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From: Steve Reddock <Steve@Reddock.net>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 21:13:45 +0900
Subject: Re: ping

Some people on this list are a few acks short of a Popeye!

Steve

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From: "d.h.lowe" <dhlowe@idirect.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:03:02 -0500
Subject: Re: Rover P6 3500

I would not be too concerned about leaded versus unleaded as I would be about
playing with the timing to accept low octane fuel without pinking. There are
enough V8`s around in the UK and EU that you could pick up ,say, one from a
rusted out SD1 and swap it or even just the cylinder heads alone. The
cylinder heads on the later engines are superior to those on the P6 (larger
valves) and if you use the Felpro head gaskets it will lower the compression
ratio to approximately 9.25  :1
The trunk tire mount was an option. I have one sitting in the Tall Grass
Storage Dept.that you can have free, gratis, and for nothing. Just come and
take it.   :-)
Dave
Mattias Boström wrote:

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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mattias_Bostr=F6m?= <vwu213j@tninet.se>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 15:13:13 +0100
Subject: SV: Rover P6 3500

Have I understood you correctly.
I can run it on unleaded! The engine head will break anyway because of the low 
octane fuel. If I replaces the head with one from an SD1 I can run on unleaded 
fuel and the engine wont pink.
The P6 I am thinking on buying have trunk tire mount, thats the reason I asked.
Best Regards
Mattias Boström
Sereies III swb diesel
Defender 110 csw Tdi
mattiascamilla@ebox.tninet.se
http://user.tninet.se/~vwu213j
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From: "d.h.lowe" <dhlowe@idirect.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:48:32 -0500
Subject: Re: bad weather, was hot paint

Ggggrrrrhhh, sob, sob, whinge, whinge. Yesterday I changed a leaking injector
in -5.C temps. . The used one I installed turned out to be a dud. I am about
to don my fur lined knickers and venture once again into the great white
outside. Still , let us be thankful for small mercies. There aint no
mosquitos.  BTW Frank, I was just reading a column from the Times by Matthew
Parris about the MP John Spellar and his recent gaffe in the House. I guess it
is a few days old by now. Damn near had a heart attack laughing. For those on
the list, Matthew Parris is a columnist for the Times and is the guy who
penned that story about going to Spain in his old Lanny with a load of carpet,
etc, etc. He has a way with words. You would have to read it to appreciate the
humour but in essence this MP stood up in the House to state the "cuts in
Defence Medical Services have gone too far" unfortunately, there was a slip of
the tongue and that is not what was said. The House was reduced to apoplexy,
even Virginia Bottomley cracking a smile. I quote........"What Spellar meant
to say was "cuts". How the errant "n" crept in, none can say". The column is a
keeper.
Dave

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From: john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca (John Cranfield)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 10:38:49 -0400
Subject: Re: bad weather, was hot paint

I wonder if the original word will appear in Hansard
John and Muddy

"d.h.lowe" wrote:

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From: "d.h.lowe" <dhlowe@idirect.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 22:08:07 -0500
Subject: Re: SV: Rover P6 3500

You can run it on unleaded but with 10.5 to 1 compression ratio, without 100 
octane fuel being available, you will have to retard the timing until you get 
it 
to run without pinking. The head
will not break. If you ever do a rebuild or carry out a head service then look 
around to see if you can find a later engine. They had certain improvements 
like 
the rear seal and the heads
,which apart from having larger valves and better breathing also had a larger 
combustion chamber. The superior Felpro (or McCord ) composition head gaskets 
are 
thicker than the factory thin
metal type and the combination of these two will bring the compression ratio 
down to a more manageable ~9.25 to 1.  Oh, a tip regarding the P6. The battery 
is 
in the trunk. Run a heavy ground
wire from this direct to the engine block.
Dave
Mattias Boström wrote:

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From: "d.h.lowe" <dhlowe@idirect.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 22:11:31 -0500
Subject: Re: bad weather, was hot paint

