you
my regular bloke, Steve Parker Land Rovers, has one or two a year in,
shipping to all sorts of foreign countries. His are not cheap, but are damn'
near perfect when he ships them.
Lotsof others in LROI

Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 21:43:52 -0000
Subject: Re: New Editor for Land Rover Owners Club mag

>>>>>Don't ask me how but I got elected as the editor for the Land Rover
Owners
Club of Australia (Sydney Branch) newsletter ...whew!

So look out, I might steal stuff from the list for publication!<<<<

despite being the only person on the list who does get paid (a pittance, a
mere pittance) for writing about Land Rovers, and, because lots of people
put copyright reminders on the bottom of their listings (shame on y'all)
take this as an official invitation to use anything off mine you like......

Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:30:02 -0000
Subject: Re: Kona Coffee

.>>>>>>>  Still only $15 a pound plus shipping.<<<<
any idea what it would cost to ship to the UK, my house?

Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+            
     I !__|  [_]|_\___   
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV 
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: Michael Carradine <cs@landrover.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 15:06:31 -0800
Subject: Re: New Editor for Land Rover Owners Club mag

At 09:43 PM 3/17/99, "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
:>despite being the only person on the list who does get paid (a pittance, a
:>mere pittance) for writing about Land Rovers, and, because lots of people
:>put copyright reminders on the bottom of their listings (shame on y'all)
:>take this as an official invitation to use anything off mine you like....

 The only person on the list who gets paid to write about Land Rovers?
 I think not!  Unlike a pundits column, the name Jim Allen comes to
 mind as writing some serious technical articles, one of which just
 appeared in Land Rover Monthly (LRM).  John Hong in the same magazine
 wrote an engaging interview, among other items.  Mike Green writes
 articles regularly for Land Rover World (LRW) as the US correspondent,
 including interesting vehicle reviews and off-road events.  These guys
 are good and they don't write for free!

-Michael Carradine

 President LROA                 
                                Land Rover Owners' Association (LROA)
 LROA Member Services           North America's oldest and largest
 PO Box 430                     Land Rover association with over 1000
 Walnut Creek, CA 94597         members.  Annual dues still only $20.

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From: John Cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:15:43 -0400
Subject: Re: New Editor for Land Rover Owners Club mag

Michael Carradine wrote:
> At 09:43 PM 3/17/99, "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> :>despite being the only person on the list who does get paid (a pittance, a
> :>mere pittance) for writing about Land Rovers, and, because lots of people
> :>put copyright reminders on the bottom of their listings (shame on y'all)
> :>take this as an official invitation to use anything off mine you like....
>  The only person on the list who gets paid to write about Land Rovers?
>  I think not!  Unlike a pundits column, the name Jim Allen comes to
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>  are good and they don't write for free!
> -Michael Carradine

That may be true but they arn't as good at pissing people off as Frank:)
John and Muddy.
Oh, and Frank nothing I put on the list is copyrighted not that it would
be worth reprinting unless you are really short of something for the
column.

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From: "M. Tompkins" <mmglass@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 18:18:27 -0500
Subject: Re: Tire Recommendations - BFG AT vs TracEDge

"Wolfe, Charles" wrote:

> Looking at BF Goodrich AT vs TracEdge 235/85/16
> Opinions suggestions greatly appreciated.

I had TracEdges on my 109, loved them, but couldn't find
a set in Maryland for a decent price when I needed a new
set. I ended up with Dunlop Radial Rover. I decided on
215/85/16 M&S, steers a lot easier, good off road and in
the snow. Price was $90-100 a piece.

Cheers,
Mike
'66 109" Hybrid Coiler SW, "No Chance"
http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Trails/6623/
http://pw1.netcom.com/~mmglass/index.html
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/8365/index.html

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From: John Karlsson <karlsson@edgenet.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 18:24:40 -0500
Subject: Re: Capstan winch parts

I am in the process of rebuilding my capstan winch, so it is presently
disassembled.  I don't know if it is Aero or Fairey (I did once, but I
forgot).  It is listed in the Optional Equipment Parts Catalog(ue) as Part
#501453, FRONT WINCH COMPLETE ASSEMBLY.  I think the only part missing is
#219558 Knob for control rod.  If anyone is interested, I can e-mail the
pertinent pages from the catalog(ue).  Also, since it is in pieces, this
would be a good time to provide any measurements, etc.