I wonder too, John. I should get Brett to scan the column. I am still
laughing
Dave

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 23:01:44 -0000
Subject: Re: Madness

hey don't talk to me about persistent slow punctures.....:-(>
Every now and then I have the tyres taken off the wheels and cleaned out of
all the dried mud, 'cos sure as eggs is eggs after a bit of off-roading the
slow deflation thing starts as the seal is broken... So I had the front
wheels done a few weeks ago, rears were ok. Then I just did a bit of mild,
really mild honest, off-roading, went out the other day 6am, pouring rain
and had a rear flat....
and, don't anyone say I should use tubes. I know, but some tubeless like my
Grabber MTs are so rough inside that they wear tubes out....
Best Cheers
Frank
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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 23:12:45 -0000
Subject: Re: Brush painting

one of m,y neighbours is a professional coach-painter who works on machinery
and stuff. He uses best camel hair brushes and can often be seen brushing
one back and forth over his hands - even walking to the pub. Says a brush is
no use for the first 100 hours of work.
 He also says that walking past my brushpainted Landy makes him want to
cry...
Best Cheers
Frank
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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 23:18:38 -0000
Subject: Re: manufacturers using engines designed by others

ISTR the V4 first appeared in the UK in the Corsair, and then the Transit
van.. I don't know where it originated from either, just trying to help with
some more facts...
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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 23:20:45 -0000
Subject: Re: Nissan 2.8D info 

It went into a fair few Range Rovers in the UK at one time. Was said to be a
decent engine except when towing caravans, overheated then.. if you want
lots of details I can dig out the email address of a guy who had one (still
Range Rover tho, not Series) but who changed again to a Tdi...
Best Cheers
Frank
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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 23:25:32 -0000
Subject: Re: 550 Cord

I've seen multiple strands of it pull a vehicle out of a hole. A really neat
job of weaving or whatever you call it had been done. However, those of us
without access to large rolls have to buy it from camping supplies places in
smaller lengths... still wouldn't be without it...
Best Cheers
Frank
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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 23:30:47 -0000
Subject: Re: Diesel starting

the problem with using ether is that pretty soon the vehicle becomes
'hooked' and won't start without it, especially if it's a damn' tractor....
Best Cheers
Frank
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From: "The Stockdales" <mstockdale@mho.net>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 10:42:11 -0800
Subject: Catching up on a few things.

To Bill Rice:  Rustoleum spray paint is easy.  Forget the brush.

On 550 cord:  You can always tell if Russ Wilson has been to you home, when
you find pieces of 550 cord lying about the driveway a year later.

Nissan Patrols:  I have seen at least 4 near Montrose Colorado. Two were an
interesting rose color (could just have been faded red)  Someone once told
me that there was someone out there importing and selling these sort of like
an unlicensed dealer.  I also know of a fellow who works where I do, that
has a few (6 I think) in various stages of restoration.  I'll have to get
ahold of him and see if he can meet with the First Mountain Division for a
Off-road trip this summer.

Snow:  I currently have 1 foot on the ground.

Hurricane Mitch and the Red Dinosaur.

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From: john hess <jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:55:59 -0800
Subject: dogs, no LR content

previously written:
>My wife got this from the Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Reteriver list. LR content,
it's too cold to work on mine 8^).

Hey, we've got a Duck Toller, too.  Pretty neat dogs, aren't they?

________________________
C. Marin Faure

OK, if people are going to make surprise announcements like they have 
Nova Scotia Duck Tolling dogs, I want to know if anyone on the list 
has either an American Water Spaniel or Boykin Spaniel.

John Hess (1991 Chesapeake Bay Retriever)

John F. Hess, Davis California   jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us
Land Rover Dormobile web pages:
http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html
1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis"  1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby"
1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie"

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From: Niall Duncan Forbes <nforbes@is2.dal.ca>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 14:10:21 -0400 (AST)
Subject: Re: dogs, no LR content

I've got a Newfoundland. Nice and big. He doesn't like the Land Rover
because the back is so high. Once he's in he doesn't mind it though, until
he has to get out. Then it's too high again. I need to make some kind of
folding ramp for him. Has anyone done this before? It needs to be pretty
strong as he weighs about 140lbs and is still growing. He probably won't
stop until about 165lbs like his father.