John Karlsson
Hope Valley, RI

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 00:45:16 +0100
Subject: SIII Diesel front leaf springs

My 109" drive chain, suspension and wheels are now all mounted on the
new galv. chassis. The leaf springs (see how I write LEAF springs since
I bought a 110 - I would never have thought of that a week ago) are only
18 months old so I am reusing them (probably the only old part anyway)
but they are still so sprung that the shackle points forward. The front
shocks do not fit - they are too short (by about 2 cm at full extension
and about 2" at "normally open" position (open but still a bit to give
for the big hops).

Question is - how do I get the springs to flat out so that the shackles
lean back and the chassis comes a little closer, so that I can fit the
shocks. (Yes the shocks are the right ones, the brake hoses are too
short too!)

The new firewall is fitted, the engine is in, and a new fuel tank.
Tomorrow I strip and paint the last "black bits" - brackets, brake and
clutch towers, handbrake, and lots of other stuff. The I am finished
cleaning crud and have only the bodywork to paint before final assembly.
I guess that in a week I'll have it running and can begin to clean up my
workshop.

Pity is, 2 fully rebuilt Series III's and a new 110, and I then
disappear to Alaska again for three months, missing the glorius Danish
spring (May 4th) - well they'll be here when i get home in the summer.

Any pointers on the springs?

Adrian Redmond

          http://www.channel6.dk/native

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 00:52:29 +0100
Subject: Defender seats

I must admit that I find the fancy seats on my new Defender much more
uncomfortable than the Series III seats (new, still intact SIII seats
that is). I drove to Viborg today - 70 kilometres each way, and half way
home I was getting a back attack of "Boeing Bum" - you know that
posterier feeling you get when crossing the Atlantic 10 hours coach
class. And even with the seat fully back, my right leg aches after half
an hour holding the speedo half way down. (Yep - if it was the series at
least you can bottom it, but Denmark's 80Km speed limit means that a Tdi
pedal must be held midposition. (Could always use a lower gear :-) )

I know, many of you must be mumbling "Geez, the lucky b*%%er gets a new
110 CSW and ALL he does is whinge?

Sorry - It's still a lovel truck!

Adrian Redmond

          http://www.channel6.dk/native

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 16:05:38 -0800
Subject: RE: SIII Diesel front leaf springs

Regarding Adrian's short (sharp?) shocks...

Had the same problem with a friends BMW 3.0 CS rear suspension, Just had a
few fat friends sit in the boot to drop the rear end down enough to slip on
the shocks.  Worked like a charm.  I imagine that with a diesel LR, it'll
have to be more like a dozen fat friends (with Guinness in hand on the St.
Patty's day)...

Paul in Victoria.

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 01:12:46 +0100
Subject: Re: SIII Diesel front leaf springs

Paul Quin wrote:
Regarding Adrian's short (sharp?) shocks...
Had the same problem with a friends BMW 3.0 CS rear suspension, Just had
a
few fat friends sit in the boot to drop the rear end down enough to slip
on
the shocks.  Worked like a charm.  I imagine that with a diesel LR,
it'll
have to be more like a dozen fat friends (with Guinness in hand on the
St.
Patty's day)...

If you had told me that 1 hour and 11 minutes ago, it might have worked,
but alas it is now tomorrow here, and yesterday WAS St.Patrick's Day -
does that mean i have to wait another year?

:-)

 
Adrian Redmond

          http://www.channel6.dk/native

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From: Jarvis64@aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:11:48 EST
Subject: Re: Tire Recommendations - BFG AT vs TracEDge

Go w/ BFG Mud Terrains.  I've had mine on for 40,000 miles (last two years!)
and they're still just fine.  Will need new ones in 6 mos. or a year, I guess.
As for highway driving, they're super--noise isn't much of a factor in a
series rig.

Bill Rice
SIIA 109 SW

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:15:43 EST
Subject: Back to eratic acceleration

Hi all,

Well, started out this week thinking either carb icing or water in the tank.
1 can of drying agent (isopropyl alcohol in this case) and 8 gallons of gas
later, I thought I had it licked.

This evening, after running at speed on the freeway and a brief stop at the
store, I was back to the irregular acceleration.