Niall Forbes
66 IIa 88SW
Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/INTRO.HTM

-To the optimist, the glass is half full.
-To the pessimist, the glass is half-empty.
-To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, john hess wrote:

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From: "Ray Burton" <johnburton@mindspring.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 13:45:46 -0500
Subject: Re: dogs, no LR content

    ^ I've got a Newfoundland. Nice and big. 

Do we need to add pet type and breed to Matthew's survey?   8^)

Cheers,
Ray
2 Chocolate Labs and 
a American Staffordshire Terrier/Boxer mix (can bite through 1x4 planks)

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From: Zaxcoinc@aol.com
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 13:55:19 EST
Subject: Re: Diesel starting

In a message dated 1/30/00 9:10:53 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk writes:

>  the problem with using ether is that pretty soon the vehicle becomes
>  'hooked' and won't start without it, especially if it's a damn' tractor....

Not really on topic, but I used ether for an atypical use once. 

The ranch on which I worked, had a couple of mascot dogs. One was an 
Airedale, and another a border collie mix. Long story short, they tangled 
with a Porcupine, and we took them to the Veterinary, and had the large 
quantity of quills removed. After an experience like this, most dogs will get 
it into their heads, to "get even" by biting the he** out of Mr. Porcupine 
the next chance they get. This very thing happened about two weeks later, and 
the poor dogs had even more quills in them the second time. They looked a 
sight, and the ranch management was of a mind to have them put down rather 
than go to the expense of having the quills removed over and over. 

I conferred over the phone with a friend in veterinary school, and arrived at 
the idea of removing the quills myself after anesthetizing the dogs. We used 
ether by spraying it into a rag, and holding the rag over the dogs muzzle. 
The process worked, though I probably got as relaxed as the dogs after a 
while. The dogs were relaxed as we pulled the quills with vise grips, and 
pliers. We reapplied ether as the dogs began to rouse, and worked until the 
quills were gone, and then bandaged what we could. The dogs recovered well, 
and skipped infection and healed well. After this one event, they disdained 
Mr. Porcupine, and probably felt that by biting the he** out of him they had 
regained their dignity.

Although I can't prove a connection, the Airedale would come running whenever 
a spray can would be in use, and stand there and sniff heavily.

My apologies to the bandwidth and anti-ether sniffing mavens.
Zack

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From: John <jhong@flex.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:09:03 -0800
Subject: re: Rover P6 3500

Hi Mattias,

For Rover car stuff, take a look at

www.egroups.com/list/rovernet/

I think there is a fairly active and nicely organized Rover car club in
Sweden too.

www.tripnet.se/rcos/indexe.html

Regards

John

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 23:39:09 -0000
Subject: Re: I'm back and I KNOW this is OFF topic but...

they haven't quite caught up with us at work via email yet but we - a
newspaper - get some lovely faxes in a similar vein.
Despite my, always humorous, fax-backs pointing out the distance between
Essex and Bolton, Lancashire, we still get regular snippets of news 'For
Publication' regarding the Essex branch of the PDSA.... just one example..
even the fax-spam can bring a smile. How about the 'telephone direct'
companies that want us to include them in our Travel pages? Like we, a
newspaper existing by taking adverts from people like, oh say local travel
agents, are going to publicise, for free a telephone direct company...
whenever anyone leaves to go work for a PR or press office we always remind
them to take their brain out first...
Best Cheers
Frank
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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 00:09:04 -0000
Subject: Re: Things are quiet