Is this typical for water in the petrol or should I start looking for another
culprit? 

Nate

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From: "John" <john@dmt-2000.demon.nl>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 01:25:21 +0100
Subject: New leaf springs stage one

In my "quest" for (off)road improvement I eventually decided to buy 4 new
original LR leaf-springs and new shocks (LR OEM).
According to the LR-specialist(s) this option should really improve
road-holding.
But (there's always a but...) since I've seen so many after-market
leaf-springs (Left & Right  being totally equal in size, shape and height
ect) I noticed that the original LR springs were different! There's a
difference in height between driver-side and passenger-side (about 1.5")
OK, this is my first Landy, so you can expact some really stupid questions
(please forgive me)
but (hey!...again) is this difference in height normal?? Do I have to make
some adjustments? ( growing some weight maybe :-))
Or is it the height getting back to normal after a while?

John

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 01:25:57 +0100
Subject: Re: New leaf springs stage one

Original springs are labelled L for left and R for right - this is based
on R being the drivers side in the UK.

The R spring is tensioned heavier than the L spring. therefore, on the
continent and in the USA, the R spring should be puit on the drivers
side - the Left.

The theory is that the drivers side carries more weight - driver and
engine off centre.

The rpactice is, that whichever way you mount the springs, the truck
always leans to one side or the other.

Therefore mount the R spring on the side which you want highest. :-)

Sorry. But true.

Good luck

Adrian Redmond

          http://www.channel6.dk/native

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From: Alan_Richer@motorcity2.lotus.com
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:31:03 -0500
Subject: Re: Capstan winch parts

Re: Disassembled winch:

John, don't tempt me to drive down for a visit with my calipers and a
vernier.....8*)

               aj"Just 90 miles away..."r

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From: John Karlsson <karlsson@edgenet.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:41:12 -0500
Subject: Re: Capstan winch parts

Do you want me to send you directions?

At 07:31 PM 3/17/99 -0500, you wrote:

>Re: Disassembled winch:

>John, don't tempt me to drive down for a visit with my calipers and a
>vernier.....8*)

>               aj"Just 90 miles away..."r

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From: Lodelane@aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:45:17 EST
Subject: Re: Chicken Khorma

Sorry Frank,

But there isn't a Gainsborough Road in Crewe - at least the Crewe here in
jolly old Virginia  8^)

Larry Smith
Chester, VA

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From: Bill Caloccia <caloccia@senie.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:56:18 -0500
Subject: why channel ???

Why TeriAnn, he must have picked 35, because that is the difference of
42 and 7, thus between ch 7 and ch 35, we have the answer to life and
all and everything !

:-)
	DON'T PANIC

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From: Bill Caloccia <caloccia@senie.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 20:15:30 -0500
Subject: message copyrights

Hi Ron,

In general, all material is 'born' copyrighted, in the case of the LRO and
other LR lists, (e.g. All material submitted to the lists) the material then
carries the following copyright in the archives and digests:

	Digest Messages Copyright 1990-1999 by the original poster or/and 
	Empire Rover Owners Society, All rights reserved. 

With regard to your use of material for the AuLROC club magazine, you are
welcome to use it with attribution to the sources (e.g. the list itself,
and as appropriate the individual posters). When taking long sections or
stories from a single individual's post, it is considered good practice
(and courtesy) to ask them for permission to publish. Sometimes they'll
simply say yes, and sometimes they might clean it up and you'll get a
slightly better story out of it.

    Cheers,
          Bill Caloccia			wpc@Caloccia.Net
	 http://www.Caloccia.Net/wpc/
				  R
       http://www.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
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      2  4  4wd  L N           |  2	    because
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      793-PTA            '90 RR County

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From: Art Bitterman <artbitt@netscape.net>
Date: 17 Mar 99 18:33:41 MST
Subject: Le Aardvark est Morte!!

Hey all--

Ever had one of those days where every thing turns to doo-doo?

I'm on spring break, and thought I'd drive up to Colorado Springs and visit my
sister; so, gassed up, oil and water checked, headed north at noon today.

20 miles into the trip, the cab suddenly filled with grey smoke. "Oh, shit"
sez I, and turned off the engine and coasted to
the shoulder. Hopped out, popped the bonnet open and saw that oil and smoke
was coming from the oil filler and vent on valve cover in greater than normal
amounts. Has been seeping from there for a while now, which I put down to worn
rings, but this was bad!!

Anyway, back into cab , tried to start it up again. Didn't seem to want to
fire; Finally did, to the sound of loud rattling. Not your normal Series
rattles, but a Death Rattle from somewhere in the rear of the engine. Killed
the engine and walked back to the last exit to phone for a tow home.

Going to drop the oil sump and pull the head tomorrow to have a look see. I'm
afraid that a rod has gone.

Anybody in the Colorado/New Mexico area have a used. good 2286 engine? For
cheap? May need it! Or I may look into another engine if I can get the parts
cheap. Or I might get full coverage insurance on it and drop a match in it---

Art Bitterman
1960 SII Land Rover "Aardvark"
1983 Volvo 245 Turbo "Aardvark II"
"If it ain't leaking, it must be empty"

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From: John Cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 22:14:51 -0400
Subject: Re: Back to eratic acceleration

NADdMD@aol.com wrote:
> Hi all,
> Well, started out this week thinking either carb icing or water in the tank.
> 1 can of drying agent (isopropyl alcohol in this case) and 8 gallons of gas
> later, I thought I had it licked.
> This evening, after running at speed on the freeway and a brief stop at the
> store, I was back to the irregular acceleration.

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> culprit?
> Nate
Sounds like your carb could do with a good cleaning
John and Muddy

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 21:17:48 EST
Subject: Re: Back to eratic acceleration

In a message dated 3/17/99 9:13:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca writes:

<< Sounds like your carb could do with a good cleaning >>

Well, if it's not water in the fuel, the culprits (in my feeble mind) are:

1. Junk in the float bowl
2. Worn jet
3.  Grunge on the pick up screen in the fuel tank
4.  Combo of the above

However, before I take off the top of the carb and go mucking about, I wanted
to be sure that it isn't just water that has to run its course.

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From: John Cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 23:03:32 -0400
Subject: Re: Back to eratic acceleration

NADdMD@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 3/17/99 9:13:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca writes:
> << Sounds like your carb could do with a good cleaning >>
> Well, if it's not water in the fuel, the culprits (in my feeble mind) are:
> 1. Junk in the float bowl
> 2. Worn jet

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> However, before I take off the top of the carb and go mucking about, I wanted
> to be sure that it isn't just water that has to run its course.

Worn jet is unlikely. If water in the fuel is the problem then there
will
some in the bottom of the float bowl as well as a bunch of other junk.
It is a pretty easy job . If it is the 1 barrel Weber don't forget the
idle jet is accessed from the out side (a really neat feature)
John.

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From: "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 17:14:53 -1000
Subject: Re: New Editor for Land Rover Owners Club mag

>take this as an official invitation to use anything off mine you like......

Frank, you sure about this?  If thats the case I want to use PKV, say for
about 20 nyears.  haha
Pete

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From: "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 17:30:17 -1000
Subject: Re: Front Fenders

>hey, if you do get a flight, go to Manchester International, I'll pick you
>up, take you to Liverpool, bring you back, give you a nice night out and
>drop you back at the airport the next day..... windows in schedules
>permitting....and all in a 1983 110.... Nirvarna, right?
You got it :-)
Pete

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From: "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 17:38:04 -1000
Subject: Re: Chicken Khorma

>But there isn't a Gainsborough Road in Crewe - at least the Crewe here in
>jolly old Virginia  8^)
Hmmm, if I remember correctly, there's only one 'road' through crewe period.
Isn't that place about 20-30 minutes from Pickett?  Road house by the name
of Tod's?
Pete

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From: "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 17:41:19 -1000
Subject: Re: Capstan Winch Parts

I noticed in..... I think febs LROI an add for new(?) capstans
Pete

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 22:48:39 EST
Subject: Eratic acceleration: the next episode:

In a message dated 3/17/99 10:01:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,
john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca writes:

<< Worn jet is unlikely. If water in the fuel is the problem then there
 will
 some in the bottom of the float bowl as well as a bunch of other junk.
 It is a pretty easy job . If it is the 1 barrel Weber don't forget the
 idle jet is accessed from the out side (a really