I had the 5000s on my Range Rover, wouldn't want them again for the same
reason...
Best Cheers
Frank
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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 23:44:47 -0000
Subject: Re: Early Range Rovers, Zeros and copies

did you in the US have those kit cars that looked like  some
Ferrari/Lamborghini, gull wing doors the lot, but used the VW beetle floor
pan?
 Always made us laugh, looked like $100,000 but sounded like......
Best Cheers
Frank
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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 23:43:04 -0000
Subject: Hannah Gordon (no LR content)

There should have been some LR content in 'Midsomer Murders' on the TV
tonight, (UK) there usually are some LRs in it, but narry a one tonight.
Anyway, ISTR someone on this list who mentioned fancying Hannah Gordon. No
LRs but she was in it after a year or so away from our screens. Still as
purty as ever although, without giving the story away I wouldn't drink a
glass of wine she'd poured....
Best Cheers
Frank
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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 00:07:33 -0000
Subject: Re: The toyota adventure. 

nice story, Toyota or not, these motoring stories I like. So how about one
of mine.
Many years ago I had need of an estate (station wagon) for an EXACT amount
of pounds, and it had to be an auto. Not easy in the UK.
 So after trawling around used car places for a full day I finally found
one, a Ford Cortina estate with (coincidentally after recent postings) the
2.0l 'Pinto' engine. I test drove it.
Despite the best efforts of the salesman the oilly smoke out the back didn't
escape my glances in the rear view mirror, but I needed that car,  and the
fact that he treated me like a moron, and lied to me about a number of
points started me thinking...
So I bought it outright. That same night I loaded her up with a blanket,
sandwiches, flask of hot coffee and at 2am headed out onto the M62 motorway
armed with my RAC (auto rescue) card and cellphone.
The M62 is the highest motorway in Britain and has some of the steepest
gradients. Flat out that motor ran for forty miles before it went bang in a
big way...
Got transported home and the next day phoned the salesman with a copy of the
Sale of Goods Act next to the phone...
When, a week later, he handed me over the cheque for the reconditioned
engine I'd put in, he told me he'd lost money on the deal. My heart bled...
Best Cheers
Frank
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From: "Peter Hope" <phope@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 10:06:56 -1000
Subject: Re: snorkel top

Hmmm, I smell a bean bidding war.  But since my supply is dependant upon
you, I have a feeling I already lost hahahaha.  hmm, maybe I can trade Aloha
shirts.
Just got doen brewwing up a pot.  Thanks again.
Pete

> Not fair, I'm the only one who can trade coffee for parts.  Did you read
> the license on the package, Peter?????

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:26:07 -0000
Subject: Re: We're not the only fanatics

who's doing all the buying Bruce, not a certain G*nn*tt company by any
chance? They just bought us (my nespaper group) here in the UK...
Best Cheers
Frank
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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:32:04 -0000
Subject: Re: cold enough

I used to come home from Switzerland where it was minus 25, to England in
January and feel uncomfortably warm with a light coat on...

LR content, driving up through a forest with my Swiss brother-in-law ,
passed by the local bobby in his horse-drawn sleigh, when he  (bro-in-law)
laughingly pointed out that off roading is illegal in Switzerland ' 'but
when you cannot find a road?'

Best Cheers
Frank
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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:36:22 -0000
Subject: Re: Brass monkeys in USA but no Polar bears in Antarctic! (was "Cold 

on the call of nature subject, in the Ukrainian Carpathians, our (female)
interpreter started to explain about 'going, you know, when the sit down is
required. Is best to remove completely the trousers and underthings', when
asked why she replied that running away from bears is easier than when the
'things' are around your ankles...
Best Cheers
Frank
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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:19:37 -0000
Subject: Re: Brass monkeys in USA but no Polar bears in Antarctic! (was "Cold

but how do the Penguins know about the Polar Bears so they can be glad about
not living near them... oh, they watch your films I guess...
Best Cheers
Frank
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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:21:42 -0000
Subject: Re: Simon Schofield(?)

thanks Brett...
Best Cheers
Frank
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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:25:18 -0000
Subject: Re: adaptor plates

no war Bill but Steve was the first to put the Ford V6 in, he says, and was
certainly the one who marketed the kit and is still, his sister tells me,
the only person selling it - see my other post on the subject...
D, d, do you remember Ian Bartram marketing the kit for the 2.2TC in the
Ser? That was the engine and kit in my lightweight when I came round to your
house that time....
Best Cheers
Frank
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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 21:55:01 +0100
Subject: Ugandan electricity

I'm going for the off-topic prize of the week here...

Does anyone know what the mains electricity supply voltage/frequency is
in Uganda, and what is the most "standard" plug type? (We have a crew
going to Uganda (without the Land Rover), and I'm getting their cables
ready)

Do they (due to their colonial past) use the British 13A BS1363 3 pole
fused plug, or do they use the older british 2,5,and 15 amperes jobbie?
Or are they US or Continental compatible?

Someone on this list must know?

:-)

Adrian Redmond

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 21:56:38 +0100
Subject: Re: Brass monkeys in USA but no Polar bears in Antarctic! (was "Cold

Yep - better to be bare-arsed than bear-arsed?

:-)

Adrian Redmond

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 15:58:44 EST
Subject: Ignition question

Hi all,

When it snows (or rains) the rover runs much rougher, failing to hold idle 
unless I pull the choke.  When it's clear (ie no precipitation), it idles 
pretty well, although the vacuum gauge needle vibrates over a few inches 
(2-3).
I'm suspecting ignition wires and/or distributor cap.  Any other thoughts on 
this?

Nate

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From: Niall Duncan Forbes <nforbes@is2.dal.ca>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:46:54 -0400 (AST)
Subject: Re: dogs, no LR content

>Cheers,
>Ray
>2 Chocolate Labs and
>a American Staffordshire Terrier/Boxer mix (can bite through 1x4 planks)
                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Yikes! I'll bet he makes short work of Birmabright.      

Niall Forbes
66 IIa 88SW
Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/INTRO.HTM

-To the optimist, the glass is half full.
-To the pessimist, the glass is half-empty.
-To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:37:10 -0000
Subject: Re: Rover P6 3500

for the trillionth time (no offence) ALL the Rover V8 engines can run on
unleaded fuel...
the spare wheel on boot (trunk) mount was an optional extra, very few of
them around...
Best Cheers
Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:34:03 -0000
Subject: Re: snorkel top

Larry, are you familiar with the phrase - 'how long is a piece of string' ?
:-)>

- another use today, made a loop, went round the shoulders of my two burly
mates who took the strain and lifted and pulled  while I was pushing from
the other end... in the fullness of time we got that mutha of a tub out of
the rain and into the dry barn....
Best Cheers
Frank
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     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Frank Elson" <frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:41:29 -0000
Subject: Re: bad weather, was hot paint

I'll check, we have Hansard in the office....
Best Cheers 
Frank
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     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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From: "Kevin Campbell" <KCampbell@adrem.net>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 14:45:41 -0800
Subject: RE: Rover P6 3500

>for the trillionth time (no offence) ALL the Rover V8 engines can run on
>unleaded fuel...
	 [ truncated by lro-lite (was 8 lines)]
>.

That's as may be, but when I wrote to Rover technical services in 1991
asking about my SD1, they said it could not use unleaded, end of discussion.
I would run 2 tanks of sans plomb followed by one tank of the good old IQ
reducer, and it seemd OK.

Kevin

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From: "David Hope" <davidjhope@email.msn.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:20:55 -0600
Subject: Parts diagram for Series 3 handbrake

I have recently acquired a Series lll handbrake lever for my llA - so
that I don't have to take off my seatbelt to apply the handbrake.

I think the handbrake lever is complete but I'm not sure.  Could
anyone email or fax me a copy of the relevant page out of the Parts
Book.

My fax number is 417-889-2226

David Hope
Springfield, Missouri
64 llA

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From: <jimfoo@uswest.net>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:36:34 -0700
Subject: Re: Ugandan electricity

A search turned up: 220V 50 Hz. Didn't say wich plug though.
As for Rover content, just something I have been wondering about if
anyone knows. How is it that I can roll backwards and shift into
2nd just fine, but I can't roll forward and shift into reverse
without grinding? This is of course with the clutch in, and on a
non-synchro tranny.

Adrian Redmond wrote:
> I'm going for the off-topic prize of the week here...
> Does anyone know what the mains electricity supply voltage/frequency is
> in Uganda, and what is the most "standard" plug type? 

-- 
Jim Hall
Elephant Chaser 1966 88" truck cab
http://www.users.uswest.net/~jimfoo/

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From: "Martin Sanderse" <protoproduction@sympatico.ca>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:32:54 -0500
Subject: Re: Ugandan electricity

(unlurking for a minute again)
Well, if they are like Kenya it's 220V 50 hz, definitely NOT the came
as US or Continental.

We had these 3 big rectangular looking prongs that were the same (or
so I hear) as some old British standard.

I'll stop of at the Radio Shack tomorrow and see if I can get the name
of the right plug from the rack of adapters they've got.

Why not get them there?

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From: "d.h.lowe" <dhlowe@idirect.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 10:07:46 -0500
Subject: Re: Rover P6 3500

My SD1`S have been fed a steady diet of unleaded gas for nigh on 20 years
without a hint of valve recession. All the information I have read indicates
they are capable of running on sans plomb.
Dave

Kevin Campbell wrote:

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From: BSharp4601@aol.com
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:03:04 EST
Subject: Pardon the Land Rover Content

Sorry, no guns firing into the air, Suburbans, C-130 Gunships, Kawasaki 
Heins, polar bears, or penguins... just a Land Rover question...

Any clues as to what was used for the wing top running lights / turn signals 
found on the Series trucks that ran wing front gerry can mounts?  Was this a 
special item fabricated for that particular purpose, or was this some "off 
the shelf" generic part from some other type of British vehicle?

Anyone know where these lights can be sourced?  New, used, whatever?

Someone has suggested using the wing top turn signal lights from a T series 
MG.  That may have to do except that these are chrome, turn signal only, and 
expensive (if acquired from Moss).

Thanks,

Bob Sharp
Tucson, AZ
The slumbering herd on the Rover Ranch:
52 Series I 
53 Series I
60 Series II
63 Series IIa
96 Discovery Series I (not your typical a soccer mom / mall terrain vehicle)

"Why is it that every project you complete on a Land Rover results in 
knowledge and skills you hope you never need to use again?"

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From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 07:46:57 +0200
Subject: Re: Brush painting

Frank Elson wrote:

>  He also says that walking past my brushpainted Landy makes him want to
> cry...
Ahh! Just give him the brush off, Frank...
 
Regards

Paul Oxley
http://Safaris.AfricanAdrenalin.co.za
http://AfricanAdrenalin.co.za

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From: "Bruce D. Fowler" <bf71iia@mint.net>
Date: (No, or invalid, date.)
Subject: Re: We're not the only fanatics

Frank wrote:
who's doing all the buying Bruce, not a certain G*nn*tt company by any
chance? They just bought us (my nespaper group) here in the UK...

Frank,
If * = the letter between L & N in the green oval,then they sold everything
in the state of Maine last year. 
Wasn't a big enough market.
They were very good to work for, but tighter then a v*rg*n when budget
time rolled around.
No one ever made me park the rover out back :-)
Bruce F.

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From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:09:22 +0200
Subject: Re: We're not the only fanatics

"Bruce D. Fowler" wrote:

> If * = the letter between L & N in the green oval,then they sold everything
> They were very good to work for, but tighter then a v*rg*n when budget
What's a 'vargan'?

Regards

Paul Oxley
http://Safaris.AfricanAdrenalin.co.za
http://AfricanAdrenalin.co.za

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From: Duncan Phillips <D.M.Phillips@staffs.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:09:15 +0000
Subject: Camshaft Capers

Hey all..... I took the tappet rollers out of my 5brg engine this weekend 
(I was having trouble setting the valve clearances, and I mean TROUBLE!!). 
The rollers were more like cogs!!!. The alarm bells started to ring, and 
peering down the holes at the camshaft, it was obviously shafted (pardon 
the pun).

Which leads me to my question: I have my old 3brg engine, with a decent 
camshaft. Can I simply swap the shaft from the 3brg engine into my 5brg 
(metric) engine??
On a similar note, what's the average cost of a new (or recon) camshaft - I 
can't find any advertised.

And finally, does anyone have any experience with the powerplus camshafts 
advertised by Automotive Components??

All (polite) comments will, as always, be gratefully received!!

**********************************************
Duncan Phillips
Network Supervisor/Part Time Lecturer
School of Computing (Stoke Site)
Staffordshire University
**********************************************
"The night is my companion and solitude my guide......
would I spend forever here and not be satisfied?" 

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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mattias_Bostr=F6m?= <vwu213j@tninet.se>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 11:10:03 +0100
Subject: 2.25 diesel turbo

I read in an old magazine that there were several companies that turbo charged 
the 2.25l diesel. This was aparently a common conversion in the 80´s. Is there 
anyone with a turbo charged series out there. If not, why not. Why is this not 
common today. I would relly like to have some more power in my series!
Best Regards
Mattias Boström
With the bannister friend! ;-)
Series III diesel swb -73
Defender 110 csw Tdi
Best Regards
Mattias Boström
mattiascamilla@ebox.tninet.se
http://user.tninet.se/~vwu213j

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 11:03:02 +0000
Subject: Re: copies of engineering work of others (minimal LR content)

>Huh. I somehow can't imagine nicking a Lewis gun being considered
>'petty' larceny.

Oh,I dont know.Old guy used to live next door to me was a REME
Staff Sgt in the last disturbance.He acquired an amphibious
jeep from tthe Yanks in France.He converted it from jeep
amphibious non working to jeep amphibious serviceable.He
could never understand why his CO positively and definitely
refused his kind offer to give up his berth on the troopship
home to a more deserving case,so he could drive the bloody
thing home across the Channel..........

Mike Rooth

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 11:09:09 +0000
Subject: Re: Brush painting

> He also says that walking past my brushpainted Landy makes him want to
>cry...
He's just depressed because he cant match your skill Frank.....

Mike Rooth

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 11:12:50 +0000
Subject: Re: Diesel starting

>the problem with using ether is that pretty soon the vehicle becomes
>'hooked' and won't start without it, especially if it's a damn' tractor....
Agreed.And the Land Rover series 11A Owners Handbook specifically
warns against using ether based products,and chunters on about
severe head damage resulting.

Mike Rooth

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From: Paul Oxley <paul@adventures.co.za>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:12:39 +0200
Subject: Re: copies of engineering work of others (minimal LR content)

Mike Rooth wrote:
 
> Oh,I dont know.Old guy used to live next door to me was a REME
 Staff Sgt in the last disturbance.He acquired an amphibious
 jeep from tthe Yanks in France.He converted it from jeep
 amphibious non working to jeep amphibious serviceable.He
 could never understand why his CO positively and definitely
 refused his kind offer to give up his berth on the troopship
 home to a more deserving case,so he could drive the bloody
> thing home across the Channel..........
Did he ever get it home?

Regards

Paul Oxley
http://Safaris.AfricanAdrenalin.co.za
http://AfricanAdrenalin.co.za

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From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 11:48:00 +0000
Subject: Re: copies of engineering work of others (minimal LR content)

> home to a more deserving case,so he could drive the bloody
>> thing home across the Channel..........
>Did he ever get it home?

No.He was still pissed off about it forty years later.

Mike Rooth

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